City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date: 2024-11-12
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #319

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Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-28, pp. 13–29; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2025-01-28 according to the City's minutes; the approving motion: “approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”; the amendment is quoted from that motion and is not applied in these records. The City has not posted the approved minutes. The approving motion, “to approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”, is in the City's minutes (2219_01_28_2025.pdf, p. 2).

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Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Corbin Gilbert (Help Desk Support Tech), Jennifer Webster (Senior Planner)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (18)

1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of November 12, 2024. (24-653) — to approve the November 12, 2024 Regular City Council meeting agenda with amendments to move all Council Business items in front of Public Hearings, move Council Business item VII.6 to VII.1 and to table Council Business Item VII.1 to the next regularly scheduled Council meeting (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 13–29
to approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of August 27, 2024 as written (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 13–29
to approve the minutes for the Budget Hearing of September 3, 2024 as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 13–29
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 4, packet pp. 13–29
1. Approval of Ordinance No. 17 -2024/first reading: Amending Chapter 2, Administration, Article VIII, Firefighters’ Retirement Plan of the — to approve Ordinance 17-2024 on First Reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 13–29
2. Approval of Ordinance No. 16-2024/1st reading: related to Chapter 2, Administration, Article VII Police Officers’ Retirement Plan; Amendi — to approve Ordinance 16-2024 on First Reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 6, packet pp. 13–29
3. Consideration of a Resolution of the City of Cocoa, Florida, electing to not exempt certain property from ad valorem taxation, as allowed — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 13–29
4. Council Consideration and Public Comment on the use of the FY2024 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance (JAG) Grant Program - Local So — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 13–29
5. Consideration of a Zoning Text Amendment to Appendix A, Article XIII, Section 22 of the City of Cocoa Code, amending tree protection and — to approve the item on First Reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 8, packet pp. 13–29
6. Consideration of a Zoning Text Amendment Appendix A, Article V of the code of the City of Cocoa to define Transportation Terminals, a per — to approve the item on First Reading (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 9, packet pp. 13–29
7. Consideration on this First Reading of an Expedited State Review Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment to City of Cocoa Future Land Use Eleme — to approve the item on First Reading (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED — the draft minutes p. 10, packet pp. 13–29 the board corrected this vote when approving the minutes (to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7); the corrected vote is not in these records.
to install speed humps on Blake Aven ue only and to look at other traffic calming options for Stone Street (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 11, packet pp. 13–29
2. Approval of the requested road closure changes for the 2024 Space Coast Marathon and Half due to the ongoing construction in Lee Wenner P — to approve the road closure changes (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 11, packet pp. 13–29
3. Approve the grant application of $49,000,000 for the FY24 Federal -State Partnership for Intercity Passenger Rail Grant Program offered b — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12, packet pp. 13–29
4. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2025 Budget, BAF #25 -008-A, for purchase of a Monarch fire pumper truck from Sutphen Corporation for — to approve the item (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12, packet pp. 13–29
5. Approve the requested 2025 street closures associated with the proposed Special Events. (24-646) — to approve the item (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 4-1; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Patricia Weeks; nays: Lorraine Koss — the draft minutes p. 13, packet pp. 13–29
to table this item in order to obtain further information (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 15, packet pp. 13–29
to adjourn the Regular meeting of November 12, 2024 (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 16, packet pp. 13–29

Motions replaced by a restated or amended motion before any vote (1)

to install speed humps on Blake Avenue and Stone Street, for discussion (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); replaced before any vote by the restated or amended motion that follows (motion 13) — the draft minutes p. 11, packet pp. 13–29

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$13,263 — Council: Consent agenda item 2, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2025 Budget, Accepting the Bureau of Justice Assistance FY2024 Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant, BAF# 25-006-A, in the amount of $13,263.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-01-28 agenda packet (1692_01_28_2025_Ci; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-28, pp. 13–29; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2025-01-28 according to the City's minutes; the approving motion: “approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”; the amendment is quoted from that motion and is not applied in these records)
$15,653 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Council Consideration and Public Comment on the use of the FY2024 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance (JAG) Grant Program - Local Solicitation in the amount of $15,653 ex post facto, and authorize the Grants Writer to submit the City’s application.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-01-28 agenda packet (1692_01_28_2025_Ci; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-28, pp. 13–29; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2025-01-28 according to the City's minutes; the approving motion: “approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”; the amendment is quoted from that motion and is not applied in these records)
$1,119,995 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2025 Budget, BAF #25 -008-A, for purchase of a Monarch fire pumper truck from Sutphen Corporation for $1,119,995.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-01-28 agenda packet (1692_01_28_2025_Ci; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-28, pp. 13–29; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2025-01-28 according to the City's minutes; the approving motion: “approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”; the amendment is quoted from that motion and is not applied in these records)
$49,000,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): requested (grant application): the amount asked for in a grant APPLICATION the body approved or authorized (whether it was awarded is not in the record; not an adopted amount). “Approve the grant application of $49,000,000 for the FY24 Federal -State Partnership for Intercity Passenger Rail Grant Program offered by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) for the construction of a Cocoa Multi-Modal Station.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-01-28 agenda packet (1692_01_28_2025_Ci; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-01-28, pp. 13–29; approved with amendments by the City Council on 2025-01-28 according to the City's minutes; the approving motion: “approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of November 12, 2024 with an amendment to correct the vote on the motion that was held on Public Hearing item VI.7”; the amendment is quoted from that motion and is not applied in these records)

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 1692_01_28_2025_City_Council_Agenda_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-01-28 meeting, packet pp. 13–29; lines 351–1006 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes

 
      
MINUTES 
City of Cocoa 
Regular Meeting of The City Council 
November 12, 2024 
A Regular City Council Meeting was held on Tuesday, November 12 , 2024, in 
Cocoa City Hall, in City Council Chambers, located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa, 
Florida, 32922, as publicly noticed. 
I. Opening Matters: 
Mayor Blake called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.   
 
Deputy Mayor Hearn provided the invocation and Councilmember Weeks led the 
assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.   
 
 The City Clerk took the roll. 
 
 PRESENT:  Michael C. Blake  Mayor 
Lavander Hearn  Deputy Mayor  
Alex Goins   Councilmember  
Lorraine Koss  Councilmember  
Patricia Weeks  Councilmember 
    Anthony Garganese  City Attorney  
    Stockton Whitten  City Manager  
    Monica Arsenault  City Clerk 
 
 ABSENT:    
 
 OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: 
 
Abby Morgan, Public Works Director;  Rebecca Bowman,  Finance Director; 
Charlene Neuterman, Community Services Director; Samantha Senger, 
Communications and Economic Development Director; Evander Collier , Police 
Chief; Jonathan Lamm, Fire Chief; Jack Walsh, Utilities Director; Tammy Gemmati, 
Administrative Services Director;  Mitch Lawyer, Systems and Support Manager; 
Corbin Gilbert, Help Desk Support Tech; and Jennifer Webster, Senior Planner. 


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II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes: 
1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of November 12, 2024. (24-653). 
* MOTION by Councilmember Goins; Seconded by Mayor Blake to approve the 
November 12, 2024 Regular City Council meeting agenda with amendments 
to move all Council Business items in front of Public Hearings, move Council 
Business item VII.6 to VII.1 and to table Council Business Item VII.1 to the 
next regularly scheduled Council meeting. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES:  Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
2. Minutes:   (a) Regular Meeting of August 27, 2024. (24-648). 
        (b) Budget Hearing of September 3, 2024. (24-650). 
   
* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Hearn ; Seconded by Councilmember Goins to 
approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of August 27, 
2024 as written. 
 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES:  Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Goins to 
approve the minutes for the Budget Hearing of September 3, 2024 as written. 
 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES:  Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
III. Awards and Presentations: 
1. Hot Cocoa Holiday Presentation. (24-655). (Historic Cocoa Village Main Street) 
IV. Delegations:   
Stewart Buchanan, speaking on behalf of the property owner of 228 Beverly St., 
Cocoa, explained that the owner was not aware of the code liens against the 


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property but has since brought it up to compliance. He has been requesting a code 
lien reduction since May but they have not been placed on a Code Enforcement 
Agenda. Additionally, they have had a hard time in receiving a response from the 
Code Enforcement Manager. He is hoping to get on an agenda soon. 
Anthony Shacklock, 1708 Pineda St., Cocoa, spoke about several incidents he has 
had with the Cocoa Police Department. He spoke about a stop sign approximately 
two blocks from Cambridge Elementary that many people are running and nothing 
is being done. Additionally, he experienced an incident where an aggressive dog 
ran inside his own home and killed his cat. The last incident involved a fender 
bender between himself and someone else . He got out of his vehicle and took 
photos of the damage as well as the gentleman who hit his car. The gentleman 
then proceeded to try and hit him with his car. In all of these instances his 
experience with the Cocoa P olice Department was less than satisfactory. He 
shared that he is losing hope with the Police Department and hopes something 
can be done.  
Paul Kamus, 116 Olive St., Cocoa, spoke about a main break incident that took 
place near Cocoa Village that he called in to report. He provided Council with some 
information on how to report main breaks if anyone comes across one.  
V. Consent Agenda: 
 
(A) General Consent Items:  
 
1. Approve a Resolution to Amend the Financial Operations Manual (FOM) by 
updating Section 5, Accounts Payable. (24-448). (Finance Director)  
2. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2025 Budget, Accepting the Bureau of 
Justice Assistance FY2024 Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant, BAF# 25-006-A, in 
the amount of $13,263. Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number 
and replenish Fund Balanc e with the excess Budget, Project Number GR2502. 
(24-592). (Police Chief) 
3. Requesting settlement authority for the tentative settlement agreement between 
former City of Cocoa Police Sergeant Nicholas Moon and the City of Cocoa 
authorizing the payment of the Workers’ Compensation settlement.  (24-611). 
(Administrative Services Director) 
4. Approve Amendment #1 to the Interlocal Agreement between the City of Cocoa 
and the Diamond Square Community Redevelopment Agency for the Michael C. 
Blake Subdivision. Approve A Resolution Amending the FY24 Budget, BAF#24 -
134-ITF. (24-636). (Community Services Director) 


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5. Approve a Resolution Amending the Fiscal Year 2025 Adopted Budget, BAF 25 -
001-A1 to A3, (Group#399) for the purchase orders rolled over to Fiscal Year 2025. 
This is due to unspent funds budgeted for capital projects and specific operating 
accounts. These f unds are provided using various Fund Balance Reserves and 
other Revenue Sources. Allow for the City Manager to make any further 
adjustments to the PO Roll, due to Retainage or Excess Budget. (24-644). 
(Finance Director) 
(B) Multi-Year Contracts: 
 
6. To approve participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with H&H Liquid 
Sludge Disposal Inc., Branford, Florida, and Approve a Multi -year Contract from 
FY2025 through FY2027 with two (2) one year extension options; To Authorize the 
City Manager to Exe cute the Contract to provide certain services with respect to 
biosolids transportation and disposal utilizing the City of Holly Hill’s Contract RFP# 
24-WW-01: Sludge Removal, Hauling and Disposal Services effective through 
June 27, 2027; To authorize th e City Manager to approve annual renewals and 
associated Purchase Orders. (24-619). (Utilities Director) 
 
7. Council Approval to Enter Into a Multi -Year Contract with Flock Safety for Four 
Units for License Plate Readers to Assist in Crime Solving for the City. (24-621). 
(Police Chief) 
 
8. Approve a multi -year agreement (3 -Years) with a technology provider through 
CDW-G, Inc. for software licenses and maintenance under the terms and 
conditions of the Sourcewell 121923 CDWG -Software (121923) cooperative 
agreement. Authorize the City Manager t o finalize and sign the agreement and 
approve potential future additional licenses to be added to the agreement as 
necessary each year and related purchase orders for FY 2026 and FY 2027. (24-
625). (Chief Technology Officer) 
 
*****This Item is Confidential per FS 119.0725 and Not for Public Release****** 
* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Hearn ; Seconded by Councilmember Koss  to 
approve the Consent agenda. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES:  Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
VI. Public Hearings: 


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1. Approval of Ordinance No. 17 -2024/first reading: Amending Chapter 2, 
Administration, Article VIII, Firefighters’ Retirement Plan of the Code by amending: 
Section 2-326, Cost of Living Increase; Section 2-331, Deferred Retirement Option 
Plan; Providing for Codification; Providing for Severability of Provisions; Repealing 
all Ordinances in Conflict Herewith and Providing an Effective Date. (24 -602). 
(Administrative Services Director) 
 
City Attorney Garganese announced that this is the First Reading and read the title 
into the record as follows: 
Ordinance 17-2024 
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, BREVARD 
COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE 
VIII, FIREFIGHTERS’ RETIREMENT PLAN, OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES 
OF THE CITY OF COCOA BY AMENDING SECTION 2 -326, COST OF LIVING 
INCREASE; AMENDING SECTION 2-331, DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION 
PLAN; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY 
OF PROVISIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH  
AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
 
Ms. Gemmati provided an explanation of the item.  
* MOTION by  Mayor Blake;  Seconded by Deputy Mayor Hearn to approve 
Ordinance 17-2024 on First Reading.  
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
Paul Kamus, 116 Olive St., Cocoa, shared that an annual conference for new 
trustees is being held tomorrow, November 13, 2024, in Daytona Beach for those 
who want to learn more. 
There being no further questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing 
was closed.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
2. Approval of Ordinance No. 16-2024/1st reading: related to Chapter 2, 
Administration, Article VII Police Officers’ Retirement Plan; Amending Section 2 -
196, Benefit Amounts and Eligibility; Amending Section 2 -198, Disability; 
Amending Section 2 -218, Deferred Retirement Option Plan; P roviding for 
incorporation into the Code; Providing for severability of provisions; Repealing all 


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ordinances and resolutions in conflict herewith and providing an effective date. (24-
604). (Administrative Services Director) 
 
City Attorney Garganese announced that this is the First Reading and read the title 
into the record as follows: 
Ordinance 16-2024 
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, BREVARD 
COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION, ARTICLE 
VII, POLICE OFFICERS’ RETIREMENT PLAN, OF THE CODE OF 
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF COCOA BY AMENDING SECTION 2 -196, 
BENEFIT AMOUNTS AND  ELIGIBILITY; AMENDING SECTION 2 -198, 
DISABILITY; AMENDING SECTION 2-218, DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION 
PLAN; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY 
OF PROVISIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH 
AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
 
Ms. Gemmati provided an explanation of the item.  
 
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
Paul Kamus, 116 Olive St., Cocoa, wished to ask for clarification. 
There being no further questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing 
was closed.  
* MOTION by  Mayor Blake ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Hearn  to approve 
Ordinance 16-2024 on First Reading.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks1 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
3. Consideration of a Resolution of the City of Cocoa, Florida, electing to not exempt 
certain property from ad valorem taxation, as allowed under section 
196.1978(3)(o), Florida Statutes, providing for conflicts, severability, and an 
effective date. (24-616). (Planner) 
 
City Manager Whitten provided an explanation of the item as well as staff’s 
recommendation. 
 
1 Councilmember Weeks left the meeting at 7:04pm & returned at 7:07pm 


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Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
There being no questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing was 
closed.  
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to approve the 
item.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
4. Council Consideration and Public Comment on the use of the FY2024 Edward 
Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance (JAG) Grant Program - Local Solicitation in the 
amount of $15,653 ex post facto, and authorize the Grants Writer to submit the 
City’s application. (24-617). (Police Chief) 
 
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Goins to approve the 
item.  
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
There being no questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing was 
closed.  
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
5. Consideration of a Zoning Text Amendment to Appendix A, Article XIII, Section 22 
of the City of Cocoa Code, amending tree protection and preservation standards 
and procedures related to waivers of these requirements. (24-639). (Planner) 
 
City Attorney Garganese announced that this is the First Reading and read the title 
into the record as follows: 
Ordinance 18-2024 
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, 
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF 
THE CITY OF COCOA REGARDING TREE PROTECTION AND 
PRESERVATION; AMENDING PROCEDURES RELATED TO WAIVERS OF 


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TREE PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS; PROVIDING 
FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR INCONSISTENT ORDINANCES AND 
RESOLUTIONS, INCORPORATION INTO THE CODE, SEVERABILITY, AND 
AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
 
Ms. Ribeiro provided a presentation2 and explained the item. 
 
Councilmember Weeks asked for clarification regarding the credits and what they 
equal to in dollars. In response, City Manager Whitten provided clarification on the 
change being proposed and Ms. Ribeiro explained how the credits work and the 
dollar amount variations.  
 
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Goins to approve the 
item on First Reading. 
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
There being no questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing was 
closed.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
6. Consideration of a Zoning Text Amendment Appendix A, Article V of the code of 
the City of Cocoa to define Transportation Terminals, a permitted use applicable 
to properties located in M-1 zoning district and as a special exception use in C -G 
General Commercial district and commercia mixed use PUDs. (24-640). (Planner) 
 
City Attorney Garganese announced that this is the First Reading and read the title 
into the record as follows: 
Ordinance 19-2024 
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, 
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA; AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF 
THE CITY OF COCOA TO DEFINE TRANSPORTATION TERMINALS; 
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR INCONSISTENT ORDINANCES 
AND RESOLUTIONS, INCORPORATION INTO THE CODE, SEVERABILITY, 
AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
 
2 Exhibit A: Ordinance 18-2024 Presentation 


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Ms. Ribeiro provided a presentation3 and explained the item.  
 
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public.  
There being no questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing was 
closed. 
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Mayor Blake to approve 
the item on First Reading. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
7. Consideration on this First Reading of an Expedited State Review Comprehensive 
Plan Text Amendment to City of Cocoa Future Land Use Element Policy 1.1.2.6(F), 
relating to the Mixed-Use future land use category, to provide additional flexibility 
for allowable uses on the ground floor of vertical mixed -use buildings eligible for 
density bonuses under the Comprehensive Plan. (24-654). (Planner) 
 
City Attorney Garganese announced that this is the First Reading and read the title 
into the record as follows: 
Ordinance 14-2024 
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COCOA, 
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A LARGE SCALE 
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT; AMENDING A POLICY IN THE 
FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT RELATED TO THE MIXED -USE FUTURE 
LAND USE CATEGORY, ESTABLISHING THE A UTHORIZED USES 
PERMITTED ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF A MIXED USE BUILDING, SUCH 
MIXED-USE BUILDINGS BEING ELIGIBLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY 
BONUSES GENERALLY OF AN ADDITIONAL FIVE (5) DWELLING UNITS PER 
ACRE FOR VERTICAL MIXED -USE BUILDINGS AND UP TO 125 DWELLIN G 
UNITS PER ACRE FOR VERTICAL MIXED -USE PROJECTS IN THE VERY 
LIMITED GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IDENTIFIED IN POLICY 1.1.2.6 OF THE 
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REQUIRING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 
BY THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS 
DEEMED NECESSARY AND ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL; FOR 
THE REPEAL OF PRIOR INCONSISTENT ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, 
 
3 Exhibit B: Ordinance 19-2024 Presentation 


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INCORPORATION INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SEVERABILITY, AND 
AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND LEGAL STATUS OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT. 
 
Patrick Murray, RVi Consultants, gave a presentation4 and explained the item.  
 
Councilmember Koss shared her concerns and spoke about the Bank of America 
building in Cocoa Village. Additionally, she discussed the importance of 
maintaining the character of the Village as well as maintaining its vitality5.  
 
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing to the public6.  
Linda Dolphin, 2100 N. Indian River Dr., Cocoa, provided a suggestion to Council 
for consideration. 
There being no further questions or comments, the public portion of the Hearing 
was closed.  
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Hearn to approve the 
item on First Reading. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
VII. Council Business: Moved Before Public Hearings 
1. Consider the reappointment of Ron Chabot through November 2027; Consider the 
appointment of Katherine Stewart and Joseph Bachand to fill one Regular member 
vacancy and one Alternate member vacancy on the Planning and Zoning Board. 
(24-587). (Administrative Services Director) Tabled  
1. To Provide Direction to Staff for the installation of speed humps in Diamond Square 
on Stone Street and Blake Avenue under an exemption to the City’s speed hump 
policy as approved on July 12, 2022. (24-656). (Councilman Goins) 
 
 Councilmember Goins talked about the need for speed humps on Stone Street 
and Blake Avenue due to the speeders.  
 
 
4 Exhibit C: Mixed Use Future Land Use Category – Comp Plan Amendment 
5 Deputy Mayor Hearn left the meeting at 7:57pm & returned at 7:59pm 
6 Councilmember Goins left the meeting at 7:59pm & returned at 8:01pm 


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 Ms. Wilkes, on behalf of Principal Cole, also spoke about the speeders in the area 
and the concerns for the children who attend Emma Jewel Charter Academy. 
 
* MOTION by  Councilmember Goins;  Seconded by Mayor Blake to install 
speed humps on Blake Avenue and Stone Street, for discussion. 
 Councilmember Weeks shared her concerns about installing speed humps and 
emergency vehicle response times being delayed. She explained that while she 
does feel that security measures need to be taken in that area, speed humps may 
not necessarily be the answer. 
 Councilmember Koss also talked about looking at other options  first such as a 
flashing light. 
* MOTION AMENDED by Councilmember Goins; Seconded by Mayor Blake to 
install speed humps on Blake Aven ue only and to look at other traffic 
calming options for Stone Street.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
2. Approval of the requested road closure changes for the 2024 Space Coast 
Marathon and Half due to the ongoing construction in Lee Wenner Park. (24-607). 
(Comm. & Economic Dev. Director) 
 
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to approve 
the road closure changes. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
3. Approve the grant application of $49,000,000 for the FY24 Federal -State 
Partnership for Intercity Passenger Rail Grant Program offered by the Federal 
Railroad Administration (FRA) for the construction of a Cocoa Multi-Modal Station.  
Authorize the City Manager to sign any documents related to the grant application. 
(24-633). (Comm. & Economic Development Director) 
Ms. Senger shared that this item is for the internal grant application form. Staff will 
repurpose the grant application submitted for the CRISI grant with information 


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provided from a follow -up meeting regarding that grant application.  
 
Earlier this year, Cocoa City Council earmarked $5,000,000 ($2.5M FY24 & $2.5M 
FY25) in economic incentives to support the project which can be used towards 
the matching component of the  grant. The recent commitment of $5,000,000 in 
tourism development tax money approved by the Brevard County Board of County 
Commissioners at their May 7, 2024, meeting will also be put towards the match 
component. 
 
If awarded this grant, staff will prepare  an agenda item to accept the grant and a 
BAF to provide budget for the grant-funded project. 
* MOTION by  Councilmember Koss ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Hearn  to 
approve the item. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
4. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2025 Budget, BAF #25 -008-A, for 
purchase of a Monarch fire pumper truck from Sutphen Corporation for 
$1,119,995. (24-637). (Finance Director) 
 
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to approve 
the item.  
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
5. Approve the requested 2025 street closures associated with the proposed Special 
Events. (24-646). (Comm. & Economic Development Director) 
 
 Ms. Senger pointed out that Council may notice that the Mardi Gras parade is not 
on the schedule for next year. Staff has received complaints over the last several 
years from businesses in the Village who have to shut down for the evening. Staff 
has worked closely with the event organizer to try to come up with other ways to 
celebrate Mardi Gras, and the organizer has been very supportive to try to 
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* MOTION by Councilmember Koss; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to 
approve the item. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Weeks 
 NAYES: Koss 
 THE MOTION CARRIED (4-1) 
6. To Provide Direction to Staff for the installation of speed humps in Diamond Square 
on Stone Street and Blake Avenue under an exemption to the City’s speed hump 
policy as approved on July 12, 2022. (24-656). (Councilman Goins) Moved to VII.1 
 
VIII. City Business: 
1. To Provide Direction to Staff for Funding and New Policies, if Necessary, for the 
Indian River Drive Septic to Sewer Conversion. (24-599). (Councilwoman Weeks)  
 Councilmember Koss wished to point out an error in the staff report. Additionally, 
she recused herself from voting due to a conflict of interest7.  
 Councilmember Weeks talked about the project and shared that she would like to 
advocate for the proposed Option 2, which requires mandatory participation. It 
requires all homeowners to connect to the sewer system once completed.  Council 
would need to  determine how cost overruns are funded . If cost overruns , and 
public infrastructure are greater than SOIRL funding and any applicable grants, the 
cost above the available funding will be paid for by Utilities/Utility Rate Payers. 
 City Manager Whitten provided clarification and stated that it is the cost of the 
project that is unknown.  
 Deputy Mayor Hearn asked if any differentials could be charged as a Special 
Assessment to only the 88 homeowners that this would affect. In response, City 
Attorney Garganese explained the legalities and requirements of a Special 
Assessment.  
 Mayor Blake opened the discussion to the public. 
 Frank Sullivan, 1705 N. Indian River Dr., C ocoa, spoke about saving the Indian 
River Lagoon. He explained that it is not about increasing the value of homes, but 
 
7 Exhibit D: Voting Conflict Form 8B 


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how to save the lagoon 8 and hopes that Council can make a decision tonight so 
the city can move forward. 
 Al Vasquez, 665 Seville Ct., Sate llite Beach, shared that he is here to speak pro 
bono on behalf of the residents of Brevard County and the citizens of Cocoa. He 
talked about toxicity and nutrient pollution. He shared that this needs to be done in 
order to comply with the law and  encouraged Council to get the project done 
because it needs to get done. 
 Aleck Greenwood, 640 Brevard Avenue, Cocoa, wished to point out that this is not 
a question of whether or not the City wants the project. This has been delayed 
because it is cost prohibitive. He asked if it is possible to find another method that 
is more cost effective and less intrusive.  
 Linda Dolphin, 2100 N. Indian River Dr., Cocoa, asked Council to consider 
approving Councilmember Weeks’ motion, that way this project can go out to bid. 
If the bids come in way too high, Council can decide at that time to not move 
forward with it.  
 Mr. Walsh explained that he does not feel that the focus should be so much on 
trying to add up the numbers, but rather ask the question if Council feels 
comfortable to make the utility payers responsible for any overruns. This is a large 
project and an equally large risk that has been strongly researched. He reiterated 
that there are a lot of unknowns with this project.  
James Smith, 2107 Clairemont Dr., Cocoa, shared he has lived here for forty-four 
years. He spoke about when reuse water hookups were done many years ago in 
his neighborhood. Those costs were prorated, and he wondered if that could be 
done with this project. Additionally, he’d rather be on sewer than advanced septic.  
Councilmember Weeks shared the example of the Knollwood community and 
knows that this kind of project has been done before.  
Further discussion was held on funding.  
Deputy Mayor Hearn asked Council if they  would be willing to send a 
representative to attend a SOIRL meeting to ask if they would be willing to make 
an amendment to their policy to fund any project overruns one hundred percent.  
 
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Additionally, he’d like to ask if the mandate can be applied only to these eighty-
eight homes and have enforcement measurements be brought back before 
Council. 
He is supportive of this project but would like to table this item so these things can 
be addressed first.  
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Hearn  to 
table this item in order to obtain further information. 
 THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS: 
 AYES: Blake, Hearn, Goins, Weeks 
 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (4-0) 
IX.  Informational Agenda:  
1. Approved change orders to construction contracts that the City Council has 
authorized the City Manager, by resolution, to approve in excess of the City 
Manager’s spending authority. (24-612). (Finance Director) 
 
2. Data showing the relation between the estimated and actual income and expenses 
to date. (24-613). (Finance Director) 
 
3. FY 2024 August Budget Adjustment Report. (24-614). (Finance Director) 
 
4. Any approved change orders to construction contracts that the City Council has 
authorized the City Manager, by resolution, to approve in excess of the City 
Manager’s spending authority. (24-641). (Finance Director) 
 
5. Data showing the relation between the estimated and actual income and expenses 
to date. (24-642). (Finance Director) 
 
6. FY 2025 October Budget Adjustment Report. (24-643). (Finance Director) 
 
7. Bi-weekly Report from September 23 - October 4, 2024. (24-651). (City Manager) 
 
8. Informational Only – The City of Cocoa's Open Board Vacancies. (24 -652). (City 
 Clerk) 
 
X. Reports:  
 


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 City Manager Whitten shared that at the last Diamond Square CRA Conference, 
the City was given an award for the affordable housing project for the Michael C. 
Blake Subdivision. 
 
 Additionally, the annual food drive competition between Cocoa and Rockledge is 
going on now through December 6 th. Additionally, there will be a collection event 
at the Cocoa Walmart on Monday, November 25th from 10am-3pm.  
 
 Councilmember Weeks provided a brief report on her district.  
 
 Councilmember Goins shared several photos from events he recently attended, 
including the recent Diamond Square CRA conference. He stated that he will be 
hosting an event called Talk 2 Me Tuesday on November 19, 2024 at 6:30pm at 
the Family Promise building located at 114 First Street in Cocoa.  
 
 Deputy Mayor Hearn shared that he would like to coordinate an event with the City 
Council to take a tour of the entire city in order to get a fair assessment of what 
needs to be addressed before the budget season starts.  
 
 Councilmember Koss provided a report on District 4. She talked about her Town 
Hall meeting and its successful turnout. She gave tentative save the dates for 
March 18, 2025 and October 21, 2025 for future District 4 Town Hall meetings.  
 
 She also spoke about the Brevard Museum as well as the Florida League of Cities 
conference that her and Mayor Blake attended recently.  
 
 Councilmember Koss stated that she would also like to see the Utilities Advisory 
Board be revitalized. She would like the vacancies to be advertised to try and 
recruit members so the Board can begin meeting again.  
 
 City Manager Whitten noted that he will provide a report at an upcoming meeting. 
 
 Mayor Blake provided two photos from the Diamond Square CRA conference he 
recently attended with Council.  
 
 He mentioned House Bill 619 and talked about homeowners’ insurance increases.  
 
 He thanked City Manager Whitten and Abigail Morgan for working on the 
improvements that were done at the Leon and Jewel Collins Museum.  
 
XI.  Adjournment: 
 
* MOTION by  Councilmember Goins ; Seconded by  Deputy Mayor Hearn  to 
adjourn the Regular meeting of November 12, 2024. 
 AYES:  Blake, Hearn, Goins, Koss, Weeks 


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 THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0) 
 The meeting adjourned at 9:17 p.m. 
 
 ________________________________ 
       Michael C. Blake, Mayor 
 ATTEST: 
 
 ______________________________ 
 Monica Arsenault, City Clerk

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Marine Corps individuals,

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I'm happy Veterans Day, even though I know it's yesterday.

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We're playing our first playoff game and we're going to have a

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Invocation will be performed by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Pledge of Allegiance will be performed by Councilwoman Weeks. Would everyone please secure your cell phone pages, etc., etc.

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whenever you're ready for the pledge.

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All right. Invocation. Yeah.

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So if everyone is joining me in a prayer, you have any father, I'd like to give thanks to you for allowing us to arrive here safely tonight. I'd like to give thanks for continuing watching over this city, all the citizens, our families that's here and abroad. I know that we're day late, but I want to give thanks also to veterans around the world. Continue to watch over those guys, women and guys, and their families. Watch over the city and make sure that we make only the best decisions on behalf of the

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tonight. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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of America and

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justice for

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all.

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Okay. Madam Clerk, ma'am, may we do roll call, please, ma'am?

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Yes, sir. Mayor Blake. Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Hearn.

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Happy to be here.

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Councilmember Boynes.

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Here.

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Here. Councilmember Weeks. Here.

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And City Manager Whitten. Thank you.

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Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate the roll call. Proceeding on to tonight's agenda.

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What are the wishes of council?

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Motion to approve with amendment. And the amendment moving council business up to item to section number 6 in front of public hearing. And the

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speak on item number 6, which is the speed bump policy. And I want to get

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And I didn't want her to sit and wait because I know it might be a long meeting with the public hearings.

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‸ Okay. I would second that, but I would also like to ask of a favor, please, to add this to your amendment, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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It's pertaining to the PNZ board members. One of the members accidentally was left off. So to be fair and equitable across the board, that's item number 7-1. I'm asking that that item be tabled, please.

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Yes, sir. ‸ Good.

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Which one? Public hearing number 6. No, not 6.

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Yeah, everything's shifting council business up and shifting down public hearing.

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Right. Okay. Under council. Yes, under public hearing. 6. Oh, here. Yes. Okay. And then my item number

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7-1, I asked that it be tabled. ‸ I have that one I got,

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I wasn't sure. Okay.

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‸ Thank you, sir. We're

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Yeah. Yep. We're good. Thank you. You got it. Okay.

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yeah, but I do have a question. Why are we tabling 7-1?

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Because, um, the gentleman's name.

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I can, I can explain it.

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Okay. ‸ Thanks, ma'am. His name was accidentally left off. Oh. During the preparation. And I wanted to be fair and equitable across the board. So I'm asking that we table it to the next council meeting. And we'll just proceed from there.

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Okay. Okay. Um, because I know one of those people has been waiting for over three months now, applied over three months ago.

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I'm talking about the same person you're talking about that sits on the end right down the street, right down the corner of Dixon Boulevard and Indian River Drive Road?

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No.

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about Mr. Manfredi?

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No.

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Okay, that's the one I'm speaking about. His name is not on the list.

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Ah, okay. He's already on the planning and zoning.

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He's up. Up

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for renewal. Okay, thank you. There you

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go.

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are the wishes of Council? Motion to approve.

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Second.

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We have a motion on the floor. Councilwoman

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would you turn your light off please? Thank you. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Hearn. Second.

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Councilman

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gonna ‸ call up a question. All in favor ‸ say hi hi and in a's eyes have it unanimously. Final item under minutes,

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budget

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council move to approve ‸ move to approve second

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have

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a motion on the floor by councilwoman Weeks and a second by

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to call the question. All in favor of saying I I eyes have it unanimously love the coca-cola all right proceeding on to item number

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and Presentations. who rock who ray Hot chocolate. Hot cocoa holiday presentation historic cocoa village main street I

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apologize in advance for what's about to

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city, cocoa village celebration of everything cocoa and holiday. We start off sip and stroll it's the Saturday after Thanksgiving ‸ we roll on through December so this is our annual presentation about hot cocoa holidays

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your glass of wine. The stores are dressed for

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This is how we play. Come and

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see our village in a most delightful way.

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A holiday bazaar. Amazing arts and crafts. Gifts that are original and memories that ‸ last. Arts and crafts. Arts and crafts. This is how we play. Come and see our village in

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most delightful way. The chocolate's nice and hot. there's lots of stuff to find a hunt through cocoa village stores is great at Christmas time Fill your tin,

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village in a most delightful way.

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her every day. oh Boat parade, boat parade, this is how we play. Come and see our village in a most delightful way. A

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lighted

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bike parade with wheels from two to four. The penny farthing decked out fine.

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will

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leave you wanting more. Bike parade, bike parade, this is how we play. Come and see our village in a most delightful

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way.

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Come celebrate the season in a most delightful way.

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director. um As most of you know, Amanda has moved across the country and so we welcome Christopher Stagman uh this month to uh lead us and bring us into the next chapter of the

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we're

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excited. Just honored

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honored

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to being

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we're moving

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we're moving

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up yes

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you are

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hey Collier you didn't cheer us on you said sorry

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thank you Thank

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you everybody

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for indulging us. great job Look forward to

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seeing you all very, very soon.

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Thank you for having the courage to come forward. Anyone else? Before we proceed forward. okay delegations okay is it

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‸ okay Thank you very much sir.

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okay sir

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Take your time bro.

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After him. you're after him

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Mayor and City Council, my name is Stuart Buchanan I'm here tonight to speak

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the owner of 228 Beverly

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is that good

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that's

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louder there

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we go

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the last time I spoke in front of the city council you were in the old city hall. I was previously your city planner in fact Mr. Garganese and I actually started the same year when he first graduated from law school. I'm here tonight to ask the mayor and city council's assistance

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was unaware of the code enforcement issues. Those have been brought into compliance.

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and it still has not been placed on the advisory board, on the code enforcement advisory board. We already have a buyer, a family ‸ wants to make cocoa their home. We are going to lose this. and I have to tell you mayor and city council, if you look through all the documentation I've provided your ‸ new code enforcement supervisor is very non-responsive I will also point out to you that you are one of the only cities that does not have what's called a public access porthole. So the regular residents can simply go online and see where their case is and see the history of their case. I would encourage you to look at

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You can track everything. It eliminates all these issues. But we are here tonight to ask you, mayor and city council, to give clear direction to staff for the upcoming code enforcement board which is next Thursday the You can understand from the city clerk, they don't release the agenda ‸ until three days prior, so it hasn't been released yet. and everything else I've written down there for you

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And whatever that lien reduction hearing is, will satisfy the remainder. and then we can move a new

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Thank you, mayor and city council, for allowing me to speak. I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have

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no,

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no, I'm just a city planner I'm not an attorney

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you said you were with

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so I figured maybe you guys

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he was an assistant city attorney under Mr. Amari

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I worked for

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Yes

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sir

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gotcha thank you sir thank you Our city manager will be reaching out to you. okay next Mr.

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cool beans alright ‸ I'm here to talk about like three instances that I've had with the Cocoa Police Department one is that on the corner of Princeton and Pineda two blocks away from Cambridge Elementary

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and I invite all of you stop by there park your car there Not only look at how many children play there, but how many people, they will gasp with the children standing there. and you call and you call and you call I've never seen any of them there It's happening every single day. I invite all of you to go there And that leads me to my second thing, which is, um I'm here to address an incident involving a police officer that has raised serious concern about unprofessional conduct on

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my wife and I experienced a distressing situation with our cat that was killed in our own home by an unleashed dog. When we sought help, the responding officer made an alarming commenting, stating that it is natural for

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This lack of sympathy was shocking and deeply hurtful. Additionally, when my wife tried to document the dangerous dog being returned to its irresponsible owners, the officer obstructed her access out of the driveway, seemingly preventing her from recording the incident. This raises serious concerns about accountability and respect for victims. We felt treated, we felt like we were treated as perpetrators rather than victims, while the actual aggressors received sympathy. I urge the council to investigate this behavior and ensure that future interactions ‸ prioritize the dignity and rights of victims and my third one was that I had a guy follow me home and you know I stopped in front of Cambridge Elementary because I didn't want him to see where I was living I guess it was road rage I didn't even know why he was following me and he bumps my car so I'm like dude I get out and I go to take pictures I take pictures of him I take pictures of his um of his uh tag as he's trying to hit me with his car

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back and forth

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take this case. Finally, after like hours of being on the side of the road, Cocoa Police I guess had to eat it

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took down my information I call about the case

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I mean I got this guy's picture he tried to run me over and it's just like I don't know

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losing faith you know what I mean and

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thing he didn't even have a leash. They didn't even have a leash to get the dog. They had to hand him the dog like this.

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body cam footage I can prove all of this like you know he was my 15 year old cat a dog ran in my house my house and killed my cat and I ‸ just don't even know what to say anymore and thank you for your time I'm nervous

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the courage to come forward sir thank

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you

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uh mr. city manager and I'm sure you're gonna collaborate with the chief and expect a phone call

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thank you so much I appreciate you

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thank you sir

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What I'm asking if you guys could maybe look into,

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have a three digit number in the event there is a water main leak. um My thought is what we know water as H2O, hydrogen, two parts hydrogen, one oxygen. So if you go on your phone and you look up the letter or the number

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that's where the H is, and then you got the

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and then O has the number

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um About a month ago, I was coming from Merritt Island on 520, and as I was approaching the village, and I got to around just the east side of the old sun trust I noticed some water on the south side along the curb, and it was standing water, and there was no rain. But as I went further west, then I saw flowing water right there at Brevard and Willard. So I

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to that, there were numerous cars that drove by. So I circled

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then you hit

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Just years of practice working at the fire department, getting my times for calls. So anyway,

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dispatcher about the leak, and I did a public records request with city clerk's office. Come to find out, I was the only one who called it in. I'm not sure how long the leak was going, or how long before the supervisor got there, and when he got there, I'm not sure how long it took for a crew to get out there to, you know, slow it down, or whatever it ‸ is they do. But

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kind of feel, though, folks who went by and didn't call, maybe they didn't know how to go about reporting it. So I'm coming to you all, and you all may know if something already exists, or maybe this

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of, just like if you remember when

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came about, which

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area until later, but this could be something that could be a national phone number. um And just one other thing due to uh Veterans Day yesterday, I took the word home and I made it into an acronym. And to me, it's Honor Our Military Every Day. So it's just something I wanted to share with you. And

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listening to it, you

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could contact me and

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get my phone number. I'll be more than happy to share it with you on how to report a water main leak. I mean, I don't know if it's

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or what, but it ‸ just, every time I go by that intersection, I just think of what I saw that evening. And it was like, you know, here we went all those years with the road being rough. And then it was finally nice and smooth. And now we got a water main.

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So, um whatever you all could do, I appreciate you. And thank you all for serving and love y'all.

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Thank you, Lieutenant.

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will be, um uh well, this concludes this portion of delegations. Do we have any other cards in the audience?

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item with the wishes of council.

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on the

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unanimously. Proceeding on to, uh public hearing item number one, where we,

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yes, ‸ Council this is, yeah.

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yeah Yes. Thank you. Yes. I got my paper right in front of me. So we've asked that this particular item, which is number six, um our number seven dash six, pretending to provide directions for staff for an installation of speed humps

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Diamond Square on stone street and blake avenue under the exemption to the city speed hump policy and as approved by july 12 2022

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hump, can we say table? Is that table? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

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all right

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before I even get started, can just sort of the council know the difference, because I don't know the

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between each one of them. So bump hump table. What's the, what's the difference? So

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a hump is a hump and a table is a ‸ length of, of that the car needs to traverse. It's an elevated or raised table. It's more,

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more flat. ‸ And wider. Okay. Okay.

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church school, ‸ think two churches, one school. A lot of kids walk in this area. And so Blake Avenue, Stone Street has become more of a cut through to get to either to hurry up and get to 520 or to

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and get to Rosa Jones. ‸ So in that process, a lot of kids ‸ are, is in danger of

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he tries his best, probably a lot of illegal things on Sunday, but ‸ he's doing that because

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so many speeders that come down the road ‸ down Blake Avenue. So he put things in the middle to try to force people to slow down. And so I'm asking council to, to waive our current policy that we have, which is a long, drawn out process. We did something similar on Michigan Avenue. Unfortunately, a man was killed while he was cutting grass. And my, my goal in this is let's not react until when someone gets killed. Um, let, let's try to react, be proactive in our processes. I'm not saying the process that we have is bad or either to change it. Um, I'm asking for the council to, um, waive the process based on, on safety and based on our current, um, facilities that we have in that area.

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so that, that's, that's my goal for this.

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I have a, um, um,

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come now and then I will play, um, the videos as well.

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on behalf of our founder and principal,

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Let's talk about safety. I'm usually the first one to get on campus in the morning and ‸ last one to leave. So I see the traffic flow. Uh, unfortunately we have members in our community that either they don't care or they're not aware. Uh, we have scholars that come in early in the morning. We don't have crossing guards that early in the morning. We have scholars that stay after hours and we don't have crossing guards after hours. It is imperative. It is imperative that we slow the traffic down on Lake Avenue and surrounding streets leading to our academy. I would say this is better for us to put up signs saying speed bump ahead speed hump ahead, speed table ahead, then signs that says in memory of thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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is the real

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either.

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‸ Keep talking. Okay. Well, hey,

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crossing guards, excuse me. I'm in favor of providing that venue for them in reference of a speed hump or table, anything to slow the speed down. Because like on Sunday when I was a kid growing up, zooming down the street, loud music on Sunday was a slap in the face. You get your butt toe

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elders and what the church still stands for today. But my thing is, yes, I'm all about that safety first and foremost. ‸ I know we're talking about response time. My greatest concern is just trying to collaborate with public works that would, you

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know,

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address the best way to meet the safety needs of the school and the churches. Not only just on Blake, but also on Stone because there are a couple of churches on Stone Street too as well as we know. So I'm about that and I do support that.

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So ‸ this video, this video don't work probably the next one probably won't work as well. But regardless, I will have them send it to you guys emails so you can at

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hear what the students have to say. So this video were is coming from the SGA. We always try to get them involved in government processes. And so these are ‸ all the members from the SGA just pretty much saying the same thing about what they see walking to school, ‸ how they feel about being proactive as well. So that's what really the video was about. And so I know you have a light as well, but I would like to make a motion to to waive the process. I will get with along with the city manager to discuss maybe where they

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But there is some areas where it's a long distance in between the two.

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so. Yeah, yeah,

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I'll

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second for discussion. Okay. Let me ask you one other

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Okay. Let's get make

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long strip with. I think speed is an issue

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as well. But okay. Yes, sir. I second that. Deputy Mayor Hearns,

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Yeah, I was just I'm certainly in favor of it. As far as the funding for it.

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to see on the city side to fund this fully?

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I think that's up for discussion. Um, I'm, you

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I'm not sure what's in their budget as of right now, what he already got allocated for. But I'm sure that could be a discussion. Um,

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maybe it's something with city manager. You can decide best.

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Yeah, I don't know that speed humps are in the redevelopment plan, but I don't, I don't know that speed humps are a significant cost.

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Okay. Is that it, sir? That's it.

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Councilwoman Weeks. Um,

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I wonder and, um, my concern with speed humps is the response time for police and fire. I know I talked with them before and asked because people in my own neighborhood were requesting that we get speed humps and it definitely does slow down response time. And I wonder if there's any other options to slow traffic in that area.

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said there are three stop signs.

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Should you, should there be a reduction in speed zone in the area?

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anything other than speed humps since you don't want somebody, uh, to die because the police couldn't or the fire could not get, especially the fire could not get there in time because of the speed humps. That's my concern.

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So they're not, they're not as, as high at, oh, it's more just softer.

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Um, no, actually it's the same. They just have ‸ an unraised section where, where the, the fire vehicles, um, can ‸ traverse.

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so chief lamb, you would, you would be speed cushion over speed table, certainly not speed hump.

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I would ‸ be neither. Cause it will also raise our repair costs to the engines. So, but ‸ if you had

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to go.

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Okay. And so if the council approves the item, obviously we'll work with police, fire,

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public works, um, to determine sort of best locations. Okay.

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All right. Council, is that it?

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you're good. Well,

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speed hump, especially, uh, in that area with everything. I mean, I just, I have a problem with them. So I, ‸ I would say at this point, I'm not in favor of it. Not that I don't think we need some safety there. We definitely do, but there's

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got to

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be other options. I,

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I just tell you, I'll tell you my point of view.

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over a life. And so,

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are saying that either, but that's just my point of view. So when I hear that from, from fire, I totally understand repair costs. I get that.

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vigil as well.

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The car sometimes ‸ the

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kids

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not paying attention or, or, you know, I mean, that's a whole

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conversation, but that was really, um, I knew that was going to come up dealing with our safety vehicles because it came up before.

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it, but it is the response time that gets slowed down for emergencies in the area. Period. Point

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taken.

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I got

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you. Point taken.

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Yeah. And I like everyone else is want to do something to slow things down and make sure nobody is hurt.

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out in the street, mowing their lawn.

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someone sped by, we debated and the first call was for the speed humps or this, whatever, I guess that's what you call them speed humps, right?

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Or humps. Right. Um, you know, one of the issues was that they're not exactly associated with better neighborhoods. So there is an image issue. Secondly, there seemed to be other alternatives that were, uh, traffic quieting that were had less impact on our emergency vehicles. And we're actually less expensive. So, um, ‸ there were more stop signs put in. One of them has flashing.

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Of course, I'm not sure that that would apply for,

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you know,

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maybe for Stone

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Street. Probably not for Blake.

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But looking at every alternative before going to speed humps. I wish we could say that there's at least in district four, there is not one neighborhood in district four, rich or poor, where I don't get the main complaint I get is people speeding down the street. There is just a culture of speeding. Yeah,

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yeah.

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And, um, you know, we have a, we have a community. We have a, a state really that has grown up, um, serving the vehicle, the vehicle serving us and we're serving the vehicle. Everyone is, is everything is built for the vehicle, but creating those bike lanes, uh, putting in additional stop signs. I know in neighborhoods I've lived in previously outside of this state, the stop signs were very helpful.

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mean, a stop sign at every corner in an urban area is pretty standard. And, um, you still have speeders every once in a while, but it's a ‸ little bit harder to do it.

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it's a little bit easier to get the culprits.

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don't want to prolong this item.

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the stop signs we do have on Stone Street, they're blowing through them. And so, you know, maybe that's a traffic enforcement conversation as well. Um, but, and I'm pretty sure that's not the only neighborhood that has these issues. Um, but, but, but I think

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Everybody is just trying to go around to cut their time. It's not like a, just a normal neighborhood. Like they're actually truly using this as a detour constantly over and over.

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It's just people just live in Merritt Island and trying to get to Merritt Island the fast ‸ they can get there. Um, so,

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yeah, cause you know, head north us one. Back to street cut through there. On the street. Yeah. Uh, what is it? Lemon lime.

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always get confused. They cut through there. ‸ Yeah. And people just trying to find that way to, to, you know, abbreviate that time.

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Yep. So, so I do, I do respect, uh, and understand the discussion about our vehicles,

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emergency vehicles in response time. I'm not totally not against it.

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after a tragedy happens. That's my only, um, so whatever that conversation, however that, if it's a table, if it's a cushion, if it's a, uh, whatever that may be. Um, we, we, we have to do something because ‸ image ‸ right

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Wilkes. But I'm pretty sure another wing is getting done so that could possibly mean another hundred kids.

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walkers and, and, um,

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ride their bike or whatever. So,

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with city manager and Ms. We got

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you. We

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got you. Councilwoman calls.

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Uh, because ‸ I just think that Stone Street,

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street, that we'd want to consider the, uh, the tables there. But on Stone Street, I'd like to first look at other alternatives.

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Just like Michigan and using the bike lanes to slow things down on both sides.

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So, okay,

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I'll do this. I will, um, I would amend that to, to remove the Stone Street, if that please everybody. But, um, I definitely want,

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I think we have some flashing ‸ lights downtown,

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as well

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in front of the, uh,

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playhouse.

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And so maybe something,

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lights.

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On the stop signs. So, so I can remove that conversation about, uh, speed tables or whatever that is on Stone, but Stone Street still needs some of those traffic calming, um, devices.

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lights on the stop signs and other things. So I'm, I'm, I'm cool with that. I'm in

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my motion to reflect that.

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right.

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Yes. Okay.

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Yeah, just a quick follow up to what a councilman

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was saying, uh, and this from a perspective of someone who actually dropped, drove emergency vehicles before. I think the big issue is areas

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have speed humps where there shouldn't be. So that's, that's more frustrating driving an emergency vehicle. But as far as Blake, I can witness, I witnessed a vehicle. I think maybe this was earlier this year that flipped over

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So, um, I can attest is definitely a speeding issue. It's a straightaway. Uh, we know how some people like to treat, uh, straightaway streets.

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uh, the cars there.

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uh, we put in, uh, the speed, uh,

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the mileage detector, the speed, uh, or whatever that the cars only race that to see how fast they go. And

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Uh, the parking lot is across the street. So they, the pedestrians walk across the street, the students taking that into account.

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think it would be necessary to look at, uh,

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So I support that.

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We're good. Yes, sir. So, yes, sir. Ma'am. We're all good.

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Okay. Thank you very much. We have direction now. Mrs. um Wilkes, ma'am, please take this valuable information back to the proper authorities, Principal Cole and staff. We sincerely appreciate what you all do with the children of the community and the advancement of their education. It's indicative of the

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what we are. Okay. Proceeding on to the next item, 6-1 consideration for approval ordinance 13-20. well Am I reading that right yes land development code text amendment appendix a article 11 section

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that's the reason why, because

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Yeah.

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Yeah. We're on 6. Public hearing.

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thought

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was canceled. The whole section. Oh.

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one was

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of order. I just thought this particular item.

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deleted or was postponed.

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Okay. And now we're starting with two. No worries. I thought you were speaking of this one particular item.

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are

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closure changes for 2024 Space Coast Marathon and

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Yes, sir. This is just a change to the road closure that you all approved last year for the Space Coast Marathon due to the closure of Lee Winter Park, which they typically utilize as part of the route. So they've just rerouted and those changes are included in the agenda item. And I'm here if you have any questions. We

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have any questions for Mrs. Singer?

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item number 7-2, requests of road closure

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have due to the

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the floor by

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Just gonna ‸ call the question, all in favor,

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Proceeding on to 7-3, approve

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for the Intercity Passenger Rail Grant Program

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for the construction of the

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authorizing the city manager to sign any documents related to the grant application. Mrs. Singer. ma'am

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Yes, sir. uh This is the internal application form to request council approval uh to uh go for the uh federal state Partnership for

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Passenger Rail Grant Program. um As you may have heard, uh we were not selected to receive Chrissy funding for the station, but we are still determined to uh move forward. Brightline is still committed to ‸ having the

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and so we are going to continue to find new ways to uh secure funding. So this is a grant that became available, and we are going to uh repackage our Chrissy grant application.

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to make sure that we uh get that put together. um And we

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just to remind everybody, council did approve for the matching funds,

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million

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We did secure

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million

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from the Space Coast uh Tourism Office. And then we have uh

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roughly 15 million

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from the Space Coast Office of Tourism. uh That is still in that is in the approved DOT work plan. um That is the TPO portion of the funding. uh So that is still moving forward and and secured. So now, um again, we will be reworking our application and submitting that for this new grant uh that is due mid-December. And I'm available if you have any questions. No,

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ma'am. I'm happy to say I've had a dialogue at the time as he was making preparations just like myself. Representative ‸ Mike Herodopoulos, I strongly feel he's on board with this as well. But now that he's the House of Representatives, I do we like to get confirmation. But D,

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And and i i I feel good about it. I feel great about that I think we'll move forward in that direction and everyone will be on board.

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and And I did ‸ want to say,

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uh We have a phone call later this week with FDOT to review the application with the

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grant. So we'll get some information on maybe things that we could do better for the next one.

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to say something?

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I just wanted to make a motion to approve. Okay.

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Okay. yeah

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uh Yes, I i just want to put this out to the public. um Often when these decisions are made, uh ‸ majority of the public aren't here to hear the ins and the outs. um I just want to put the uh to bed any rumors of uh the application being denied due to possible incompetence of staff. That's not true. uh That uh now the taxes are going to be raised even more due to the application being

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uh denied. None of that is true. um As the mayor alluded to, I'm even more optimistic that we're going to get this money uh and get this station built. um All parties, as stated by

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table to assist in this. uh uh Brightline, f dot um Federal, State, everybody's coming to the table on this project. So uh I'm still optimistic on this as well. And uh some of the things that's being put out there is just simply far-fetched. So uh you have my approval on this. So is that emotion uh I made a motion. I'll second. uh Councilwoman

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made a motion. I'll second.

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Okay. We have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman

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and a second by Deputy Mayor Hearn. just gonna ‸ call the question.

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Go forward, direct Thank you, sir. Okay. Proceeding on the next item.

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I'll make ‸ a motion, but I would like to hear from the finance director.

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ma'am ‸ council did previously approve an agenda item for the purchase of the fire truck, um allowing the city manager to pull the purchase order for it. However, that was dependent upon us getting uh some debt ‸ financing in place. I am working with a financial advisor on uh reviewing bids and terms to um get that figured out and be brought to you in December.

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So I am requesting approval to put a budget amendment in place. And then when we get the debt financing in place and I bring the agenda item to you, we'll bring you a budget

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adjustment to reverse this.

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Thank you. Do

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All in favor, say

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that we know of for the year. um So this is our annual request for street closure approval. I just wanted to make one note. Most of these are annual events that happen year after year. So you may be familiar with them. I do want to just make one note that

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We are not. We are planning this year to not have a Mardi Gras parade. They are still doing the concert in the park, but will not be shutting down the streets of the village with fences and

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because that you may hear about that. So I wanted to make sure you knew it. um We've we received for many years complaints from businesses being shut down for for the evening during the event. And so we are going to and have asked uh the organizer of the event um has worked with us and tried to find other options as well to see how we could work together. And he's very supportive. So I just wanted to make note of that. And

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I'm here to answer any questions that you ‸ might have.

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Motion

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to What are we talking about now?

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We've got lots of parades, just not the Mardi Gras parade.

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Second by Councilwoman Weeks.

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going to call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye.

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can either continue on and just end up with public hearings, or would you like to just move forward to city business? What are the wishes of council? What would you like to do, council?

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to staff for funding new policies, if necessary, for Indian River Drive, septic to sewer conversion. Councilwoman Weeks, that's the reason why I'm asking. I understand. Yes, ma'am. So we will go in that direction. The ‸ floor is yours, ma'am.

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that in the agenda? Because with the agenda, we are going to go to public hearings and then do the... ‸ just asking because people that may have planned to come for something that was going to be the last item may not be here at this time. I

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have no problem if we go back to the

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And that's the reason why I asked you all, what would you like to do?

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that okay,

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So I can start with okay with the first uh public hearing item is an ordinance 17-2024. uh An ordinance of the city council of

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amending chapter 2 administration. Article 8, Firefighters Retirement Plan of the Code of Ordinances of the city of

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By amending section 2-326, cost of living increase, amending section ‸ 2-331, deferred retirement option plan, providing for codification, providing for severability of provisions, repealing all ordinances in conflict here with and providing an effective date. This is first reading, public hearing item. Thank you very much,

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‸ Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Okay. um So this came up um during union negotiations this year. ‸ We finalized our three-year contract. And as a result of that, we negotiated pension changes. And it's been a common practice in retirement plans to increase the term of the drop, which is a deferred retirement option. And right now

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And what a drop is, is where you're still actively working, but your pension payment is going into an account. And so it's um a common, like the Florida retirement system just adopted this. And so this came up in union negotiations that um it'd be popular to do. There's no impact to the city to do this. So um we negotiated those changes. We wrote the ordinance with the pension attorney and our pension attorney and the fire pension attorney. And then that was one of the changes. And another one was the cost of living increase. This really isn't a change in benefit. the This is really just fixing a language that if there was a decrease in the CPI, that we wouldn't take benefits away from a retiree. So their pension benefit would just remain the same. So.

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So this agenda item has no impact to the plan at all. um And it's

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if he wants to do the drop for eight years. So that was to give them the option for current or future um firefighters to go to eight years in the drop.

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to stay. Like if they're already in the drop, they might not want to add on three years. So that's what I meant by that. yeah

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I know I'm gonna ‸ make the motion, but I hear from the public. I'm looking for a second to approve this particular item here. Second. Okay. We have a second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Hearns. Okay. Any other questions for Mrs.

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Seeing none, chair like to close this portion to the council and open it to the public. Please come forward. state your name and your address.

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Just to let you all know in the public know, tomorrow the Division of Management Services, which is the retirement system for Florida for local law plans, which is the fire and police, they're having their annual conference in Daytona. And tomorrow's session is for new trustees or council members who want to get an understanding of a local law plan, defined benefit plan. So it starts at 8 30 tomorrow. And I just wanted to share that with you.

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And then it'll be Thursday and Friday for more seasoned ‸ trustees. So thank

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you.

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you very much. Anyone else?

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to the council.

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favor ‸ saying aye. Aye. in the nays. Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to the next item. Approval ‸ of ordinance number 16-2024. First reading related to Chapter 2 Administration Article 7 Police Officers Retirement Plan. Amending Section 2. 196 Benefit Amounts and Eligibility. Amending Section 2-198 Disability. Amending Section 2-218. Deferred Retirement Option Plan. Providing for incorporation into the code.

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variability of provision. we're pulling all ordinances.

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resolutions

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conflict here within. Provide an effective date. and

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An ordinance of the city

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Police Officers Retirement Plan. Of the code of ordinances of the city of

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By amending Section 2-196. Benefit Amounts and Eligibility. Amending Section 2-198 Disability. Amending Section 2-218. Deferred Retirement Option Plan. Providing for codification. Providing for severability ‸ provisions. Repealing all ordinances in conflict here with and Providing an effective date. And this is public hearing item. there Thank ‸ you very much.

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Okay, ‸ And this item is almost identical. The only thing different about this one, the police, was we added an additional disability pension benefit in the event if there's an active shooter scenario.

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And we do like what one plan has, the other one has. And so, so anyway so we decided to add that in this since we

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the opportunity ‸ since we were opening it up and then this is um talked about in the police pension board in May and so this is actually

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board so um and that's why we're here for this and then we also did the cost of living change as well on their item I mean

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in the event that the CPI was a negative okay

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do we have any questions for Mrs.

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this

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is the first reading the second reading on these will be December 10th the regular meeting December 10th

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Okay, seeing we have no questions for her, we'd like to close this portion to Council, ‸ to the public. Please come forward and state your name and elaborate on this particular item. Going once.

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okay if

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okay cool I just uh finished my term on the police pension board uh end of September so that was something that I was curious about so thank you very much

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this is this is

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indicative

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of the great things we're doing in the great city of Coco sir we stand ‸ with uh employees Any other ones? From the public, please come forward and say your name. Seeing none,

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the public

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I said unanimously ‸ okay the next item and I'm just trying to make sure my because my paper has something a little different but we a-okay consideration of a

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Is that the correct one? Correct?

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Decimal point 1978.

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Florida statutes providing for conflicts, severe ability, and an effective date. planner

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mr. mayor i'm doing this one

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okay sir

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um this past legislative session the live local act was amended to allow certain properties, basically properties that are affordable housing properties to be exempt from, uh

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taxation or property taxation. um and so, as you know, um uh ‸ we've, uh concentrated on building the city's tax base. And so, this recommendation is for the city council to, to elect to not exempt those properties from, uh

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you can

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of affordable housing housing in the metropolitan statistical area and so we're recommending that you that you uh approve the staff recommendation to approve the resolution electing to not exempt certain properties from

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provided under the statute uh that you

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the section that you reference thank

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you sir thank you very much um

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city manager do we have any questions for the city manager

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hearing I will give the audience the opportunity to to address their concerns do we have any

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portion of the meeting of to the Council and give it to the public. Please come forward and state your name

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to address this particular item. Going once,

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‸ going twice.

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like to close this portion of Council, excuse me, the public

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staff recommendation and I'm looking for a second I'll second both of you did it

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the grant writers to submit the city's application. Chair, like to make a motion to approve?

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the floor by

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chairs will call the question. All in favor, saying aye. Aye. And the nays, eyes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number six, consideration of zoning text amendment, appendix A, article 13, section 22 of the city of

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Code, amending tree protection and preservation standards and procedures related to the waivers of these requirements. Okay, and I will listen to the planner.

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Mr. Mayor, just, just want to interrupt you right quick. um The grant that you just made a motion to approve, we didn't allow for public comment.

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in the audience would like to um address this concern about the the Byron Memorial Justice Assistance, better known as JAG grant program? My apologies. I'm just so, I believe in this. This has been a great, um JAG grant program and it's helped the city.

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for me to recount this again or,

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that sufficient?

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sufficient. Just let the record reflect. No one spoke.

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okay Okay. Got it. All right.

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on item number six. I read it into the minutes. that's right

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and this is a public item too as well.

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Okay. I'll read the ordinance and

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County, Florida,

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amending procedures related to waivers of tree protection and preservation requirements, providing for the repeal ‸ prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, corporation into the code, severability, and an

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date. This is first reading of this ordinance recommended by ‸ planning and zoning board.

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Good evening,

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the purpose of this ordinance is to revise tree preservation and replacement requirements

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preservation code that will be overseen by Planning ‸ Zoning Board. And the treatment irrigation requests that had any monetary value will be heard by the City Council. So in summary, the changes that we have for this new preservation ordinance will be the revision of the tree definition, revising replacement standards for palms, increasing the minimum land donation size requirements for um land and conservation will be lands they're conveying to the city as conservation. So we're raising that from one half acre and it will be one acre now on and from 70 feet, 75 feet will be increased to 125 feet. And also we are revising the waiver process that will be discussed today. ‸ So as you can see, um the definition that we have for the

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met meet a minimum trunk diameter of 12 inches and grow to at least 15 feet in height and can make up no more than

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of the total requirement replacement inches.

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the replacement criteria for palm trees for every palm tree measuring 12 inches or more in diameter of breast height, a replacement tree with a minimum size of

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inches will be required. So the guidelines for tree preservation credits provide

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extra credits for each tree preserve in public conservation areas

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of course, conservation areas now require a minimum size of

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acre in a width of 125 feet unless the city council approves otherwise. ‸ This amendment encourages larger conservation spaces and rewards tree preservation. So currently all waiver requests go to the board of adjustments, including those regarding landscape code requirements and tree preservation. Under this new revision

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for the landscape

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will be heard before the planning zoning board. however if that request involves an elimination or reduction of any monetary value, will be heard before the City Council, who will make the final decision. So, the amendment aligns with the City of

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comprehensive plan, particularly in areas related to sustainable development in urban beautification. By refining landscape and tree preservation standards, this ordinance will enhance compliance with local zoning codes designated to support the City's environmental and community health objectives. so staff

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on this first reading that the City Council approve the Land Development Code Amendment, Appendix 8, Zoning Article 13, Section

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and replacement requirements with specific guidelines for palms. And to clarify the waiver requests to the above section of the zoning code will be overseeing by the planning zoning board. And

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As we discussed before, the proposed changes will include the revision for the tree definition, the replacement standards for palms, increasing the minimum land donation size requirements for conveyance of land for conservation. And

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and

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and also revising the waiver process. the

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i'll be open if you have any questions.

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have any questions for

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uh councilwoman um

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acre to an acre and 75 to 125 feet

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for them that they can convey to the city to be dedicated as conservation ‸ area in an exchange. They will get credits for their tree mitigation

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okay so they So any development they would have to give no matter what the size of the development they would have to get donate an acreage

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If they have available normally this is more associated associated with multi-family developments there are PUD. Right. So when they're um you know so normally the the they have the acreage to make it available to try to negotiate and and a good example would be Adamson Creek. Right. They have a huge conservation area in that area that was dedicated to the city in the

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John. Okay. Mr.

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Mayor if I may. Yes sir. that They again they're not required to make any donation but if they choose to make a donation of land then they don't get credits until um under this revision until it's a one acre and a minimum of a 125 feet. uh in size there so okay

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there so again it goes from uh currently if they choose to donate for purposes of receiving credit towards tree mitigation it's currently one half acre and 75 feet this would be raised to one acre and 125

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‸ Okay. And my other question is about when you say they get credit how much of a credit do they get what what is a credit equal to in dollars? go back a couple of slides.

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uh well normally uh every development they have to have a tree inventory that is done so there's you know they provide landscape plans a tree inventory so there's a whole analysis that is done before they we can take these credits in consideration. Right.

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I just didn't know um what a credit was equal to in in dollar value you know I mean it's eight credits eight hundred dollars or what what does is that is that how it works?

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Yeah it goes it goes by by the trees there so so it's right here on the chart. um

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to look the exact amount

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just don't

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be uh trees and species that are protected

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and of course we have invasives

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you know they don't count and things like that so it's a whole process. Well

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and and that part I understood I just didn't see anywhere what a credit would equal to in dollar and uh back to the developer as far as that goes. ‸ I was just curious on that score as to how these credits add

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up. But but Lucy in terms of trees so so every tree that's

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relationship for every tree? They get a three tree credit?

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Yes. okay And I just found here ‸ the table. um

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they will

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24 inches and up you know for all the specimen trees then it's 200 per inch that is not replaced.

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Okay. And so that's a three to one ratio. So every tree whatever the whatever the inch diameter is there that's in the conservation area you get credit for three trees times whatever the cost that Lucy just went over.

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Well I'm in favor of the um the palm tree because I do think they are trees people moved to Florida for our palm trees. So okay thank you very much for your answers. Appreciate that. I'm done. Is

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that it ma'am?

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Yeah the palm trees in fact our state tree is a palm tree right?

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right. um okay first of all I want to say thank you for increasing the minimum area and the reason that's really important is that we see this when they're

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know they're talking about ‸ these corridors building these

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for wildlife that you have to have uh from an environmental management standpoint you have to have kind of a minimum amount of land for it for it even to have any ecosystem benefit. So yes. So that's good and uh also I think um uh ‸ leaving the mitigation to council and moving um the others to the uh tree board is is more appropriate. um

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was concerned initially because it seemed like we were downgrading the palms because they did not have they were not as we were prioritizing ecologically beneficial tree species. ‸ and palm trees do have ecological benefit and therefore provide ecosystem services to us.

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I was also concerned because and and I'm still concerned the 12 inch which is this will be the minimum that a tree can be to be considered a tree.

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a 12 inch diameter. um But my real concern is the, probably my biggest concern and more of a concern since we spoke earlier, is the three inch replacement tree.

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you know what that is based on? What, what we determined that is

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order to replace one of these trees, that would be 12 inches in diameter, they would need to replace it with a three inch replacement tree.

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Yeah, that ‸ would be the minimum that's the minimum And that would be

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inch palm tree. ‸ sorry? Three inch palm tree?

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tree. Okay, yeah,

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number so they have, you know, Yeah,

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replacement for palms it's all, it's all in the ball, the size of the ball is, is how they, uh how they measure those trees and determine if they can transplant them or not. um okay

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‸ I had asked for some analysis. I don't know if we ‸ were able to do that to determine, you know, where the issues were because,

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What is the value of the mitigation banks? Because I understand that's the issue that there was a fairness issue that some developers say, uh say the framework group, say, uh the, the cirrus development did not have a tree mitigation. I don't believe they did because they were developing developed land. They were redeveloping land versus,

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where they are clear-cutting a natural area.

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Not that you can't do it

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do what you want on private property provided you have the right approvals, but we have the opportunity to encourage a certain kind of development. Our comp plan makes really clear that we want, that we want to encourage low impact development

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staff is is not being followed at all, which I understand, I mean, what has it been a year since we did the last ordinance?

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I think it's been about a year.

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You know, then we need to look at it because, you know, I'm just one person on this

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pushing building. But this is an opportunity for us to encourage the right kind of building and also that mitigation bank becomes an opportunity to create, uh you know, our streets with arbors and and more trees in our city where they're appropriate.

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I want ‸ to be realistic. And I don't want to short change the palm trees because, um as was explained to me today, they are the pollinator hotspots. And there are certain birds that only like those kind of, a certain kind of palm. And they really attract the bees and they, um they're good at absorbing the storm water and breaking the, the storm energy, um as well as, absorbing carbon dioxide, producing the air we breathe. So, um so I'd like to hear the analysis, please. Yeah.

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So,

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brought before this one

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right there. um ‸ so, ‸ and councilwoman

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you're correct. So we, we, we revised last year the landscaping ordinance, um made a number of revisions. We've, we've had time to live under that ordinance. um and so, uh we, we, as staff really, really had one recommendation as, you

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you, as you recall, the other recommendations are after some discussion with you. And so our recommendation was with regards to palms for,

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lakes at

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Those are, those are the properties that, that are, uh uh 200 plus acres. um they, they, um they the palms are identified, but not the species of palms in those, uh in those two projects there. And so, ‸ the palm issue is, is trying to strike a balance between, uh protecting, uh the environment and, um meeting the objective of the comprehensive plan and at the same time not discourage development.

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13 or 14, maybe 15 conditions of approval, which included, uh some, some environmental, uh aspects. And so,

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in terms of protecting the environment, meeting the goals of the, uh of the comprehensive plan. And, I, and ‸ I'll do that by way of, of, uh comparing us against, if you will, the competition, uh Brevard County does not require ‸ replacement of palms. And so in Brevard County,

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here. We still have a requirement to replace a palm and we're not requiring you to replace it with, um with a palm like for like. You can replace a palm with an oak ‸ tree. um and if you decide to replace a palm with a palm, then that can't be any greater than,

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of the total replacement? Which one was it, Lucy? 25 or 35? You had it in the presentation here.

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oh it was,

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with any species. they

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the site. But I thought we limited the number of palms that you could replace.

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So, so again,

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uh in, in this ordinance and so um so we we believe it's fair um we

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mitigation fund, which is, you know, partly timing, partly the diligence of staff. um

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and so again, we're, we're trying to present something that, uh does not discourage development and again at the same time uh protects the environment. We believe that this actually achieves that.

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Yep, so just to confirm, so

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how we were seeing palm trees in terms of their ecological benefits, but we see them as having ecological benefits, right? We've never... Yeah,

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and and we, and again, we we've not removed them. Again, again okay so I'll compare us to the competition. The county, again, doesn't require you to replace palms. We still do. We just... uh We believe that, and again, if you look at this chart, in the

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as other trees there.

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that if it's 12 inches, 15 feet in height, then give

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palm. Again, it could be an oak tree or some other tree, but we're not discounting the value of palms, ecological value of palms. Thank

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you.

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Yes. Okay,

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thank you.

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but chair, like to make a motion to first reading of Ordinance 18-2024, Zoning

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Amendment, Article A, Section

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tree protection, preservation standards, and procedures related to waivers of these... Requirements. And I'm looking for a second. Second. Got a second by Councilman going. Okay, now, chair, would like to close this portion to Council over to the public. If you have any concerns, please come forward. State your name. Submit a card. Going once. Going twice. Thank you,

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Thank you, ma'am. Great job.

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Proceeding on to the next item. um Let me make sure I'm squared away here. Consideration of zoning. Text Amendment Appendix A, Article 5 of the Code of the City of

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to define transportation terminals. A permitted use applicable to the properties located in the M-1 zoning district, and as a special exception use in the

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properties located to general commercial district and commercial mixed use pud's And this is the first reading of this. Esquire Garganese, would you like to expound on this before we turn it over to the plan?

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yes sir

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for the

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effective date. This is ‸ first reading of this ordinance, also a public hearing item. that was pretty self-explanatory. There's been some interpretation issues regarding

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me Lucy.

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No, ma'am. No, ma'am. uh My parents and grandparents would beat me to sleep. Thank you, though.

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will apply to M1, community zoning, as allow under CW, wholesale commercial zoning district,

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and mixed uses PUD.

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general explanation, uh special exceptions allow certain uses not typically permitted under certain zoning districts and are granted under center conditions and criteria by the board of adjustments The transportation terminal is a permitted

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to include less intensive intensive activities. This cumulative zoning approach helps limited heavy industrial traffic, offering added protection for nearby residentials in no commercial areas. As you can see, um actually I don't have a highlight

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uh Also, uh by the Plaza Parkway, between uh Crestview Drive and Main Street, also we have a strip there

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zoning. the So, it would be uh the main idea was to affect those areas, and of course, uh the special exceptions under the CG and mixed use PUDs also will be affected. um I just have a quick um request for Monica, if you can just please verify the ordinance has the right definition, because I'm not sure if you was included with the agenda,

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so I don't know, I just, if you can just please

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that's attached to

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‸ for the record, too.

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and freight transportation terminals. In transportation terminals, our facility where passengers or fray are assembled.

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I just want you to read the last sentence.

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oh the last sentence, ‸ Okay. Facilities used primarily for short-term or long-term parking of vehicles should not be considered transportation terminals.

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Okay. I just want to make sure it's, uh because there was some misunderstanding with the planning zoning,

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So here we have the definition, let me know if you have any questions about transportation terminal. I just want to highlight that um the proposed zoning tax amendment is anticipated to assist in

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uh the following city goals as appear in

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their comprehensive

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plan, following the future land use element and the transportation element. So staff concluded that the proposed ‸ changes will align with the goals set

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support zoning regulations.

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for our recommendation from Council to approve this ordinance on November 6,

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this first reading that the city council approved

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ordinance of the city of Coco to define transportation terminals. And ‸ was presented today. okay

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ma'am And I'll be available if you have any questions.

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right there we go saying that Chair, like to close this portion to Council over to the public. Please come forward and state your name. You have three minutes to elaborate or expound on this particular item right here. yes going once And the Zoning Board approved this unanimously. Going twice. children close this portion to the public and return of the Council. What are the wishes of Council? i'll move to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Weeks, second by the Chair.

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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor, saying aye. Aye. aye eyes have a unanimous. Proceeding on to the next item, which is the last and final item of public hearing, consideration of the first reading of expedited State Review Comprehensive Plan

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Amendment to the City of

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Future Land Use Element Policy

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relating to the mixed use future land use category to provide an additional flexibility for allowable use on the ground floor of the vertical mix use building eligible for density bonus under the Comprehensive Plan.

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building and up to 125 long units per acre for vertical mixed use projects in a very limited geographic area identified a policy 1.1.2.6 of the comprehensive plan

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development agreement by the City Council under certain terms and conditions being necessary and acceptable to the City Council for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions the cooperation into the Comprehensive Plan so everybody had an effective date with

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and This is a transmittal hearing and public hearing for the city council to consider ‸ Thank

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It's a pleasure to see you have uh mobility on your new scooter there, sir. Long live the Bruins.

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Mr. Mayor,

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sir,

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um Patrick. Murray, that's

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Thank you, Mayor Council. uh yes Again, Patrick Murray

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the record. uh Again, this is a city initiated text amendment uh to the mixed use future land use category policy 1.1.2.6 f to allow greater flexibility of ground floor uses In vertically integrated mixed use buildings. To simplify vertically integrated mixed use buildings is a combination of different uses in the same building. The current policy requires ground

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non-commercial residential uses. the mixed use future land use category is primarily in the southeast portion of the city. This area outlined in purple is approximately 110 acres in size. The objective of this amendment is to encourage infill redevelopment while ‸ activating street frontages.

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uh these seven parcels outlined here. We were approved for an ordinance that would allow for up to 125 units per acre via a development agreement. of

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policy, uh allows for, um a mixed use building. Only retail sales, offices, services, and restaurants are permitted on the ground floor.

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The policy provides language on how to measure the floor of the street frontage. Similarly,

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Additionally, this allows for the distribution of commercial along street frontages to be utilized as the applicant sees fit.

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also

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that would require a development agreement. This authorizes no development. uh Lastly, the policy does not change the allowable uses and limits allowable uses subject to the underlining zoning.

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the density uh allowed

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the bottom floor of a vertically integrated mixed-use building. uh The proposed amendment complies with the land development code review criteria for the comprehensive plan amendments. As noted,

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no impact on existing public facilities has no impact on environmental or historic resources has no effect on surrounding neighborhood compatibility. and is consistent with the city's comprehensive plan as well as the state's comprehensive plan. Staff recommends approval. In addition, the planning

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with the city's vision. uh I want to note again, this does not change the density or intensity of a mixed use. And any development that's utilized, this amendment will be subject to site plan review and approval. Happy to answer any questions. We

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have any questions for

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doesn't affect the density. um But the five units in a mixed use development, you get five additional units per acre. Right? And it's a bonus. You get that bonus if you provide the benefit of mixed use on your first floor.

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a big difference, but just to point out, just, just to be correct and not mislead anyone.

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and only half of it be mixed use. The other half residential or whatever. And

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just wouldn't get the bonus. Because we give the bonus because we want to encourage that mixed use. Because that mixed use serves the density, serves the vitality of the surrounding area.

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is to increase the vitality and the energy of an area.

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Correct. Yes. And that's, that's, that's the point of this amendment is to, um vitalize and activate the street frontage. This ‸ amendment only, uh reapportions the requirement for commercial uses versus residential uses

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um and, and I don't have a big problem for this overall with a lot of the areas in our city. But I know Nick Herring from the framework group was here at the planning and zoning meeting. And I know that he really wants this. This is, um and

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And before anyone tries to paint me as someone that doesn't like the framework group, I love the framework group. I love the serious development. I love the fact that they try to do mostly what they do is redevelopment. So they're the kind of player we want here, but on that bank of America in front of our park in, I mean, that is our most precious space in the village. And

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wants that can't he just bring it in as part of a proposal to the PUD.

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still be subject to the PUD would follow the zoning and

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But

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we would be able to give him that concession and PUD if we were getting something in return. Is

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that under the development agreement process? I believe that would that would require some. Give me give

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the question again. Okay. When we do a PUD and someone comes to us for concessions, concessions that take away from the social use of that area that take away the benefits to the everyday

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citizen.

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we have that negotiating power. And all these conferences we go to they encourage us to use that negotiating power to get what we want. To get a city that we want to live in because of course

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over arch this this sweeping change to our comp plan. ‸ Why is that not just brought to us as part of a PUD? Yeah

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I don't I don't know that the PUD can exempt you from the comp plan requirements. The comp plan

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‸ comprehensive plan amendment too. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. ‸ So so you

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um and we we do a lot of negotiating a lot of asking up front. if I think the first question I ask is okay what do you have that benefits the city you know ‸ and that may be in terms of land donation. I mean we've done quite well in the last couple of developments um and so again just in terms of understanding your

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certain requirements open space requirements all those other requirements there. I don't know that you you can negotiate a development agreement that puts you in conflict with the comprehensive plan. which what your fingers

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I mean, we changed the comprehensive plan

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the in the mic there. But

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that All the developers, they have to follow comp plan. In the past, since I've seen all the developments, the major developments that we have, all the development agreements, um the the main exchange sometimes is related to trees, right? So, tree credit, for mitigation in exchange for amenities or um elevations or things like in that nature, ‸ there are

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You cannot have a

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agreement. And so... I just want to make that clear.

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‸ Even with the tree, now those will come, if if it's if it has anything to do with the fee, the mitigation amount, it comes to it comes to you guys. the um the the And so, and so

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There are some projects that the market will bring you that perhaps uh

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And so, this is to be flexible to the market.

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yes, it covers um um the the Bank of America site. It covers the 915 Florida site. um

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the market

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Again, without uh moving totally away from the mixed use concept. And that's why we went to the

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ground floor has to be mixed use. But perhaps you lose projects where if the majority of the ground floor had to be

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mixed use.

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we're trying to achieve uh and and bring you this recommendation.

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okay so getting back to the purpose of mixed use, to create vitality. I'm like, you know, ‸ most of the properties we have, this would not bother me. But with Bank of America and the fact that it's, that is our main drag. I mean,

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half of that is going to be residents, it it makes it private property. It takes that real estate away from

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overall. And here's another place I'm coming from. And that is, um you know, when I lived in dc and had to walk seven blocks from the metro to work, I would always avoid those blocks.

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feet and whatever. I would avoid those blocks that were, they were either, ‸ I don't know, covered parking or whatever they were. That's where the homeless hung out. That was, for security reasons, I would avoid it. It created that. that

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So it's another thing to consider in terms of this, this policy and this policy being in uh probably our most traveled couple of blocks, most important center within the village. And again, trying to keep the character of the character of

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trying to build the vitality of the village to serve that more dense population. And we're looking at, you know, once that's built, once the uh rock ledge development is finished, and once we have something on seven acres, I mean,

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area. And having those storefronts, having those services, keeps them there, keeps it walkable, keeps it viable, and keeps us an attraction and not just a high-end apartment building. So that is what I don't like about this. Like I say, it's that Bank of America property in regard to this

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already announced that they're coming to us for a uh

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uh tax abatement. um ‸ We've already done their bidding to bring the height up. So, I mean, I think we've been pretty amenable with them. I think we're going to be a great location for them.

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Yeah, ‸ just a, just a, ‸ couple of things there. Patrick, can we go over the last bullet point again? And then, and then let's talk about, I'm looking, yeah, you

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away from, the one that was on there before you

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away. Keep going. what No, no, keep going. Yeah, right there. And so, and so again, the ‸ Patrick, again,

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that last bullet point. And also, the math is still the same, right? If it's 125 units per acre, doesn't change

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So the acreage doesn't change. The math is still the same. um that's correct. Yeah.

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And it, and it's, your, your density calculation does not

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restricted to residential uses. This all, this. Is included for non-commercial uses. So this, in this includes, uh residential fitness centers. So if, ‸ a department complex has a fitness center or they have a leasing office or a maintenance building, those two could be on, on the bottom floor as well.

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Again, the, the, ‸ goal is ‸ at some point in time, again, some other council, some other city manager planning staff recommended the 100 ground floor

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use. I think the market has changed somewhat, you know, again, it's responding to the

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a good viable project because, uh they couldn't make the 100 ground floor

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use. um and again, you still have, uh

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doesn't change. The, the math is still the same. Again, this just allows flexibility. There's nothing that prohibits someone from coming in and

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mixed use on the ground floor.

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Any other questions for Patrick? Your light is illuminated. Mrs. Cost. Thank you. Seeing

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we have no other questions for Mr. ‸ Murray. Chair, ‸ like to close this portion to the uh council over to the public. Please

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‸ card?

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yes um

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a little

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disingenuous to say that the majority of the footage or the frontage will be used for um for commercial when you're only talking

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30 or 60 40 just so that that majority rings a little bit truer? That would be my only recommendation. Thank you. Can

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anyone else please come forward? ‸ is this your handwriting, Mrs. Dolphin? It

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is.

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this portion to the public ‸ return of the council. ‸ Chair ‸ like to make a motion to

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approve city council on this first reading. Proposed expedite the state. Review comprehensive plan text amendment to policy

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permitted on the ground floor vertical use buildings eligible for density bonuses and

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I just had a quick question so with this any project that came before came in it would still have to be approved as far as what they're going to do with that mixed-use correct? Yes, ma'am. It still goes to the same through the same

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review process and and and 51% I don't believe that I'm being disingenuous 51% is a majority

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okay

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thank you I'm done

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yeah

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I'll just ask the chair to the mayor to consider

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I know you're gonna find a lot of people in the village that are upset that we gave it up so easily.

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just

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gonna

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call the question all in favor say

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nays

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Okay moving on to our final item

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councilwoman costs is abstaining is that correct so she has to fill out that form as far as far

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as I

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can easy

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right

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and and she had limited to expound on anything what's the rule on that because I know I had to leave the room I know once upon a time she said ‸ the back of the room I'm just trying to get this understanding.

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for

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elected officials, is an opportunity to participate if they so choose I ‸ generally advise not to participate when you have a voting conflict. But if a councilmember feels that it's necessary to contribute some sort of factual information to the discussion discussion ‸ you know I think that would be be permissible. Define factual. Something that's not advocacy. Okay.

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the floor is yours ma'am

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go ahead yep because I have to recuse myself before I did that I wanted to offer facts that are incorrect in the agenda item, and that would be the amount that

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of the item.

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This project has been available to us since 2017. It was initially funded at

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million, but now is with the

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And that does not include the contingency that we had requested. And with that I will

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myself and move to the back of the room okay

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okay so, this septic to sewer, has been before the council a number of times, and obviously I'm new I'm trying to get to my there it is and so I wanted to start off by saying that I want to move to approve the option two in the plan in the J&K area with cost overruns to be paid by utility ratepayers Now from my rationale on this is, sewer makes the most sense. advanced septic

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at least to maintain talking to people who've already put this in and they can break and then they need replacing sewer is a one and done. we have a state and county mandate for it. The

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per what was done before the cost analysis that

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and that's a good thing but we

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out and the actual cost to hook their home up to sewer would have been about half of the estimate but of course you always want to figure high better to have too much money than ‸ Not enough. Also with this sewer the homeowners home values will increase because homes with sewer are worth more than homes with septic. And again the state and county have already mandated that they want everybody to either hook up to sewer or go to the advanced septic

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one and done with septic and it just makes the ‸ most sense to do it that way so that is why I move that we do that

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and I'll be happy to um you know that's what I have to say on the subject at the moment

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or questions for Mrs. um Councilwoman Weeks? Deputy Mayor.

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um so, um

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as in the past I've been an advocate of this project as well um I definitely see the reasoning why we need it um it's always been an issue with the funding um recently I spoke to a resident over on cocoa place um they're on septic as well in that location. And, uh there was a concern to them

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as how it would be paid uh I think you stated um putting that cost on the utility uh

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I I did say that yes um although I know from looking at the numbers before there was enough money to pay for all the, all the homeowners to get hooked up. The sorrel money will cover that. So.

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is that now true? uh

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You don't know what the cost of the project is. So the project hasn't been

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the numbers are whether it's 7.2 or the 7.2 uh

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the additional dollars that that we uh lobbied for. um Remember, those were going to be a match to uh whatever funding that had an expiration date on it, so so I wouldn't count those dollars there so if sorrel has 7.2 sorrel has 7.2 for the project project what is the project cost is an unknown number at this particular point in time.

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yeah so uh those costs uh just being fiscally responsible is is definitely a concern I'm taking that into consideration, uh especially after dealing with the

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project. um as you probably know, we had to come

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uh ‸ we

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bid it out twice um fortunately I think FEMA gave us additional dollars and we've had Abby how many change orders uh

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we've come to council twice um for contingency funding I

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know I know the the water utility change orders have been 1.7 million and I forget what they

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that

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project is also in my district and uh I've watched that project clearly and uh there's no uh

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rock in that location uh

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that popped up. So uh just me being uh fiscally responsible and hearing from other citizens um I'm just trying to make sure we're weighing out every uh detail uh to this project um the last time we brought this up I had a couple legal questions and I'm hoping

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on that. uh One of my questions were as far as the mandatory hookups, are we able to designate that only to the 88 homes along India River Drive and not to the rest of the uh city? That's on septic. one of my questions there

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I mean that's uh ‸ you know we've talked about that before that's that's a that's a possibility um based on the tetra tech report I mean the council would have to make a legislative finding that just this group of 88 should be treated specially,

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um so because any other similarly situated, um properties um should be treated the same. so I mean it's a possibility I would say

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does the state and the county mandate come into play in that

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to hook up to sewer period.

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Now, the question is whether or not we as I understand the councilman's question is whether we could the city can just impose a mandate just on the 88 homes. It's not a question of whether they get sewer or advanced septic. It's a question of if you go sewer, can the city mandate that they hook up? Because obviously, um if the city was going to go to city council were to decide to go forward with sewer

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as I understand it 100 participation will be required so 100 participation is required not only for funding purposes. um it's going to be, if it's going to be required,

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needs to be an enforcement mechanism. So the city council will have to establish not only the mandate, but in the enforcement mechanism, ‸ perhaps, um to, cover any differences. If the council's decision is, that the homeowners would cover the differences, not the general rate payers who don't stand to benefit from this particular. um

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river. ‸ But

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yeah,

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not in that context, just in the context of receiving sewer, not in the context

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lagoon benefits

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into my second question, which was the, uh if there was any overages on this project, uh obviously the one way to get that, uh that funding would have to be like a special, uh ‸ special assessment on the rate payers of utilities. um is there any way that there were overages, just that location receiving this project, the benefits from this project, uh could that fee, uh a special assessment fall only on those 88 homes and not the whole city or even our, uh

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For ‸ any, uh differential.

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Correct.

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Well, because as you know, we have uh

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‸ utility payers outside the city as well. Right.

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Right. So

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established, like fire services and, and stormwater,

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and that legal test first and foremost requires a special benefit to the property owners that are, that ‸ have to pay. So ‸ you know, I would get, I would take, uh you know, an educated go on the limb here that if, if you, if you have a differential for this sewer project that only benefits the 88 homes,

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the city's going to be in a position to say that other property owners receive a special benefit and therefore should pay part of an assessment. um because special, you know, special assessments require special benefits to the property owners You know, they have to be receiving the benefit directly. It's a legal test. gotcha

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Okay. ‸ I'll yield at this time. um I, I will say that, uh because we passed the half cent sales tax for the, uh Indian river lagoon.

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we can go back to them for more money if so needed, because they are very anxious for everybody to do septic to sewer.

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uh when, uh

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cost to do, which I've looked at, ‸ I know it was done in 2022 and,

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have a

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anxious for people to do this. So I feel like it's incumbent on us as responsible, you know, to be responsible and, um uh

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the Coquina Rock.

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And, uh from what I understand, the gravity thing goes

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just have to put the pipes in that way to hook up to it. So it's already there. It's just, we need the sideways stuff and then to hook up to the homes. And again, I just really feel strongly that this is something that we need to do. For us and for the future. And it does make their homes more valuable.

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it for

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the moment. Yes, sir. Yes, sir Do we have any questions for Councilwoman Weeks?

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Okay. um First on the list is Frank Sullivan, then Al Vasquez, then Alec Greenwood. If you have a card, please submit your card. I already have your card. That's why I'm calling your name. thank you sir

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I'm probably one of the few in this room that can remember.

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Back.

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I'm 87 years old now. You leave your boat in the river and the next morning you'd have six or seven mullet. Dead in the bottom of it because they jump around at night. If you wanted a good shrimp dinner on the weekend, if you had a dip net,

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go down the river and you could get all the shrimp you wanted. That's a long time ago. today

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i'm

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kind of confused because I'm hearing you all start talking about the benefit ‸ to raising the cost of the house, the value of the house. We're not talking about

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the value of the house.

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on everything you paid you bought. We've been arguing about this for the last year and a half with you all. It's not the value of the house. It's the value of the lagoon and

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So I think you're getting off on the

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was more than enough to pay for this project. As you probably know,

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‸ to uh get rid of the septic tanks. And the answer he got back from Tallahassee was, we've already put a couple hundred million dollars out there and they haven't taken advantage of it. We're not giving them any more money. So somewhere along the line, uh

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months ago. And uh all these other questions didn't come up then. I don't know where this is coming from, but I was hoping that we might get a legitimate council vote tonight to get this behind us and do something not for the value of your house, but

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you.

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Thank you. uh Next up we have Al

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evening. i'm uh It's nice to see some familiar faces. uh I am a managing partner for Close Waters LLC. We're a firm that does forward-looking economic impacts and we did the uh 2016 economic impact for the referendum that uh that was passed uh and and uh I recognize some faces from that activity. That was one of the best things I've ever seen in government. uh I was here two and a half years ago when this was discussed before and uh I found out it was still being discussed. uh that That's a concern to me. And I'm here uh pro bono uh on the on behalf of

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as well as the residents

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here.

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was in 2016 dollars the downside of not addressing these nutrient pollution problems was uh 4.3 billion of that So, toxic algal blooms which can happen near sources of nutrient pollution where these houses are that you're considering today can have a very devastating effect.

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in particular. If there is a toxic algal bloom that happens as a result of these nutrients, it would have a serious impact. The other reason for doing

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of Cocoa, according to the Basin Management Action Plan, uh comes from these areas uh along that uh part of

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This project is just the beginning of some 400 houses, as I understand, but it is a beginning and uh it's it's it's critical. There are only three ways to reduce this nutrient pollution from septic septic tanks. One is people leave. That's probably not something that you want to look at, but that's one way. The other way are these uh systems that are called advanced septic to uh advanced septic systems. those are That's the most expensive way to go. i I know some people that have done that on their own on

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uh They require a lot of maintenance. It's very, very expensive to go that way. And the third way is this connection to the uh you know to the city sewage processing system, which is a very refined uh system that is, uh we know it works. So the situation for uh

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is that these have to be done in order to comply with the law, with the uh you know administrative law. If it is not done, there will be fines. But the fines are nothing compared to the uh economic impact of not doing it. So I urge you to take advantage of the fact that there's money being offered right now and do it because it has to be done. Good luck. Thank you.

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and I just have a simple question. It's not an issue of whether we want this to be done. The reason why it's been delayed is because of doing it in a way that is not so cost prohibitive and also other ways of solving this issue about the nutrients that go into the river.

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uh for this advanced septic tank systems that I need to contradict what was stated earlier. It is not the most expensive way to go. I have a lot of people that prefer to go that way that have told me about solving this. They also have suggested that they'd like to be responsible for it.

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for the advanced septic tank system, and work with them or uh assisting them in some way of uh helping that to be installed rather than a complete brand new system, which means, and a lot of people don't like talking about it,

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to a lot of the costs. But the main thing is you're going to alter permanently what we have now on any river drive. And I'm talking about trees. they The majority of them are in the way. Some of the septic the septic tanks that we're talking about is in the rear of some of these properties. They're not in the front. These are homes that were built in the 1920s. And that can really add up. Now, the advanced septic tank systems, they last lifetimes. Now, there is maintenance on them and all that, but it doesn't equal in the multi-millions. ‸ There's the difference. The other problem is where they're located. These are very old, established homes, and you're going to be ruining not just River Road about how you're going to have to get it installed there, which means removing trees and things like that that are even on the ‸ property that's not even on River Road. So is it possible that there could be another method that could be less expensive? It's always best to go where you go to the route where you can get the problem solved and corrected without having to spend a lot of money. And I think really that if that's something that could be looked further into, I think that's the route that we need to go because uh

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It's less expensive. uh And you're working with the citizens because a lot of them flat will not be happy having to pay like what they're seeing other people that are going to have to pay that can afford it and not everybody can. I really feel that we need to pursue this a little further. uh

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and all that. That's not how you make decisions. We need to actually find something that could actually be beneficial financially for everybody to get this done without altering permanently the way

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Thank you.

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Next up we have

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Hi, my name is Linda Dolphin and I live in

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I would be asking you to do today would

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us to do would be to go out and get the project to bid and

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once we have a

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bid maybe it'll come in at way more than the 12 million that we have the high estimate for and then the Council can say this makes no sense. We have to reconsider but until we get a bid we're just continuing to push these numbers around. My second um thought would be I forgot it. um Let

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think for a second. um oh the second thing would be uh

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um thinking about the fact that then there's going to be a lot of cost overruns and that could be the case um because even though we get a bid in, you know, once they start the project, they could run into problems. But as Pat mentioned, we have a lot of opportunities to get money for this project. It's something that the state and the county are really pushing and the money is all free to us now and it won't be for long. So I really would encourage you to approve Pat's motion. thank you

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engineer? I

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do, sir.

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Yes, sir. So you've been doing budgeting, bidding for ever since Moses pretty much spread the red scene, right?

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from you, if you wouldn't mind, how spot on have you been throughout your tenure of this process? Just and be frankly honest if you can.

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I i don't ‸ you know I've never built a perfect project where it went in and came in exactly on budget. um And there's been a number of projects that have gone way over budget for different reasons. every Every project is unique. Every project takes risk. It's just that simple. I mean, I think overall, in my opinion, for this project, I think we should less think less about the numbers and think more about what

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kind of been talking about, which is how Councilwoman Weeks brought it up, which is policy. It's this is really the numbers will be the numbers. The agenda item wasn't updated. We didn't spend a lot of time with this. We brought it back at her request. But

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went up fairly. But did they go up equally? Did the cost of construction actually follow exactly the cost of the allocation by Save

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don't know. I mean, they went up by a couple ‸ percent, but did construction go up by one or two or three percent? These are these are tough questions to ask ‸ You

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know,

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to be. It's a successful project, I think, in general, when projects get put in at

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percent or less with something as high risk as this, which is on the coast in Coquina Rock that we've researched and done geotech work on and know that it's there, even though that

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And if this was a one or two million dollar project and we were risking it, we understand that when we talk about an eight or a ten or a

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million dollar project with a

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percent or

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percent or a

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percent overrun, those numbers can get can get out of control. But again, I don't think it's about trying to add up the numbers because to one of our citizens points that

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have to do it. We have to, you know, go out, make an estimate and then go out and then take these you know, take these projects on. i I think it still comes back to whether or not this council is comfortable adopting a policy that would say allow or require the utility to pay for any overages that occur on this project that we

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talked about in some of the earlier sessions. That's really what we're talking about. And if we're not comfortable with that, are we comfortable with putting that cost on ‸ on the ‸ Homeowners themselves specific to the area generally in the basin map or generally citywide. Is there a citywide requirement that we would want everybody to eventually connect to sewer and water if it's available and in front of their property. Another policy question that needs to ‸ really be thought about

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but just the numbers are going to move and they're going to shift around a bit. And I guess I think fundamentally the council has to come to grips with where these costs should lie. And I would just only just quickly remind you that you are a regional council making a regional water decision about a sewer project where we get, you know, probably 10 or less of our general revenues for projects such as this and 90 come from water. So when the pro when the water project goes over, typically, and there was some sewer in there, but water was driving part of the problem, right? We had a big line on Fisk and had all kinds of things. 90 of our water, our revenues come from water.

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to do the capital and get the project done. Not necessarily the same on a sewer. If it's a small change and we have it budgeted, those things can can often be managed. But when we put something in in play this large and this at risk, it has a tendency to have a completely different rub on it. And

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this project, and that would be the, if that was the policy that this council would choose. I think that that could raise some eyebrows outside of the city limits of the city of Coco because the other citizens who live outside this area require and rely on this council to act on the city's behalf.

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that provides the water services and the sewer services only for the city limits.

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Now, let me ask you from a different perspective. There's

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And out of the 88, how many? We got a positive, affirmative answer that they would sign up for

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this.

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uh We don't know. We really haven't surveyed. ‸ The only survey ‸ did with a couple ‸ years ago

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uh one of the workshops that we did. And it was really a number of questions that they asked. But the primary one was that if uh if it was free, there were a lot of people that were up for it. But if there was any

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of the people at that meeting.

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that showed up, said no. We were we were not supportive. There were costs ‸ And I can understand that. Nobody wants to get hit in the pocket for additional costs. It hurts. And maybe some people can afford it. Maybe some people can't. you know some ‸ Some of the homes along there people have inherited or or elderly or on fixed incomes, whatever. And and

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with the house was affordable 20, 30, 40 years ago when they bought it. But you know to hit them up for a large. And again, there's also an unknown. we you know You go forward with this policy. We don't know what we're if we were to say we were ‸ Just like it would be for the utility with the citizens. We don't know what the end point would be. If it goes to the citizens, you're basically asking to create a policy and not know what the impact individually to those

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until after the project was pretty far down the road. So, I have no idea. It could ‸ be

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It could be zero. It could be

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It could be

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We just, you know, we really don't know. um So, so that again, don't want to get into the dollars, but only the implication of what you have to decide up front here about this

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then how do you enforce if it goes one way and then are we are we spending utilities dollars correctly in the other

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‸ Yeah,

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we have some more cards. Sorry about that. uh Mr. James Smith.

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off. um my name is James Smith. I

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uh I've been there for, um over 44 years. And so, uh one of the things I was concerned about is that, or was thinking about was that, uh at one point we didn't have reuse water and the just city decided to, give it to the citizens. But there was a an initial hookup fee that was, um

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and most people turned it down. So the city went back and said, well, uh it would be better if we just paid for it up front and prorated it to, so they had a, the city by having the citizens use that water and the hookup was virtually free. ‸ the citizens are now paying for that expense, um forever. And so I don't know if they've ever paid that off, but, um I don't see why the same thing couldn't apply here. The other thing I've heard, and I don't know if this is true, is that if they hooked up the 88 or whatever number that is, um people from this area to the sewer, that

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And I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm wanting to know, it's been over two years. In that two years,

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that are now on this the sewer system from all the, uh development we've put in. And now these people that have lived here in this neighborhood all this time, now they, you can't, we can't uh afford to give them the sewer

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uh we're There, it sounds like you're going to try to force us to put, go to this septic to sewer. um Well,

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sewer.

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I'd rather be on the sewer system one time than, than to have that advanced

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break down. If you put something there that takes everything away, it's not going to break down that much. Thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you. Thank you. uh next up we have, uh Mr. Frank Sullivan.

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Okay. Okay, sir.

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‸ Yeah,

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I just wanted to add one more thing. um

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to sewer and all the homeowners were hooked up to it. They weren't given a choice. That also had coquina rock. That was done by the county down in

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and it was very successful. Um, and, um, and I know Mr. Sullivan said it doesn't matter. that it makes the homes more valuable, but as far

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besides the fact that they are on sewer and, but if this has been done all over

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we passed the half cent on the Indian River Lagoon and the money is there and I know we can go back and get more if needed because they want us to do this. So, but no wood was done and in the same same vein right there with Coquina it can be done

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kind of a question

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They want us to come get this money. Right. Well, well, how about the sorrow make a commitment to 100% fun all the overrun or the potential overruns I ‸ mean is it has, have they

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overrun that's my question because I don't

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think that's that's I will support it 100% if that's done it is very hard for me to to support it when when we don't know how much commitment that they will have to the funding that can come

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because okay I hear that I heard in the last two years about they want us to get this money, but then ‸ we go in and ask for 14 million, then there's a murmur about how much funding they're going to give so I just

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I haven't been to the sorrel meetings I don't know the answer to that question but that that's something that the citizens I'm for sure are asking that

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yes sir that's it that's a really good question that I have the answer for because I asked that same question.

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years ago when this project

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came up and if you read the Tetra tech report, it goes through a methodology that they needed to create. In order to fairly distribute these millions of dollars that they're collecting for this. So think about

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proportional to the distance to the Indian River Lagoon and so on and so as you move further and further away the influence of nitrogen and phosphorus diminishes. And therefore the folks that are directly on Indian River Drive within I forget how many 65 yards or whatever it was, get the most reimbursement that divided by or multiplied by the number of units is how we come up to the

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or so a million dollars. So your question about 100% funny I agree 100% you know that would make things a lot simpler but the reason why

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when I first asked us

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on was, well, you know, how do

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do we wrap up all the funding? And he said, it's all proportional, you know, related to the study so that, you know, everybody has a fair component. Not just, it's not just our component.

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They're all

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are

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metrics that have been developed in this big fat text detector tech report. And our section is in there, but it has a methodology that talks about the contributions for nitrogen and phosphorus

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other things that they did, you know, analyzing the influence of

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along the coast. And they came up with a metric, you know, is it perfect ‸ you know I don't know I think it's a it's a method in which I think that they all agreed to and adopted so that they would have a way to say, okay, we got

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how it's going to apportion to these pots of money and to these particular projects. This is how we're gonna ‸ fund it. so I think to say that you know there's additional monies available I don't know Maybe if the committee decides they want to change that policy, then yes. As it stands today

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can get per lot. And we've also chased and grant and asked them for the contingency because they tucked away a little contingency and we said, hey, we you know we think we're gonna ‸ probably need that right up front. And they wrote us a letter saying that, yeah, you could go ahead and use that contingency money as well, add that together to what you have. So, but, but based on today, that's max that I think we're gonna get does that mean it couldn't change no ‸ potentially could change next year the year after but but it's not it's ‸ as far as I know and maybe they didn't in Brevard County

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apportioned so if they have it's you know I

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money

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That was far predated

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the

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save our Indian River Lagoon tax

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the other things that they did that mandate has been on their books for a long time

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I heard somebody say they had the answer to that

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okay

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‸ so from the feeling I'm getting this motion sounds like is on the verge of dying but I want to prevent that from happening and keep this going so here's a solution I want to offer there are some questions that I need to have answered and

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from now hopefully just speedball this. first

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often ‸ they

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I would love to have a representative attend one of those meetings and ask, are they willing to make an amendment to their policy? ‸ to fund this

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have brought to the council because this although it was put on the agenda it was not much new information added but I see the importance why I needed to come on the agenda there can be some options for the council to choose as ‸ control mechanisms or, enforcement mechanisms for the mandatory hookups. because right now we're saying mandatory hookups, but what is the enforcement? we know there are some people on, on the 88, homes that don't want to go to this. we heard a couple ‸ meetings ago when we discussed this as well.

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so if that can be brought back to the council as well as within that same language only having ‸ the mandatory hookups to that 88 homes only as I stated

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septic they're not affecting the Indian River Lagoon because

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they're

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distance and they just, they, they can't imagine the hardship of having to, have that increase in their utilities right now although we haven't raised taxes taxes go up because property values going up

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I don't want to add any extra burden on citizens outside of this location so however I still support this project I want to make it happen

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love to table this and have that action I just stated happen immediately not something six months from now we can get that axe and have those findings come back to the council I would appreciate it so

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I.e. if they would commit to funding any cost overruns associated with our project We would come back and advise you of potential enforcement actions. and the mandatory hookup, of more of

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legal question there, could the mandatory hookup the appointment

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of the

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all the residents along that location as well to attend those meetings and express the same sentiment if you you bring to the council the importance of why we need this to happen

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power in numbers so the same way we come to this council with the passion I would ask that you attend that meeting as well and and let them know why we need this is done. And we need the extra funding. So it's in the council hands at this moment.

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Yeah. And then, um, um, councilman Hearns is talking about,

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if that's the case, I mean, if we can just

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mandate 88 homes is I think I'm understanding what he wants a response

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enforcement mechanism mechanism mechanism gonna ‸ be twofold. One is gonna ‸ be a, you know, if this council decides to require homeowners to pay the difference, then you got a cost financing enforcement issue. ‸ then the other enforcement issue of course is, requiring the property owners to actually do, the capital work on their own property required to hook up so I mean those two issues I will be happy to look

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that 3 million that I estimated yeah so we have to get a grant for the private side right and some will go high some will ‸ go long

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we do

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well that's why I said what your estimate was and they had it checked out it was half of what you asked right and I know that was two years ago.

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I get

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it goes

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long,

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‸ We don't need it, right? That's the ultimate question.

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‸ Well, then we look again back into the what we can get at which we're gonna ‸ find out

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I'm

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willing to table it yes sir thank you very much I ‸ agree with what you said yeah

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‸ No,

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ma'am. So, so you're gonna ‸ amend your motion to table this item? Yes. Again, for additional future information that will be applicable to septic to sewer conversion.

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the answers that were requested right

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yes okay and

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but

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if the answer comes back and it's still the same. Booyah. Okay. We have a motion on the floor. Just gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying hi all right nana's eyes have a unanimous just the fact finding information correct correct all right okay you may come

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of the meeting uh

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um these are the reports from staff um I think you guys previously announced this out this I don't recall that this is our first meeting back from the CRA conference ‸ said but again just acknowledging that we did win an award for our for our ‸ our affordable housing project over in the

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again as we do each year it is a cocoa versus a South cocoa ie

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in our in our annual food drive I think we are winners the last two out of the three years or maybe three years in a row and so that collection event happens at uh the Walmart on Monday November 25th from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. and again that's in support of the annual competition that benefits the ‸ sharing center for the food drive competition between cocoa and Rockledge

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thank you very much all right

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Odds for evens. We'll just

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start it

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fresh and go uh ‸ Okay, which uh ‸ would like to go first?

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four. It doesn't matter. That's why

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odd numbers.

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He knows you all ‸ just trying to make

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do not. Okay,

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all right. So

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to go? ‸ Okay, I'm gonna i'm gonna be quick because

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However, uh I will have stuff for the next meeting, but I did have the honor of um judging

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And, boy,

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and that was hard to do because they're all so cute. You know, you want to give them all a prize. So, uh but it was an honor to do that. And um so I was glad, you know, to be asked to do that. And uh I've attended all kinds of things, and but I will get into all that next week because I'm short on sleep at the

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just got a couple things. All right. This was uh this past Saturday. uh The youth football team that I coached they won the Super Bowl uh championship. um

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in the city of Coco. um And

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tough game, but we end up winning 41 26.

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oh good

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um this was at our cra conference um

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along with council members as well along and Mr. Brown. uh As you're aware, ‸ winner of the um um Housing Initiative Award, um and that's for the Michael C. Blake subdivision.

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I need a copy of that picture. because i get it to you. Thank you.

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No problem. You

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must have talked to Larry today because I got that ‸ Yeah,

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he sent it to me.

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website on Facebook, and I cannot forget the name of it, but I just came across it, and they

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were

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talking about

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And I think they're they're based out of somewhere out of state, um but it was kind of neat that I kind of ran across it, but it just shows how a small town is uh on the lips of a

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took them down to uh Miami Dolphin game, and we all took the uh bright line uh from Orlando. And uh it was neat for the kids five and six years old to um

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But um but it was a good thing just for them to ride the train and all of that stuff. So um November

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to do something after the election um and i in my district, but also um for other council members to come as well, if they had anything to share with the community. um Only people would probably have there is uh law enforcement, code enforcement, um solid waste, which would be public works, um at the Family Promise building, uh which is the old fire station

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Street uh in coco and that'll be

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And um that was it. Good.

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‸ just

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keep it moving in order and i'll step in now for district two

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so the first thing i wanted to do is uh if the council wasn't aware uh i think it was last week we lost uh coco highs

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um don't know the details. It was sudden caught everyone off guard. um I just was with him at the game,

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that following week. So that was a huge loss, uh not only for the students at

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for the city of

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because he was a huge advocate. um he was trying to push forward a lot of positive things for

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high and uh hopefully the school continue to push those uh initiatives that he had.

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and his family. um also, I wanted to put this in the air now. It's something I'm going to be looking for uh at the beginning of next year and I'm bringing it up now because I think it may take some coordination for it. But, um as we talk about our vision and uh accomplishes some of our initiatives for the city next year, um I would like to coordinate, um some type of event for the council. I don't know if you have to put us all in different vehicles and we each ride with the city staff, ‸ if we could be uh put in the same van, but i would like for us to take a tour around the whole city all 15.4 miles of the city of coco

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um Everybody takes ‸ take notes. and We bring it back when we uh have our meeting, um ‸ you know when we want to make our improvements, what our uh our goals are. um I think that's the only way we're going to really get a fair assessment of what needs to be done in the city if we're all putting eyes on it at the same time.

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but somehow I'm sure we have a great staff that can coordinate that. And uh so, like I said, I'm putting it out in the air now because I ‸ really want it want it to happen at the beginning of the year before we even get into budget talk, anything like that. So, um

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that's a great idea

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other than that, that's all I have for District

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at this time.

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all in it?

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have to leave, so um and you have to wear a Santa hat. Just

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this one. Well,

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fire truck.

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District

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Okay. I'm sure you could draw the stick. No, I can't. No, no. My husband tried to teach me. It was not pretty.

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We'll make

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I have a big red truck that

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Diesel, yep.

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‸ clutch up.

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Okay, well, thank you. i I thought when I saw that about the parade, I said, oh I need to ask about that. Okay, go

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was gonna ‸ say, I'm just to add a fact to our last conversation, the last item. And that fact is that many municipalities have gone after this money, have had money, have gotten matching grants from the state. And citizens, not one citizen has had to pay yet. now That's just a fact. uh

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is based on the amount of nitrogen that is prevented from going into the lagoon. That is in the language of the referendum. okay um And it's a fact that there are lots of contingencies available. okay um district

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And there was, but it was really unsuccessful because it was impossible to communicate in that particular facility. um It was not set up for facilitating a meeting like that. And so these are tentative dates, but um we're going to do

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staff schedule. It's going to be in a facility where it can actually be facilitated. We had over

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attendees and there is a lot of interest. So you have to be in a place where the meeting can't be taken over and where people that are there to genuinely listen have the opportunity to do so and ask questions. So, um oh so I know that next year we will do it in the Florida Solar Energy Center, which has great facility for that, but attracts a different kind of audience. And that's why I've been playing with the different facilities because it seems like I get different people according to where I am.

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‸ following that event on the 26th, 60 people showed up for the Wildlife

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Day. So that was great. And they're in the midst of a fundraising drive right now. So it's really happy to get the word out for them. We had flute players, uh Native Plant Society ‸ was there, um a lot to appreciate in the

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And this was actually, this is two months old, that figure. So, I'm not sure what it is now, but they've had almost 4 000 visitors. Yeah. And they have big groups coming in. on the left hand side Yeah. Yep. and um anyway, so, and that's without any kind of publicity, really. That's without having any sort of ability to capture visitors names and addresses to be able to market to them. So, if we had, you know, even uh mildly, even a mild effort to uh promote it would uh increase those numbers, I'm sure. And then lastly, last week, uh the mayor and I went to the Florida League of Cities Legislative Committees, and I am on the Utilities and Natural Resources Committee. the uh probably This is likely, we we chose two different issues, then in December we'll choose one issue, but I'm sure this is the one that we will land on. um the This will, um this legislation will probably,

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been coming up every year, every couple of years, but this time the uh the folks that we're actually pushing against it are no longer in office. So um we expect it will have legs. I don't think it's a threat to

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per se, because, I mean,

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problem is where, you

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couple utilities in the state that are doing that. We don't have a completely accurate inventory, but, um you know, it's really driven because,

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And, um so, you know, they're in that bullseye, and targets for this sort of thing. And

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affected by that. So, uh we will, it was this issue, it's a one water issue, and then

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be the primary

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from different committees, they select five top ones.

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Correct. yeah

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And that's what we lobby with when we go to, the

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um well, let me just go back to this and say there's so many utility issues. The one we discussed tonight, the lead and copper rule, the, uh you know, the water issues. We have the storm water issues. um we have lots of things coming up. And we no longer have an operating utilities advisory board. It was allowed to sunset just by not meeting. I would like to see it. We never, as a council, we did not make the policy decision to get rid of the committee. And there is no other time where we have needed it more than now. ‸ I would like to see a concerted effort to put that committee together. Because it gives us additional eyes on the issues. It gives us, a additional, another place where questions can be asked and the public can learn about it. And um so anyway, that's what do I need to make a motion?

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that the city manager has made it so clear to me that unless there's a motion that represents the council, which is where the power

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why would I do I need a motion, though? Because

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I don't like doing business like that. ‸ I'm

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not talking about

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Do I need a motion to get that committee operating again? We never put it down.

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okay The

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utilities advisory board, which I served on since 2014. And it just expired because the members, that there was not called to meet. i was meeting quarterly. And um the members uh terms expired.

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I didn't know there was.

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a year?

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once No,

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they met quarterly. And so if there was a rate increase, um those were discussed in front of that body.

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Well, if it wasn't allowed to, I mean,

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wouldn't you just put out that like all the other vacancies?

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we do that? Will it be, will it meet?

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This is why I say I need motions to get things done.

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okay but I need we need to recruit members so that means it goes on the list to recruit members I would like I would hope that we all understand the importance of the issues and that we looked to recruit members to serve on that board so that it's reflective of the entire city okay so I can expect then that it will be on the next, it will be on social media, we'll start recruiting that way.

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and that committee has changed over time there

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number of revisions. That committee consists of, there may be some public members there, but there's also members from county staff city staff and so yeah I'm ‸ not ‸ county staff and city staff sitting in a committee talking about our rates, is ‸ was not the goal of there. So let me let me give you a report on on that committee and the committee doesn't

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sunset because terms expire I don't you know I don't think that it prescribed regular meetings I think the meetings were as necessary or as called by the council or by the manager. And so, just let me give you staff perspective on that. ‸ not saying that the committee doesn't exist,

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need to exist there, but let me update you on the committee

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okay that would be great I have attended those meetings since 2014 and yes we have county staff there, but

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this consult Okay. the reason this comes up now is because throughout these discussions, one of the issue that came up time and time, again and again, in our two-hour discussion last week with other council members from across the state was the whole, what was

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we that there is no transparency in terms of rates and there's no reach out there's no reaching out and

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I just think that creating more transparency is going to be a good thing for our utility as well as talking about these really complicated issues. ‸ yeah that's it

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well you've seen my photo I just wanted everyone to see that at the FRA we had a great time there

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and I just want to say kudos to everyone that attended and took the photo because that was the pinnacle point of the overall event to me, to be recognized by your peers and have that photo up. It's imperative that we, uh even my grandmother would tell you, a poor frog would praise his own

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And if we don't acknowledge the men and women that volunteer their time there, and you, and they go that extra mile I think we should recognize them and acknowledge them like I say Larry from the

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participated with us at the photo walk tour as well

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that's uh this coming Friday at 7 p.m what uh beautiful Dick Blake Stadium yes sir uh and the track is by James Folston and eventually I'm assuming um uh coach Snyder he gets him another state championship coat uh

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parents talked to me about uh Mr. City Manager and and Mrs. Morgan as well um about some crosswalks near the school the elementary schools and I'm sure we'll talk about that for the Cambridge location

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fund of transferring funds from one um uh portion or agency to another

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budget item whatever you want to call it homeowners ‸ insurance and also I want to talk to you about something very important which is uh sovereign immunity that's where we have to provide a certain um financial obligation from the city to protect our interests And that can be a a healthy, healthy feat. And

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the popular meaning of sovereign immunity,

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meaning municipalities as well and this is house bill 619 I think if I'm not mistaken And it's coming back, ladies and gentlemen. homeowners insurance, get ready. to get ready to escalate.

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because that's just the way of the world right now absolutely um last but not least I want to say thank you for the improvements uh Mr. City Manager and Mrs. Morgan for Leon and Jewel Collins Museum um the kids are proud of the improvements I saw

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but more so than anything else uh to God be the glory uh for our victory um this past November the 5th uh secondly I want

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ballot it was clear and concise and you you you know the area of victory and last but not least I want to say thank you to the green and white machine because we do things decent and in order and I'm a firm believer in that and all the unions that supported our campaign from from

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to real estate which I'm very proud of too as well first time ever in my 17 year history. And that goes to show you we're moving in the right direction. And ladies and gentlemen, rest assured, we're going to get that contract or that grant from the various organizations, federal agencies, so that

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It's just like the

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The

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last one to let you down and the last one to throw dirt in your face so I'm a firm believer in that and I believe in staff I believe in council I believe in city manager the city attorney and all the great citizens of COCO

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near and dear to our heart a happy early thanksgiving chair and it takes a motion to adjourn

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I did real quick. uh Did everybody get their invitation to the realtor association for lunch next

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‸ You would have gotten

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oh okay. Yeah. oh me too. My phone. Yeah. Okay. It's been,

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at 11 30 at the. Space Coast Association of Realtors. And also, uh what do we need to do for the 25th when we the three of us get sworn in?

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Talk to Monica. She'll she'll break in as city manager.

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I got a lot of people coming. I just didn't know if there was a marine act Yes. Yeah. Same reenactment. You know, i they said sometimes there's refreshments. Do we need to provide refreshments? No, no. They'll take care of

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all that. City. I don't know. I'm asking. Ma'am,

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all in favor but say hi hi much love

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