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Interim Economic Development.
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Can you see if ‸ your microphone is on?
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of us are
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hearing you well.
[00:02:01] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
Is that any better?
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Oh, yeah.
[00:02:06] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
My name is Bryant Smith. I'm the Public Works Director and City Engineer. I'm also the Interim Growth and Economic Development Director right now, so I'll be presenting this item before you. What you have is a consideration of a special exception within the CBD zoning district to allow a bar or lounge use without a package store. One thing I do want to note within the agenda item, ‸ it does say CBD,
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Those are two different districts. Similar uses. That's just a typo. It is the CBD district that this is within. And that's what you can see here on this first sheet up here, the exhibit. It's showing the location. This is at 226 King Street. So it's
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there. And then, Joanna, if you want to go to the next slide as well. Within the agenda packet, there's ‸ a number of criteria that staff reviews as part of the application from the applicant, a number of items including ‸ safety, ingress, egress, trash services, and things like that. Through that review, staff felt ‸ that this application met all of the requirements for those. And that's one of the items that I wanted to show up here just because
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all familiar with this area being between the pairs.
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locations. So it's in staff's opinion that there's ‸ ample public parking. One area is actually adjacent to the building itself.
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And so most of these crosswalks are all at signalized intersections with actual pedestrian signals. So people who are coming to and from this establishment will have the ability to park south of 520 and safely use these crosswalks to get to and from. That along with the State Road 520 improvements that are going to be coming up here within the next 12 months, we're going to see increased lighting through this corridor as well, which will further enhance those crosswalks and ‸ pedestrian mobility through the area.
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little over 27,000 square feet. This particular use is in an area of about 3,200 square feet.
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There's a number of bar lounge uses that are immediately surrounding this as well. And that's another reason why staff feels that this would be appropriate to grant this special exception here as well as it's been granted in other locations. The applicant is here as well to answer any questions related to the project. But with that, staff is ‸ seeking approval or recommending approval to the board for this special exception with the conditions that are listed at the end of the report.
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I have a question. Yeah. Does ‸ that current zoning just not allow that use?
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[00:05:28] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
So it's a permitted use. It's the way it works is you have principal permitted uses. And I know Kristen can elaborate more on this. But you have principal permitted uses where they don't need to come to the board. And then you have permitted uses that are only granted through special exception. And the reason for that is to be able to review the criteria that's in the package, whether it be a safety item or any of that criteria that's within that. And it allows the board to kind of make that decision if they feel maybe something's in an inappropriate location due to ‸ some concern that's within that criteria that's stated.
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Thank you.
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Does anyone else have a question for Brian?
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Brian, what is the capacity of this area for people to be in there at one time? What's the max capacity? Do you know?
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that question.
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be sworn in?
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Raise your right hand, please.
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The question was, what is the occupancy limit on the building? And what is the ‸ expectation of the usage from an occupancy standpoint?
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‸ The aid, the occupancy
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would be
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143.
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Did you say 143? Yes.
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Sorry.
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know that you've sworn yourself in.
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okay. Come
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you.
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Yes, ma'am. For inside of it.
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Correct.
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I have a question just because I don't understand the business at all.
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would be? Or is it a people are coming for ‸ an evening sort of thing? I'm wondering what kind of rotation there would be?
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So the TV is entertainment. There is no live entertainment.
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they'll have their drinks. A sporting event may be on the TV or again, music may be on, but
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be at a moderate level because they have to interact while they're doing their
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And I assume I know the
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to this question, but just to clarify, this is not there. There is no food
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service, correct?
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Okay.
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Are there any other questions for the applicant?
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I'm sure it's stated here somewhere and I saw it. What are the hours?
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We'll
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open up around 4 for happy hour for people that get off work, want to come in for a drink because it will be beer, wine, and soft drinks as well up until 11, 12. And then the weekend, it'll be around from 2 p.m. to 2 a.m. typically because you have people that come out early during the day for activities.
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so that allows for us to cater to both parties.
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wine or are you going for a full liquor license? As
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of now, it's
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beer and wine.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Are there any other questions? If you would like to take a seat, I'm sure we'll be talking to you more. We will listen to anyone from the audience that wants to speak to the issue. And let's take the pros first or the cons first or does it make a bit of difference? It doesn't make a difference. Okay. Um, we have a, we have two emails from people who were not able to be in attendance and they are proponents of the business.
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there's actually three. There's one on the back of the packet. Thank you. I did not see that one. There's two pro, one against, I think.
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Okay. I, ‸ my apologies. I did not get that far.
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Okay. Um.
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Well. The only card that we have for someone wanting to speak from the audience is from Candace Rogers. Would you like to come speak?
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classification as a bar. Because,
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know, there's salad bars, taco bars. I had no idea on the announcement what kind of bar this is. So what I understand now is a hookah bar. But it will include alcoholic beverage. So,
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guess then it would be considered a bar.
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‸ Yes. It's, it's bar as defined within the city code.
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Because the parking, in my opinion, if it's a bar, the parking spaces required are much greater than if it was just a retail or a service store. So, how
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Okay. So, I'm correct on that.
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they're exempt.
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I don't believe there's anything specific.
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Yes. Okay.
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Don't even come close.
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There is a church.
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which is on the next street. And it is right across the street. So, I think there is an issue there. That was all that I really wanted to say, is that I wanted to understand what the business was. If the parking was correct, the safety issue, of
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I lived here. And probably within the last three months, I've had my life nearly taken on the five
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I mean, what was it, about three weeks ago when we had
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Yeah. I was right in front of the truck that nearly slammed into me and veered around. Coming in and out of this area, the sight lines are very poor. So, my concern is for safety. If you're pulling out and you nearly have to be in, if you're going to go west on 520, you nearly have to be in that lane that's coming at you. So, I am concerned that your ability to have good judgment when you're in that kind of situation is quite concerning. So, I think we need to consider that we don't violate another code where there is a church
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And they have four services per week. So, they're not just a nameplate. Other than that, if it was just strictly a
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I don't care. But once we start involving alcohol, then I do begin to become concerned because we basically don't have any safety down there in that area. And even though
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because that's what I think we're doing with the 520,
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So, I've gone
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But for true safety, nothing has really changed. And
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We also have cards submitted from Danita Davis. Would you like to come up to the podium, state your name, be sworn in, and speak?
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Raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
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Yes.
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Thank you very much.
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I was born here.
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to a lot of different locations, you know. I've also actually been to that specific area before, and I've never had an issue with traffic or anything else. So I think it's with the parking that's there, it's very ample parking. And I do believe that this particular location and lounge that's coming will bring about good vibes, good energy, and it's something good and relaxing. I wouldn't necessarily consider it a place where people are going to sit there and drink uncontrollably because that's not the type of function that it is. It's not your typical bar where people go to get drunk. It's going to go in, ‸ you're going to have hookah, ‸ you're going to be able to order a drink.
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And then you'll probably sit there for maybe like 30 minutes or an hour, socialize with your friends. If there's a game that's on, you're going to watch the game, and then you're going to leave. It's not going to be the type of place where you're just going to sit there all day and get drunk to where you're going to be impaired.
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to monitor everything that's going to be going on. So it will be monitored.
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And.
[00:18:07] Speaker 2
Thank you very much. You're
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welcome.
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I'm actually
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the adjacent building on Willard.
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the property. We actually, there's an adjacent public parking lot right next to our building with a lot of overgrown landscaping, which blocked the
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know completely what you're referring to. We have our landscape crew actually takes care of that city parking lot to maintain visibility and make sure that everyone coming, ‸ going out of ‸ parking lot can clearly see. We also have a maintenance and trash crew that come in and clean up that public parking lot every other day and make sure that it appears neat and tidy. And mostly because we want to be good neighbors.
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want to be the neighbor that when you come to one of our buildings that you see and you have a really nice experience.
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it's not
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overgrown landscaping. So, we're really proud of what we've done at this building and what we're improving. We've worked very, very hard to find the best quality tenants we can, and we are so excited to have Jimmy and Simone as part of our building
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that they're really going to add a lot of value to this area and to our building.
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[00:20:12] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, I'll let you finish, and then I can address that.
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Okay, good.
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but I do a lot of this type of work, so I was like, hmm, that doesn't sound right. And then also, too, on 520, if you're familiar with all the improvements, we've met with the project managers out there because it will affect the portions of our right-of-way in front of the building, and they are incorporating a lot of traffic calming, and the improvements to 520 is really going to enhance this area and the walkability of the overall downtown and connectivity, which is important to us, back to the core of the village. And so I am available to approve property owners with any other questions.
[00:20:56] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I have a question, if you don't mind. Looking at the picture that's on the screen, and I don't know if you can see it very well, my personal crusade is trash management in the village. And I read in your application that there is an existing dumpster on the property, and I was looking at the photo, and I can't see it. And can you describe to me where it is off of this photograph?
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So actually, these people are going to be having to carry their trash from this building to...
[00:21:58] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No, it's right there.
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mean, it's right at the edge of the...
[00:22:05] Speaker 3
Right here.
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So it's the... Right
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there is a trash can.
[00:22:09] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ It's in that corner.
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It's in that corner right there. Okay.
[00:22:13] Speaker 11
Thank you. Yeah.
[00:22:17] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
And I can address... So ‸ the church rule, that does not apply within the CBD district. There is no minimum distance requirement outside of that zoning district.
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[00:22:29] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
But ‸ either way in this situation, it doesn't apply here. And I would just echo the 520 improvements. There are some pretty significant safety improvements that are coming through this corridor, including lane reductions, lighted intersections, and things of that nature. I'm very
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[00:22:55] Speaker 2
Any questions of the owners? Then I bring it back to the board.
[00:23:11] Speaker 9
Then I move that we approve this project
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I don't know why that's so loud. With the stipulations that the staff has recommended.
[00:23:25] Speaker 12
Second.
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Do we have a second? Is the board ready to discuss further or vote on the...
[00:23:37] Speaker 13
Chairman? Motion? I have a question to throw out there for the board. The petitioner or ‸ the city is recommending that we allow a bar and lounge, which is kind of a... Open door to many types of bars and lounges. I would recommend that a motion would specify... This is for a hookah lounge... Serving beer and wine.
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evolving into something that we didn't really approve of. And that could happen very easily because the blanket is a bar and lounge. Well, there's many different ways you can have a bar and lounge.
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Or ‸ just to
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And create a new motion that would be more specific.
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[00:24:55] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Because I believe everything they said is pretty clear. If at some point they were to switch over and decide to get a liquor license, I think that still doesn't change the overall atmosphere of the bar and lounge very much based off of... They said this is an upscale establishment. They said that it's going to be a... You stay for a certain amount of time. I just want to see through your eyes. What are you wanting to negate or not happen in that building?
[00:25:19] Speaker 13
Well, actually, I'm not trying to negate anything. What I'm trying to do is that the information we are being provided with the staff report describes a hookah lounge. We are approving a hookah lounge that serves beer and wine. I'm not excluding anything or anybody. But the only information we have is limited to a hookah lounge that serves beer and wine.
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[00:25:48] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's the
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conflict. So there is a conflict built into the system. It's ‸ almost...
[00:25:56] Speaker 4
Like, so does it have to be another use?
[00:25:58] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
Do you have to create a use? So the bar and lounge use is specific to alcoholic beverages, and that's what's being considered here. In terms of hookah, cigar shops, smoke shops, you know, whatever type of shop or ‸ lounge that may ‸ be, our code doesn't consider those separately. It doesn't carry it within bar lounge. It's really carried, in our opinion, under personal services or professional services. And ‸ that's how other municipalities, ‸ they go back and forth, how ‸ they separate that out. But there's not a specific zoning category within the city ‸ for a smoke lounge or anything like that.
[00:26:36] Speaker 3
I have
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a question. I have a question, probably for our attorney. Can we make a motion, make that this motion is specifically for this application, these owners and this specified usage?
[00:27:03] Speaker 14
Yes, I think you could do that. Based on the fact that they have applied in a certain ‸ way, they have provided you certain information. So I think ‸ you could do that as a condition if you like.
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determine is for a bar lounge as defined, ‸ which is based on alcoholic beverage consumption.
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[00:27:37] Speaker 2
been clear on this. Is this another one of those instances that if we grant the alcohol usage, it stays with the building?
[00:27:48] Speaker 14
It does. Special exceptions do run ‸ with the land. So if it was a different owner, that wouldn't change the fact the special exception was granted. However, one of the conditions that was recommended by staff and that was included in the motion is that if it were to be discontinued for a period of six months or more, the special exception would automatically terminate. So if it were to sit vacant, for example, ‸ the special exception would terminate in that circumstance.
[00:28:22] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
But continuous use would keep it going.
[00:28:25] Speaker 14
Correct.
[00:28:27] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So there's really not much point in making this exception for this owner if indeed the exception stays with the property. Okay.
[00:28:41] Speaker 14
Yeah. I mean, yes, the, the, um, I mean,
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[00:28:51] Speaker 14
and then the next, uh, owner would then be bound to do the same type of, of business that they've, they've submitted. Um, if you like to do that, but ‸ again, the, the focus here is on alcoholic beverage consumption, because that's how we've defined borrow lounge in the code.
[00:29:13] Speaker 2
What's the preference of the board?
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[00:29:21] Speaker 9
it was recommended by the, by the, um, staff. I don't see a need personally to try and put more restrictions on it, especially because it goes, you know, if it sits empty for six months, uh, then the special exception goes away. And so for me, I think, uh, that it's, they're serving beer and wine. You know, if they wanted to expand it, they're going to have to go through a process to get a liquor license and all the other stuff. So I say, leave it as is and, uh, let these people, you know, do their business.
[00:29:59] Speaker 2
So we have a motion and a second with the board. Like to vote on that at this time.
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don't, cannot hear you.
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truth and nothing but the truth.
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Yes,
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you. I know this is a big building.
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[00:30:38] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
No, it's
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in the
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middle.
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Middle.
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[00:30:42] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
Yes, yes, that's correct. Yes, a little, little further to the east side of it. I don't know that's directly in the middle, but it's about 3,200 square feet out of the 27,000 square feet of the building.
[00:30:54] Speaker 6
And it places where it's south?
[00:30:56] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
Yes. Yes.
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[00:31:04] Bryant Smith (Speaker 1)
per the application, I believe everything is contained within within the building.
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Okay.
[00:31:09] Speaker 6
Thank you very much.
[00:31:13] Speaker 2
We have a motion and a second. Is the board ready to vote?
[00:31:17] Speaker 4
Yes. Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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[00:31:52] Speaker 2
Congratulations. Welcome to the village.
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[00:32:02] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Motion to adjourn madam president. Motion to
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adjourn.
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Motion to adjourn.
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[00:32:19] Speaker 4
I make a motion to adjourn.
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I'll
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second. All those in favor. Aye. Thank you.
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‸ Good
[00:32:29] Speaker 4
to see you guys. See you in six months.
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have people sitting next
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to us,
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fraud. Oh. Thanks.
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Thank you.