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Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Regular Meeting

Date
2023-11-16
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #296
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (260_CE_Reg_Minutes_11_16_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Lloyd Roberts, George Brown, Chris Davis, Verna Hughes, Sharri Scott, Josue Otero, Melissa Acosta, Dik Muller
  • Arrived after the roll: Michael Simpson (the minutes note: “6:02”)
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: none (the minutes record no absences)
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Dennis Bunt (Code Enforcement Manager), Augusto Gonzalez-Ruiz (Code Enforcement Officer), Michael Folger (Code Enforcement Officer), Debra Babb-Nutcher (City Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Brown (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (12)

  • to approve to the agenda of November16, 2023 (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve to the minutes of October 19, 2023 (moved by Davis, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Scott, seconded by Otero); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Scott); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and give them (60 days) January 16, 2024 and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to amend Staffs recommendation and give (60 days) January 18, 2024 and a fine of two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00) per day and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Scott); CARRIED 6-1 (result not printed; worked out from the count); ayes: not named in the minutes; nays: Brown — the City's minutes, p. 6 Corrected to match the minutes, page 5.
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Brown, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Simpson, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to approve staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of three thousand seven hundred fifty- six dollars and thirty-seven cents ($3,756.37) (moved by Otero, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED 5-2 — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • to not have a meeting in December (moved by Roberts, seconded by Davis); CARRIED 5-2 — the City's minutes, p. 11

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $3,756.37 — Code Enforcement: recommended to another body (City Council decides; not a final approval). “approve staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of three thousand seven hundred fifty- six dollars and thirty-seven cents ($3,756.37)” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (260_CE_Reg_Minutes_11_16_2023.pdf, p. 10); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $250.00 — Code Enforcement: named in a motion for which no result was read. “amend Staffs recommendation and give (60 days) January 18, 2024 and a fine of two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00) per day and find the Property Owner in violation” (motion result: none read; the City's minutes (260_CE_Reg_Minutes_11_16_2023.pdf, p. 6); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CE_Reg_Agenda_11_16_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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pledge allegiance to
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the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for
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all. We have our roll call.
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Lloyd
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Yes,
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ma'am. Before we approve the agenda for tonight,
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have an amendment. Item
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Item number five has complied. Motion
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I have a motion on the floor.
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I second it.
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I have a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion passes unanimously.
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We'll
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have the approval of the meeting from October 19th.
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Move to approve.
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Second. ‸ Motion on the floor with a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. And note that Mr. Simpson has arrived.
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Mr.
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I would like to submit the presentation and a document packet into the record at this time. All right.
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So
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noted. Thank you.
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You all right? And I'd like to welcome Mr. Otero as a regular member of the board. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yeah. Congratulations. And I'd like to welcome
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Acosta and Mr. Mueller as
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alternate
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we appreciate you and thank you very much.
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Welcome
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absence yet last week, but it's good to be back. All right. Start out. Item
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The
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property address is 412 Prospect Avenue. For the record, I'm Augusto Gonzalez, code enforcement officer. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos actually depict the property during my visits and show my findings of exterior general condition. Section
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disrepair of the roof and the fascia. Permit required, Appendix A, Article 15, Section 2A for the unpermitted roof repair, which was started but never finished and currently has an expired and closed
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I
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violation of the above-mentioned sections of the city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last
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the property remains in violation.
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I've
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been working
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contact with a property owner. I
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I've
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brought this case
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I
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have been working this case for 429 days, and the
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I sent the notice
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posted on the property in violation. Due to the longevity of this case and no progress made, staff finds in case 22-629 that the owner is in violation and recommend 30 days be given to come in compliance, or a fine of $25 for exterior donor condition and $50 for payment required. be imposed for each of the violations remain until compliance is achieved. and the property owner is not present.
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Mr. Chair? Nope.
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on the floor with the second. All in
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All right. Moving right along. Item number two
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos actually
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depict
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the property during my visits and show my findings of storing outdoors, section 6-900 b11 for the outdoor storage items in and around the carport. storage storing junkerado
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6-902 B1 and 2 for the storage of an inoperable and or unregistered vehicle. Weed section 6-1001d for the overgrowth on the property exceeding 12 inches in height. I
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violation of the above mentioned sections of the city ‸ code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as my last inspection this
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I've been working this case since
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owner having several medical issues. Several extensions were provided, including the final 30-day extension provided in October of 2023. I
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for 415 days. The violation has not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing on on November 2nd, 2023, and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation. Due to the longevity of this case and no progress made, staff finds in case 22-687 that the owner is in violation and recommend three
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be given to come in compliance or a fine of 25
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of the violations remain until compliance is achieved. The property owner is present.
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Would
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up? Yes, sir. You need
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Yes,
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All right, Mr. Dean, what can you tell
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is nothing there, I promise you. The car's
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under the garage. There's nothing sitting out around it, nowhere. The only thing setting out is my motorcycle and it's covered. So if he goes by in the morning, I guarantee you that ain't
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sitting there.
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It ain't that way.
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So in other words, you cleared up in one day what
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commend you. Now would 30 days be enough for you? Because it should you said it's not like that now, correct? Yes, sir. The first of the year I
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had a cardiac arrest. I
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‸ I stayed in the
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a pacemaker. Three weeks later, I had to go back in, spent two more weeks in there trying to get the infection cleared up where
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ago, the doctor told me I can get out, do stuff. Up until that, he had me in the house and wouldn't let me do anything. Only
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Lodge came up and give a hand. My
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like I say, the
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in that, nothing in that yard. I assure you. So whatever y'all do to me for having it there, I guess I got to deal with, but I'm sorry. Well, sir, it's not about
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trying to do a thing to you. It's just about trying to um have it cleaned up to have a better presentation. um So you're storing outdoors, um
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you, sir.
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Can you hear me now? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So you have three violations, one for storing outdoors, storing junk and autos, and one for weeds. You said everything is cleared up. Yes,
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sir. I got the stuff off the porch. the Only thing on the front porch is the swing and the uh little table with the two chairs on it.
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Okay. So 30 days is, well, you said it's cleaned up. So the only thing you would have to do now is get ‸ with Mr. Bunk and everyone else to find out when would they be able to come out to check it out and see what can be taken off.
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Okay, sir.
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i'd appreciate that very much. and You know, we appreciate you being here. um so it's
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They're trying to give you 30 days to have it cleaned up, but you said it should be taken care of.
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Yes, sir.
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sir. I'll take a motion.
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I'll see
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can see us tomorrow if it's all cleaned up. We can be out there
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board takes staff recommendation, uh with 30 days for a fine of 25
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second i have a motion on the floor by ms scott second by mr otero all in favor say aye
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aye aye
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Those opposed motion passed unanimously. So Mr.
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those gentlemen will
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could be out there tomorrow, but you might as well stay put for the next case.
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Yeah. Thank you, sir.
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Yes.
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please. Sir.
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You have another case.
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‸ Next case. CE 22-691. Yes, sir. All
[00:12:51] Speaker 7 (introduced as “Augusto Gonzalez” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
right. So the property address is 1310 Jackson street. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos actually depict the property during my visits and show my findings of temporary storage. Appendix a article 13 section 30 a3
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the unpermitted comics container on the property storage of recreational vehicles. Appendix
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vehicle exceeding 22 feet. And stored in a housekeeping state. And is on a vacant residential lot with no primary structure. I visited
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property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. i have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case. That is my last inspection on November 16, 2023. The property remains in violation. i've been working this case since September 27, 2022, and have had contact with a property owner. I've brought this case
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violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice
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and it was sent certified and posted on the property ‸ violation. Due ‸ longevity of this case and no progress made, staff finds in case 22-691. that the owners of violation, and recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance or a fine of 25
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imposed. for
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remain until compliance is achieved.
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All right, well, you won't have to be sworn in again.
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yeah
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That's a good thing. i
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I moved my camper. I mean, i I mean, my lot is 187 feet long and 107 feet deep, and then I owned 250 feet behind that, and I had it parked on there, and i I didn't think there was anything wrong with it, but I guess it is. I mean, I've got tags and insurance on it, so I moved it today, ‸ sir. The only thing I have left is the ‸ connex, and I have it halfway empty, and that connex is, I've
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in it for the last 20 years, or so it's hard to get it all out, sir, but I will have it out in another few days, sir, and it will, I've already got it gone. It's already been sold. The gentleman's just waiting on me to get the stuff out of it.
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Yes, sir. Well, the same thing goes. Those gentlemen right there, your best friend, um you get with them. They can come out there um probably tomorrow, so if you get with them. Okay, sir. All right. Yes, sir. So, I mean, other than that, you still have 30 days, but if you get out there tomorrow, you'll see what progress you've made, and they can guide you from there.
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Okay,
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‸ Sounds good.
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Sounds
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you. Thank you,
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sir.
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I'll take a motion.
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I'm
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property ‸ in our own violation,
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storage, and 25 per day for storage of recreational vehicle per day until compliance is achieved. Provided 30 days. Okay.
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i Have a motion on the
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say aye
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‸ item number six CE 23-694 the
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address is 2303 Michigan Avenue for
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enforcement officer I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of permit required, Appendix A, Article 15, Section 2A for the carport canopy that was installed with no permit, storing junker autos for vehicles stored on the property in various states of disrepair storing outdoors chapter 6
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junk and miscellaneous items,
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wood,
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car parts, scrap metal,
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et cetera.
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accumulation of trash and
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For trash and litter stored around the property, empty buckets, bottles,
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And business
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from the property I
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my first in fact inspection I found the property in violation of the above-mentioned sections of the city code I've
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November 16th the property remains in violation I've
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I have I have had some contact with the property owner I brought
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for 153 days and the
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2023 and it was sent certified and posted on
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and no progress being made, staff finds in case number 23694 that the owner is in violation and recommends 30 days be given to come into compliance or a fine of $25 for the permit required, $25 for storing junk or auto, and $25 for storing outdoors, $25 for accumulation of trash and litter, and $25 for business tax receipt be imposed for each day. The violations remain until compliance is achieved.
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‸ The owner here? ‸ Please step up. Yes. Hold on, man
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All
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right. You'll need to be sworn in.
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okay
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address for the record my name
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is Holly Bennett and I live at [address] ‸ my dad the name on the property is my dad's my dad has passed I haven't been
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through probate
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yet I have all the paperwork if
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need to see it but I have it I got the first initial letter
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saying that there was a code violation and then I didn't get anything
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and this has happened to me two or three times in the past two years I get like one letter and I try to talk to somebody can't find them can't get nothing and the case is just gone so with him I got the first one I got one letter and then I got the notice of the hearing on my mailbox and that was it Anyway, the
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property. Absolutely no business. There was a moving van that we had moved some stuff from the property off of the property. It's
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was there, but we
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not have a business.
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to see him there's no junk autos both of those older autos or I have a 91 Toyota Camry and I have a 1994 Nissan Nissan
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them every day as far as anything else that is the corner of my house that was like that a little bit ‸ but it hasn't been like that in months I see people code enforcement I saw three of them drive by two days ago and just right past me I I
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did miss a call I tried to talk to Brevard County they sent me back
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I'm
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so um I tried to find out information on what I need to do it correctly if
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for the permit if I could get a little time on that I'm good to go
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What is the average turnaround for a permit?
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For a canopy like this, it depends on what she comes with for the application. She'll have to fill out an application. Because she did her own straps and anchors, she's going to have to have some sort of engineering to show how it's anchored in the ground, that it would meet 220 mile an hour wind loads, um 30,
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she doesn't have to go and get anything else?
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That's what the building official is going to require.
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‸ Sounds like it's going to be something you you're definitely going to have to take out with the building um I'll do
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whatever they want me to sir I'm just I can tell you that aluminum that we're going to rip apart at 220 miles an hour. The whole neighborhood will.
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Any
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aluminum awning will come off at 220 miles an hour.
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not sure about that but um how much time do you think you'll need
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um 30 days would be awesome but I can show you pictures that everything else is done show the officer first sure
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I have a question, Mr. Folgers. What would you consider? Because she said she has two cars
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just
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running and I don't see any other cars here. ‸ What would be the other cars that was? There
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were other cars there ‸ when I started the case. Okay. Okay. There was a car on the right side of the canopy. There was one this morning by Mercedes, I believe it was. Okay.
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those up and they're put up. You don't need a permit on it if you take it apart in four hours or less. Is that correct?
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No, that's not actually written in the building code. That would be up to a building official and it refers to small ‸ canvas type canopies. If you can take them down within 24 hours, a lot of times they'll call it a temporary structure and
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i'll
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let it remain. This is actually affixed into the ground with footers and it's a steel framed carport. It requires a permit.
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does require that.
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is not designed to be a temporary structure. It's ‸ designed to be permanent. And if it was temporary, she'd only be able to have it for 120 days and she'd
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it down. After that.
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have
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to have one of these structures to take 225
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just like a shed and he said, and it's, it's for the strapping of what's in the ground. So like when you get a shed, you have to have it anchored so that it will withstand 220 mile an hour winds means the winds not going to blow the shed down, you know, like across your yard. So it's the tie downs that require the wind load. So
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That's what she has to show. She's got, says she's got pictures of the footers and the anchors and how they strapped it down. That's what the building official wants to see.
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Thank
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All right.
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Well,
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she wants the board to see her pictures. So
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she
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has a right to show the pictures to the board.
[00:26:49] Speaker 1
Yeah. The pictures that she showed to officer Folger, does that change? Um, do you feel like that remedy to any of these violations here?
[00:26:57] Speaker 11
Yeah. It looks like the, uh, the junk autos, um, the storing outdoors and the trash has been remedied.
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So do you want to amend your, I
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think after I inspect the property?
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I'd like to see the pictures.
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picture you took it early this morning though.
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the
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Yes. That
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was taken at 7 48 AM. And
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she's got everything cleared up now. It appears so.
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Officer,
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bunt
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can you go back one? What is that?
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That's
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has usually has metal and other items leaning on it. As you can see in some of these other pictures, see, they have like pipes and that's what led to the business being run out of there. The fact that there was a box truck.
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You show me which pictures.
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Poles.
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I
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but I think that's also what we were looking at to you in the backyard for outdoor storage.
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I see that. I see
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that. So
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like she has all this too.
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Which he said is cleaned up, but then in the back she still has that and there's usually items, metal and other things.
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When
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pictures?
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there a time stamp on these pictures that you can show me? Yeah.
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I'm
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16th at 2 41 PM. Okay. Thank you.
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And I tried. There
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might be other
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was
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watching.
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Thank you. So just for the
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record,
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you know, she showed me pictures that appears as though the accumulation of trash and litter, storing junk in autos and storing outdoors. Um,
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been cleared. Um, it's also been corroborated by officer Folger. Um, and for
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rest of the
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week,
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you get
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her to submit after the hearing her pictures so that we can stamp them into the record. That would be great.
[00:29:19] Speaker 1
Ma'am. Sure. Can you submit those to the clerk?
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I don't know.
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feel like I'll give you my email after. You
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Okay.
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Sure.
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[00:29:33] Speaker 2
Well, um, if I'm thinking of, um, as Mr. Bunt said, she may need, um, 30 to 45 days as far as the permit goes.
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Uh,
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we're not meeting for another 60 days. Just
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so you know.
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You're right.
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Are
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‸ There's no business. And, but that's for them to do more investigation. She said it's not, uh, they said it possibly is due to those items that are there. So as to right now, it's still here and that's what they believe until it's proven otherwise.
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No, that's not how it works.
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Okay.
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They have to prove it.
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That's what I'm
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talking about. That's what I'm talking
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about.
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That's what I'm
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about.
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prove otherwise. No, they have to prove. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:30:47] Speaker 12
I'm a glass blower. That's what I do. I teach blowing glass and that's the only business I've had. I've
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[00:31:01] Speaker 4
So again, based on that, you would need a residential tax receipt.
[00:31:08] Speaker 12
Yes, sir.
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don't do that. That's what I do. Oh, you don't do that no more.
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I'm a
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stay at home mother. Okay. I
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thought
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that's what you were saying. I was supposed to work for Disney and it was too long of a drive to be with my daughter. If
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all you have to do is go up. It's
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or you're going to make these products at your house. As long as it meets the zoning requirement, you fill out an application, you pay $74. They give you a business tax receipt. Well,
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I'm not talking about some business. I'm talking about with the city. Yes, sir. And if you decide to, because you're saying you didn't.
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Right.
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So we don't want to convolute it. If you decide to do something, just same place you get the permit, just apply for a business tax receipt. That's simple. That's over the counter. You can have it done in a day.
[00:31:58] Speaker 12
Well, I have all my equipment in my garage, sir, but I don't produce anything and I don't make any money off of it.
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Okay, well, it doesn't have to make money if you're generating a business and you're having product and stuff at your house. That's what the business tax. It's a simple process, but if you're not doing it, don't get one. But you ‸ know, that's all I'm letting you know. If you start to run a business of any kind, just go get a business tax receipt. It's
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Disney presented a new warm glass studio. Or
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they presented it to them. So they commissioned me to make some samples for them and to help them set up their warehouse. And then they asked me to manage it and I couldn't do that because I can't drive all the way to Disney Springs with a little girl.
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So,
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her testimony. She did in the past, but she's not now. So that's why I said, if you decide to later, go get a business tax receipt. As of ‸ now, we're going to go with what the chairman stated and we're concentrating on the permit.
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Okay.
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So basically what I was trying to get to was I also weld. I also used to race cars. We do a lot of stuff. We play. So there's a lot of wood. There's a lot of, I mean, I grew up, I grew up, my mom owned a craft store and my dad was an engineer. So we play, I got welders.
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got everything. There's no business though. If
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I'm going to go.
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I mean, I
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Well, ma'am, the only thing we're saying, we just
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want
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you to have this property taken care of. We're not trying to tell you what to do or how to run it with anything, but we're just trying to ensure that you're following the code. So now then you're out of here.
[00:33:57] Speaker 12
Yes, sir.
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And so you said everything is taken care of. Yeah. There's no business being ran. So essentially what from what you've saying, what you've said,
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stayed
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here. Um,
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Yes,
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sir.
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So that's something that you can get with these gentlemen to get more guidance on
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and
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which they'll be able to direct you in the right direction. Um,
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it may take you 30 to 45 days. Okay. Okay.
[00:34:35] Speaker 13
Yes, sir.
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So I'm sure that somebody on this board is going to make a recommendation to give you at least 60 days. I'm
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Just leave it the same, but Jen, I mean,
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you're going to make the motion. Nope.
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So we just leave it the same and we'll just leave it until they come back. Let's
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going to go in
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and clarify. No,
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Is there any further
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discussion.
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All right.
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we find the property owner in violation of permit required. Cause the fine ‸ $25 per day. Right.
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period of 60 days for remedy by January 18th, 2023, or, um,
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day. Until
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Well,
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hold on.
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2024,
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So the only thing I have with that, um, they have these others on here. Now, are we going to address that? Are we going to?
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No, I'm not. My motion does not include a finding for those. So the
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evidence isn't there. Then
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at least pursuant to this motion, the evidence isn't there on the other ones for a finding. So Mr. Davis, his motion is just for the permit required.
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Correct. And a 60 day period.
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So ‸ that the finding, the findings of fact and conclusions of law will only have a violation of permit required.
[00:36:27] Speaker 1
But I believe they've demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that she needs a permit. That's why that's the only finding here.
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So we're going with the only finding here is of permit required.
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Correct.
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Okay. I just want to be clear because I need to be clear. So
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Second. So I have a motion on the floor by Mr. Davis. Second by Mr. Simpson. All in favor say aye.
[00:36:58] Speaker 5
Aye.
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‸ Opposed? ‸ Motion passes. All right, ma'am. So like I said, um, you need to get with these gentlemen. Um, you hit, you see them now, so please get with them to ensure that you're in constant communication to help you with less headaches, um, going forward to get yourself in the right direction.
[00:37:24] Speaker 12
Yes sir.
[00:37:24] Speaker 2
All right.
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Yeah.
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Thank you very much for being here.
[00:37:27] Speaker 12
Thank you guys.
[00:37:34] Speaker 2
All right. See
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The
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submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show findings of, uh, tree protection and preservation. Appendix a article 13 section 22 E one through four for the removal of an oak tree from the city right away. I visited the site four times during my first inspection.
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found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance ‸ in this case, but as my last inspection November 16th, 2023, the property remains in violation. I've been working this case since July 19th, 2023, and
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had some contact with the property owner. I brought this case before the code board as I've been working this case for 120 days and the violations have not been resolved. I sent notice of hearing on November 3rd, 2023, and it was sent certified and post on the property in violation. Due
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23 8 32 that the owner is in violation and a fine of $5,000 for the tree protection and preservation be imposed.
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And
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Where's the tree?
[00:39:02] Speaker 11
It's gone.
[00:39:03] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
The tree was removed. We got a complaint from public works and planning and zoning. Um, as you can see in the front here where they were grinding the stump of the tree down, they cut the city's oak tree and then they ground the stump out. So
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Um, and you can see by the street picture. There was oak trees all the way down the street, but in front of his house, the oak tree is now gone. So
[00:39:29] Speaker 1
what about the estimate per inch?
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All that doesn't apply because the tree was already gone and the stump was already ground down. So
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um,
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We're not doing, um, per inch of the tree.
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No,
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No. Okay.
[00:39:59] Speaker 5
‸ You know why I was telling, uh, cut down. Hmm. Did they give you a reason why it was cut down?
[00:40:05] Speaker 9
You said the owner's here.
[00:40:07] Speaker 5
Yeah.
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Does the owner want to?
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Would
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owner like to step up and speak? I
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sir.
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I
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do.
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North Sherwood Circle.
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Okay.
[00:40:33] Speaker 2
All right, sir. What can you tell us about this situation here?
[00:40:36] Speaker 16
Well, the tree was destroying my property, sir. Um, they replaced the sidewalk three different times. I paid $10,000 to have pavers put in my front yard. It was literally lifting up the pavers, destroying everything. My kids have tripped multiple times on the sidewalk. Um, I
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It was, it was, you know,
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danger to my children. It was ruining my property. I tried to remove the tree. Not every house has a tree either. My
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The neighbor next to that don't have a tree. Um, I did cut the tree down, however. So ‸ I am responsible for cutting the tree down. But like I said, my kids have fallen multiple times from the sidewalks being like this from the roots. I don't know why. Yeah, it's a beautiful tree, but why do you plant a tree in a three foot easement? A big oak tree. And it wasn't nearly big as any of those trees there either. I mean, it was half the size of the tree you see right now in the picture.
[00:41:37] Speaker 2
Just a little off topic. Didn't George Washington cut down the cherry tree too? Just asking. Okay.
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Now
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I immediately went to the city to pull a permit.
[00:41:53] Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Um, I've been dealing with the city for multiple months, over a year now. I've
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I haven't yet met Mr. Michael. I've done every single thing that the city has asked me to do. Uh, I
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didn't tell me I needed a permit in 2019.
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What day did you try and attempt to get the permit? Right
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after I was informed that I needed it. So.
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very next day. And
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Monday morning, I was at the city. I had no
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idea. Do
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Um, this gentleman can tell you we've had much contact from an idea that. Did you bring any proof with you
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today? Did
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No,
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sir.
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did not. I mean, I didn't
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mean,
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I'm sure I
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find an email saying that I went and applied for a permit that I've emailed this gentleman over here.
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Well,
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which subsection of the, the ordinance is the violation for? Is
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Well, is it? Well, one to four, but there's different.
[00:43:04] Speaker 16
Well, originally it was for pavers and the tree.
[00:43:09] Speaker 4
The pavers were a separate case.
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So is it for failure to get a permit for the tree
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Okay. And
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I needed to go down to the city and apply for a after the fact permit. So that's what I did. I went to the city and I said, I'm applying for an after the fact permit. Now they couldn't figure out what kind of permit.
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went to three different departments, ‸ two different buildings, multiple occasions. Um,
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pavers because I didn't pull a permit for them. Well, I hired a company and in 2019, you didn't need permits
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papers. It
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appears as though the city recently passed a new ordinance governing this whole process. Um, this ordinance was just
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This has
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been going on since last. ‸ I'm telling you,
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we were just provided with a new ordinance by the city council and fair failure to obtain
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that's not
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what they're citing him.
[00:44:13] Speaker 1
That's not what they're citing for, but it's not going to help him any. That's what I'm trying to get at.
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So
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I know when this first started, I know you had papers put in. Um,
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need a permit. Just, I mean, when
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you're
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taking up
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need a permit for papers and I hired a company to do this. Okay. And that was a, that was a conversation I have the company. So it
[00:44:52] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
sounds like after the fact, I can't vouch for it now because
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that's why I said I hired a company. I
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my papers. Mr.
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The
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just the truth.
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[00:45:10] Speaker 4
you always need approval from planning and zoning on papers. And if you look at the picture, he
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So the code actually says
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because my kid almost got hit three times. Okay. I'm not saying
[00:45:24] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
you don't have a reason. I'm just telling you what the code is. So that's the whole paper issue. In the process of doing that, he cut down a tree in the city right away, which was a city tree.
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He
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All right. I'm just saying cut down the city tree. So planning and zoning sent us out there for the
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pavers
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[00:45:46] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
And because he cut down a tree, the tree was already cut down. There's no way to measure it. There's no way to look at it and it's not his tree. It's on city property. So then public works came back and said, they cut down our tree and we can't have it back. So based on the new penalty system in the tree section, that's an irreversible, irreparable violation. And that's what we cited them for.
[00:46:11] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Okay. So now questions, um, and I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus or anything. All
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Oh God, it's been over a year now. Beginning of this new and this new.
[00:46:26] Speaker 14
Good point. Mr. Chair,
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this new
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policy came out
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when?
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Well, irreversible and repairable has always been a policy. It's always been there. We've actually cited other properties on Tulane
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So that's always been there. The revision, if you remember,
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had tidal wave roofing with all
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And we were talking about, you know, diameters and stuff like that. They've recently upgraded the ordinance and simplified the penalty stage, making this an irreversible, irreparable violation for removing. So we don't necessarily have to look at the caliper of the tree and the size of the tree. The fact is there is no tree. The tree's gone. It can't be put back the way it was. It's irreversible, irreparable.
[00:47:11] Speaker 2
All right. So what I'm getting at is I don't know anything about a caliper and I don't even care. Me
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But
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now when does, when was the tree removed?
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Okay. So what did the, so I know we're today, November 16, 2023. What was the policy on a year ago and whatever, February saying same thing a year
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ago was still irreversible repairable because the tree was already cut down and removed. Okay. What we did though is we asked him to get with planning and zoning and get with public works and try to remedy this situation so that code wouldn't have to cite them. Okay.
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that hasn't been done. I'm not saying that he didn't go talk to anybody.
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just saying it
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Okay.
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So there has been no mitigation of, Hey, give us a tree for the, none of that happened. So therefore we had to step in and then we cited it, but either way, it was irreversible ‸ repairable from the moment he cut the tree and ground the stump into the ground. Okay. And it's
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the city put in with taxpayer money. It's not on his property. You know, it, it needs to be replaced somehow so he can,
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you
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know, we wanted him to go to public works
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what they wanted in return. It just didn't happen. So we
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trying to figure out how to reminisce this to, to fix the problem. I have offered to put a new tree in. I have, I have been
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[00:49:03] Speaker 16
I've been to the one here. I've been upstairs for the third or the second floor. I've been all over. I've done everything. I've ‸ emailed and talked to Mr. Augustus multiple times trying to, to, to fix this problem.
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I have done
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everything I can do. I never wanted code enforcement involved.
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I
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would never let it come to this. I can't fix it because nobody knows how to fix it. I've made multiple calls. I've
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finally told my wife just start emailing people because that's going to be our trace. When
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and say that I have not done nothing. I have, I have emailed, I have gone, I've talked to people. Nobody knows how to fix the problem. So now here I am. Now I'm going to get hit with another $5,000 fine that I really can't pay. Okay. I went to, to, to public works. I went upstairs. I tried to pull the permits. They told me that the permit was pulled and everything was fine. Then it went away. I
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then all of a sudden this gentleman stepped back in the picture and said, Oh,
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And I said, well, I thought it was all done. So he told me to go back. So I went back upstairs to the second floor again and said, what is going on? The lady said, well, so-and-so is not working here no more. So now I'm in charge of this. So
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She wrote down my name. Then she left. She's
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She's in another department. Nobody knows what to do. All I want to know is how to fix the problem.
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definitely fair. Definitely fair. You had a question?
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discussion, please. Mr. Von. On these trees. Say there's a big tree there. ‸ All of a sudden it's growing into his property. It's pushing the sidewalk up. The tree overhanging the property makes a mess on it. It kills the grass.
[00:51:05] Speaker 4
I mean. Again, there's procedures to that. So what you would do is not run out and cut the tree down. You would go to public works because it's their tree. And you would speak to public works. And public works could replace the sidewalk. They could cut the roots out. They could do whatever. That's the biggest problem here is that tree is not his tree. He walked
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the city right away and he cut down the tree. If that was on my property, I'd go to public works and make public works, trim the branches, do whatever they need to do.
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Again, it
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goes to public works. I can give
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sidewalk out and redo the sidewalk and transpose
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It's done with an art.
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things
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Of course. Okay.
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And then if it was a real serious issue, he
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applied for a tree removal permit. And then the city would have given him one and then he
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But again, all this was after it was already done. The tree was already removed.
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‸ And
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then we started trying to fix it.
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I don't think you were here at the time, but right here in the village, the trees that were really close to the street and the sidewalk were growing into the buildings and all. We had a heck of a time with figuring all that out. Right down there in Delanoi, up towards going south, they were a problem. So
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mentioned that ‸ could have probably been taken care
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Right,
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they removed the sidewalk. They fixed it. They fixed the way things are. That's what I'm saying.
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a procedure. We didn't follow procedure. We just cut down a tree and said we cut down the tree. And this is why we did it.
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Well,
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so it's in
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What I'm saying is when he had these problems in the beginning and the sidewalk ‸ lifted, you go there. That's what the tree ordinance is about. If you want to cut the tree down, you go there. You have the public works arbors go look at it. They issue a permit. You can cut the tree down, trim branches, do whatever. This is not the first time we brought this to the board. Like I said, we had a case on Tulane back in 2017 where a lady did the same thing. She didn't even cut the tree completely down. We also had Swanee where the gentleman cut the trees and we brought that before this board. So this is not new. And I don't want to see the guy get punished either if the thing is messing up his yard, but there's a procedure that needs to be done. You
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So
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public works what they would want as a remedy. Since there has been no remedy in over a year, we were asked to cite it again as
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the
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board how many times he ran downtown to get things done and all. Is this after the fact or before the
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No,
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no, it's all after.
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The tree was already gone and the pavers were already put in. Then he had to go after the fact. Pavers
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Zoning
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On the tree issue, they originally said, okay, we'll look at the tree. Then
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Yes, that part is a mess. But again, if we didn't put the cart before the horse and we followed regular procedures, we wouldn't necessarily be in this predicament.
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All right. So check this out. This is my opinion. We're
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dead horse. So his original, he was supposed to get with public works.
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If
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yes, you go to public works. If
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With the remedy in reference, because it's coming before us now, he was supposed to get with public works in reference to how to remedy it, correct? Correct. Because, yes, can't
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Exactly.
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But he was supposed to get with public works to find out what he could do, correct? Correct. All right.
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right. So it's been going, ‸ been doing all this time. So I don't see why we couldn't give him a little more time to find out who he would need to go to, to see what he could do to help remedy this in reference to, because, you know, us
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city.
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So Dennis, if, if he had met with who you're suggesting he should meet with, was there some sort of mitigation that could have been worked out?
[00:55:49] Speaker 4
Yes. It's my understanding that the city has a tree bank and had public, and he went to public works and said, look, the tree looked this big. The arborist looked at their aerials and came up with a diameter and said, look, you provide us X number of trees in lieu of this. We'll take them. Or sometimes you can do a cash mitigation. That's the way I read in the ordinance that it can be done.
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That's typical.
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mean, that's, that's, that's normal.
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And so that's what they should do. They should say, you can either donate this many inches of tree to the tree bank, or you can donate financially this much money to the tree bank.
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Would that, would
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Yeah. Right now it's an irreversible.
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for a year and we're still missing a trick
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to go up to,
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up to, you
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know? So we just go with that figure. Um,
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got charged 2,500 per tree instead of the 5,000, but she didn't cut the trees all the way down. Um, so there's circumstances. So yes, he could probably mitigate this through the tree bank. I would imagine and get back the inches that were removed so that they could plant trees. Somewhere else. Um, I don't know if they'd be planning in the front of his house. You know, from a personal standpoint, I agree that the oak trees on throughout the city on
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smaller right of ways is difficult because Oak trees have bad roots, but you still have to stay with it in the code. So
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If the board wants to give time for him to go speak to them, that's all we're looking for.
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We're
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This
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We're
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you have a
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different remedy, we are. Amendable to that.
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In other words, what he said.
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All I need is a number and name.
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Yes, sir.
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Tomorrow.
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Give us a moment.
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So didn't we have I remember we had a
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tree
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months ago and we cited them under our old ordinance. They still got a pretty hefty fine because we were able to calculate ‸ the inches.
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know, you use the tree canopy to estimate what was gone versus what was there now. And I'm just curious why that same methodology wouldn't be appropriate in this case. Well, because the same
[00:58:27] Speaker 4
attorney that was present then, Kristen Ike, that's ‸ the way the ordinance was written then. But now to streamline it because it's hard to do aerials and calculate, they kind of made it more simple and they did it per tree per acre per this and they did it all at $5,000 per tree. Now the irreversible part has always been in effect. That's not new. That's been around forever. But they did modify that. After that case to make it a little easier ‸ to calculate, because if you remember,
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we
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were going back and forth on the price of the permit versus the price of all the inches versus this. And it was kind of convoluted. So they streamlined it and basically said, just like everything irreversible, repairable. Now, if we cut down five trees, we would have an irreversible at 5,000 per tree. And they took away the inches. That was one of the cases that actually started. And it was ‸ also another subdivision from what I understand.
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In that case, we actually provided a remedy period. We
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I believe. Is that your recollection? No,
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permit, which they ended up getting the permit. But in order to get the permit, they had to pay into the tree bank, also plant trees on the property. And then the permit was issued. And they actually did that at the very, very end of the situation. So they actually ended up still paying off the top of my head. I
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In total for the price of the permit plus the trees and the mitigation. Yeah, but he's saying
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that he's willing to do it real ‸ quick. So what I'm saying is if we use that case as a precedent and we allow him a 30 day period with a tree mitigation plan or a fine of $250 a day, that'll give him an opportunity to hop on it real quick and avoid the fines. You know, but
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that's under our old ordinance, you know, and I don't know. But
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Yes. The person you're going to need to talk to is Abigail Morgan in public works and she's the interim public works director. Um,
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Um, we do have a city arborist that she will probably converse with and discuss.
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What's her last name?
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Morgan M O R G A N.
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She is the city public works.
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She's the interim public works director. So
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she would get with the arborist and she would get with Frank Marabito and they would discuss what they would like to
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do.
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they would like
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to have in lieu of the tree being cut down. And then if you satisfy them, they're technically the complainants in this, then that would go away.
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But
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Honestly, I went down to the city and I tried to apply for this after the fact permit multiple times. I went upstairs. They sent me
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then they sent me back over here.
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And
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that's built to the lady upstairs in the second floor of the permitting department. I'm very familiar with pulling permits. I pull them all the time. So I went to the permitting department and I said, okay, I need to pull a permit for this tree and these pavers. This gentleman told me it was going to be two different permits. So I very much told them it's two permits, one for a tree. That was an after the fact one for pavers. That's an after the fact. She said, okay. Another lady came from the side, spoke to me for a minute. She was a Hispanic lady. She said, okay, I'm gonna take down your information and we'll get back with you. Then I called back and I spoke to how they
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in the, in the permitting department. I forgot what her name was.
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They
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They
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both have almost the same name.
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Tory
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Terry.
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And she said
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that both permits were on the same permit. ‸ And I didn't understand that. I said, no, this is supposed to be two permits. She said, no, we just put them all on the same permit. Okay. So then now, now, now I'm under the impression that the permits are pulled, that we're done with the situation. So I went in, I think submitted my drawings for the pavers. I went and pulled up all my pavers filed for the, for the finish of the permit. They came out, did their inspection is done. I didn't think nothing else of it. Then ‸ we're getting a letter several months later saying that this case has not been followed through with, there was never a permit for the tree. This whole time. I'm
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Well, and if I can, you can't pull a permit for pavers and a tree. They're
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understand
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are just the permitting
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They just push paper, take money issue there. So they're not the ones you really should have spoke to.
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‸ And Sandra told me, we don't give after the fact permits. Lucy came on board and thanks to the
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wave case. Um,
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after the fact. The permit for cutting down trees is done prior to, you can't cut down a bunch of trees and then necessarily get an after the fact. So that's where all the hubbub came. And then, like I said, then they sat down and they revised the ordinance and the penalty phase. Nope.
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simple. Well nobody can
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call us back or email us or let us know what's going on or what we have to do. All
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you. I'm just saying so we have
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this gentleman. I understand.
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a very good rapport with me and I've had very good rapport with him.
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Right.
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Okay I've done everything that I've been instructed to do everything.
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And ‸ the moment he
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told me to stop I didn't even finish grinding the stump. I
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to pull permits so I could finish the grinding of the stump because I didn't know that I wasn't supposed to do that. So I stopped. I returned the machine went and did what I had to do and then when I was told that I was okay I went and finished the stump. So I didn't like
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hell with you guys and just did what I had to do. That wasn't the case. I
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I know
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not
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arguing that fact. And I'm not
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arguing what you spoke to them. I'm just telling you what that
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definitely done my share ‸ back and
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forth trying to figure out how to fix this problem.
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So
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This is something it's
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going to be settled within a day. Would
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with us
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tabling
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this? Because that would give him the time to speak with whoever needs it needs to go to as far as trying to get some clarification because it seems like there's a lot of uh cloudy water in this case.
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Well and I'm not I'm not going to tell the board what motion to make because you guys can make whatever you want. That's the way it works. Um
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as Mr. Davis was mentioning um then it would already be set. Um of course staff would prefer that but we'll go either way. Our goal is compliance. Our goal is not to
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Our goal is to get him into the right place where he can negotiate that with public works and and make the city whole for taking away the tree that was on the city right away. So that's where we stand.
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Just
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to clarify I think that the burden has been met here as far as proof um he's admitted to taking down the tree. So I think we just need to at this point decide what the board feels is appropriate as a remedy. Um no one here believes that he didn't ‸ cut down the tree because he's admitted to it. We know that that was wrong. So we need to decide what the appropriate punishment is going to be that we're going to impose. I don't see why we would need to wait. Um
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Um I disagree with you on the fact that we should wait. I'm sorry.
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I'm
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Um if something can be I
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I just need to make sure that our Cocoa homeowner is very clear on the understanding they are not looking for you to get a permit. They're looking for you. That's
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what they told me.
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Hold on. They're
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remedy.
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Absolutely.
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There's a big big difference ‸ based on just hold on, based on sitting here listening to everything that you've said, everything that he said, the attorney and everybody on this board. I feel like you have really gone above and beyond trying to get a permit. But please understand where they are at is looking for remedy. I understand. So you've got to get with public works to remedy the situation. Absolutely. You
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That's
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And I feel like I
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like it
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I feel like it's not clear over the fact that you you need to put the permit out of your mind and you need to talk about remedy. That's fine. So when you go to public works in the morning you need to talk to them about remedy the situation. All the ‸ other filler information let it go. You need to talk about remedy. Y'all can y'all can do whatever you want with the finding thing but I'm I'm I feel like he's also the the the officers have gone above and beyond to prove their their side and I feel like he's kind of gone above and beyond also. So I'm kind of straddling this one. I'm I'm I don't
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I'm
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feel that that's
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a day with 30 day period the same that we impose on the prior people. And
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that's if it's not remedy. If it's not remedy
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that will give him the 30 day period to do the tree mitigation just like she's saying the remedy. Okay. So if you can get that done within 30 days you can get off with no fine.
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I have no problem on my end doing it in 30 days. But okay. ‸ I understand what you're saying about the whole permit thing but I have asked
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him,
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how do I fix this. I appreciate you we're telling you how to fix
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it.
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days. I really do because that helps the board.
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Okay. I mean I agree to whatever you guys think is best. I'm
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I just want to fix. I want to put this behind me. I
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don't want my wife having anxiety over this. I want it done. Whatever I have to do I just want it
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behind
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me.
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You come see me and we'll go through it together so that you get the right answers. I'll
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be there at 0900.
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Yeah. So well don't come tomorrow because I'm not here tomorrow. Also
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right now is a tough time to get things done with two big holidays coming up. South
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public works and schedule that.
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you know,
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so that we can get direct answers.
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I just know that I have no problems on my end doing it in 30 days.
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Well, I just think it's more like a comment. So you recommend,
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not yet, but you're suggesting this $250 a day for 30 days.
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We can go up to 500 and
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day is the max.
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30 days from now would be 7,500. I
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understand, but we also could have handed out $5,000
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not arguing. I'm
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just
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that you understand what we're about to do that if you don't remedy this And
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it's not just that. It'll be rolling per day until he does fix it.
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Right.
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After that 30-day period.
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because ‸ once
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again I have no problem I'll meet him tomorrow morning and do whatever they say I have to do on my end there's no problem but I'm telling I've been going through this with the city for a long time, trying to fix this problem. Not with just a permit, trying to fix it in general period to get it behind me I have told them I would do whatever you guys want me to do
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let us let us go ahead and see what we can do to try to help you help yourself so mr.
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bond do you think 30 days is enough time for him to ‸ get a tree mitigation plan it
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should be and that's what I'm saying if he gets with me I'll set up an appointment with Abigail and we'll sit down together all of us and then that way because you know you get the answers to the questions that you ask. So if you go up and you ask somebody questions and you're not asking right, you get those answers. And sometimes communication gets scattered so if he wants to meet with me Monday I'll be more than happy to you know translate between public works and we'll get it done.
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Sounds like you've got a lot of partners here to work with, sir
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I'm willing to meet with you anytime Monday you just give me a time and I will be there you tell me a time and an address
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I'm here eight to five and I'm
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right next to Provost Park by
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you know where the Provost Park is
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and
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to be there next street over O'Reilly's Auto Parts then the bus stop our buildings right across the street
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with
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yeah I think you're good
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okay
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yeah
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all right is
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I start
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no
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what
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was asking
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I hope he doesn't make a big fine out of it because it's not necessary no we're trying not to
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I'm gonna give him 60 days to clear it up so he sounds to me like he's gonna clear it up in that time and it's not gonna be an issue anyway mr.
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think we do to 250 like the same you know that
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so you don't
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have to vote for it if you don't agree with it but I think the city council passed this to these changes because they want us to know how ‸ important the trees in the city are. and I think we have to respect that
[01:14:17] Speaker 15
not only trees but the property
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yes all right so in case number
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owner in violation of tree protection and preservation provide a period of 60 days for remedy until January 18th 2024 or
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day
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the second all in favor say
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five that are four
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and one that
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that's against. Motion passes by majority.
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so you've been giving 60 days to have a remedy to this and mr.
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help you help yourself getting out of this situation so right now mr. bun
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you and your wife's best friend. Yeah. so ‸ And
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you're very lucky. The chair did advocate for you very well ‸ and gave you an extra 30 days so you got that 60 day time period to get this time
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appreciate it I just hope that somebody will know what to do and I can just remedy this and be done with it we'll
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bunt there and he's been through it all so you're
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right so I'll see you Monday morning all right
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thank you sir
[01:16:13] Speaker 1
good work everyone on that case we all kind of work together ask the probing questions I like that
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all right non-compliance our first one under
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[01:16:31] Speaker 7 (introduced as “Augusto Gonzalez” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
the address is 213 factory street I'm submitting photos that took your my re-inspections of the property. They actually depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the Code Board on April
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of site plan approval required appendix a article 13 section 1b for the alterations made to the property without a site plan. The property owner was given two separate board orders to comply the first board order
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the
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from the property this case
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brought to the
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and was tabled by the board. The
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on this same date former code member David Lightholder also provided the
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board the second board order compliance date with October 20th 2023 and was to obtain a site plan approval for the alteration made to the site, changing the property used from a federal consent decree, low density, single family, and multiple family to a parking lot. The fine amount for this board order was set at $50 per day I sent the notice of hearing for non-compliance on November 2nd 2023 and it was ‸ certified and posted. At this time, the only progress made has been some removal of millings to the outskirts
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the
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property remains in violation, and the property owner former property owner is here
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Mr.
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they sat with the mayor and there was a big meeting about it and is this that I
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think
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believe it was planning and zoning or the city manager okay
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but there was
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a meeting that was held prior to I believe
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that's when I have him in my cake my notes on this case are kind of jumbled I just wanted to refresh everyone's memory
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Mr.
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yes sir thank you
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Mr.
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all right sir okay as you spoke as you noted we have had several meetings on this and I've made a lot of progress I think I gave I was to a written update on what I had done so I
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didn't know that ‸ wasn't sufficient I paid $5,000 ‸ scraped and I want to note that it is no longer 213
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one of the things I had to do that we discussed with Mr. Bunt was that I had to merge the problem title merge the property to my apartment building which is right there in the picture of the yellow building so that's been done so I have uh
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everybody said no it's not going to cost that much well
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um so we had a pre-application meeting I think you call it for the permit uh with Bowman associates that was done uh we've gone to construction drawings now uh I
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he said that the project drawings uh ‸ construction drawings will be done by the end of the month and then we'll submit for the formal permit but we have had a formal pre-permit application meeting with the city so there's been a lot of progress um and like I said I think
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I gave you and Mr.
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a summary of all that progress um I would like to note for the record that it was said that it
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wasn't previously a parking lot now that we've scraped it this it was a paved parking lot this pavement right there um so I'm
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city told me it was a parking lot and I could use it for the same thing which we don't need to go over all that again but I've made a lot of progress spent a lot of money and uh I guess ‸ all I can do is wait
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you
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just two things number one it still shows on the property appraiser is 213 Mr. Levinceler
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submitted from the property appraiser that he put an application to adjoin the properties. It didn't say it was already done. So we don't have that. um This is also a non-compliance hearing. um And he has not even applied for the site plan yet because he needs his drawings and everything to go with it. So has he made some
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And even if he submits for the site plan, they may not okay it as a parking lot based that it's in a consent decree. So we we have not advanced as much as what's there. But at the end of the day, it's still in non-compliance. um We did discuss the millings in detail what needed to be done with the millings. That's why there was a separate order done. When it came back, it was said that the millings would make a good base for his parking lot when he gets ready to do it. That's why he didn't scrape all that. But he had to find an engineer. An engineer was given to him. um I
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like the day that we cited it. um Again, and we're still in the consent decree. So we
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is where I am. He might have another six months with the way things go to do that. But we've we've had this case open. um You know, the hearing for this the first time was in April and then we
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I just wanted to mention that it is a non-compliance hearing. And right now we do not have a site plan and we still have millings. And I mean, this picture is from this morning. You can see where the apron is and I'm not going to rehash the parking lot issue because it
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first hearing. So this is where we are today. But this is not going to get done next week. He still has a long way to go.
[01:23:37] Speaker 17
Okay, well, I i go back to your first statement The county the county has approved it. It is the title is merged now. It's it's listed as 699. hewlett there has been
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I looked it up before the hearing. It comes up as 213 factor and the
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the application. It does not say it's been approved.
[01:24:05] Speaker 17
so. Well, I think it has, but that's a matter of fact. That's fine. But the pro the thing that worries me what you say now is at this last meeting, you know, I I was instructed what I had to do. I
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had to merge the properties so that i could so that it could be approved as a parking lot, not in the federal, not
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it is, i
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was if I'm
[01:24:36] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
going to spend all this money to do this, I needed to have, you know, the end of the rainbow, so to speak. So, let me finish ‸ What
[01:24:45] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
was stated, let me let me clarify, okay because I'm pretty standard the whole way across. You can't just make a parking lot in the consent decree. So, it was brought up that you would need to join them together to make it one property to have a parking lot. It still doesn't mean you're going to be allowed to. That was always discussed. You only cited to get a site plan. Based on your testimony, it
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on doing all this other stuff. That
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done to your satisfaction. That's my question, I guess, because I had like six or seven
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[01:25:30] Speaker 2
the bottom line to this case is, um it's either compliant or non-compliant. um it
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I'm sorry that it's not.
[01:25:43] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice
Yeah, that's it. I'm not arguing that fact, but I have contracted a firm, which is what I was instructed to do to do the site plan. I
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[01:25:55] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice
I talked ‸ him this afternoon. He said he would, we had the meeting with the city. The
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had that meeting. Everybody was there. um ‸ and there was no, there was no, uh indication that that wasn't going to
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instructed to ‸ here. I'm not saying it's in compliance. yet I agree with it, but I'm, I have a path and I'm doing what I have to do. It just takes a lot of time.
[01:26:27] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Yes, sir. And we're not, um contending going against what you're saying, but the bottom line is there's no gray area. This is only a black and white
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[01:26:56] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice
you very much. I'll take a motion. But I need, well, I need to know from, I need to get an inspection. I guess ‸ if I've got to continue to scrape and sweep, obviously I can't get every little piece of milling, but I'm
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one, I'm gonna ‸ tell you, we don't do that here. We don't scrape anything that has nothing to do with us. So after
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um I don't know what guidance they're going to give you, but we can't do anything
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would just suggest that after the board make a motion and find what they find at
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[01:27:37] Speaker 4
can fix his property. He can take as long and then he can come back to the board. If the board imposes a fine today and he
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[01:27:47] Speaker 4
go out there and discuss whatever. But at this juncture, I think he needs to go through the site plan approval, get approved, and then put the parking lot in if he's approved the way it should be done. But at this juncture, he's still in non-compliance and he's always been worried about time. But if we make a motion here today, then there is no more clock. Mr.
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[01:28:11] Speaker 4
he would just have to come back when he's all done. If the fine is assessed, I'll take a motion.
[01:28:16] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion on this case, please. Yes, sir. ce
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[01:28:28] Speaker 5
‸ have a motion on the floor by
[01:28:29] Speaker 2
Mr. Brown. Second by my favorite. all in favor say aye aye aye they'll oppose it passes unanimously all right sir i
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know what
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just go ahead and follow through with everything you're supposed to do. ‸ Get your site plan approved. Get all that. When you do, we'll comply the case, and then you can come back to the board on a lien reduction based on what has a call What
[01:29:03] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
am I being fined right now? You're
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[01:29:09] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
get a site plan. You don't have one. So they're finding you. How much for that one?
[01:29:14] Speaker 7 (introduced as “Augusto Gonzalez” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and
[01:29:16] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
then And then because the millings are still there and it's still designed that way, you get that fine. But don't worry about the fine. You can always come back. Now you need to concentrate on getting your site plan approval push through and okay with planning and zoning and go from there. Just
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I don't know. I i don't agree with that. i I've done, um held, I
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[01:30:27] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We, either you've had, to do you even have one or we don't. We can't do anything about that tonight.
[01:30:34] Speaker 17
Okay. So what do I do to, I don't agree with this. So what, what, what am I, what can I do? I guess I ask
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[01:30:42] Speaker 17
Well,
[01:30:43] Speaker 14
um I'm
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during testimony, it was brought up that he put down the millings and put installed the gate and did the parking lot that way. And we started to discuss that he could close the case. If he just restored the property to the way it was, he didn't want to do that. And he kept talking about joining the property. So ‸ the board said, well, look, we'll tell you this, remove the millings and restore the property. And that, and you have this length of time to do that. And this would be your fine. And then you need to get your site plan. We're going to give you 180 days to go get your site plan. So the board divided our case in to
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separate orders, one to remove millings and then one to obtain a site plan. I
[01:31:33] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice
don't remember there being two fines imposed,
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did,
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my point is I
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now if you're saying I it's
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I did tell you and I
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done with this. You
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[01:32:00] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
we have to move on.
[01:32:01] Speaker 4
Now, darlin can check the orders, but I believe that there was two.
[01:32:05] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
There are two orders that I see in the packet. And
[01:32:09] Speaker 4
two separate fines.
[01:32:10] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice
I just personally don't remember
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was 30
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for the millions and 180 days for
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the site plan.
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There
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go. 25
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days to me are not the issue. It was just the fine why was there two fines? for One violation. But I don't know that it matters at the moment.
[01:32:57] Speaker 17
No, I still plan to get this all done, but I just wanted, I'd like to know where I stand. But right now I don't know where I stand. I i
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[01:33:09] Speaker 17
even if there is a fine for the millions, why would I get it? It's done.
[01:33:12] Speaker 2
Well, once again, you're gonna ‸ have to get with Mr. Bunk on Monday. And then you guys can talk about that and get whoever he needs to get there or whoever you need to get there. But ‸ at this time you even admit it you're in non-compliant.
[01:33:32] Speaker 17 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So
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and that's all we're
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to
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with tonight
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Yes
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sir. And that's all
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to deal with tonight.
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all
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the cycle and
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hadn't realized I had reached that? To be honest ‸ October 20th. October 20th. ‸ All
[01:33:48] Speaker 2
right. Well, we thank you for being here, but I'll
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get together and see where you stand.
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Okay. I'll
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am.
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‸ Thank
[01:34:05] Speaker 2
you very much. ‸ All right. Next. Number two
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[01:34:19] Speaker 7 (introduced as “Augusto Gonzalez” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
took through my re-inspections of the property. They accurately depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the code board on September 21st, 2023.
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exterior general condition section 6-1003
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done to the property. roof
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property owner has a road permit issued an
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permit and review status, but the property remains in violation. and ‸ property owner is not present
[01:35:15] Speaker 4
And just for the record, this
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[01:35:21] Speaker 4
the ceiling has been falling in and they've been just kind of painting over it and putting up different tape and trying to paint over it because the roof actually leaks into the building. And that's another picture of the same.
[01:35:35] Speaker 1
and Do you have pictures of the exterior, too?
[01:35:37] Speaker 4
Yes. This is the overhangs. The wood on these overhangs are rotten. You can see here where this balcony ‸ starting to erode and decay. And then this is what the exterior of the building looks like with mold and mildew um all the way down the sides. And then here you got some rotted wood at the overhang. And then this is runs along the whole top of the building, the mold and mildew.
[01:36:04] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And their permit issues, they've applied for permits? They
[01:36:08] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
have one permit that's been issued, sir. The other one's under review. One's for electrical. And then the roof has been actually issued. So hopefully they will fix the roof.
[01:36:19] Speaker 7 (introduced as “Augusto Gonzalez” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I do have contact with the owner. He's aware of the status and what's going on and he's going to keep work on everything. And when he's ready to come in for production
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knew that he was supposed to be here tonight. Yes.
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He didn't
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show it the first hearing either. Okay.
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on the floor with the second all in favor say aye. Aye. aye Those opposed pass unanimously. ce
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took through my reinfections
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the property. They accurately depict the property during my visits. This case is brought to the code board on September 21st, 2023
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the exterior general condition. Section 6-1003
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of the roof protective treatment and exterior structure. The board order compliance date was October 21st, 2023. I sent the notice of hearing for non-compliance on November 2nd, 2023 and it was sent certified and posted. I have not had contact with the property owner and at this time the property remains in violation. The
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oh man. I'd like to make a motion.
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Yes, sir. Okay. uh CE 23 109 15 North 5th
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that we find in non-compliance.
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passes unanimously All right. We have a lien reduction. It
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Lane. the
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found the
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following. Exterior general conditions. ‸ Section 6-1003A. Maintenance of the interior structure. Section 6-1004A. Pools and spas. Section 6-1002A. Accessory structure Section 6-1001G. Weeds. Section 6-1001D. Failure
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Premises identification. Section 6-1009C. Wrongful disposal of exterment
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1. Section 22-4. The
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with the Code Enforcement Board's order, a non-compliance hearing
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until compliance was achieved. On August 10th
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Code
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case was closed, leaving
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fine of 52 660 The
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making recommendation its
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the time the violations occurred, no. If the applicant resides ‸ the property,
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no.
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This is a rental property. The number of violations related to the subject lien, nine. Number of inspections performed, 38.
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property taxes the
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year. The taxes were paid on October 16, 2023, and no amounts are owed at this time. Other liens records
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no outstanding liens in the property, no water liens. Property inspection this property was inspected this morning, November 16, 2023, and was in compliance before the Code Board hearing. An inspection will also occur prior to the Council meeting. The
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a single family residence. The property was cited with a home, and staff submits their cost sheet in the total
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right,
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sworn in.
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‸ the ‸ whole truth, and nothing
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the truth, so help you God. Yes, ‸ Please state your name and address for the record and the microphone, please. louis
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David
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You have the floor. Thank you. uh Yeah, I was here 30 days ago, and I was grateful to be here because I got to listen to other homeowners who are dealing with the same lien reductions. And I noticed all of them said, you know, I didn't know, my property manager didn't tell me, and that type of, uh I'm not gonna ‸ say excuses, but those type of statements. In my case, I've been aware of these things the entire time since about this property, since day one. So what happened on my end is that I bought the property on October 30th, and my first contact with the officer, Katie Craver was November 19th. I
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have proof of every of every single contact, of every text message, of every photo, of every permit. So if you, at any moment, you want proof, I can provide that now. um After meeting with them, I asked for a walkthrough so they can, I was, let me, let me back up. The day of closing, I knew of the violations, and I bought the property regardless. So
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bought it, I set up the time on November 19th to meet with the officer to walk the property so I can then clean out whatever needed to be cleaned out and bring the property back to compliance. um I met with the officer. We walked through the entire property, um
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after I did that, ‸ requested another inspection. And then at that point, I was asked to do more things. And ‸ then I requested no
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more inspections and I was asked to do more things. that's
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never ended. So finally, um well, let me, let me, let me, let me say this. So that was November 19th. My first meeting, according to the paperwork that I have, the
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the, uh month eight, uh
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I want to let you know that I have text messages. I have permits that were pulled during that entire time. So how was, how is it possible that I had no idea that there was a lead running yet? I've been talking 100 with code enforcement all the time, building department, pulling permits, doing all. But yeah, I have no idea. Now I have a, um I think I have an idea what happened. I have a, which I pulled from public record, a letter that was sent to the previous owner while the property was mine on December 19th. I have here the letter that was sent. It was a notice letting them know that there was going to be a lien imposed on the property, but I
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date this was sent was November 19th. I bought ‸ the property on October 30th and ‸ it looks like they revised it again, December 28th, the
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the lien. I didn't know about the lien, but they were mailing the previous owner. When I found out, I found out maybe a month before the, the, ‸ lien stopped at that point. The
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beautiful as you can see. um but by then I, when I, I got a letter in the mail, I don't remember how exactly I found out, but immediately I called court enforcement. I said Hey, what's going on? Why do I have this fine for 52
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said, okay, well, let's meet at the property. We did our inspection and they stopped the lien. And ever since then, after that, i mean trying to get into this
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but it's been more permanent and more stuff and more stuff. So here,
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So that's why I request that it should be zero because it wasn't i was ignoring it. It wasn't that it wasn't present. It wasn't that my property manager, manager didn't tell me. I've been aware of this. I've been meeting with the city manager. I've been meeting with, uh talking with Mr.
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yeah, that's my story.
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Mr. Chair. ‸ a question on this, please? Yes, sir. This home, when
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I bought it. now the violation Before you bought ‸ Yes, sir. You bought the house that would it had all the violations and all the problems.
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Yes.
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Okay. When you bought it, did you buy it
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a title company? Yes,
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knew about these violations, but they were just violations. So ‸ I bought the property anyways. I told title to let's go ahead and close and i that I was going to take care of those violations once I bought it. Does that
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So I closed on October 30th and by November 19th, I have my first walk through with the court enforcement agent back in the day, Katie
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done. And after that was just a nightmare because it required more meetings and more walkthroughs ‸ every time they added more to the list and it never ended. And here I am three years later.
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of time and there's a lot to it. And some of it pertains to the actual violations and corrections and then other things pertain to him getting here for a
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the pool was green. You saw the previous pictures. Mr. Silver did not own the property when it looked like this. um
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the property. So between the, before the non-compliance hearing. But after the first hearing, he purchased it. miss Carver submitted the notice of violation to the new owner. And he was actually the person noticed to come to the non-compliance hearing. um because he took ownership of the property. Once he took ownership, he began working. And what he's referring to is he had to get window permits to replace those windows that were smashed out. He
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That took time. But when his case complied at the 50 000 mark, he was done. He'd applied for a lien reduction. But as we know, the property must be in full compliance in order to come before this board. And he had little things like a hot water heater that didn't get permitted. He
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in compliance with this original notice ‸ for quite some time. It just took him this long to get to the board because of things like outdoor storage on the property when we did our inspection. Or like I said, the hot water heater needing a permit. Or he would have been here last month, but they had a plumbing issue and he fixed it. And he didn't have a permit to do so. So I just wanted to be clear that the length of time for the actual lien was not substantial. It was not three years. Once he took over the property, he began working on it and fixing it. But the
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home. And he
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the other meetings and stuff that he's referring to was him trying to get here to ask for the lien reduction. But we can't hear a lien reduction unless the property is in 100 compliance with all city code. So he was running into problems with that through tenants and stuff. But what pertains to the lien, he wasn't the owner in the beginning. He took the property. He fixed it up to what it looks like today. But he did not own the property in those first pictures that you've seen. That
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the lien reduction. And I mean, I don't see it the ‸ actual orders in the packet. But the application says that the lien was imposed 5
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compliance date was 9 8 2020 So something's not right there. Do you
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Mr. Chair, do you mind if I ask ‸ All right, sir, how much
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you purchase the property for? 70
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much did you spend rehabbing the property about 60
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okay
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and the title company told you before purchasing the property that there were violations committed to that. um ‸ but you said you didn't know the amount of the fines. Why did it not occur to you to figure that out prior to purchasing? I'm just wondering.
[01:51:43] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So there are different things to my understanding. The violations did not have a number attached to that. There was just violations that needed to be corrected. And that I, if, if I correct it on time, I was able to get them removed. And I've done that before. So the, the numbers I started occurring once the lien got imposed to the house, that was 225
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those are different things to my understanding.
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Okay. At
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the moment that I bought the property, I will not have bought the property if there was a lien on it or if there was already a violation or a fine imposed on, on the property. because
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you said that you knew that there was violations, but you bought it anyway because you were going to fix them later, quote unquote. That was your testimony here earlier. Yes. I'm,
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I don't,
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I just said that I've
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bought it because the violations I bought it knowing that there was violations, ‸ knowing that I was going to be able to correct them. But there
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my understanding, I didn't know the violations had already a number a fine attached to them. There was just violations that you needed to correct. But
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weren't
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the notice of non-compliance Dennis, is that correct? He was sent the notice of non-compliance Yes,
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that's correct. And then to answer the question on the.
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So how did
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you not know? It was never sent to
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me. It was sent to
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sent to you.
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It was sent to, uh that's right there. Can
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you share that to him? Make sure that that's his address. yes yes
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Yeah. So that was my address. I've
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never seen it. I have a text message with, uh okay. I have a text message with, uh officer Craver in back in February, i'm
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her that I needed to refinance my house and that I needed to clear the violations. It's been too long to please, you know, let's walk that house one more time and do it. What I'm trying to say to you today is if I knew. That this was happening, I will not have that conversation with her and I don't know
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why
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we, we've been talking for many months with this, uh agent yet. I was never told in person or in writing that this was happening on my back while I was working on the property while I was trying to comply with you guys. So that's the thing I've never seen this paper in my life. First
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guys. Please don't get offended. um
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I have a finding of fact. I don't know if Darla has the order imposing. um his compliance date was December 19th. Of course, we don't have a board meeting in December. um officer Carver left and officer
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took over. It did not come back for non-compliance until May of 2021. um
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the non-compliance hearing wasn't heard until May because Steve
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that went to silver enterprises. Correct.
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And so we noticed him before for the non-compliance because he was a current owner and we posted the property. Was
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he present
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I didn't
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know about ‸ But
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52 000
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i
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was in
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full contact with them at all times hang
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on or 52 000.
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when you finished rehabbing this. uh when did you put tenants in ‸ the, in this property?
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What was that again?
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The last part? When did you finish the property and when did you move tenants in this property?
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uh
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he
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it was empty for a while He, he did not put tenants in. um and then in 2022, he did install some tenants, but by then you ready to do the lien reduction. Of course they leave stuff underneath the carport. They leave items in the backyard. These things all delayed Mr. Silver from getting here. But I ‸ wanted to focus on where the lien actually was. The lien was not in all these inspections that we have been doing with him. Most recently, he corrected them in a fairly timely manner. um that's why his
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000. but he had a lot of work to do he had to redo the interior. um it was
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on the inside of the living room. The laundry room had electrical issues. He had to get an electrician. um so once he took over the property, he worked pretty hard to get it
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you know
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fixed.
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I'd like to make a motion on this, please. On, uh this lien reduction, 19-1157, uh that's
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be reduced
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We're gonna ‸ round things off, make it simple. It's Christmas time. We're gonna ‸ give some yeah
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[01:57:40] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I say disagree or this is not the right moment to say that? That's not the right moment.
[01:57:44] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, I mean, it's kind of unique that we have someone come in here and say, hey, I did a title search and I knew about these violations, but I bought it anyway. Yeah. um I have a problem with that because this is the taxpayers money, to be honest. You understand
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[01:58:04] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And you knew before you bought the property. You were noticed to come to the hearing, even though you say I didn't get it. You have a piece of paper in front of you and they say they mailed it. That's not my address.
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We
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standard is to send the certified as the primary, but then we automatically post all the properties as well. That way if it doesn't get delivered certified, the property in violation is posted. We do that on every code case.
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So that means in theory, if someone's working on their property, they have to walk by that sign that says this property is in violation. Is that what you say?
[01:58:47] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yes. And we need primary service and secondary service all at the same time. So there's no issues in service.
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we
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I, I, what I'm saying, what I was agreeing with is if they post a sign, my workers were there, I will go there often. We never saw that sign.
[01:59:27] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And that's, that's one question you're asking. And ‸ the other one is that how long you've been doing this, uh silver enterprises services? Since 2020,
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I
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believe it was established. And how
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me like you, you buy homes and you flip them. Is
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I probably don't four or five. So you've done four to five ‸ Yes, sir.
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homes
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you ever run into any issues like this?
[01:59:58] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
uh Yes. With the city of Sanford, it was violations, no money attached. I bought the property. We clear out, made it the most beautiful property on the street and
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[02:00:20] Speaker 15
So you are familiar with with issues when they come to code enforcement and yes issues that they come in and let you know that there's something on permits and all that. Yes. you know You know the process. Yes. And
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that you miss a sign that says you're in violation. Yes. Even though you've done this four or five times. well
[02:00:51] Speaker 18
Yeah. What I'm saying is the sign was if it was posted, it got removed. We never saw it. It wasn't like it was there and I ignore it. I walk by it. ‸ What here's here's what please listen to this and you can make the decisions that you want that you need. But listen to this. How is it possible?
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communications with this court enforcement agents and building departments? And I will let this link go through all that same at the same time. Do you think I would have known? If I would have allowed that to happen? If that's that's ‸ why I'm trying to explain to you and show you that I'm being honest with you. i
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i
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[02:01:37] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
what you I don't disagree with any of your arguments about yes. the value I knew about about the violations. Yes. I know the process. But at the same time there was things that they were done ‸ on my back. Not because of ‸ their fault or not because they were doing it on purpose, but it was incorrectly. Can I share a little experience building department went to my house to do an inspection that same house and they, um they failed the inspection because they found other work that was done without a permit. You know what happened? The other work that was done have been done with the permit under the old system that they used to have. the
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not know and couldn't find it on his computer, but it was there. I was able to prove it. I
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got it all cleared out. the Same things happening here, ‸ but that is that's all I'm going to say. I
[02:02:34] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
just want to say, I like what you've done to the work and I'm i'm glad you're doing this this type of work here in coco
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To say at least, like we definitely need it. um But I
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um I don't know if I would agree with the 3800 rounding up. i
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well there's ‸ so i
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and i Mr. Chairman, I'd like to um send ‸ motion please.
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Okay, there's one motion on the floor.
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i think i thought
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did Did anyone second that motion? no
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Can we amend that motion then? His motion?
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Just to make a new motion. You have
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can be a second motion. But what I want you to understand, um number one, even if we went with whatever they're discussing, I know you one
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um if we went
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could be just putting it out
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go with the recommendation of staff. um
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uh
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that
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the, uh charge, um the lien be reduced to 3756 with 37 cents.
[02:04:48] Speaker 6
And I second ‸ I
[02:04:52] Speaker 2
have a motion on the floor with a second. All in favor say aye aye. Aye. Those opposed.
[02:04:58] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Nay. Nay.
[02:05:01] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
All right. I have four, four and two against. The motion passes by majority.
[02:05:11] Speaker 4
And I would just like to let Mr. Silver know that this is a ‸ recommendation to city council. So this is the board's recommendation. The council will still have to hear it and then they can alter, you know, higher lower whatever they decide. They're the final say. So I just wanted to let you know that this
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recommendation. Okay. Thanks.
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you
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you. I appreciate you coming. all right so We have some other business we need to discuss. We have a, have to take a vote on a December meeting. all right. So I am making a motion to not have a meeting in December.
[02:06:14] Speaker 1
You're entertaining a motion
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I'm making a motion. So
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[02:06:36] Speaker 2
So I am making a motion that we enjoy our December holidays, uh without having a meeting with the notion and understanding that we look forward to a nice lengthy meeting on January to bring the year in. Well, hopefully not.
[02:07:00] Speaker 4
Hopefully we'll get good compliance.
[02:07:03] Speaker 2
Okay. That's like saying my kids at my school are all
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going
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to be good. Gotta have
[02:07:09] Speaker 4
some hope.
[02:07:09] Speaker 1
I
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do.
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I
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I would just, I wanted to talk we
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it yet.
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Well, what is there to talk about? he
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historical. We've been doing it for over 20 years. Yeah. It's been a long
[02:07:31] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
time. We need to make a change. I like it. Wait, huh? Do
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you want to have
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do you think the work in December is that we said, do you want to come and share the meeting?
[02:07:42] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it'll just be December 18th. Right. So we'll
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Oh, man.
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I love
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it.
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okay
[02:08:08] Speaker 10
Majority rules, I guess.
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So, have a motion on the floor with the second. All in favor say aye. Aye.
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i
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I
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have one announcement. oh
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Bonacore, but I wanted to let the board know that we did hire a new code officer. um he's in the back right there. That's Michael Mack. And he
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actually started in
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uh
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[02:09:12] Speaker 4
Security and he worked on the border in Laredo, but he's back in town and we happen to have the opening. So we're lucky enough to have, um Mr. Michael Mack come back to us and you guys will be seeing him. who
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Mack. uh we appreciate what you'll be doing for the, the city and enjoy our citizens. is there anything else anyone has? oh and by the way, miss
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me to ensure that we clean out our notebooks because she is tired of carrying around these heavy notebooks. Check
[02:09:53] Speaker 3
out all your old agendas except one you might need for the next meeting. because the,
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[02:10:01] Speaker 3
I
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will make a statement. oh I'm
[02:10:04] Speaker 2
sorry. uh miss Hughes has the floor. uh
[02:10:09] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
this is my last meeting. oh I am sorry. You're
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me stay just because I have cocoa water.
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oh
[02:10:26] Speaker 6
so it's been great. Enjoy. And you have two great alternates. So,
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bernard
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you.
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um
[02:10:35] Speaker 6
thank you. Anyway,
[02:10:37] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
well, we will miss you, ma'am. yeah
[02:10:39] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
yeah I will miss all of you, really. It's been quite the education. but you
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All right. And anyone else? Going
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three times. This meeting is adjourned.

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