Beautiful downtown Cocoa Village, 65th Stone Street.
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Our invocation
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by ‸ Tiger Pride. Would everyone stand please for invocation?
Thank
you. If
you will, by your head.
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Thank you for another day of life, health, and strength. Lord, bless us as we go through this meeting, as we make sound
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are away at this meeting. Lord,
bless
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Amen.
Amen.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for
which it
stands,
one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please. Ma'am.
Yes, sir. Mayor Blake.
Present, ma'am.
Deputy Mayor Weeks.
Here.
Councilmember Goins. Councilmember Hearn.
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Here.
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Here. And City Manager Witten. Thank you.
Thank you very much, ma'am, for doing roll call.
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Excuse me. ‸ Regular meeting held January the 14th, 2024. What are the wishes of council? Move to approve. May I have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks? Second. Second.
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All in favor of saying ‸ aye.
Aye.
Ayes have ‸ unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 2-2. Regular meeting of September the 10th, 2024. What are the wishes of council? Move to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks? Second.
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Chair's going to call the question.
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Aye. Ayes have ‸ unanimously. Third and final minutes.
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the wishes of council? Move to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks? Second. Second by Councilwoman Koss. Chair's going to call the question.
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Aye. Ayes have ‸ unanimously. Moving on to delegations. We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. We have 9 cards. And I see a lot of these cards have Matthew's Hope on it. Are you going to have one keynote speaker or shall I just listen to each one for three minutes? What are your wishes?
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Okay. That it is.
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sir.
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phone number for water ‸ main leaks, 426, also H2O. Easy to remember. I'm getting ready to go to Orlando for a pension conference. I'm now on a general pension plan as a trustee. And, you know, during our downtime, folks
approach me and say
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hey,
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So, if
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had some direction, you know, I'd be really happy to say, hey, we
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main break. I was just checking to see if any movement on that.
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You have already? Yes. So, we are in
collaboration with that.
‸ Okay. So, with that being said, could I get your blessing? So, when I do go to this conference and I'm asked what's happening in Cocoa, I could say, this is what's happening.
As
the
president of the Florida League of Cities, Paul,
I
mean, that's all I can do. Excuse me.
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That's all I can do. You know, it's up to them, various committees, to take a look at it and the big wigs because, you know, you must go through the process.
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state of Florida. I think it's something nationwide. Regardless, if where you travel in this country, if you come across something like that, it's just like calling 911. So, if you don't mind, I don't mind sharing it with the folks because I think you said there's like 410 municipalities.
411, brother. You're on. 411.
Well, you're counting Cocoa as well as ‸ 411, right? But some more are being added. Okay. Well, in the Florida Public Pension Trustee Association, FPPTA it's known as, it's
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organization that helps teach the trustees how to administer pensions.
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So, that's that much more that we
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put the word out. So, fingers crossed. Thank you for your time. And I just wanted to apologize because I was being presumptuous at that last meeting when I came up.
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all come onto this council with an empty plate. And then you get folks like me to come up here. And here I am putting something more on your plate. And I didn't think about that until that morning. It's like, here I am adding more to your plate. So, I just want to apologize if, you know, that's more than,
I
mean, I'm more than happy to take it off your plate and give it somewhere else.
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to. And as always, I love you all. Thank you for serving our community. You have a question. Hold on, LT.
Oh, my question was more for the city manager, I think. I'm just wondering what our capability is to pursue something like that. Is that something that, I mean, how would we go about doing something like that?
It's a federal application. ‸ And so, and so those are, those are given out not by the city, not by county or state. It's, it's, it's, it literally is a process that you have to go to, to have approved, make the case to and have approved by, I don't know if it's the FCC, but it's a federal agency that has to approve three digit designations. So, it's a, it's a long extended process.
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Yeah, we need to figure out the process because it's a great idea. Yeah.
Well, if you look at 9-1-1, it's, it was instituted in 1968 from Alaska and eventually made its way around the country. So, we just figure out how they went about doing it.
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All right. Thank you.
One more for you. We have one more question.
Without taking up too much time, I just wanted to take a second to commend you and thank you. We had our event for the Cocoa High School football team the other day and it was pointed out
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You were out there actually picking up trash. ‸ Well,
you know what I was doing.
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Oh, yeah. And by picking up the litter, that's thanking our veterans. Because I don't always
get to thank a veteran.
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Hey, thank you all.
24-16, baby. Mr. Wheeler Wade, sir.
Thanks, sir. I
would like to say good evening to everybody. This is my first time here.
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I'm here. I have a concern that I want to bring before everybody. And I spoke with Deputy Mayor Patricia Weeks the other day.
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And the issue and the problem I have is that for a while now, when you get off 95 and head east on 524, coming into the city, there's nothing but a lot of trash, a lot of litter, and it's not a good look for the city and a good eyesore. I live in the Coventry, and when we come out the
inches
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there, straight across the street on the south side, if you start at Cox Road and head east all the way to Industry Road, there's nothing but litter, paper, trash.
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He works for the Florida Department of Transportation. He told me that from Cox Road to Industry Road is supposed to be
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I spoke
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They said that they outsourced that work to U.S. lawns. I spoke with somebody at U.S. lawns, and they said that they're only supposed to cut it. They're not supposed to pick up trash. I just think it's a bad look. Bags, bottles, plastic. There's a lot of building going on up in that area and a lot of new apartments. And to get off 95 and come into all the way to the post office, it's just an eyesore. A lot of trash, a lot of paper. Sometimes they cut it, and then they don't pick up the trash.
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moved here. That used to be a job that the sheriff's department and the inmates used to do. So I don't know whether that's still an option in the future, but I just would like for the mayor or the city councilmen to find out
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be picked up ‸ at least once a month.
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that the trunks come down on that road all the time and the debris fly out. But I've been sounding the alarm since August, and there's the trash. It looks really bad. And I'm supposed to meet with a guy named Gary on Thursday morning, and ‸ I'm going to meet with him, and
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So that's just my concern. I live in Cocoa, and you go down to Vieira, and you don't see trash and papers and bottles everywhere. And so I would like for my area to just look just ‸ as nice. Thank you.
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Yeah, I just wanted to say we did talk, and I told him it would be a good idea to come tonight to bring up because he has tried so hard to reach so many different departments. And ‸ I, too, have seen the trash all along 524.
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So I want to thank you ‸ for coming tonight and, again, bringing it back up. I believe I talked to the city manager at one point about who was responsible for picking up the trash along 524, and ‸ he said part of it was cocoa and part of it was others. So by you coming tonight, we'll get to the bottom of it. So thank you.
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Yes, sir. ‸ Just based on my experience, the responsibility is normally on the contractor.
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go out and just cut and just run over trash. That just really doesn't make sense to me. I mean that ‸ we have to maybe have a deep conversation because this came up before, I think maybe last one, I think me and Ms. Morgan talked about it as well, and it sounds like it's still going on, So that's something we really need to bring ‸ this company to the table and ‸ really can't be a slap on the wrist ‸ at this point. because this is a numerous amount of people. ‸ It's not just him
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have said this, and I think we all have seen it at some point, but if they're going out just cutting, that's
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And they ‸ just don't care, and then somebody in their company is not following up with their workers. That's another problem. ‸ But it all
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up falling back on who? Us.
And
so, yeah,
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my first time hearing it.
And
Ms., who did, do you know who you talked to at U.S. Long? Did you have a person that you spoke
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She said ‸ they were contracted
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and she said that they were just responsible for cutting,
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litter. And then I talked to a guy from the Florida Department of Transportation. He said
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Yeah, yeah,
yeah. But
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that's supposed
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All right,
I
appreciate you. Thank you.
‸ So
that was just my only statement.
It's
just ‸ it's going to fall back on us. And so we just, you know, if something needs to happen, if that gets to the point where they're not filling their obligation, then we might need to find another contractor. That's just how simple that could be. And I'm pretty sure there's other companies out there
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be willing to, you know, cut that corridor.
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to do. So thank you.
Light, please.
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of Florida like everyone else. Sometimes you will see a sign that says
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have Fisk Boulevard from Kennedy Middle School all the way down to, say, Lowe's. So we clean up that area too as well in conjunction with the city of Rockledge. Something to think about, adopt a highway. Well, yes, after you have that meeting with
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company, I think I've personally, two years ago,
a
gentleman came by with cans, beer cans, and I guess this container burst. And it spewed all on 524.
I
got a phone call. Guess who was out there on 524 picking up beer cans and aluminum cans. So I get it. I understand it. So I thank you. Okay.
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A squeaky wheel. That's right. Squeak, squeak.
Okay.
Now I'm just getting an update on ‸ the water station, ‸ see what, if there was a solution, or if it's still in paper, thought, or if there's moving forward or what.
When was the last time you were here, Mr. Ford? A month or so ago. Okay. Mr. City Manager. I know it's a process, but. Yes, it is a process. How can we shed any light on this, sir?
It's still under research. He was here at the, I don't know if that was a special meeting, but he was here right before the holiday break there. So it's still under research. ‸ Correct.
As a matter
of fact, Mr. Walsh and I talked about it at our last meeting on Friday.
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There's many solutions. I can get water, but it's ‸ the willingness of the water company.
Mr.
Martin, you hit the,
thank you, ma'am. Oh, I'm sorry. You're good, brother. It's not you.
You know, ‸ there is a method. You put ‸ a meter on a hydrant, and you get the count in your name, and you use the hydrant with the meter in conjunction with what you use, and you get, you know, you get billed. I don't know what the length of it is. I've seen this out there on Satellite Boulevard numerous times, and I've done it myself numerous times on construction jobs when you need excess water.
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And they keep saying they don't put water taps at the end of the road and people run them down that road. Well, that's not so. I have pictures and time, but we'll get into that to another thing. They just put a brand new meter in the other day, and they trucked that line wherever it needed to go, and it didn't go to that first lot. So, you know,
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It is happening. So, I don't know if there's a water official
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here.
He's here? Okay. Oh, he's right here. I'm sorry. I didn't know who he was. Well,
I
got the snake. I'd
have
been bit.
But
I
went
to try to talk to him, but they told me I couldn't talk to him at the water facility because I didn't have the something or didn't know. So, I didn't know, and
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I didn't know if someone else had to talk before I talked or how this worked, but
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got to be a solution. We can put a rocket on the moon, and we can land it back. So, I don't see how we can't have water. Clean water. You know what I mean? So, and I've even asked, I brought a well driller out there. They wanted $5,600 to drill a well. They was going to drill the well right then and there, but
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He said, son, don't drill this well. You're just wasting your money. The water stinks. You got arsenic. I have 13 animals also.
I
didn't last time it needs water. And I know, you know, a lot of cases people say, well, you shouldn't have moved out there. Well, we shouldn't have a 16-inch water main down on the road that all of our taxpayer
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paid. Nobody can use it. So, you know, there is a point to this. So, I hope, you know, we keep moving forward, and I know it's a process, but the property did come up for sale beside the old water pump station. So, I don't know if the whole station's for sale or just a lot for side.
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need to use it. But I don't know. And if someone, if Alex could call me or Mr. Walsh himself and see if we can have a temporary solution for water. So, I know we can do this. We just got to work forward and move together. ‸ And, you know, it's just not fair for us at the end of the road to pay the same taxes as the people at the front of the road. To me, that's not fair.
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‸ You know, regardless if it's maintained or unmaintained.
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and they hook it to the meter. ‸ Since I own the road, I'm going to be maintaining it and taking care of it and sign a disclosure that that's all me.
So,
you know, that's what we need to move forward.
Mr. Ford, we're going to give us the chance to do that process. I guess.
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I'll be back.
Okay,
Arnold.
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Good afternoon. Or evening, I guess it is. City manager, mayor, council. Appreciate you. I'm reading my statement this evening to stay on point and not get into talking about the millions of dollars that we've invested into this community and the benefits received and the lives impacted. Since December 29th, I have sent several texts and left a few voicemail messages, as have a couple of my members of my leadership staff, for our city manager to look for a guidance, if you will, ‸ regarding an opportunity for Matthews Hope that has a timely factor to it.
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state statute 1365, which basically criminalizes homelessness, no matter what some may tell you or want you to believe. Recently, we were contacted by Amber Carroll, the director of Brevard Homeless Coalition, asking if Matthews Hope would be willing to take the lead in locating shelter and operating dignity buses, which are basically greyhound sleepers, much like you would see on an Amtrak train.
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spent by June 30th, specifically set aside for as many shelters, to shelter as many people as possible at night. But again, that must be spent by June 30th.
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be placed ‸ with security at each location, whether that would be a camp, a hotel, a shelter, a bus, or what have you.
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place of safety and rest for the homeless men, women, and children. And we have the full acknowledgement that
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is raising their hands or has the resources to have a brick and mortar shelter.
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various municipalities willing to partner with us. These individuals seeking shelter would be returned the next morning to wherever they were picked up. So we are not an Uber service. If we pick you up in St. John's, we take you back to St. John's. This new law has many flaws, but one of the worst is the number of working homeless now becoming unemployed ‸ because no call, no show, because they are arrested the night before and could not call their job. Our ask this evening is to ask that one of you make a motion for the following.
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year history of
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privately owned parking lot when not in use. And vote of confidence that Matthews Hope taking the lead initiative with this based on COCO where we currently operate our ministry.
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So not asking permit. I don't think it's so much asking permission is it is simply asking for cooperation and your backup. The last consideration
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And that's the fact that if I can get the people out of the park out in front of the local vendors and companies from people sleeping there, we can take care of that.
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all anywhere. And you will soon be sued for this for some weird reason. Thank you. Any questions? I'm more than happy to answer.
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me. Yes, I was just
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made aware of this situation.
Councilman Hearns, I can't hear you out here,
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think that was Thursday Friday I spoke to you
yes sir,
which you know, to me it was kind of short notice but for such a big opportunity and it was my hopes that we can actually bring this up for council discussion and. see if this is something that the city is uh looking to entertain or uh go into. So if there's any other council members is willing to join me on exploring those or this conversation. um
And the challenge we do have, it's very timely. We had tried to try to contact the city for some guidance because we realized there was such a short area of space. The state has done this. The state representatives put this in place, put the money in place. And
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because quite honestly, there's no one else that can do it. We have also, I'll mention this too, is is that this is all
reimbursed
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expenses. So we
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our donors to support this
in
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so that we've already done all that. All we have to do is Brevard
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Coalition is hoping to sign a contract with us by the end of January so that we can figure out how to get all the money spent and everything in place by the June 30th.
‸ So I'll just finish. Like
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say, it's a big opportunity. um But there's so many details that I think needs to be brought before the council and we really need to have this discussion. um If it's something feasible for the city. um So I'll just leave on that.
Have you talked with any of the merchants? Which merchants are you referring to? Downtown
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Village area? I
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them as well so you ‸ can know all the
ins and outs
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um sir that's what my concern would be. um There are some other concerns I do have, but I think that we'll we'll just see how things uh develop from here.
And and that's that's a good uh good point there. um So that's why I say it needs to be a robust conversation among council. um I'm not sure when you said this opportunity came about, but I wish it would have been brought in before the council. uh It
was not
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19th,
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said, January, I'm sorry. December 19th. And
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since then. Because we were looking for guidance, not knowing what steps had
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to have this conversation. You can have the merchants in the building. ‸ you can have all the citizens that want to have a say in this. um uh So I'm looking to have a more of a conversation on the details and and see if this is something that we're willing to uh engage in. so
um Councilman
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Yes, sir. uh Mr. Garganese, uh ‸ ever since he called me, I just, I'm having a little trouble with understanding why would he even need our permission to park an empty bus anyway? Like what? why Why, why would, why would he need the city's uh approval of parking of a empty bus?
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um
what's,
what's the ramifications of empty bus versus, I just, I just don't understand why would he need our
permission
And we're trying to ask the same question. And it's why we tried to contact the city on several occasions. That we, we look at it this way
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The reality of it is if you know the ins and outs of that, and I know you have council here that can give you information on this is for the reality of it is, is we could do it no matter what,
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think we can all agree. We have impacted this community in a pretty tremendous way. And when I see you all being pushed against the wall by the state, which is, I think you're being held hostage, uh for them to put a law into place with no funding whatsoever, and then tell people then a follow-up law that they can sue you. And it's going to happen.
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because an officer chose to be compassionate and not arrest somebody. And someone says, well,
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no, but
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i'm just I want to know.
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right now. I just want to know.
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understand
i understand that ‸ I understand that. I still i have a question on the
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get it.
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get That's not what he just said. so
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what my conflict is. My conflict is parking of a empty bus. Do we need approval of parking of a empty bus on a church property? That's my question. i
think you, really. need You need to know the rules so then you can make a well-informed decision.
Okay. is any So the contract ‸ he's speaking of, is ‸ any way you can forward that to us? Be glad to. tomorrow Would have done that weeks ago. Okay. Thank you.
I would do that.
Because
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empty van and or bus on church property.
i mean
That's what we're asking for.
Well, that's that's that's that's just such a routine question, right?
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Like, for example, you know I don't know the answer. I think it's commercial property. So what are the commercial on-site parking regulations? you know Those are the regulations. There's no vote of the city council that's required or any endorsement. It's whatever the regulation states. Now, if the if the property is residential, I did a quick search.
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I don't know
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parking lot. That's, again, it's a just general routine parking regulation issue. So yeah that's how I understand it. Now,
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ask is routine, and it's just whatever the zoning code provides. support taken. All right.
i think I think we all know what the concerns are. The concerns are,
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um allowing individuals to sleep on a charter bus at the facility? That's really what the the elephant in
the
room is it can is. Is that a possibility? And I i definitely understand the residents concerns
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that. I got text today about it. Some I was kind of unsure why I wasn't getting the text about because it wasn't on the agenda at all. but But I get it. That also means that people are concerned. And so that's, I'm just letting you know, you know, I'm always straight up with you to let you know what's i appreciate the ins and outs. But um people are concerned about that being a possibility. so just and And for the record...
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held hostage.
Yeah, point taken.
Okay, so um not only take this point, but take the point of it's going to go to the state and take the point that it's going to side with the state.
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Now, it may make it to Congress, uh to the Supreme Court or whatever, appealing court on a federal level. But I can almost assure you that what
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going to happen, what will happen, is that the state will side with that
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So be mindful of that. Sometimes
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but you have to be wise as a serpent to as well. And that's the point that I'm saying. I'm not intimidated about this the the lawsuit because it's not just any old lawsuit. There will be other ‸ municipalities. Our municipality will not stand by itself. And I believe in our legal representation as our municipality.
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recognition statewide. So that is the reason why I believe in him. And that's the reason why I'm asking you to see the contract in in detail. That's what I'm asking. Before you make a decision,
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That's the most accurate way. So be careful. Understand that. Because there's a lot of information that's out there. Go ahead.
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I'll i'll defer to... who'll wait to get the contract. I just had questions that should all be answered with the contract. And I'll look forward to that discussion. um Do we have... I will ask you this. Do we have any other um municipalities that have come forward with locations for parking the bus? uh
Brevard
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has shown some interest. They are talking to others. That's not part of our conversation. Okay.
Yours is just we
We would simply implement it and run it and have a place to park in our private parking lot. We don't have any intentions of sheltering anyone on those buses on our property. However, I will say this. I have to believe, and maybe I'm way off on here, that if I can get homeless people off the streets
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knowing that there's security there, paid security, armed security, okay, that will watch over those 20 people that are there that night. I ‸ think
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but I do know one thing. No matter what happens with it going, sue or no sue, I personally don't care.
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the same version of this. uh They did shoot it down and open it up. uh What I am concerned about is we can keep kicking the can down the hall, and in the meantime, we still have homeless people at an alarming rate throughout the Florida, not just here. It's everywhere. We serve 17 municipalities right now, it is it's bad everywhere, but I can tell you that it's worse where we're not at. So that's it. We just have the opportunity. They came to us.
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it,
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I'm pretty confident, and I could be wrong, again legal counsel could tell you otherwise. I don't believe we could be stopped by parking there. We have our buses there now, along with our medical bus, along with uh vans and and other. I mean, we have something like 12 vehicles parked out there now that belong to our ministry. However, we come in good faith saying, hey, we would rather be rowing in the same direction than not rowing in the same direction. Okay,
thank you.
The contract itself, separate issue.
‸ I just want to go back and clear up my comments.
uh
What I was referring to is whenever something, a big initiative like this come forth, I would appreciate, as a council member, to be able to have these conversations before the council. As as the mayor alluded to, that we need to read the contract. I haven't had an opportunity to read the contract because it hasn't come before council. So, uh anytime that the city is presented with something like this, I would appreciate, uh ‸ even if it's a hard note, we feel that we don't like this. I would love to be able to look Mr. blue in his face and say, hey, we don't want it here. At least give him an answer uh that's been, the conversation has been talked about and thought out by the council as a whole. um This isn't a one-man decision that could be made by the city manager. uh It sounds like a council policy issue. So, I would i would appreciate to be able to have these conversations with all the facts before me.
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uh mr
mayor
this is this is not a an issue that uh that uh I did not present to the city because it's not uh an issue, a contract being presented to the city. uh 1365 was passed last year. um Brevard Homeless Coalition as the as the lead agency got the money as a pass through from the state. And uh established the subcommittee of uh all the cities in the county, uh the sheriff's office, a couple of other agencies. And and we've been sitting uh in uh those meetings uh coming up with ideas to address the problem. And so this uh the Dignity Bus idea uh was presented. uh ‸ We went away from the last meeting knowing that that was on the table. We also went away knowing that uh she could uh utilize, spend the money by purchasing uh hotel rooms.
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And so this is this is, uh all of a sudden, this is your issue or something that I didn't present
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true. um so So, again, this is Amber Carroll and the Homeless Coalition going to a service provider and asking if that service provider wants to provide the services. These are not buses. These are not cars, recreational vehicles. These are mobile shelters.
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And so that makes it a little different. I don't know what his ask of me is there. I don't know what guidance I could have given him uh if he's asking if it's a matter of a zoning issue. Then I think you have to actually finally determine what's being parked what's the service that's being provided, what's potent what potentially could be the service that's being provided before you can answer any of the zoning questions
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The contract that was offered him or vice versa between Matthews Hope and the Brevard Homeless Coalition is just that. it's a it's a It's an issue between those two entities. Your issue on a policy matter is whether or not the zoning allows it, whether or not you're going to actually support that. Because,
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72 miles of county and will pick up the unhoused and will house them for the night parking in various places there. I'm not sure that that's that concept is fully developed, but again, we're here uh ‸ as a result of uh the Brevard Homeless Coalition reaching out to to one particular organization and asking them if they want to provide the services.
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it is an issue that
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should be talking about as opposed to singularly cities
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And that's how the law was written. Even the Florida League of Cities clearly indicated that from Eric Hartwell to Craig
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clearly indicated it's not municipalities issues. It's the county's issues, gentlemen. And we brought that once before. Even
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She even addressed uh that issue about
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So who they really should be going to is to those five county commissioners. The cities have they can ask the cities to participate and the city has a right to say no. But if you say no, is there repercussions? Think about that.
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that's the reason why I'm saying know the full context of it before we even talk about entertaining anything. That's that's all I'm asking. okay All right.
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okay Next,
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um so ‸ i guess my my comments have shifted just a little bit um with some of the discussion that's been going on first i want to make sure that i acknowledge that our uh
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department has been awesome it continues to grow um it's just really just a great partnership um So I always want to make sure that you know that your guys are and girls are doing very well out there and working with us. um One of the things that we're talking about, the merchants were mentioned. Okay. i i I'm a little surprised that we're we're so concerned because I really think this would benefit the merchants. You know, I've often heard discussion about the merchants saying that they come in or or they see people sleeping by their um their businesses. um Part of that, I can tell you, that when they're my guests are uh woken up in the middle of the night and they have to pick up and they have to move somewhere, chances are they may be moving their business. If you have something like this proposal, nobody has to be moved anywhere because
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So just to put that out there as well. um I ‸ understand the idea of other cities, but let me just give you a little bit of loose numbers here. Before I came in, I did a real quick glance. In the time that we've been here, we have, when I say registered, that means they come in, we get their information, they receive services. Okay. We have ‸ we have registered close to
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Everybody got that?
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When I register someone, I ask them, where did you stay last night or where
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registered have told me that
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This opportunity that's been brought before ‸ before you is an opportunity to help the very people that are here in
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So I really just wanted to make sure that you understand that although it's
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They are residents. They are here in
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thank you
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Hi, y'all.
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I'm going to just say with the
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tense feeling here, I don't really see the need in saying anything extra because Scott really addressed it all with a lot of your questions. that what I was going to say. But timing really is of the essence, and we do have to have this have some sort of decision on this pretty quickly because time time's going to run out so quickly. So if you all have any questions, just let me know. Thanks.
Shannon Diaz.
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Hi, my name is Shannon Diaz. I am the Orange County Director of
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I ‸ was homeless from 2014 to 2020. In 2020, I heard about matthews Hope through a 12-step program I was in. I came to matthews Hope broken a shell of a person. I had a hard time making eye contact. I had been clean
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riddled with trauma. I never learned proper hygiene, money management, manners, or any of the things that I'm sure many parents teach their kids. I feel my mom did the best she could with what she had, but that doesn't mean it was enough.
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What I learned through the program and the staff at matthews Hope has literally transformed my life.
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and started out as an admin in the office. So often people say, why can't they just get a job? Well, speaking as someone who was previously homeless, not knowing where I'd be able to sleep at night was a huge hurdle for me. And that was before HB 1365. With this new law in place, that is another step in the wrong direction for people who already don't have a sense of security. Maybe a good night's sleep will be just what someone needs to transform their life. So often it's easy to
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backyard. How different different would our community be if we all thought, if not I, then who? I can't imagine where I'd be if I wasn't given a chance through matthews Hope. These buses could change
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and be able to put their best foot forward after a good night's sleep, not having to worry about how this law is going to affect them.
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a step in the right direction.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, ma'am. Sarah
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Good evening, everyone. I'm here for the pathos.
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moment to speak about the anxiety and fear that our guests at matthews Hope are facing due to this House bill. For many of them,
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Imagine losing not only your home, but your ability to find a safe place to rest. With each new day, there's a looming fear of being forced to move once again, whether you've been working hard to get back on your feet or simply trying to survive. That constant disruption affects more than just where they sleep. It impacts their ability to hold down a job, stay healthy, and maintain a sense of security. For someone already struggling with the trauma of homelessness, this bill only intensifies those struggles. For those of our guests who have managed to find some stability, whether it's a temporary job, a connection with health care, or even just a sense of routine,
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to leave one location and move to another, their health deteriorates. Chronic conditions worsen because they don't have access to regular care or a stable place to rest. Their physical and mental health are impacted, making it harder to get back on their feet. Most tragically, this law erodes their trust in the very system that is supposed to protect them.
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home. But this law exacerbates that fear. It sends a message that they are unwanted, that their very existence is criminalized. Even though the police officers we work with at Matthews Hope are often compassionate and supportive, the perception of being targeted constantly under threat wears on the spirit. That's why we believe a mobile shelter like the one Matthews Hope is proposing is a critical part of the solution. It is a proven concept in cities such as Chicago. This mobile shelter will provide our guests with a stable, safe space, something that many of them haven't had in a very long time. More than just a place to sleep, it will offer them the opportunity to focus on getting back on their feet.
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For our guests, they had one bad day and they became homeless. But we've
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make all the difference. With a Dignity Bus, more individuals will have that chance to get back on track. It will offer them the breathing room they need to rest, heal, and take the next steps towards rebuilding their lives.
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through this next endeavor to help the thousands of homeless, not only in
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whole.
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Do we have any other cards, Mrs.
singer ‸ mrs
jones
Mayor, I wanted to address the council uh under a specific item.
Okay. My apologies, ma'am. Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Jones. Okay. This concludes this portion of delegations. We will proceed forward to um award Sorry. um i I did ask about awards and presentations, and I do not see any. uh Consent agenda. What are the wishes of council?
uh
motion
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unanimously okay proceeding on
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i was my apologies thank you council come forward ‸ You did submit your card.
Good evening, everybody. Good evening. And a happy new year. And 2025 is our year going forward for bigger, better things together.
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in my community, not just meaning
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but in my whole Diamond Square community. If I run into people that are disenfranchised by saying, well, I'm not going to the meetings, I'm not going to participate in Diamond Square meetings that they have because they're not going to do anything anything. And my focus in life from a child is that if you don't do anything, don't expect anything and don't complain. My issue is that I'm not going to keep beating the same issue
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but I was personally somewhat salty as to uh several documents that took quite a bit of money to give to give
to
almost every member on the council, uh different agencies on my personal issue. And the number one thing that came back to me was that um we we don't have that in the budget to help you with your issue. It's not just an issue. It's a critical issue for me and my family. But my thought on that would be if we if
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got seven to ten people on a panel, not just saying the people in front of me, just saying, say the promise keepers um or of the county, and
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you don't have the budget for this that you need and that, because it's really, my issue is really critical.
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is, but it's really critical. So what my thought and what I want to say is, that
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10, 15 people together and they say we don't have it in the budget for the city, um but this one don't have it in the budget. Okay, pieces and parts of whatever you need to get your area cleaned, to be livable for you and your children, to be able to be livable, not anything that's way off, like you want new curtains. and This is a crisis for me. But I thought about this and I've kind of rounded it off. um I think yesterday I got a call from a certain person and she relayed a message uh from the city manager and I have taken that uh as to what it is. And I i said to myself, I said, you know what, I'm gonna ‸ stop going to the meetings. I'm not gonna uh ‸ tell my neighbors, come to the meetings, voice your opinion where the
goals
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left, goes right. But ‸ you know you tried and you didn't sit down with your thumbs circling around saying, which way do we go? So I was a little
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meetings, I'm not dealing with
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But me and my personality, even though I'm still going through this issue right now, today, I say still, I'm gonna ‸ stay involved, I'm gonna ‸ stay engaged, and
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gonna ‸ work it all out for me. Thank ‸ you.
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I'll
be real quick. I just wanted to let you know, I am i just got your packages. I'm gonna ‸ look over this. uh So it's not that I'm ignoring it. I just got these packages from you today.
Just got ‸ today?
Yes, it was
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okay
Thank you.
Light, please, sir.
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so I don't want to mess up. Thank you for your patience. Public hearing, item number
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second and final reading, ordinance number 13-2024. Second reading, amended zoning ordinance of
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and limited types of commercial vehicle and heavy vehicle equipment ‸ sales, and rental to the list
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uses in the general commercial CG zoning district, and establishing conditions for such use.
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recommend approval by the City Council. December
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2024.
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but I surrender the floor to you,
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zoning
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and limited types of commercial vehicles and heavy equipment sales and the rental to the list of permitted uses in the general CG zoning district and establishing conditions for such use,
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incorporation into the code, severability and an effective day. As you know, the mayor, second and final reading, also ‸ public hearing item, no changes have been made since ‸ first reading.
Thank you,
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Mrs. Webster, ma'am.
Yes, sir. Thank you. um Staff has nothing to add and it there have been no changes since the first read.
Thank you very much. Do we have any questions for either staff here at council?
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council over to the public. Please come forward to the podium and state your name. uh You have 180 seconds to elaborate, expound, or discuss this particular item, number 13-2024. Going once, going twice. chill out and close this portion to the public and return ‸ to the council. What are the wishes of council?
Move to approve.
we
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have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks, second by Councilman
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gonna ‸ call the question
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favor by saying aye. Aye. Aye. And in a's, eyes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 6-2, ordinance number 15-2024, second and final reading of ordinance amending the official zoning map designation of 16
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8.36 acres more or less and generally located adjacent to state road 520 near the intersection of virginia
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described on exhibit a
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and retail warehouse and wholesale commercial BU-2 to the City of
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general commercial CG 2025-12.
Esquire Garganese. Okay, ordinance 15-2024, an ordinance of City Council City
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Brevard County, Florida, amending the official zoning map designation of 16 parcels of real property totaling 8.36 acres
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with Virginia Avenue, Ruth
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on Exhibit A attached here
to
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the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, severability and an effective date. This is second and final reading. Also a public hearing item of this city
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And I think nothing has changed, but I will surrender the floor to you, Mrs. Webster.
Thank you, sir.
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and staff has nothing to add.
to
the next report we
have any questions for the young lady? Saying not, Chair, ‸ like to close this portion of the council and over to the public. Please come forward and state your name on this particular item. uh 6-2 15-24 Going once. Going twice.
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portion to the public and return it to council. What are the wishes of council?
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Yeah, everybody. That's a good thing,
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Okay. All
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Second it. Mrs. um miss Monica. We
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I think it's our third and final number item for um public hearing. I think there may be a modification to this, but I'll just wait and I'll just expound on
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of an ordinance adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan
text
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amendment. Amending a policy in the future land use element related to the mixed use future land use category. Establishing the authorized uses permitted on the ground floor of a mixed use building. Such mixed use buildings being eligible for residential density bonuses generally of an additional five dwelling units per acre for vertical mixed use buildings
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projects in the very limited geographical area identified in policy 1-1-2-6 of the comprehensive plan plan and requiring a development agreement by the City Council under certain terms and conditions deemed necessary and acceptable to the City
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The proposed comprehensive plan text amendment was transmitted to the Department of Commerce
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14-2024 was approved by the City Council and it's been reviewed by the state. asquire Garganese, okay who
is
yours.
yep Ordinance number 14-2024, an ordinance of the City Council ‸ City
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County, Florida, adopting a large-scale comprehensive plan text amendment amending a policy in the future land use element. Related to the mixed use future land use category, establishing the authorized
uses
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permitted in the ground floor of a mixed use building, such mixed use building being eligible for residential density bonuses, generally of an additional
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dwelling units per acre for vertical mixed use buildings and up to 125 dwelling units per acre for vertical mixed use projects in the very limited geographical area identified in policy 1.1.2.6 of the comprehensive plan and requiring a development agreement by the City Council under certain terms and conditions deemed necessary and acceptable to the City Council for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the comprehensive plan and
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And this is an adoption hearing following um the transmittal. As you mentioned, Mayor,
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unrelated to the amendment, but we're um ‸ technical guidance on other other matters. So, this is ready for consideration for adoption.
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That is correct. There were no modifications or changes to the amendment itself, uh only that it was sent to the the Department of Commerce for review, and there were no objections received from any um of that from that agency or any other state agencies.
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yeah
yeah,
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were no technical issues. um Just referring to comments from from the state agencies that reviewed. um There were just a technical assistance comments uh remind as reminders for us. They were unrelated to the amendment and um they were just changed reminders for us uh to implement, uh incorporate changes when we do redo our comprehensive plan.
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was
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basically
like updating the water supply facilities work plan,
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related to uh
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projects and those types of issues, you know, staff intends to
deal
with at the appropriate time.
Okay. uh Well, this is the ordinance, what we had discussed it before, and I brought up before, and and still believe that the additional dwelling units that we do for mixed use is a
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Am
I getting that right? We're talking about the mixed use. This allows for mixed use that the ‸ developer could
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still receive the benefits for increased density.
That's correct. Well, so so more specifically that the the developer can is is
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and then the rest must be, you know, um non-residential use.
okay Okay. And I think
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um There's less need for commercial space or at least since
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um And overall, I really don't have a problem with it except for the Bank of America building, which is what is really driving us to do this now, because that is such a key piece of property in
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Village. And having that vibrant and having that that commercial space available that is really a benefit to
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which would increasingly or would privatize it more, that space. um So, you know, I still feel darn because I would support this otherwise, but for that particular property, and I know we're going to do a specific development agreement for that, but given the fact that that's what's driving this Anyway, I feel like it's a loss for the citizens and for the village
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its vibrancy, which is why we want that property developed. So that's all I have to say on it.
Deputy Mayor
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I just wanted to say um as uh that particular property, ‸ there's no saying that whoever develops it would do any residential on the first floor because to me it would make more sense for them to do all commercial on the first and have the residential up. So i I'm in favor of it because I feel like they would probably want to utilize all the first
floors
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commercial. So that's all I have to say. yeah
I'm just going to it is a framework group that purchased the property and
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They are looking at um using part of that for private to serve those that are renting those apartments. And of course, all of it is dependent on the development agreement. but Yeah.
‸ You know,
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and especially the downtown area for the demand that they request, right, Councilman? Former Councilman Greenwood? and All the other businesses and our entrepreneurs? We must generate a revenue to cover their services. And I'm a firmer and believer in this. And if we build constructively, but more so than anything else that is aesthetically pleasing to the eye to support the downtown area and it's foot patrol, I'm in favor of it. So, Chair ‸ like to close this portion to Council ‸ open to the public. Please come forward and state your name if you have any concerns on this particular item. Going once. Going twice. Chair ‸ like to make a motion to approve staff recommendation. ‸ got me.
Second.
Second by
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so
just
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gonna call the question. All in favor of saying aye. Aye.
all
right
There you got me. Any nays? Nay. Here we
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Madam Clerk? ‸ All right. Thank you very much, ma'am. Proceeding on
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Okay. This is you, Mrs. Jones. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. And I do apologize to you, and miss Nita, I ‸ got your cards crossed. My apologies. um
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to foster the growth of small
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budget adjustment to rollover allocated funds from previous years,
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Yes, sir.
ma'am um
Yes. So this is making, um is requesting approval to make some adjustments to our Upstart program. um and I'll just go over the few adjustments that we would like to make. um and then I just want to
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the amount should
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make that note as well. um so the
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the adjustments that we're seeking, um one is just an, uh easy name change on the, uh resolution. We, it, uh refers to the Office of Economic Development, which it's not the Office of Economic Development anymore. It's the Communication and Economic Development Department. So, i'm just making some minor changes on that. and then we are suggesting, um and when I say we, I did list in here the, the committee that was set forth. um the committee has discussed these changes, um and is suggesting these changes. So, um and I don't think we have anybody from the committee that's here today. um so we are requesting that we change the eligible business. Originally, it was a brand new business. It had to be a brand new business. um and we would like to change that to less than three years old. um because as we all are familiar and know, may know, most businesses tend to not succeed in the first three years. um
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that still needs assistance, may still need the coaching from we venture or whatever service provider we have, um and still be able to utilize those services and be a successful business in the city of
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um
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less than five years old. And the reason for the difference in the Diamond Square area
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for, for businesses to lease in the Diamond Square area. um so we have ‸ we're having a hard time with businesses right now that are brand new finding locations in Diamond Square.
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is if there is a business that is possibly four years old in the Diamond Square area, they already have a location. Let's assist them. Let's make sure that they stay in business. Let's make sure that they succeed. um and so that's why we are, we are asking to make that adjustment to the Diamond Square area just because of the lack of available properties to lease. um
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um again, they can get their feedback from the committee, um make adjustments as needed, and then come back and reapply for the program instead of one year. um Removing the requirement to submit a business plan with the application. um We have asked we venture to provide us with questions in the application that would serve as the business plan. What we were finding is that most businesses that submitted their applications and their business plans, they weren't really business plans anyway. So what she did is she kind of broke down that ‸ business plan and put it into questions that we could get useful information from them. And then the we venture program is there to help them create that business plan. um So we just felt there wasn't really a need to have it at the beginning of this application process. um
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the eligible expenses that the businesses could apply for was
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We, as we all know, we have multiple chambers in this area.
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of Commerce. So we just wanted to add those in there as well as eligible
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um Excuse me. And then we met with ‸ a representative from the Small Business Development Council that is located at Eastern Florida State College. um
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with our applicants prior to them coming to, before the committee.
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and ready for their committee meeting.
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be helpful for the applicants to be able to sit down with this person from the SBDC and discuss um
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when they come before the committee. What are the things they need to um know about their business and be ready to answer questions? um So we would like to add that as a prerequisite. Once we get the applications, we will work with them to set an appointment with someone from the SBDC who will meet with them and get them ready and prepared for their committee meeting.
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um that the council uh appoint set the committee. um But it is a way for us to get our applicants a little bit more prepared and ready for the process of sitting down with the committee um and answering questions that that they're going to ask. um So those are the things that we are asking for. um And then again, the budget amendment is there to help us. We had um a few years where we didn't allot any budget um because people didn't complete the process, the the we venture process and come forth asking for the remainder of the loan. um So we have some budget to roll over. So to be able to to um equal us out for the people that we do have in the pipeline right now, we are asking for that budget
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available to answer any questions that you all might have.
Staff, council, do we have a question for Mrs. Sanger? Okay, I see a light on
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I think so there's two things that stood out to me that could be very successful for a lot of business, which is number three, allowing eligible
businesses
to reapply
to the program. Because
we know that some businesses do not come in prepared. That's their first time, you know, going for a grant such as this from the city. And I think this allows them another opportunity in a shorter period of time. So I think that's a good thing. And then
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are completing the we venture program. That is big because we know it was a little shaky at the beginning. uh
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of it. um But but to have four applicants in the program um looking to complete the program is is a beautiful thing. ‸ if you look all across the county, you really don't see a program such as this from other municipalities. So for us to be committed to other businesses is it's really a good thing. So um that's the only comments that I have.
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And
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Deputy Mayor Weeks. Yeah,
I just wanted to say I love the uh fact that you are going to have them meet with the small business development. Because before
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I met with them and uh wrote my business plan and did all those things. And they were so helpful. And so I just love that because that really gets you on the right path. So that's awesome. And
we have a great committee too. We have a very dynamic, diverse committee of people who have been very helpful. um And I think this is a great way to kind of set them and get them ready for the committee. so
It's awesome. Thank you.
Mrs. Jones,
‸ please?
No.
Good evening,
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uh
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and taxpayer of this great city, I am deeply invested in the decisions that affect our community. Additionally, I am here representing the Space Coast Black Chamber of Commerce as president and CEO. I appreciate this opportunity to address ‸ you on matters that are ‸ great importance to both our citizens and local businesses.
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we hold a public forum to allow taxpayers to voice their opinions and provide feedback. Furthermore, inviting past applicants to share their experiences with the process can offer valuable insights. As a resident, I believe that informed decision making by our council members is essential to the success of this program. As the president of the Space Coast Black Chamber of Commerce, I wish to bring to your attention an email I sent to this entire body on December 29, 2024. In the email, I requested a special meeting to address the conflict of interest in the Upstart
coco
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Minority Small Business Program. The email contained detailed information obtained through public records requested from the city clerk and other city staff. the
email and other city staff
Each of you has sworn an oath to act ethically. Moving forward with any changes to this program without first addressing the outline complaints would be contrary to that oath. As a whistleblower, I have brought these issues to light, and I urge you to consider them seriously before proceeding. Thank you for your attention and consideration to these important matters to residents and advocates like me. Thank you. Thank
you,
Mrs. Jones.
Do we have any other cards out? Saying none. What are the wishes of council?
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Mayor Weeks.
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Administrative Services Director. Ma'am.
Yes, sir. This is an annual item that we do, that we normally bring in January of every year. So that allows the city clerk to set the calendar for the year and help staff plan for special meetings. And ‸ helps us cancel holiday meetings that take place at the end of end of the year. I just wanted to add, after this item was created, there was a couple things brought to our attention that we wanted to point out. One of them was we were requesting to cancel the first meeting in March. And after that, it was pointed out that there's also
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that will conflict with our second meeting in march and per our city charter we're required to have one meeting a month so um so i think that'd be best for council to discuss the march meetings um as a whole um
so we need one we need
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i had planned
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but that would be on the 20 unless
i mean oh no that
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so okay
okay let me read this caveat special meetings may be called by the mayor or the city manager from time to time as may be required
yes sir
‸ that gives us ‸ flexibility so that's the reason why i'm saying to you um you know that caveat is a way that we can still navigate and still maybe have a meeting maybe three in the month of
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doesn't have to be a a meeting that's going to be 25 items or whatever the case may be. Yes, Mr. City Manager. But
you got to have at least one ‸ Per month.
And I understand that. ‸ Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm just saying out of the four, I mean, two per month, normally two per month, maybe one of those. Yes. And if we do something during the month of March, ladies and gentlemen, I'm thinking maybe the latter part of March.
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flexible.
I'm flexible. Well,
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Friday
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in
there. Right.
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I'm
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Great American
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I'm thinking, well, it's look at your calendars. What does February, I mean, no, March the 17th through the 18th looks like? What do you have on the 18th?
oh
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it at Orchid Lakes, the town hall that did not go so well last October. So, but we could make that the meeting and I can try to rearrange that
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hear you, so we'll have one regular, or we'll have a special council meeting the month of march and we'll make it for 6 p.m on march 18th which is a Tuesday.
Correct. Okay. ‸ So
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And then another um thing that was found after this item was published was we had put in here to schedule a state of the city meeting for Tuesday, October 14th. um ‸ that was a typo because that meeting actually falls on a regular meeting um of a council. So this text was copied from last year's item and um and so that
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uh
mr
Mayor and council members, that's that's me. quick That's me attempting to do the the state of the city because I just like that format. um We can come back. uh Later and ask, look look at the calendar and ask uh about that meeting. You don't have to do that tonight. so
Okay.
yeah We can bring that back another time.
um
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it received some event uh notifications
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coming up. I just wanted to make sure none of those dates conflicted with that. I know we are all right
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there's something that's coming up like next month or so.
uh ‸ I believe it's October 22nd through the 24th. I need to ‸ There's
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Okay.
So that shouldn't conflict with
anything. Okay.
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We do have European Americans and our organization. And we have one for my Latin brothers too and
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too
as well.
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oh okay. Where's the meeting at?
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read-in at Saturn Elementary on the
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No. I
got a letter from her.
Okay. That should complete um everything. So we're requesting y'all to um to approve the dates that we requested and cancellations with those changes um that we notated um
um
from the mistakes that were in the item. So that would give us the meeting in March, March 18th and um and removing the state of the city that was
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You need a motion, right ma'am? Move. Move move to approve. We have a motion. ‸ changes. We have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks to approve the motions that have been stated and and amended and a second by Councilman Goins. Was that you, sir? Yes. uh No. That was you,
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sorry, sir. Pardon me. I'm like Granny and Beverly
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Speaking ‸ my good
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All in favor by saying aye. Aye. aye In the nays, eyes have ‸ unanimously. Man, I'm telling my age. I'm proud
of it.
Our final item for
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related to
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Let me be first to say that um the
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was in. Fire Assessment
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Excuse me, 2019. Did I say 2026? My apologies. May 20th. Excuse me. May 2016 the year 16. okay and these billing fees are assessments that are included at the adoption of each annual budget. Do
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a motion to approve?
Second.
And have a second on the floor by Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye.
Aye. aye
Any nays? eyes have it unanimously. Thank you, Madam Director. Mrs. Rebecca
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Thank you.
Okay. Information. You can see that. report You can see that. It's the City Manager.
Thank you, thank you Mr. Mayor. so Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.
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two reports tonight. I'll just note to you, and I think you probably noticed the
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‸ And so we have
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Okay.
I mean, I'm gonna ‸ go first because mine's pretty easy. I just wanted to remind everybody that um but we have our economic development event tomorrow. uh It's our business showcase and economic development event. um And that is at uh
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o'clock at the
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Civic Center tomorrow. uh
uh and
then
And
then I have something pretty quick as well. um I am pleased to announce that the uh historic uh renovation and restoration of the windows and doors at the Harry T. Moore Center where
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that were paid for through a grant through the uh state and uh we finished it and it is absolutely beautiful. um We are excited to have those windows and doors in. uh The the best thing about it is is it will improve the energy efficiency of the building. um it'll improve and decrease some of the issues that we had with those windows that were installed in the 70s and 80s and and really improve the look of the building. So we're excited about that.
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with the new windows and doors, just please let me know and i'll be more than happy to uh meet you over there and and take you on a tour. Thank
you very much. question yes ma'am um when is it going to be open to the public or is it now or what hours it's
open by appointment only they have to contact ryan brown okay and and then we schedule time for folks who are interested in visiting the center
is there plans eventually to have it open to the public and have a curator or funding oh always yes yes and could you could charge people which is one way to bring money in as well correct
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over okay definitely i'd rather be honest with you uh i'm not saying that is a good idea traditionally it would work but let me uh hey
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that's uh i'll just say it that way okay okay If it was on Michigan Avenue by the beam by the pole. okay
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uh to be ambassadors to ‸ help us uh provide uh tours inside the museum and uh and work with uh visitors who would like to see the inside. Okay, wonderful. Thank you.
mr Mayor, you
you
you reminded me that and I think we sent the notice out to you and you'll see it uh publicized that the Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization was awarded approximately
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million in rail crossing elimination grants for seven rail crossings
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better news
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those crossings. And so that's to make the crossings um uh safer. um Remember we talked about uh that. the uh And so we have three of the crossings there. I forget ‸ exactly where where those
crossings are,
but that's a that's a big deal for us. uh It's Michigan Avenue, Dixon Boulevard, and West Highlands Drive. ‸ i think that's it for us, sir.
Okay, sir. Thank you. Okay,
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No report. Okay, who goes first this time, uh ‸ Councilman Hearns? is it Evens, two
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first.
The floor is yours, man
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so I'll be looking at another date for that. um And the High Point Association meeting I'll be attending next Monday. um That was last week, but it was canceled because it was so chilly.
‸ Their
annual
meeting. ‸ So,
and that's all I have. Happy New Year to everyone. Looking forward to working with you
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um Okay. This photo right here is located in District
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um Over the weekend, I took it upon myself to drive through my district. Took me about 20 minutes to drive through the whole district. Even drove through a little bit of District
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and District
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And this was a common theme here. It wasn't as bad as this, but
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where there's similar situations like this. um ‸ Some of those situations look like uh
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But uh a few of those photos that
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me, this is just blatant ‸ disregard um for the city of
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um And I just tell you as a council member, especially as a representative for District
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I'm not going to stand for this anymore. I would love to see uh action taken swift action taken as far as some kind of penalty. um Clearly this is done by the landlord. um we you know
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uh for you to allow something like this. This wasn't done by the residents. This is done by the property owner. um So I'm hoping that we uh we can come as a council with some kind of policy to allow uh enforcement to take swift action into uh adding penalties on situations like this. um I don't
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right.
So, um other than that, yeah, this is becoming a big issue, especially in my district. um I saw a little bit in other districts as well this weekend. I don't know how bad it is.
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You go down another street over on Hillcrest. It's it's probably twice as bad as this. um like Like I said, I have 43 photos, which is 43 properties. uh Similar situations here. And um something has to be done. I receive, I'm receiving ‸ phone calls even from uh residents that's not in my district.
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and uh It's not
funny, but I've been there. I know what it's like. You know,
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oh ‸ you just just hit every street on this on uh off of
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Boulevard, you'll see a
situation
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seeing this as well. And um it just gives an appearance that we're
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a blind eye to it. Which brings me back to something I've been harping on for the past few meetings. I would love for
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to be uh some kind of sticky note sticker or something posted in every city vehicle. um ‸ not making it mandatory, but at least letting our employees know if you rock past something like this, call it in, make a note of it, send an email to proper uh personnel. um You know, like I said, I took it upon myself in my personal vehicle. I don't get reimbursed for gas. And I drove through and saw so much of this. um I think as a as a employee here, you should have the same care as the residents here. You see something like this, don't just drive by it. um there's also, another issue that I've seen that comes from issues like this, we have meter readers that meet or they read the water uh meters. There's no way they're going to be able to read a meter with this here, so that that's holding up city business. So uh that's all I have for District
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‸ respond just to that? because um Yeah, two weeks ago, actually, it was uh New Year's Eve. Got a call from Mr. Wilson, maybe you did too. And uh everybody ‸ because I'm on the other side of uh Dixon, you know, that's Pine Ridge on the other side as well. So, and I drive through, you know, the whole district. And that Pine Ridge area in particular, just about every block had a pile of furniture, discarded furniture, other items. I think it's after the Christmas season. And maybe people don't realize, but of course, Mr. Wilson is on it. And um he has every right to be. You know, he keeps his yard well. And uh several of those piles have been sitting there for quite some time. So, um if we could be more proactive, that would be really helpful. Because
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biggest complaint I get as well.
Yes, sir.
um I think a policy change uh such as making it mandatory for uh landlords.
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I know we don't have technically a list of every individual resident that has um a rental property. We don't,
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technically, we really don't know. uh you you have that, but you have some individuals that don't go through that BTR process. But when we see this amount of trash out there, we know more than likely this is a eviction situation. And so, when when code enforcement sees this, we may we need to have something in place that we make it mandatory.
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of a service to remove these items. Because waste management is not picking that up. That's not going to happen. Not
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it being all strolled over the whole yard. And
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seeing this everywhere. Because
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they going through the draw trying to see what they can get out of it. Because most likely the people wasn't home. They changed the locks. They just threw everything out. And so, um I think that's maybe an action that's something that we can do right away. Because just putting a notice out there right then may still keep the the trash out there for another two months.
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at ‸ apartment complex right next to the church. We've been seeing that for years. When they evict somebody, it stays out there for a long time.
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you know just this morning uh when I went by there as well. And something that we can, they have to get something or a company to remove that debris from the side of the road. And so maybe that's something next meeting or a meeting in the future we can come up with. what we need to We need whatever that is, or maybe look at another city, to see what they have for landlords and or apartments,
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because ‸ I don't believe we have anything like that um inside of our ordinance.
I just wanted to respond to that if I might for a moment. um I will say that uh many landlords that do the eviction, um they do put it out by the road, uh but it behooves them to get it cleaned up because nobody's going to want to rent that apartment
point taken
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there are things in leases that um that they can't just dispose of it. There is a time period
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uh that, that stuff leaves out because many times the person who's evicted comes back to get some of their stuff. through So there's that as well.
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But I agree. It looks horrible sitting out there like that. um but there are other factors at play as well. So where's the medium on that? I don't know.
Yeah. okay
Okay.
Okay. Thank you. um so I did call the city manager. I know he followed up with waste management, but
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at because I explained, of course they need to call in get it
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picked
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not calling somebody better pick it up anyway. So, um I don't know. Did waste management respond to our request to clean up Pine Ridge?
Yes, ma'am. As a matter of fact,
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uh on the topic, topics of bulk and yard waste, uh pickup there. So, so we, we had, uh that discussion.
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um
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It's, it's the, thing it's
a regular pickup. So it would be a regular yard waste ‸ Yeah.
a Regular yard waste pickup. ‸ And so what that is, is, is that, um you wouldn't have to call in bulk yard waste. You would, uh it would just simply be scheduled just like your recycle and your trash. uh there's a cost associated with that. So, so again, we will bring that back to you. um Samantha, I forget the things we ‸ talked about this morning in terms of solutions. So help me out.
Yeah. I mean, they, they specifically mentioned, we,
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when we bring to their attention, they are going through and focusing. They have made it a point to have their drivers try to make note of some of the areas when they're driving through, if they notice it to make ‸ note of it to come back when, when they do have the service. So they are doing things to try to address some of ‸ the issues that we've been bringing up.
And I think on our side,
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in code enforcement.
Yes, we just hired, uh two new uh code officers. So, uh we'll be able to be in a position to be a little bit more proactive. Yeah. And so the
combination of, being fully staffed in code enforcement. And again, we, we do a lot in terms of uh of, uh public works and what they do, but maybe the combination of, uh those two agencies. And, and again, I'm going to bring back to you their price proposal on the regular, regular yard waste pick up there. But, but again, I think we're going to have a better, better ability to actually, um pass along, um instances like that, either put them in our system or put them in the waste management system so that they can get taken care of more expeditiously. I
want to say thank you all for, um
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We had a lot of, debris, green waste there from the storm and it's clear now. I can see clearly now. So yes, and it was a lot, but you all responded immediately. Over there by ‸ fire station number one by
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Right. People got the right information. Kudos to you. So yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. um yes, it's accountability and we're going to get through it. It's a work. It's an ongoing working project. Period point blank. ‸ who's turning is it yours okay anybody
there?
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Okay, where do I push first?
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Right. it's on here
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there? oh
that's that wrong picture first. oh there we are. Okay, so Lorraine and I went to the Rotary. um oh
‸ I forgot about ‸ Yeah,
the Rotary dinner. And um so uh that was their hundred year, right? Hundred years of the Rotary. So we attended that. I i attended on your behalf,
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then um
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I went to the uh police, the Christmas police lunch and uh stepped in and spoke to the folks there and thanked them very much for their uh for their fine work that they do
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picture, but I don't know why I don't have it. So if you have one of the ones that was taken, I'd appreciate you sending it my way because I sure would like that. um
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old. wow.
wow and
Doesn't she look good for 92?
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the turkey. So we had to set it there to take the picture, but that's okay. And uh then this is another lady who very, very poor health. And she was so happy to get the turkey.
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that I know who got a turkey as well. And uh this is another widow lady who got a turkey. So they were all very happy. So this was just four of the ones that um it felt so good to to be able to help folks out like that. And then went to the uh to the fun day at the community center. And, of course, the mayor and I were there. I did not know they had cheerleaders and basketball and all that. I learned so much that day.
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And um there's the cheerleaders. They did some performing. They had crafts. And these are some of my grandchildren, some other kids that were in there doing crafts. And
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They were so cute, it was so creative. And, of course, I have to show pictures of my grands and the other So there were four of them there. And uh so, anyway, that's uh all I had. But it was um um those were benchmarked between the holidays. and uh so And I want to tell everybody happy new year and thank you to all the staff at City Hall. ‸ y'all do a phenomenal job
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by how you all do your jobs and how wonderful you've been since I've been on the council. So thank you all very much.
uh
And the council, too. ‸ I mean, you know.
I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm sure you want to say something, councilman, ‸ go ahead, man. You can take my time. That's fine. it's really
it's to the mayor, because I know he he made a phone call to, I believe, most of us about the turkey. And so I just wanted to let him know and the council know, but him more specifically, um because of the phone call um to me about the turkeys,
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um
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And so that one phone call from you to us about handing out turkeys really opened up resources for those two that they were they had you know had a little pride issue that they didn't really want to go out and reach out and ask for ‸ help. But because of that phone call, something that was simple um to us uh
really
helped out a whole family. So I wanted just to, i i I'm glad you had those pictures. It kind of, you know, went out went out of my head. But I really appreciate that phone call. And sometimes we don't realize little things uh can mean so much to other people. So, yes, I just wanted to bring that up.
uh
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You have something allocated. I know you were not present at the time, but you were in the form.
So, because
I know someone did their due diligence and I'm just
leaving
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it like that. Teamwork makes the dream work, man. That's what it's all about. um We as council, we as
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But everyone, I can guarantee you that sits here and in the audience, but um our
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about timing. and And I believe in TTP. TTP means trust the process. If you trust the process, in the end, it will reward you. So I'm a firm believer in that.
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your thing. To the advocates to lifting heavy equipment. To to to to the stadium, to the community. to We got to have that liquid gold. To administrative secretaries even all the way down to the
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i thank you all all employees of the great city of
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because we're getting out of here before
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o'clock.
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going
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minutes with your...
I'm not even going to do that.
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Go in peace.
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sir. Motion to adjourn
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Thank you. Go in
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