And then also Pastor Roger

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Please, ma'ams and sirs. Would everyone stand, please, ma'ams and sirs.

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we need some prayers from heaven. So come on with it, gentlemen, please.

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Thank you, Mayor. Yes, sir.

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this place, in this place that's been set aside for the good work of the city of Cocoa.

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Yes.

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Father, we honor you in this house. We honor you in this city. And at the bidding of our own mayor,

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that we would always fear you, Father, and be accountable to you first and foremost in this city. We declare that tonight, that we love you. And we thank you for your guiding hand in the great city of Cocoa, Florida. Father, we pray not only for the mayor and

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all of the council. Yes. We pray for all the city officials, those in management, every department. We pray your hand of blessing would be upon them, especially as we head into this holiday season, Father. May we just live with a grateful and thankful heart, Father, for the goodness and the greatness of God in our lives and in this city. Father, we do pray for our state. We pray for our country. Yes. We

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your guiding hand upon all who lead us, that they would fear you and they would do right by people. Father, we are honored to be citizens of Cocoa, Florida. We thank you for the goodness that is here and the great people that desire to lead it well. We ask all this in the power of Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen. Amen. All right.

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Cocoa,

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He used to wrestle many years ago when I even had hair. So we're just going to chuckle at that just a small smidge. We both had hair. Okay, sir. Yes.

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All right. Let us pray. Well, Father, we just give you thanks today for this gathering, for this time. Thank you that you brought us all here. And let this not be for naught, but for a purpose and a reason in which you have designed. And I thank you for, we're just praying for Cocoa High School.

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Yes. It

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was a good school for us when we went there. I just pray for the teachers and educators, the students, that you would keep them safe, Father, and keep their focus where it needs to be. And just protect those tigers and keep them. Let them, and not only emphasize tiger pride, but just have a pride in themselves and just learn to love you. And if I can, Father, the last thing, this city of Cocoa, which I grew up in, in my prayers, I call it the city of the gospel. Let it be so.

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In the name of Jesus and Yeshua HaMashiach, we pray. Amen.

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Amen. ‸ Yes, sir. Amen. Amen. Okay, notes from the North Pole.

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I pledge

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allegiance

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to the flag of the United

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States

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seated. Please, ma'am, police service, make sure you secure your cell phones.

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roll call?

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Mayor Blake. Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Hearn.

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Present.

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There you

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go.

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Thank you. I'm present. Councilmember Goins.

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Here.

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Councilmember Koss. Here. City Attorney Garganese. Here. City Manager Witten. Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Proceeding on with the various items for tonight, under item number 2-1, regular meeting of November the 14th, 2023, what are the wishes of Council? Motion to approve. We have a motion

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Second.

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going to call the question, all in favor, by saying aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Moving on to item number 2-2, regular meeting of September the 12th, 2023, regular meeting of September the 26th, 2023. What are the wishes of Council?

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Motion to approve with amendment to page 3 and 4. Page 3, the very last sentence reads, the

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the park. That should actually be the city and county has allocated $1.4 million.

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Second change will be to the motion itself.

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verbatim. I said, I make a motion to find $1,000 toward the port-a-potty to resolve the public health

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So the way it's written, it ‸ said from the sustainability fund. That was brought up earlier by Councilman Dial, but was not part of my motion. If we need to identify

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a part of ‸ the payment for Orange County Utilities easement. So it could come out of that, but I'm sure there's... Okay. Well then, I'm sure that we

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issue. Pardon me?

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Okay,

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great. Great. So if we can just change the minutes to reflect that and make a motion to approve with those changes.

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There's a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Costs to amend the minutes for September the 12th

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looking for a second. Second.

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Do we have any questions?

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All

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favor, but saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any names?

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have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number

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proclaiming the city's support for its sister city, Bet Shemesh, Israel. And sometimes if

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really from the deep south, someone

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but no matter how you say it, we still love it. Can I get

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Amen. All right. Can everyone,

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would you come down forward? I'm asking Mr. Beringer, the rookie in the group, to

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proclamation for support of our sister city and the executive staff members. And tell you what, everybody come on down and be a part of this too as well.

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There's always room at the top. One is a lonely number. come on please I took a bath I brushed my teeth I combed my hair come on ‸ Yeah. Okay. Here we go. We're gonna ‸ make it simple for you. Would everyone stand in front of me right here on this side facing me there you

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go Give us a space. okay

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come on come on come

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there we go all right

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turn around all right

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that's all right

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relationship with Bet Shemesh Israel in 2007, and whereas the city of Coco has worked closely with the sister city program to promote mutual understanding, education, and goodwill through citizen diplomacy,

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Israel is a city that holds a special place in our hearts due to its rich history, vibrant culture, and unwavering commitment to peace, prosperity, and unity.

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and whereas we are committed to expressing our solidarity with Bet Shemesh Israel, its residents, and

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pursuit of a peaceful and prosperous future. And now, therefore,

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Michael c. Blake

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on behalf of the city

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City of

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unwavering support for Bet Shemesh Israel and extends our warmest wishes for the well-being, prosperity, and harmony of its community. signed

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by all means proclamation to you Thank you very much. And thank you for all of ‸ your work.

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i love to see your smiles here. If you're happy and you know it's like me

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thank you thank you sir there

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you go

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All right. Let me uh let me uh continue just for a second. um

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City

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She's just installed this past month. We want you to know who she is. ‸ want you to see her face. And

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past presidents here. There are people who have been involved for over 15 and

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that we could all be here, but more honored that ‸ our city would make the proclamation that it just did, especially in this time of crisis. And so on behalf of

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Shemesh, I read to you from

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in the city of

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Shemesh. He's also over tourism, foreign relations, and the environment. And he wrote on behalf of Mayor Eliza Block just today.

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to read it to you right now. He says,

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to peaceful times when we can once again return to goodwill visits to each

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representation. But let us also say how much we once again appreciate the city of

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standing up, standing out, and ‸ being supportive, not only of Israel at this time, but long standing years and years ago. And so it's a deep, deep relationship of love and trust that we have between our communities, and we look forward to great days ahead.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Thank you, yes, sir.

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‸ There's nothing like friendship, partnership, and the love ship we have

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Come on up. Yeah, yeah,

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we

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need matthew ‸ come

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on matthew

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yes sir

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mayor

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you guys

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guys

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you very much. Love

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Thank you.

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Hey!

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We're

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Who's going to be first?

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‸ So, just before I start, let me most humbly apologize to anybody that actually has poetic or rhyming skills.

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Because I

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do not. Alright.

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‸ Okay.

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Check, check, check. Is that green light on? The green light's on.

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Okay. Check. Just give me one second. The door closed, please, Ms. Kirkpatrick.

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I'll just speak really loudly. They're almost out.

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Thank you, hot cocoa.

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Is that why you make me?

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‸ Go ahead,

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I'm sorry.

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Go ahead, ma'am.

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All right.

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your main street is preparing for a holiday throwdown.

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where you can sip and stroll while shopping small. Oh,

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okay.

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‸ If music's your thing and evening's your time,

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promenade will suit you just fine.

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the port of Cocoa with boats parading by with their bows all aglow.

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pedaling through the streets. You might even see Santa. ‸ Always a treat. There

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show us.

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Throw

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down. Whomp, womp,

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the horn. Go ahead, ma'am.

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If that weren't enough, there's still so much more. There's plays and ballets, caroling and parades, tree lighting and movie viewing, pub crawls and Santa paws. Hey!

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fam!

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Alright! ‸ So, as you can see, if you didn't already know, there's no place like Cocoa Village for the holidays, even though we'll never have snow.

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to get them down, brother! Hey! We

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can have tickets for

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We're letting us come. We hope to see everybody at the festivities. Absolutely, yes ma'am. We're

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getting home on the phone,

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so starting next weekend. So come on, come on, come on.

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Thank you again. We appreciate your presentation. I hope you

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stand again.

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Job well known. That takes courage.

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You

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know what I'm saying? Courage.

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And commitment. So thank you for representing. And serious rising skills.

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And we thank you.

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Yes, it is. You clearly conveyed your thoughts, concisely and to the point. Can

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I ask?

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Do you light on? Okay, go

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ahead.

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The Santa Stumble Pub Crawl. That sounds new. What is that about?

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Mad Hatter. Yes. So madhatterpromotions.com is, but he always does the Krampus pub crawl. It's a lot of fun, but it gets a little crazy. Okay. It's not our event, but it's fun. Anybody else want

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know anything else?

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Thank you. How

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about those cowboys?

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How about them cowboys?

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Oh,

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yeah. Go fans. Go fans. Yes, ma'am.

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Okay.

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Thank you. Let's give them a round of applause, please, again. Yes, the historic Cocoa Village, Main Street.

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They did

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the

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Hot

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cocoa holidays. Hot

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cocoa.

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Nothing

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like having a little

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cocoa, hot chocolate in your life. Okay.

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delegations. Please be mindful. You have three minutes to expound and elaborate about your concerns. State your name for us, please. And first on the list will be Alex. Oh, excuse me. Alec Greenwood. Even though it's Alex, but we know the real big.

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Just

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like Mike and Michael. Yes, sir. Thank you very much for giving me a few moments to present some clarification to the mayor and the rest of the council. There's some misinformation that was presented at a recent neighborhood meeting that I wanted to correct. You also have in front of you a copy of my resume. So there'd be no question about my level of ‸ experience because that was brought up as a reason to ask for a revote whenever the vacancy came up for the planning and zoning board. And I also want to apologize that a council member asked for it to be reviewed again and wanting to see if it could be a revote on it based on that experience. The other thing I'd like to correct is it's insinuating that I'm in a lawsuit with the city and I highly recommend that that council person start talking to the city manager.

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there's a lawsuit that I'm creating against the city. The only other thing is I really don't understand why a neighborhood meeting would involve my project that's not even in your district.

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continual positive positions that this board is going to be able to continue to do even though there's been negative issues like for example what I mentioned today even though there was a lot more. Thank you.

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Thank you very much sir. Councilwoman calls.

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Yes, since that community meeting was obviously the district for town hall and it was a citizen that asked about the property and my response was we're not in a position to talk about that.

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What?

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Anyway,

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yeah, false accusations.

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Okay. Next on the list. This is the reason for the season. Let's be, we just had a cheerful presentation for Christmas, man.

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Ladies and gentlemen. Next, the man on the ship. Once again, Mr. Brad Whitmore, would you please come forward, sir?

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Okay. I see it over there. Okay. Yes,

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Go ahead, my friend.

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Brad Whitmore, [address], HCVMS. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members, staff. I want to talk about a couple of waterfront things going on. We are so fortunate to have the Atlanta T-Doc still functional. It's seeing a lot of service. Cocoa Basin is getting more activity as the season moves along. The fall southbound migration down the ICW is in full swing. I ‸ have known for a while that we had a shortage of available places to tie dinghies up

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The space is there, but there's not proper tie-ups.

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and with using the existing spacing, we could easily have another five. And this might not seem like a big deal, but if you're coming in off of a boat and a dinghy and you don't have a good place to tie it up to, and you end up tying up to one of the cement pilings that holds the dock, that's not ideal because the lines get pinched in the rollers, etc., etc. But, taken to point, what really got me focused on this was, I guess it was last night, maybe the night before, there were a couple of big motor yachts that had anchored in our basin, about 60-foot, I'd say probably Katie Krogan's if I had to guess. The people came in off of those, came to the T-Doc,

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and none were available.

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So, we could remedy this situation very simply by adding four or five cleats, anyway. These are, you get specific ones that are made for the purpose of dinghies, so you can pass a security chain through them. They're not expensive, 20, 25 bucks, and you put them in with a couple of lag bolts. So, I would like to request that the city address that as soon as they can, because right now, season is building. It's going to be even more traffic than there is now, and

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be a very nice, inexpensive addition to make our waterfront more attractive to the transiting boaters that we hope to bring in off of their big boats to spend lots of money. That being said, ‸ update on vessels. You probably already know we had removed the sailboat from over there on the north shoreline. We had the sailboat removed from under the overlook on the walkway. ‸ Last week, there was a barge and a crane looking for a boat that

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been authorized to find. I knew where it was. I pointed it out. I had to leave. They said, thank you very much. They got a return on it and said, we're waiting for the divers. We'll get it. We'll be out of here. I don't know if they got it or not. I believe they did. I know it's been hit once by a large sailing vessel, so it's the ‸ really ‸ hazardous ones are the ones you can't see that are submerged. We've got two others out there that fit that category and a couple others that have mass sticking above the water. So we're underway with that project. It's nothing that we're immediately involved in in terms of money or effort. However, it sure makes our waterfront better. Thank you very much. Three, two, one, zero.

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‸ Happy Thanksgiving, sir.

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Thanksgiving, everyone. ‸ Thank you. Thank you.

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issue, maybe, you all, I'm sure, will figure out a way to talk about those pleats. Am

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saying that?

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‸ I'll be happy to throw in my two cents worth if anybody wants to contact me.

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Yes, that's correct.

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Okay. Now, this is delegation. Do you want to speak about your two particular items, sir, or would you rather speak now?

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me, but I guess so I don't really have prepared notes or anything. But I can talk if you want me to about it.

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Why don't you wait until your item, I'm just making a suggestion, and I'm sure council would also advise you I'll let them speak independently. But when your particular item come up, we'll address it and we'll call you up unless, you know, give you the opportunity to, opportunity to speak on your particular item.

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you. All right, sir. All right. This concludes this portion of delegations and we will move on to the consent agenda item. What are the wishes of council? Motion to approve. We have a motion

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Second. We have a second by Councilwoman Cost. Chair's going to call the question.

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in favor by saying aye.

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And then

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This is the second reading for

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Expedited State Review Comprehensive Plan. ‸ takes amendment to expand a very limited geographic area by which vertical mixed use projects may be built at 125

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parcel of city owned land

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final reading of ordinance 17-2023. This is a proposed amendment to the city's comprehensive plan. An ordinance of the City Council of the City of

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Florida. Adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan text amendment amending a policy in the future land use element authorizing the City Council to approve by development agreement residential densities of up to 125 dwelling units per acre related to vertical mixed-use projects expanding the very limited geographical area to which the policy applies to include a parcel of city-owned land generally located southwest of the intersection of

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Jones Drive and Florida Avenue. And which is more particularly described herein by parcel information and

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is designated mixed-use future land use on the future land use map and which is designated south end SE sub district with a commercial mixed-use large CL building type on the

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waterfront overlay district regulating plan requiring a development agreement by the City Council to approve such projects on such ‸ real property under certain terms and conditions deemed necessary and acceptable to the City Council for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the comprehensive plan separability and an effective date and legal status of the plan amendment. This is also a

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So as you ‸ as the City Attorney noted over the last

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created multiple policies to ensure that the

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area are available. um with With that being said, to create those additional opportunities, the city did adopt some policies to allow for vertical mixed-use

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develop densities of up to 125 dwelling units an acre, subject to and conditioned upon a development agreement that is approved at the discretion of the city council. uh

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and it is part of the regulating

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South End sub district The

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redevelopment plan identifies 915 Florida Avenue as one of the two high priority

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mixed-use development ‸ project sites within the

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Community redevelopment area, and

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by expanding the very limited geographical area where these densities of up to 125 dwelling units an acre may be developed via a developer's agreement to include this subject property.

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and uh staff recommends approval. ‸ Thank

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you. uh Let me open it up to the council uh

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any questions.

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Are we putting out for RFP? Are we selling it? What is the disposition of the property?

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Eventually, we're going to put it out for RFP.

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of the land within that RFP. That's how it was structured the last time.

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The incentive would be, or is the incentive the density that we're proposing here? I

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think it's the density, the building type. or the incentives? ‸ what

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this does is maximize the profitability of the land. Is that right?

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that one more time.

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So, well I'm trying to figure out what, you know, what the real goal is. Because

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as it says, it's uh 30 developing dwelling units in an acre. And it's it's five stories.

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and take it to 104 feet. So, what is driving that is because it says that we attempted to facilitate the redevelopment through prior requests, but I'm only aware of the one. And that was a ‸ situation under our former city manager and, you know, quite a few years ago now when development was not, there wasn't a lot of development going on. And we had and what ended up being mostly a gentleman's agreement that didn't really work out. um

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RFP that was, uh awarded, um previously.

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is, is that the steps to, to, uh increase the density and the building and change the building, uh type, uh would have to come after the RFP. So, so that was a little bit ‸ speculative. This, you know,

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it's a, it's an economic development catalyst program. And so the whole goal of this is to increase economic activity in the village, to put more, uh heads and beds, to put more feet in the village, to drive economic development within the, uh within the village. And so that's the density change. That's the building use change, uh the goal of

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have any, uh input on this item? You have, uh three minutes to speak.

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none. We close it to the public and bring it back to the council. uh what is, wishes of the council?

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motion to approve

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Okay. We can discuss it, I guess, after.

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Yeah. Second with discussion. Councilwoman

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Yeah. So, um well, this is kind of groundhog day because we've been here before. This ‸ was first brought before us a year ago.

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staff driven again, it's to increase ‸ I guess, to maximize the profitability of the land. from my perspective,

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the

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village there

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In this case, as I've mentioned before,

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Although I did verify last night that the development going up in Rockledge that butts up next to it is 14 dwelling units per acre. That's the 296 apartments and it only goes three stories. So you have three stories on one side, then you have single family homes on the other with the consent to Cree area. So it becomes an issue of scale. And because, you know, we did just, we passed this piece a year ago for 430 Brevard, it feels like, and we talked at that time

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So,

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anyway, I oppose this and I do so on two points from our

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be concerned with the fact that this, if all the development were to take place, that we're going to have problems with our level of service for wastewater for sewerage. And that is on page 10. You can find that. um

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which under sanitary sewer

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improvements of residential institutional office commercial and industrial uses that increase the demand on public infrastructure and require permitting shall comply with the

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um in the staff presentation you know the plan is that if we get to that point, then we would have to go through, you know, they do some analysis and we

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We would ask them to pay for the upgrades.

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given the way other developments are going and the services we're providing. And especially when we've already determined that we want this density for us to ask them to do the sewerage upgrades. I think they would have

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use

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The city shall protect and buffer residential areas in the Cocoa downtown redevelopment area from uses of high density or intensity. And that says shell So,

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rest with that.

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Thank you, ma'am. um only, only thing I, I would say,

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we, we understand

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outside of the village. um and ‸ you made that statement several times as well. um ‸ I'm speaking to people who live right now in consent decree. There's not a concern of theirs. um they, ‸ know more than likely, uh property values will rise. um and ‸ in turn, uh could be a positive thing for that part of the community as well. uh ‸ we know we have, we have the water and sewer, maybe some impacts, but like our water sewer department does, we, uh we modify. And we, and we do what we need to do, um to make sure that, um the impacts are minimal. So that, that's, that's just my, my point on it. um I just want to see something there. I knew what it was when it was there. uh uh it was an old trailer park, uh drug infested trailer park. And to, to see something there positive

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something that's going to be attractive to a developer. I know I hear people say the last few months, you know, you don't care about developers, but at the same time without developers who want to build a

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‸ motion on the table. I

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could.

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like to respond. just to say that I'm not against development there. I would love to see development there. Appropriate development. um the same goes for bank of America.

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development there. We know that something being there is going to be better than the blight that exists right now.

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Of course.

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So the issue becomes one of creating our sense of place, our place making our the character of our city. And I think

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Village, and this is actually part of the village overlay, is really special. And that's why I have consistently fought so hard to try to maintain those features, those character features, but I think make it a historic village. And as I've said before, the historic village, there

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this isn't going to be an awful thing if it

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but we're at a point, we're deciding the future. ‸ So those are the sort of things I'm going to keep an eye on.

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and and thank you, Member

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for, you know, directing comments specifically to our comprehensive plan in conjunction with the projected project. uh You know, there's some balance in there so i i appreciate that you know right below

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about infill development, talking about blight, areas of transition.

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quite some time there, and that even while not in the city of

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uh

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uh And from an environmental sustainability plan, equally, and I appreciate your input with that, that it's almost sometimes conflicting because uh it calls for asking for the um adherence to, I think, characteristics that we've come to love. But equally, when we talk about environmentally up, uh you know,

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that environmentally. That being said, I feel very confident that in this process, uh

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wherever

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it lands, uh before Council will be brought a development agreement, uh before anything gets done. of course And so when we talk about, you know,

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uh that there is, within that process, there are definitely callbacks

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as projects arrive, uh

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place of blight. So i I appreciate the insight and the reference to the comprehensive plan. uh But the the process of development agreements, uh I feel very comfortable being able to negotiate some of those things as a part of that.

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sir. Thank you.

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uh uh council council uh well Deputy Mayor

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I said, we have the controls in place for anybody that comes before us with a development agreement. So I'm confident in voting yes for this project.

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Thank you, sir.

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to hear everybody speak to, you know, really looking at that development plan when we get it. I'm just coming from a place where having been here five years, we've never pushed back. So I'm glad that, you know, everyone's speaking to that now, and I hope that, you know, should this

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it looks like it'll go one way, that we will take that seriously to maintain the character of our

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village.

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But

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I'm not sure. I think a minority. No, it's all

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right. I got you. It needs to

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be here because, as we know, you know, there are people that feel strongly about this.

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got you. All right. We'll call the question. All in favor, say aye. Aye. I think he said it. You did? Yes. Aye. ‸ Aye.

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All right. Motion passed.

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Just before you leave the item, I didn't want to interfere with the vote there. We did do a highest and best use, and that came back as multifamily. In terms of infrastructure, the Rockledge project required some sewer upgrades that, again, as a part of their development agreement, they put those costs on the developer. So that happens quite often. And, again, just to, again, reiterate that you don't get height and density as a right. It occurs through the development agreement, and Anthony, correct me if I'm wrong on that.

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development agreement. Again, you know, so whatever comes back, it'll be via a development agreement height and density.

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‸ Okay.

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Thanks, sir.

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2, consistent with Chapter 18 subdivision and Appendix A zoning of the city code with conditions stated,

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes,

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The subject property of Adamson Creek Phase 2 is located on the east side of Adamson Road and the south of the previously developed Adamson Creek subdivision, which is part of your location map in your exhibits. The phase will include 30 single-family homes on the single street and provide common recreational space amenities, including a walking path, stock stormwater pond, and a fishing platform and other space areas. On August 22nd, the city approved the preliminary subdivision for the Phase 2,

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a large-scale site plan. Phase 2 contains 79.13 acres overall with 14.39 acres of developable land and 64.74 acres of wetlands and uplands.

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open space, and it all will be maintained and controlled by the Adamson Creek Homeowners Association. The submitted final plan has been reviewed by the planning and zoning staff, the assistant city attorney, and Southern Surveying on behalf of the city for consistency with Chapter

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and with Appendix A zoning of the city code and found to be in substantial compliance. Minimum setbacks and distance separation between the structures will be addressed when the building permits are applied for. The

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surveyor has approved the preliminary plat as a final plat due to no changes proposed, and the applicant has provided bonds and construction cost estimates that have been reviewed by the city and approved by the city. Staff recommends

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following conditions. The final plat shall be recorded with the city

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of city council approval, and the developer shall provide a performance bond securing the completion of the common amenities as required by the City Code in a form acceptable to the city attorney prior to recording the plat.

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As there's a significant amount of wetland out there, just as a whole, from infrastructure, from our pump stations, from a flooding standpoint. So, let's say that wherever our 100-year floodplain is in relation to said development, wherever we're locating pump stations to accommodate those additional houses, would those pump stations be subject to being flooded out during a flood? Meaning, I've had where a low-lying area, after heavy rainfall plus hurricane, the pump stations themselves wind up getting out of whack.

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But, and just so that ‸ as folks that may be arriving to our city who are new, can have that both peace of mind that our infrastructure will be able to handle reasonably for ‸ going into a place that there's quite a bit of wetland, at least it kind of looks like it. So,

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and as part of that, I will defer to the ‸ utilities director and the acting public works director on those.

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Addie,

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regulations for building

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floodplains. So, they need to meet those before they receive that permit.

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Thank you tremendously. Thank you.

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terms of the floodplains? That area, ‸ is it low? I thought it was.

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Yes, I believe it is in a floodplain.

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Okay. Okay. Any other questions?

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For staff?

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council, and open to the individuals in the public. If you have any questions, please submit your card and state your name for us, please.

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please submit them now. Thank you.

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Good evening, Mayor and Council.

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We represent the applicant, Dior Horton. ‸ I can answer, actually, a little bit more about the floodplain. We did do an analysis, both with St. John's and ‸ with City Review, to make sure both that the development will not impact the floodplain, and that the floodplain will not impact the development. So that's ‸ been taken care of.

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as far as sewer, will discharge to an existing ‸ lift station, which is set above the floodplain elevation. So ‸ that's safe, and it'll be high and dry. Other than that, I'm happy to the community development director stole my thunder, so I'm happy to ‸ answer any questions you might have. Thanks.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Kenneth, sir. Anyone else in the audience? We believe in this project. I support this project. Let's move forward on this project. Chair would like to close this ‸ anyone else in the audience? Going once, going twice. Chair would like to close this portion of the public and return it to council. What are the wishes of

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council?

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Motion approved. We have a motion

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Second.

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Go ahead.

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Sure.

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We have a second on the floor by the chair.

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just

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going to call the question. All in favor saying aye.

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Aye. Aye.

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Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Hey. Congratulations, sir. That's a great win for the district. ‸ Yeah, absolutely.

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‸ Yeah,

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yeah. I know that's

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I was trying to

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wait on

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you.

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Every now and then, sir. When it's your area, we kind of hold off a little bit. So in case you want to chime in and make a motion.

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‸ My apologies. No, no.

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you're

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okay. I appreciate it. ‸ I'll give it the program.

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I paused. I paused for a minute.

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You

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good?

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It's all right. Thank you.

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You good, brother. Thank you.

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Now

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you know.

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was just power. And that you are.

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All right.

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Approve the current code enforcement lien for the property located at 411 Thomas Lane.

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enforcement board. I do not have a problem with this. I do have you here, Mr. Hanson. Would you come forward, please, sir? Is that your name for it, sir? Joel Hanson. Yes, sir. Do you want to say anything about the piece of property located on 411 Thomas Lane, Mr. Hanson,

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sir? Well, I just wanted to say that I put quite a bit of money into that property.

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I put over $100,000 in it trying to fix it up. Over the years, I ran into countless problems with contractors and property managers that don't get me appraised of the situation. Sometimes when I need to be appraised. I live in another state. My wife has Alzheimer's. I can't get out here as often as I want to, but I have gotten out here and I've tried.

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some of the problems were caused by some tenants that we had to kick out of the property because they were causing problems. But it all happened in kind of a small period of time. It's not representative of my overall efforts to manage that properly and property. And if ‸ the, uh, if you'd allow me to say it, one of the code enforcement officers said my property is probably the nicest one in the area now. So I finally got it to the point where I want it. But this first lien that we're talking about had to do with previous owner. He had a lien on the property and I bought it at the tax sale thinking that everything was settled at the tax sale and didn't know that that lien was still floating out there. And

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uh, compounding interest to, uh, to

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to an enormous level. And

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And so I'm just, yeah, you, if you guys are willing to reduce it to the cost of staff, I'd, I'd be greatly appreciative. And for the second one, I mean, it just happened in a short window of time that

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lead,

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And I tried to find out, but I just couldn't get the information from anyone.

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were facing, but then I had to bring a contractor in, which I was going to do anyways.

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And so I finally,

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finally done up and running and I'm just asking for, um,

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um,

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a reduction to staff. I think it's gotten, not from here, so I don't know your jargon, but I think it's called called reduction to staff

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on this property.

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And, um, that's, that's basically my story. If you have any questions,

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Yes.

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Services going out there, maintaining, having our officers keep proper and accurate documentation. Now, my thing is normally the code board, uh, gave you the opportunity. They reduced the lien considerably. I think as we say in the country, exponentially, sir. Yeah.

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but we will proceed in this order. I'm in favor of what the code board recommended.

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We will proceed in that order.

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Yeah. Let's grab that seat down there, Dennis. Hey,

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okay. Yeah. Kick him

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can you give us, uh, ‸ you don't have to be long, draw it out, but what's the, what's the, what's the backstory? Um, cause while he was talking, I see your head go back to, so that kind of

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my ears up.

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Well, the case that we're talking about now from 2012, um, the amount he didn't do his due diligence when he bought the property during a tax deed sale. So he purchased the property with the lien already intact. The lien had already been closed. It was a fixed lien. Um, he didn't know about that because he didn't do a title search and he didn't do his due diligence on the first case. So he actually was not the cause of the violation. He bought it as is that way.

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corrected after the purchase or did it, or did that violation say

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bought it 2012?

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How did he,

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no, no.

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Okay. Um, there was a code case, um, fine got put in place. Property came into compliance, fell out of tax deed sale. He bought it. So he had nothing to do with the first case at all, except buying the property with the lien with

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the lien attached to the address.

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code issue was cleared up. So, yeah, the code, the violation, ‸ so he purchased it, code issue gone. Yes.

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He said it was cited in 2012 and it came into compliance in 2013. He bought the property afterwards when it went into tax deed

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sales

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So that code lien was already in place, had already run. He bought it as is. Okay. He didn't come in and fix it. He didn't come in and comply. It was already done.

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again. It's the same issue on the next item as well.

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No, the next item, he owns the property at the time. It was

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And I would just like to mention too that we do, we do monthly inspections.

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where

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back in 2012. Once it went to code board, they didn't do as many inspections.

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inspections and ‸ the way we do things. Gotcha.

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Thank you. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. ‸ All

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right. Thank you. And ‸ so I'll start with staff and then I have questions for you, sir, as well. And on its face, I'm very concerned. So I'm hoping to gain better understanding. So first, when I looked at the property appraiser, the purchase looked like it was for about $12,000 or $14,000. Is that what was recorded?

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Yeah, roughly.

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So you were able to occur, gain possession of that house for $14,000, which is way below market value. So something in my eyes, just as a person would have gone, there must be something going on, right?

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Well,

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it

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was a bad economy.

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The city of Cocoa,

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mean, a lot of your properties were around selling. New ones were selling around $25,000, $30,000.

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was really a good deal, of course, but I didn't, I didn't see it as an indicator of another problem. I guess I just didn't, I just thought, you know, it was a tax lien sale.

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So,

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okay. ‸ And what was the, the, the, the lien against the property? What, what were the penalties associated to the property? What was the amount of that, that got missed? Meaning we bought the house, you bought the house, sir, or your investment group bought the house. So it was not you, it was your investment group, correct?

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Well, it was you, me and a partner.

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Correct. But, but it was done through the corporation. Right, right, right.

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Yes.

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Okay. Is the LLC, was the LLC the same LLC that was doing business with agents in Wyoming?

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Yes.

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Where,

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that LLC, was it active, and I'm coming back, sir. Was it active in minutes throughout this entire period, or was it administratively dissolved until recently?

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It was active throughout the entire period and then dissolved recently.

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So is it, so is it still an entity, or is it administratively dissolved? I, I think I saw in Wyoming it was dissolved, in Minneapolis, I, I was unclear.

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Yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're, I have somebody right now as we speak working on putting it in Minneapolis from Florida to here. So that's, that's where we're going.

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But is it dissolved in Minneapolis? Meaning, meaning, because there is a difference in acting as the individual, in my take, or acting as the agent of the corporation. And to my understanding, the corporation is who owns the house. So, with a corporation that was administratively dissolved, and legal, legal can help me out on this, but I don't know. That's what I'm trying to understand. Who

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the house. I am the owner of the LLC, and I am the, I am the corporation, basically. I mean, my name is on it, on the corporation, so.

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Right, but it's.

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Because

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they've always sent all the corporations mail to my house in Minneapolis, so I, I've always been the, the corporation.

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It will be.

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what

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it is, so the answer is no.

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The answer, yeah, the, well, the answer, I don't know. It could be. She might have gotten it through by now.

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No.

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Meaning, and I'm, I'm highly concerned because what I saw from a registry standpoint was, I saw something about this is in good, but we are in good standing. And my concern being is that

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So I'm,

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confused in that point. Okay.

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Meaning

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that, that there's somebody, and, and it's not to,

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defame,

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I'm just saying that the, the total amount is 120 something.

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Right?

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watched this take place for 10 years. And now we're negotiating with an entity that I don't know if it exists or not for the purpose of coming before the board to say, this is who we are when that is not the fact.

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taken away coming, claiming that we are X, but we are not.

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Well, can I prove that I'm the corporation?

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I would, I would

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absolutely welcome that. And it's, it's not, no harm, no foul. I just, you could understand how after 10 years there would be concern with this. And so back to my first question, sir, ‸ was there an amount that the original lien was for?

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Yeah.

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Correct.

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And, and, and that lien had occurred from a violations previously. So

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$150 a day for about 10 years.

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me that or it would have been done right away.

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I just didn't.

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But again, we go back

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Typically, I would say that a lawyer is, is one option.

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a thousand different ways to do that. But you as the investor are responsible to that in the state of Florida. I

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know quite a few investors that have bought tax liens, didn't do title searches and never had a situation like this come up. I would

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agree. I would agree with that. ‸ So, so, so the 125

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was

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attached prior. And then was there any attempt to resolve it over this period?

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I can't speak on it.

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Until when? When, when did you find out that there was a lien?

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three years ago.

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We're the ones that brought up the case and gave him all the paperwork. The reason why he purchased the house so cheap in 2012 is it sold at a tax deed auction.

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Right.

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So other people didn't have the same interest or, you know, what have you then. But.

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Okay.

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But if you would have done a title search or

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check

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the court records

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you

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called in, you would have known that there was a lien on

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the

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property.

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Correct. And the, and the assessed value from the Brevard County property appraiser now is.

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no other liens other than ‸ I think a few. My memory is not perfect, but

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contractor, not contractor, um,

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um,

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just utility

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lanes.

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And that's so, I mean, I don't know where you're asking me to search, but I, you know, you guys have a code enforcement division. We don't even have a Minneapolis. I didn't even know it existed until I, you know, a few years back, but I'm just saying that that's probably where the lien was. I don't think it was listed in with the city inspections where I tried to find it.

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the fact that I,

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an out of state property owner, because I don't know things that people that live here would probably know.

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just, I kind of operated under Minneapolis rules and not, I didn't know that you have a separate place where you're supposed to go find these

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kind

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of code liens.

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were just,

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but they're not, you know, I mean, I don't know why. Like, hey, when they want

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when they want to tax me, they know where I am. They send it right to my address. When they want, when they want, you know, and send me utility bills, they know where I am. When,

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But when it comes time to notifying me that there's this huge thing, growing, monster, growing into monster size, nobody told me. I'm just like the last person. There's

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administrative costs. That's where they make the recommendation to you. Then it comes to you for final approval and you can go with the recommendation of the code board. You can go to zero. You can go not at all, anywhere in between. It's completely up to council at that

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time. And let me clarify.

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you.

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the time, that second, ‸ those second problems, I did get three letters from code enforcement then. And I jumped every time I got them and resolved them. But the tenants kept coming after the fact.

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And that's when I ‸ finally met Officer Gonzalez and he told me about the liens.

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And what was the rationale for waiting this long to address that lien?

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Not knowing them, not knowing they existed.

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I thought you said you were informed maybe two years ago or something like this. Yeah,

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well, then ‸ I was already in the process. I mean, ‸ I tried to renovate these properties about three times. And, I mean, I was already in the process of trying to renovate it for about the third time when ‸ Officer Gonzalez told me this stuff.

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He took a couple, ‸ like a year or two to finish going through that property. And I don't know why it took him so long.

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But he did finally finish it. So that probably ate up a couple of years there.

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didn't understand ‸ what the lien actually was right away.

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months.

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Thank you.

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I just thought it was like a Minneapolis lien.

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He actually applied for a lien reduction quite a while ago. Okay. But he also started renovating the home without permits. So according to city code, we cannot bring a case before the board for reduction while there's still violations present on the property. So he had to go through an entire permit process, get that taken care of. Then when we finished processing his application, we discovered that he was three years behind on his taxes. ‸ And therefore,

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would not bring it to the board for that reason.

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had to pay his taxes first. That stretched out the time from when he first put the application in to when it actually went to the board.

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same instance? Because I thought in Wyoming there was a delinquency as well.

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No. I don't know of anything in Wyoming like that.

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Okay. All right.

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I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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money into the property. I started to run low in cash. And so then I was going to take out a loan to cover the taxes and that.

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‸ And

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I didn't realize that the taxes had to be paid before I could come before the code board. So once I found that out, I dug deep and paid the taxes. Okay.

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horse, but there is a, just for maybe council's information, there is a variance in the per diem rate from our, from the first item that we're discussing right now to the second. One is at a rate of 250 per day.

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where that came from?

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The code board has the right to charge somebody up to $250 a day.

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on ‸ that. We have a more regimented system in place now than we did then where we calculate our fines a little more manageable. But I don't know how bad the house looked in 2012. Usually that's what prompts the price of the lien is the gravity of the violation, how it affects the neighborhood, public safety, all that comes in.

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the ‸ maximum of $250 a day at that time. Our violation was for cars that were not registered and auto parts and stuff stored outside. So therefore it was not, the gravity of the violation was not as severe.

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And at this, at this point in time, are we currently at $50 a day? Is that our...

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Well, that case has been closed. All the cars have been moved. Everything's been cleaned up. So the fine is fixed. It becomes a fixed amount. ‸ There's no longer a daily fine attached to that. ‸ I'm

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apologize. Thank you.

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thank you, ma'am. ‸ I mean, if I was to show up to the code enforcement board today and they were to assess a per diem, is our per diem rate at 50 now? It

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depends on the violation. Okay. The

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violation

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is different. And once the board issues an order, that's the order.

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doesn't change. It can't change the actual daily fine amount. It's whatever the board... So

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that fine

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originated... Right from the very beginning.

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mean, right after I got the house, it was already started. So I hadn't had time to renovate the house. I mean, I just ‸ got it.

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on it, but we were fixing it. And so the lien was already in place. The lien I didn't know about was in place. So that $250 was based on the condition of the house when I first got it. And,

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you know...

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And thank you. And then for legal counsel, my only question, and, ‸ sir, ‸ I do not mean this to be disparagingly.

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agent representing a company for the purpose of reducing a financial obligation, but that entity doesn't exist...

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But I am the owner. Sir.

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Sir. But the entity doesn't exist. In some places, I think that would constitute fraud. Or is it just a humble mistake or error? So where are we at in the state of Florida with that?

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Well, it's not a

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Florida issue regarding a Minnesota LLC.

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can only speak to Florida. Sure. I'm not licensed to practice in Minnesota, but I would presume the laws are similar in that when there's an administrative dissolution of a corporation because they fail to file an annual report or failure to file,

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automatically by the state of Florida. Now, with that said, you know, the LLC or the corporation, they can reinstate the corporation by filing the past due annual report and paying the past due annual fees, and then the corporation gets reinstated. ‸ So, you know, to the extent that, you know, you have a problem with, you know, the fact that you do not have a Minneapolis LLC, as I understand it, in good standing,

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gentleman to have that LLC placed in good standing in Minnesota, because you could do that in Florida. So I'm presuming you can do it in Minnesota.

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in terms of agent representation, you know, you tend to look at the corporate structure, and then, you know, in Florida, you can search the corporate information to see whether or not an individual is identified as the president or a member of an LLC, so we can kind of do that due diligence as well.

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the registered member or president of the entity.

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And we did that, and he's not registered in the state of Florida. Well,

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that's the other aspect of it, because there's no notation in here about a rental property, and under Florida law, you know,

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‸ mean by foreign, a corporation ‸ outside of Florida can hold title to real property.

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of that property, I believe that foreign corporation also needs to register with the state of Florida.

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‸ Thank you, counsel. And so, ‸ ultimately, I think, one of the concerns that I have from a community standpoint is that at that time, folks that would choose to invest, that was, could be a very positive thing. But I also know that there have been significant amounts of investment where investments were weighed. It was cheaper to do business by just doing what you need to do to get a renter in.

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So, the depression of property values to the community is, in my take, what, and the blight or the conditions that are associated to or dangers that are added because of unpermitted work, failure to do due diligence on, right? And then we have a renter who, it appears, wasn't the greatest of renters, besides maybe sending rent. The community suffers. And I speak to this because

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And in my backyard, I'm telling you that my neighbor just pulled up an RV in the middle of the night and now has somebody on a quarter acre in an accessory dwelling butted up against my property. And to know that it might take 10 years to get that resolved, I got an issue with that.

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that my property abuts Brevard County. So, that's a Brevard County issue.

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Well, my property was renovated three times. Sir, sir. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was...

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‸ Thank you. So,

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Council,

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that is my concern. And in addition, I do not feel very confident that the ‸ good faith effort,

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‸ while there is an investment to that, you scoop the property for 14. So, you're 114 into it.

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for whatever. So,

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mean, good on you. I just wish the process would have been done correctly, and that the city of Cocoa would have been, I think, number one, addressed appropriately by meeting the obligation of the fine. And furthermore,

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Any other questions for staff? Councilor? I just had a statement. Yes, sir. Go ahead, sir.

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So, we

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a council, we discussed lately that we were, you know, cleaning up the blight

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we were going

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And ‸ I take it extra serious when we have investors that come from out of state.

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but to the property owner, if you were so to be granted a reduction in this law, in the lien, I would ask that you make sure you do your due diligence on who you rent your properties to, maintain your property to the best of the code. Because if this come before us again, I can guarantee you that there won't be any lien fee. So, that's all I wanted to say.

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Thank you very much, Deputy Mayor Hearn. Do we have any other questions for council? What are the wishes of council? Okay. You all scared? Okay. I will make the recommendation and the motion based on staff recommendation and the code board's recommendation that he be assessed $1,200 decimal point dollars and three cents as recommended by the code enforcement board. I think you learned your lesson, sir.

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our city. ‸ I

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hope to live here

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someday. Yes, sir. Look to your left. You see the man sitting on the end? Your left.

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left.

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Right ahead. Raise your hand, Dennis. That's the man you want to make sure you collaborate with and The other gentleman with the badge on.

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see to your other left? Okay.

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two. All right. Mr. Hanson, I have a motion on the floor.

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looking for a second.

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Second.

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yes, sir. We have a second by

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Discussion by, okay,

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and then Chair is going to call a question.

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why. You got it. And this one doesn't compare to the second one, but go ahead. Thank

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you.

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that at $250 a day, that ‸ is an instant amount of mobile amount for most. And I think that from a policy standpoint, at $50 a day, ‸ there's enough teeth in that ‸ to ‸ warrant financial movement from investors or individuals to address issues.

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to see if the Chair might make an amendment to reduce ‸ the total fee from the lien to be calculated at the $50 a day rate, meaning that we've, it was an assessed, ‸ basically

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divide it

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into a fifth is the short version. ‸ And the rationale is that that is our current, well, it could be an option for somebody who is in violation.

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That's your request. Yes, sir. Okay. I'm listening to you, sir. Okay. I will consider it. Thank you for your consideration, sir. And I think we'd have to be

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Thank you, sir.

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All right. What's the, what's the number, Mrs.

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Howell?

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A fifth of 125. I mean, it's approximately 20. We could

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just...

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But charging the $25,000. That's what he's saying. As his fine.

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Okay. So you're...

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So the math of it is it's 250 times the number of days equal to 125.

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Correct. Yes, sir.

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So you're saying the number of days times 50 would

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your recommendation for the fine amount.

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Correct. Which would have been the associated lien that was not noted because of the failure to do due diligence as an investor.

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What's the number of days?

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‸ It's a fifth. So it's approximately... Just make it an even amount.

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Make it ‸ an even amount at $25,000. It's close enough.

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I

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mean... Okay.

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let's say... Just keep in mind that this is...

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And this is a lien reduction request. The lien runs in favor of the City Council per stat clear Florida law. So the council can reduce the lien to whatever amount you all think is appropriate. As I understand, Councilman Berenger, he's just using the 50 number to derive a number that he thinks is reasonable. Right? And in essence, the reduction is the difference. Now, keep in mind, and I'll say this for the benefit of the applicant as well, ‸ whatever the amount is that the council determines the lien amount will be, there's a 30-day requirement to meet the conditions of council. And that condition, of course, would be payment. And if payment is not made within the 30 days, then the full amount of the lien remains recorded against the property and there's no release. ‸ So I just want to put that on the record as well. Is it? Sorry.

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Okay. And so the math of it is one-one-fifth of 125, 539 and 80 cents

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is the market value according to the property.

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That's it. Thank you, sir.

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Deputy Mayor, ‸ excuse me,

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really for the code board, because I know sometimes we have this discussion after a code board makes a decision.

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We don't have to agree to what the code board may agree to. I just want to kind of throw that out there because I know sometimes ‸ some members may feel that way, but it's not that way. We just, we have a different thought process than what they may have. That doesn't mean it's a disrespect.

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Okay. Any other comments? You turn your light off, please. Yes, sir. We have a motion on the floor. By the chair and a second by

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I really do, sir, but I think under this unique situation, I know we have to establish and as the city attorney alluded to, the condition stated already in conjunction with the city manager. I am going to call my question.

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thoughts. Okay. And you, I'm sure you possibly might get a second, or if not, a majority vote, sir. All right. Church is going to call the question. All in favor, by saying aye. Aye.

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What is your vote, Councilman?

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This item.

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So get your abacus out. Seems like you all are doing something here.

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sir. All right. You ready, Mrs. Al?

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I am now.

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All right, Dennis. Are you ready? I am now. All right. Okay. That's round one. You may be seated, young man. You possibly come on back to the podium here shortly.

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Here we go. Now, the first item was assessed at $50, right? Right? No. $250. This

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is at $50

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day.

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Yes.

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So, yeah, I know what's getting ready to say. But let me look. Let me read it into the minutes.

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CE-20-708 be reduced

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as recommended by the code enforcement board 23-683. Mr. Bunt, sir. ‸ Floor is yours. Denote the conditions for this $50, excuse me, $50 a day dating back from 2-21-21. Wow. 21-21. Okay. And received or achieved on 1-6-20-22. Records show on-site inspections. Mr. Bunt, sir. Okay. This property

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was cited for two violations, storing outdoors and storing junk orders. There was actually three notices sent to the property and there's an initial warning letter that was sent in April 29th of 2020. Gave him 30 days to come into compliance. He did not. So we sent the notice of violation on May 30th, 2020, giving another 30 days. And he did not come into compliance. We sent our final notice after speaking with Mr. Hansen's son, who was the tenant of the property. We gave an extension and we sent a final notice on September 4th of 2020. The property still did not come into compliance.

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That was COVID and we had up and downs in our board so that's what kind of took so long. Board gave 30 days upon re-inspection of the property in February.

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It went to a noncompliance hearing, second hearing

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2021, in which the board upheld the fact that the violations had not been corrected and imposed a fine

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to run until compliance was achieved.

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And we did speak with the son on multiple occasions and he came into our office several times.

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Okay.

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Now this particular property is 411, right?

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Yes.

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Thomas Avenue. This, is it adjacent to the previous piece of property?

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It's the same piece of property.

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I was hoping you wouldn't tell me that. Okay.

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It's a single family lot on Thomas.

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Yes, sir. On Thomas Avenue. Yes, sir. Okay. Councilwoman

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I was just going to say, I, you know, I really appreciate all the points that you've brought up and, and, uh,

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exposed

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in this. Um, I think we need to send a message. and I think the 15,000 given the value of the house is obtainable for him to maintain the property if he chooses.

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in 30 days versus I don't want to be in a position of taking the property away from him when he has the good faith he has shown is just investing in the property. Um, he's, he's broken some of the rules and we want to send a message about that, but, um, I'll make a motion that, um, I guess, what is the motion then?

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‸ Is

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it the staff recommendation?

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staff recommendation

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the recommendation would be that no reduction be given in that case.

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Oh, well, we want to keep it at 15,000.

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You would just deny the reduction and it would stay there.

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No, I haven't, but I was going to make the motion that you're saying that, um, reduced

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cost of staff that the staff recommendation was at the 15.

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no, no, no, staff recommendation is what it is. You had said that 15,000 is more obtainable.

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deny the reduction.

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Make a motion to deny the reduction. Thank you for that, uh, process assistance.

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I'll give you the opportunity to speak, sir. Just give me a minute.

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‸ Is there a second?

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Say what? What is that? I didn't hear your motion.

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So the fine

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motion on the floor by Councilwoman

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for the fee

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and a second by, uh, Deputy Mayor Hearns. Okay. ‸ And then Mr. Hanson, I'm come to the podium. Uh,

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you can turn your lights off.

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I

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just wanted to say something. No, we haven't voted

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yet,

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Okay. I'm, until you hear me say, call the question.

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Yeah,

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know. no.

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‸ Go ahead, sir.

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can talk. So I appreciate that. I just didn't know what you're going to do.

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Can I talk now? Okay.

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I was ‸ going to say those code violations. I just wanted to say something. Maybe you know this already, but they, they were never the same thing. ‸ The first code violation was auto parts. And I told the property manager when I got the first code letter in December, I said, tell them to clean that up and let me know when it's taken care of. And she called me within a week and said, yeah, it's all taken care of,

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So that was taken care of.

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And she said, it wouldn't happen again. So then the next code violation letter I got was in May. Well, they were doing something different. Now they were storing parts from the house on the front lawn. Now, you know, I mean doing storage. So yes,

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but it wasn't the same thing. It wasn't like this just went on and on and on.

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It

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was like a different thing.

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on this time? And she said, there's, they're storing stuff from the house. I said, maybe we should evict these tenants. And she said, if they do anything else, we will. ‸ But I'll tell them to get the stuff out of the front yard.

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of. The third code violation came in, The one you're referring to is when the, when the actually property manager herself parked her car in the garage and put a, put a sheet over it. And when the inspectors went up, lifted the sheet and it didn't have the current tabs on it. So they connected the dots and said these were all the same things, but they weren't. And then the final violation came when my contractor was fixing the house up, um, put a dumpster in the driveway And then he drove his truck onto the front yard. and, um, the inspector happened to be coming by. So they connected all these things like they were all one thing, but they were never one thing.

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of time to take care of it. And we did, we weren't just letting this stuff slide. We took care of it in every case, but they were different things that I think are dots that shouldn't be connected. And that's, that's, that's what I'm trying to say. I wasn't negligent in being told you should take care of this and you got a letter. I did get a letter and I did take care of it. Then something different and I did get a letter

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And then something different. I did get a letter and I replaced the property manager at that point. I'd already replaced the tenants. And these were, these weren't even the same people committing the violations. These were different people. In some cases, two cases it was tenants, but in two, in one case it was the property manager herself.

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So I think this representation that I was,

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or that I wasn't taking care of the property is just not fair.

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stole everything out of the house that I had. And because the house had been vacant for a while, the insurance wouldn't

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cover it.

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I had to pay that all out of pocket.

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I'm just telling you that I have never been negligent. ‸ And when I look around the neighborhood, my property's always been in better shape than the neighbors. And so I don't think I've made anybody suffer as far as that part goes. But as far as you saying that this has all gone on and you got to be taught,

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It's been different things every time

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‸ That's my point. So I think I'm being misrepresented and then punished for the misrepresentation. That's my...

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anything in response to that.

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Yes, sir. That answer?

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Well, yeah, you know, that's it. I mean, I feel like somebody should have notified me too that this stuff was going on so I could have taken care of the liens. If there were lien hearings or something, I should have been told that too and I could have been there and handled that. I mean, you see me here today because I knew it. And that's the only difference between then and now and then.

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Well,

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he received three notices for the same violation. So it wasn't new cases each time. It was all the same. When we go to a hearing, we send a certified letter and we post the property as a secondary measure, posting the property where the violation is. We do that on every case. So he was certified mailed and posted at the location for the first hearing. and then

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I apologize. When

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we come back for a second hearing, which is called the noncompliance hearing, we do the same. We do a certified notice and we post the property. So that way it's notified in both scenarios. So if it doesn't get accepted and certified, we still meet state statute requirements by posting the property of the violation.

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on the property appraiser tax rolls. Right. That mailing address. That's correct.

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And then the ‸ posting is on the property that's in violation.

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Thank you, sir.

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Yeah. Yeah,

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mine is pretty simple. Our code enforcement department is very, very good on communication. ‸ If there are issues, this is the consequences of having properties when it's out of state. Right? I own properties in some other locations and

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When I purchase that piece of property, it becomes my responsibility. ‸ Is that responsibility difficult? Might be being out of state. Of course. But at the same time, I'm making profit on those particular properties, so it becomes my baby. So ‸ I think when you're having that ‸ communication with our code enforcement, you make a phone call to them and you tell them, hey, I have a tenant that has some issues. Can you please give me some time? I've done it before I got on council and I still got some issues on some properties now that I call. But I communicate with them and let them know about my issues that I have And so they'll give you that leeway but if there's no communication, there's only contact with the manager and then it could be some ‸ conflict in that. ‸ So I'm just, I'm letting you know that they, if you communicate with them, even if you don't talk to Gonzalez, this man's the phone all the time.

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That address. For whatever address is on file.

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what are they going to do with it? No,

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it

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doesn't go

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to Thomas. It goes to the owner. That's right.

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I didn't get certified letters. I didn't get them. ‸ I'm not saying they weren't sent. I'm just saying I didn't get them and

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never got, I'd like to see the record of those letters and I'd like to see who signed for them. It's documented. Are they supposed to be signed for?

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Of course. He can make a public records request.

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can give him the entire file of the case with photos showing each time we went there in 30 days. That's feasible.

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Are they

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supposed to be signed? Sir,

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sir,

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he's talking. Oh, I'm sorry.

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So, so we have no choice.

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send it. We have to send it to what's on the tax rolls and what's in the property appraiser. And then as a secondary method, in case somebody doesn't get it, we also post the property in violation, which is also required under state statute.

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Okay. All right.

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No, I was just going to say that this is not personal at all. We have really started to, we have had, we have been plagued in Cocoa by absentee landlords. And so we have started to take this a lot more seriously. So when I say send a message, you're not being treated differently than others. And it's just that we have a whole section of the city that has been abused. So,

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That's all I wanted to say.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay. Thank you.

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And this is for either city manager or council, council.

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I have is just if Hanson Asset Group even exists, so from, if you can help me understand, from an enforceability standpoint, ‸ the fine is associated

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It doesn't exist. That ‸ property has it, ‸ is the possibility that the property is transferred to Mr.

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hansen

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as the individual and he can circumvent this or is it associated directly to the property?

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It associates directly to the property, and all the liens stay on the property, regardless of owner's purchase.

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Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

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Okay. All right. Any other questions before I call the question? Just going to call the question. All in favor by the motion made by Councilwoman cost and second by Deputy Mayor for the fee

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Is that correct, ma'am?

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Okay. All right.

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going to call the question. All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any nays? Nay. You don't count, brother. You count, but you can't vote. Thank you very much, sir. That's

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it.

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You can. I mean, you have to go through the court system. I'm sure.

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Wow. Okay. I mean,

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Yes, sir.

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And again, two decisions have been made by Council regarding two different liens and there is a 30-day requirement for payment. If you fail to make the payment on the decisions made by Council on the liens, then the liens will stay recorded against the property at the lien value. ‸ So, I just

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want

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to state that again for the record since you said you haven't received notice before, which I find hard to believe.

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want to make sure you understand

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a short time to come up with that kind of money.

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That's a, that's a code, that's a code requirement. So, I just wanted to state that for the record for your benefit, sir.

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Thank you, Mr. Hanson. Sir.

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Move

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on to item number three, approve the request street closure outside of the CBD

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Centennial Celebration on

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This will be done by, sir?

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I'm sitting in for Mrs. Singer tonight.

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Okay.

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This is a request for a street closure in association, as you said, Mr. Mayor, with the 100-year celebration of the Moore Museum, the Moore School. And so, we'd ask the council's favor of consideration.

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Second. We have a motion on the floor for the street closure by council for December the 2nd, 2023, by the chair and the second

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going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any nays? Aye.

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unanimously. Okay. Moving on to item number four, the fourth and final item for tonight. Consider the appointment

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to fill the vacancy of an unexpired regular member term as well as the first alternate member seat on the Code Enforcement Board.

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administrative services director Yes,

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sir, this regular member vacancy came about due to Mr. Light holder coming off the board. So We've received several applicants for interest and so you're selecting one regular member and One alternate member because an alternate also resigned from the board as well. So

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Okay, so we're looking for one red Regular member and one alternate.

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Yes, and

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of the

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applicants one of the applicants is an alternate

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different locations as well.

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resides ‸ on the river edge drive

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It evades me right about now, but my thing is to I ‸ like the diversity of it all to the truth ‸ I do support and endorse this councilwoman ‸ calls

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Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to promote Josue Otero to the position that was vacated by Mr. Light holder and

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Okay, we have a motion on the floor by councilwoman

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to make

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and then you said first alternate would be miss bonilla.

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Yes

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And what was your other recommendation

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and dick moeller would take there's there are two alternates on this committee

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as the regular That would free up another alternate vacancy,

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right? So Dick moeller would be the I guess the second alternate in this case

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And we have a second

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Okay, just gonna call the question all

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the

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favor ‸ saying aye aye And the nays I'm gonna make it unanimous I'm

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gonna make it unanimous Uh,

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I guess it's up there too as well Uh, make it let the record reflect Unanimous vote for mr. Otero as a regular member

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okay Okay, all right

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City, uh, excuse me of council business. We have nothing for city business

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Thank you. Um, we'll proceed on the reports. Do we have any reports for tonight?

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We're good

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It is 8 55

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I'm sorry

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Okay, um

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No reports, sir Okay, let's do uh deputy mayor Let's do the rookie first. Let's get

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we'll do the rookie next go ahead deputy mayor

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Uh, so the only thing I have, uh, I just want to say ‸ enjoyed the halloween uh festivities we had in the village Uh, where we were the judges for the costumes Um, I

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don't know if we got to

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report that Uh already Um,

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west coast attending an emergency management

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academy, uh, which is going to help me make better informed decisions in the case that Our region our city is over hit by a disaster So, uh, that's that's a plus for the city Um,

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and

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that's all I have for tonight

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thank you very much.

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Uh next will be uh Councilman

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sir.

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Thank you, sir. Uh, just uh, ‸ I was actually able to attend two events

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Passionate about so the first was at the harry team work cultural center

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Uh, if you never had the opportunity to go there, please please please go visit to honor that legacy. We're surrounded by ‸ a group of men, as Men on a mission of which through that series we've had multiple gentlemen from from the city of coco take part in that and sharing Uh their their goals and and what helps them achieve that uh, the second

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Uh, and it was amazing to see the the outstanding work that's being done by that young organization Uh in helping veterans along the way. So, uh, my hats off to the whole organization Absolutely fantastic. Thank you, sir.

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Very good. Thank you, sir

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Uh, let's see

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Yeah, or does

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first?

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Um,

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so for the first item, um Was I want to give a huge shout out to um

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Really terrorizing areas within my district And you

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sheriff department

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Um, and so sometimes

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on the back for the hard work But they listen to the community the community

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Sometimes that's ‸ scary thing to do but uh

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they want to be safe And so sometimes they're just nervous about speaking to the police department because of backlash

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And giving names and photos and videos and everything they could um to help the

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So again shout out to uh, detective fogu. I said that right chief uh Cox and Zuniga.

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All right. um again, thank you all for for your hard work and also again, weeks and weeks have been gone

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and so I believe uh we Sparked a lot of fear, but we know we have to keep you know keep the foot on the pedal um, but again shout out to the police department for your due diligence uh today um, we was all wet Um at the uh groundbreaking at provost park um Another great project um that the city has Endeavored in man.

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man um It's just a blessing again to see some of these great things going on within the city um Mr. Brown don't know how to shovel because he got his hands Awkward you know, so I'm gonna make sure i'm

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make

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um Again another photo from um,

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had to put our umbrellas over the king, you know

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to me because I was able to publicly uh acknowledge the mayor Um for helping me out for just being interested in politics um, and so this project was going to help a lot of families in the community um ‸ And you see the students and community members came out as well to celebrate This is my son um So my son is uh four years old now and some of y'all probably remember him when he was little little Um, but he's with officer collins officer collins is

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uh,

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in that school.

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um They come to him and talk to him about a lot of things. So this this idea of having a um Officer inside of our schools instead of a security guard or a sheriff or

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Uh officer inside of that school is really going to make a huge difference within the community It'll allow those students to be able or scholars to be able to trust Uh, the police department. So he was checking his heart on this when he thought he was a doctor on halloween and um so uh, so did it but every day my son always goes to officer collins he leave his own daddy and go to officer collins um But again, thank you all for for getting to that contract with uh image of child academy um

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was

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‸ but um My daughter she placed last week at the state swim meet um She was the homecoming queen Uh, and and now today was the first basketball game today And she's now being recruited by the eighth

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field So, um shout out to her for for making me happy and now I don't have to spend money on college um,

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man, and I think she's just i'm proud of her so

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so glad it's eight o'clock and not nine o'clock

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Okay, and I just push one of these to move forward just any right button,

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we go. Oh Oh It is it's been it's my privilege, um that I am serving on the florida solar energy center advisory board I attended the first meeting this week um Um, florida is adding more

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and in fact Solar jobs are number we are number two in solar jobs in the nation And those are jobs that are not going to leave the country. They're going to stay right here So it's really pleased to find out about

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they have a very aggressive apprenticeship program Which really has not been on our radar screen. So we need to bring that to

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that have been working on training and job enhancement. um I'm going to be speaking this sunday at the world day of remembrance

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We were coco was the second municipality

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which is heading toward less fatalities and and accidents. So we know we can do this. We see examples of other cities and even countries that have brought their numbers way down. um I I mean this is big because florida is actually number two for fatalities in the nation which ‸ is not a good statistic. and even worse uh uh

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is 12th in the u.s for accidents. So we have a lot that we can do. And that those statistics come from a study called Dangerous by Design that Smart Growth America does. I'm not sure if it's annually or biannually. But we know that we can bring those stats down through design to some degree, at least. And in fact, that's what one of the projects, the project that we're doing on Clear Lake right now from 520 all the way to Michigan. That's what that's based on. That was a federal grant to make that that road

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because we have because of the poverty we have. ‸ there are so many people that really depend on their own feet or on bicycles or on public transportation. And that makes them more vulnerable to accidents and car accidents, traffic accidents. so

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Municipal Officials. and um um that I just cannot say enough good things about the Florida League of Cities and the kind of training that they provide and how much I wish that I had had all that training before I ever stepped up ‸ here.

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um Some of the big takeaways were just in improving communications, both on the dais and um internally.

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so that consul can have some informal discussions, making their final decisions for the council meetings. They talked about holding community meetings and that's a place where your champions can come forward, where people that are going to be the future council members will actually uh step up.

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And in social media there were a couple of of clues there because I think we're probably very, we're all very vulnerable and

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of credit for hanging in there on social media. Because after

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But um they did make the point that and we've had a couple of things you know come up on social media that you really don't resolve anything on social media. That it's necessary to take it off social media either by you know email communications or phone calls or whatever. And they also suggested that ‸ you share rather than make your own posts. but the biggest part of the workshop was on development and they really emphasized the clear vision, the robust public engagement, the developing a strategic plan, identifying values um and areas of agreement because

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‸ with and the best

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that vacant property that will actually sell as much as it would with everything developed around it. that's currently vacant because they have a plan because you know there's going to be a store there because you know there's going to be a school there because they have that in place. uh The value of the property is higher and of course

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you know we heard that at the the redevelopment conference as well. The place making is so important and that you know I hadn't thought about this before but you know those plans reflect your values and those values are what part of what supports and builds your city's culture. The comp plan the comprehensive plan um I'm just

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and I and I hope it's something that people refer to you they really emphasized how I mean this regulates our development our investments and infrastructure. um

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and that the ordinances actually develop out of that comp plan so that comp plan gives you goals and objectives and you should be able to connect your ordinances to it.

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and we've had a very good education I thought we had a great education this year when we went through our our millage increase and with finances

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how because of ‸ Florida's our well our homestead exemptions and our Save Our Homes Act we're actually shifting the tax burden to those that are renting more than those ‸ are owning their own home and I mean I would be the first to

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I don't want to get rid of the Save Our Homes Act I love having lower taxes because essentially having been in my home a while

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driver in bringing rents up as well and you know I offer this without judgment just I thought it was really interesting that how we're seeing this tax burden shift does everybody get that by what we have up here so essentially all the

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home and the mayor knows this because he has um I mean

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exemptions on it

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absolutely right my home because it's so right commercial yeah

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and so if you're renting that out you would be passing on those expenses to the people that were renting your home um and so that's where the shift takes place so you know

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thank God I don't have rental so I have to deal with that headache

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yeah and this is we've had um an email discussion over the last week about the clearing of the the right-of-way um ‸ the sign on the ‸ left is was an old it was actually an old code enforcement sign now and then on the right you have that stake which ‸ is 10 feet which is the right away from from from the road um

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we have um a list of right-of-ways that we maintain

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this and we don't really know ‸ i mean this list kind of developed probably before we were here and there's some inconsistencies in it and my big issue is that, you know, I work with Dennis quite a bit. When I get calls from people that, you know, there's a vegetation overgrowth or whatever, in fact this happened just a few weeks ago, I

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Dennis, he goes out and sites the property owner and they either clean it up or we abate it. In the case of, um you know, in the case of this property, we actually abated it on May 8th of last year.

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And so i just out of this, I would just like to ask that it's important, I think it's important for code enforcement, it's important certainly for me that there be some consistency. Because this includes private property as well as public property. So I'd like to ask staff and have consensus of council to have staff look at this and come up with some policy. Because right now, we are citing private property owners, some private ‸ property owners, but not others. And, um you know, I think we ‸ just have a lot more credibility if we come up with more of a policy on this. um So is there, what about the other council members? Do you agree that we can that we can ask staff to bring this back with some recommendations?

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gonna ‸ say the first two, all right? so So you have,

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that's there. um um the home the The person who

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the lot, he cuts his ‸ lot. But if we didn't cut that right away area coming around that corner, we will have uh two to three, four foot high grass in that area. they look it'll look absolutely horrible.

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where they come in they cut their property, but they don't cut the corner by the stop sign. So

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look good. To me, it's just my personal opinion. I just, I don't see, um it's but it but it seems like this one particular property is causing all of this, um conversation and

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um people in some people in the area ‸ who live in this area don't want this property develop. So ever since someone purchased it and started to actually looking into developing the property, that's when we have all the issues and all the visibility and all the concern about this particular property. And that's, I, I do, I get it. And I think people, i I don't mind opinions about not building because of wetlands or whatever, whatever. But that's the only reason why ‸ the conversation took place

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of that property. So I don't see an issue. I think the city does a good job of cleaning up those areas. um they're not

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going into and clearing the whole property. um ‸ I just, I don't, I think this will go on for a long time until somebody actually start building on it probably. But,

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several owners over the years, you know, that I'm familiar with and it's never been built on because it is pretty significant wetlands. And maybe this new developer will overcome that. But that really, you know, with the conversation really by revealing this list, I mean, I would think really brought it to a different kind of level and issue because, um

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here,

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um because I'm not sure where the code is on this, back to that list um

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but the overgrown grass over 12 inches or underbrush and weed, I guess there's verbiage to that effect. He can cite that. um I don't think there's anything in, I don't think we have anything on our right-of-way People clearing the right-of-way now in this case

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um in that sometimes we've cleared it and other times the property owner has been cited. And then each time he has cleared it, except for last May when they actually just had the city abate it. And from what I understand is then the homeowner, the property owner would get a bill for that abatement. ‸ So what I'm just asking is because there are also when we look at this list, there are additional properties I'd like to see on here. There are a couple that are actually city owned that and I'm just would like to see some consistency or maybe some review of this. I know when I went to the Orange County when I went to their code they have some verbiage in regard to property owners have to maintain their right-of-way

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staff review this and come back with some recommendations. all

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right

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what I would like to see.

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Are you asking

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you

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asking for you? Are you actually

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deduct from the list, but add um to the list

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being consistent because if we're actually, you know, if we're going out and

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inciting

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Some folks and not others and we we need some consistency.

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I trust the judgment of my city manager and his

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You asked this opinion. I'm trying to convey my thoughts and now you're cutting me off. Now

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uh

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I would need to sit down and talk with the city manager and staff in detail.

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to see exactly what are ‸ the major concerns here.

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greatest concern is trying to do what's best. I think looking at the overall performance for the city of

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is the most important thing to me. Safety first and foremost and providing quality services for uh the citizens of

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that creates animosity. I'm not going to be involved. Yeah.

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No, and I'm not asking that either.

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Ma'am, ma'am, ‸ please. but But then again, it it can spawn from this. And I don't want to foster a negative conversation. So so there again, I will, my for me and Michael Blake, my opinion is to meet with the city manager in reference of maintaining the city right of ways

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and have that conversation with them in conjunction with the staff too as well. And that's my assessment. And I stand on that. uh

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Okay. Then Councilman

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and then then Councilman

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Sure. And thank you. Just at this time, uh uh at this time, just to before I would ask staff to, to, for that work, uh I think in good faith as a council member just on my own, I need to do due diligence prior to that. So, and to that end, from this issue, whatever, the issue that's raised, I feel that I owe uh due diligence as a council member prior to asking staff to go do, you know, or sitting, as asking ‸ city manager uh to add work to staff stay. So, just at this time, I would prefer to, on my own, take a look in some of the things and then, you know, based on that, uh maybe make it a better informed decision.

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okay um but

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So, but you want to do that before you ask staff.

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Correct. Yep.

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Okay.

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or yes ma'am. Sorry.

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okay

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Yep. ‸ Doesn't

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Okay, fine. So, um um so anyway, I certainly will be having conversations about this. Like I said, there are other properties that are city owned, um that are being at least one anyway. um and I, of course, have not had a chance to look at all of these either. So, um moving on and not to be contentious, but we did receive a,

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they were not notified on the zoning

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because technically it didn't reach that

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um and we talk about good faith. And in this case, it, ‸ is concerning because

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with the comprehensive plan change and with the text amendment and such a significant change to the area.

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and they are a foundational institutional institution within

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And I only bring this up because I just think that we should really have in mind good faith when we do this. They were really the only ones that were impacted. I think the merchants are all very much in favor

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in the school.

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children being delivered. And um it wouldn't have changed the vote, but um it's just a matter of including people in the conversation. And again, that robust conversation, which I've really appreciated tonight, by the way. um uh We did put notices in the paper, but even I've discovered I'm going to need to get start getting a hard copy of the Florida today. This is

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ad versus a legal notice. The legal notices are you have to be looking for them. And evidently there are people looking for them because I do get calls. I got a call on the the Board of Adjustments one

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they were um taking out 40 parking places in the village and this person was all upset about it. Well, it turns out that was that was actually um rescinded before it ever even went to the Board of Adjustment. But at any rate, there are sometimes things in here that would really interest people. And I just wonder if doing the minimum um is showing good faith, if there are other ways that ‸ we can let people know um decisions that we're making that will really impact them. And then uh lastly, just to remind everyone that every Saturday in December, the train um the

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guests during the holiday season and I hope people will um take advantage of that. At the town hall, um I kept hearing from people that they hadn't been to the museum before that it was a real hidden gem. So

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just let me say lastly that I do really appreciate the kind of robust conversation that we've had this evening. And

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I know that um I was given a hard time for my vote for for voting for you. um I actually got ‸ several calls. um But I i think that um that you know, is based on, you know, professionalism and how, you know, wanting to really be able to legislate on this council because you had that experience. um I'm sorry we didn't get to talk more, didn't take more time to talk about the strength of the other candidates. Because certainly we had some really good people applying for the position.

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was it from, ‸ Theodore Roosevelt quote. The one about, you know, credit goes to the one in the arena

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get all dirty. And um I feel like we have to get up here every week and make lots of mistakes in front of people. And um the one thing I'm sure about, we may have disagreements amongst us. But the one thing I'm sure about is that everyone up here is really from their own perspective is doing what they think is best for

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So. Welcome.

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Thank you.

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Mayor, do you need this? Of

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course I do. Thank you.

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because, hey man, we're, you know, 8 30 and time is of the essence. And

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So I think I want to modify that. um This is for on the corner of Dixon Boulevard

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they were feeding the community. um Two Saturdays ago, and we were in attendance of that. So they were feeding the people. This is the Halloween event that took place. One of my former students and his beautiful family there where we have the costumes with the animals and so forth.

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our police staff. Officer Santos is there coming in on the helicopter compliments of

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‸ I'm happy to say an excellent turnout uh this past weekend. Very busy for us all. I'm

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um

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board members

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in his honor. And I'm very happy that I think the support of council. ‸ Something well, well overdue, but rewarding. um The reason why I'm saying that because Mr. falston Coach

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sponsors over 15 000 free quality hours, does not receive any pay, provide services, uh funding for kids out of his own pocket and out of his own foundation. And he is home grown and he's a product of

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County school system. And he was able to to go and enter into the league and play a number of years with both the Oakland Raiders, and

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So for the first time ever in

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County's history, we're naming this rubberized track in his honor. So i want to say thank you, staff, council members, etc etc And

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um Mrs. Pam

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also and her staff helped promote this event. Yvonne Minus was there. Also, the chief is doing a walk on the 16th here. So I'm asking all citizens located

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Also, we had the opportunity after we had the event at Provost Park, went to Emma Jewel to do an interview by the kids and their media staff. I was very proud of the scholars and warriors there. Those the greatest investment is our children from out of our community, especially those that that may have come in contact and been shunned away for whatever reasons. But their education still prevails and we

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manager and staff we're changing the face is unity in the community. It's the lives that we impact. I have family members that have died there. But also the beautiful thing about it is that we're we're taking something that has been uh has a negative connotation and making when we get lemons, we make lemonade and and and we defy all odds. So

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Sometimes it's a thankless job, but if we don't recognize and acknowledge our own no one else will famous saying yes we forget. it I'm not going to forget

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And I know the struggles that I endured as

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are not privy to it. So

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is the most important thing. Wisdom. uh That's all I have to say, but I'm moving along. Tigers are in

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Friday. um I wish our men and women, both the boys and girls uh and students and

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um would like to um recognize we had a celebration today. uh Well, yesterday, excuse me, for adoption here also at the regional hospital. They had a cancer drive. you Myself, um ‸ Sheriff Wayne

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was there. ‸ And you can see some of the recipients there with the pink on. That is the president to our far left and

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with the pink jacket on and the gentleman in the pig suit ‸ the hot pink pig suit was involved in it also too. um I want to say a special shout out to Judge Kelly

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job in reference of celebration of adoption that was held at the sports complex at the softball field where 10 families were impacted of adopting kids. And it's very important um that those children know that people do love them. People do care for them and care about them. And in conclusion, I would like

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author. um I would like for him to reach out to the museum and also be a part of that because there's power in numbers and the more activities and organizations that

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will have with the community unity in the community. We keep talking about that the last five uh letters in the word community in its unity to all 400 plus employees for the great city of Coco city manager city staff. City attorney to all the citizens of

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we thank you we embrace you and we appreciate you happy Thanksgiving. We will have one more council meeting prior to our Thanksgiving. uh But I thank you all for being actively involved.

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because you know where I'm going when we leave here. uh My thing is this. The only way we can get ahead is that we must use our head. And we're

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here

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to work together and not strategically pinpoint at each other. So please understand that concept. It's imperative that you do. And the reason why I say that is because there's power in numbers. And I thank you Kendall Moore, Linda Hudson. Congratulations, um James

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for having this track named in your honor, sir. You are well worth it and I'm extremely proud of you. One ‸ other thing. We had the opportunity to attend Mike

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erdman's

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Food Drive for the City of

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Outstanding job. We have two truckloads and they're growing strong. I do not have any pictures of it. But next week we will.

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and I expect us to do it again.

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to those Raiders 26 nothing. I think it's called a whitewash. I think that's when you put a

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little bleach in the water and you clean them up.

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Basketball season coming.

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Well, we

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only live in the present.

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We only live in the present. So I thank you very much.

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very much with this because strength doesn't always come from what you can do. Sometimes it comes from overcoming the things you thought you couldn't do. So I ask you for your

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strength.

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I'll second it since y'all scared the talk All in favor by saying aye.

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Aye.

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aye

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many nays. eyes have unanimously going. Peace.

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