City Council

City Council Special Meeting

Date
2019-11-22
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #273
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What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (227_CC_Sp_Minutes_11_22_2019.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Jake Williams Jr., Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner
  • Arrived after the roll: Alex Goins (the minutes note: “arrived at 10:12 am.”)
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Listed absent: only the members shown above as arriving after the roll
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), John Titkanich Jr (City Manager), Matthew Fuhrer (Assistant City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Nancy Bunt (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Bryant Smith (Public Works Director)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Brenda Warner, Don Boisvert, Jake Williams Jr., Lorraine Koss (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (4)

  • 1. Agenda: Special Meeting of November 22, 2019 (19-593) — to approve the agenda as presented for the Special meeting of November 22, 2019 (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 4-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • 1. Approve a Resolution Amending the Fiscal Year 2020 Adopted Budget for Purchase Orders Rolled Over to FY20 and to Provide Specific Account — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • 2. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY2019 Budget, through the use of General ; _ £. Fund Balance and Water/Sewer Fund Balance Reserves, d — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to adjourn the Special Meeting of November 22, 2019 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Jake Williams Jr., Alex Goins, Don Boisvert, Lorraine Koss, Brenda Warner; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 5

Transcript Partial transcript

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Mr. City Attorney, you ready?
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Anybody out there ready? Anthony, you ready? Oh, yeah. I'm ready. I thought the meeting was up. Mr. City Manager, you guys ready?
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Yes, Mr. Mayor.
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Okay, are you
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council ready?
[00:00:18] Speaker 3
Ready.
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Okay, we're going to go ahead and call this meeting to order
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location,
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invocation
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Chief Lamb,
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you could please have everyone stand.
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We pray, Lord, that you continue to watch over our employees and our city council, Lord, and be with those who are less fortunate this year, Lord. We ask, Lord,
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this beautiful city of art. Thank you, Lord, for all that you do. Continue to watch over our families. In your holy name we do pray. Amen.
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for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible,
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with liberty and justice for all.
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Roll call, please.
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Mayor Williams? Here. Deputy Mayor
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Here.
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Councilmember Koss? Here. Councilmember Warner? Here. City Attorney Garganese? City Manager
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Here. And Assistant City Manager
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Here. Thank you. Okay, thank you,
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And just for the record, Deputy
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10-10,
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Okay. Item number two, which is
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approve
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of our agenda in minutes. Our special meeting from
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Motion to approve.
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Councilman Cost.
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[00:02:23] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passes unanimously. Got awards and presentation? None. Delegation? None. Wow. Reports and reports. Many board members or committee members? Seeing none. Mr. Public ‸ Works Director? I don't... Do
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you
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have any reports or...
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you, sir.
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No report.
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annual Chris Daniels Memorial Golf Tournament. We'll be at Turtle Creek tomorrow morning. It's an 8 o'clock shotgun start. There is still opening, so if anybody feels energetic and wants to come out and play, we'll welcome you. Also, next Tuesday,
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doing fill the truck, fill the box, food drive, collecting canned goods, and then on... A lot of stuff coming up.
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be back out at Walmart doing a toy drive. So, again, please stop by. Thank you, sir.
[00:03:50] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to say that I'm happy to announce that we've met our quota of 150
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so thank you to everyone who donated.
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The family will be picking them up from 1 to 5 at Fire Station 1, so we'd love to have you come out and spend some time with the families and the crews as they
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[00:04:13] Speaker 1
Thank you. Thank you, sir.
[00:04:15] Speaker 6
I have no report.
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Just want to thank everybody for their well wishes while I was out and wish everybody, I know, next week's Thanksgiving, so wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving.
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Thank you, sir.
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Councilwoman Warner.
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No report, just happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I just
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have one thing.
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meetings, why we can't just have one at City Hall
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[00:05:04] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
throughout the whole city. Just have it in the council chambers. You know what I'm talking about?
[00:05:12] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
You're talking about the strategic
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planning meeting?
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The strategic planning team came up with a design for the purposes of trying to get out throughout the entire community and meet with the respective residents within each of the council districts.
[00:05:31] Speaker 2
Okay.
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We do have a call in with them today to kind of discuss that, So we could look at some alternative options, but we just want to make sure that we do get some representation throughout the city.
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just say, and I also spoke with them yesterday afternoon about that because ‸ I was arranging for Cocoa High School to be the meeting place for District 4, so they may be condensing that just, you know, in terms of what numbers
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they could expect
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in each of the districts.
[00:06:11] Speaker 6
The only thing I wanted to ask was we went to,
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with you and Alex, the Rockledge meeting on Wednesday, and they have, on their agendas, they have a litigation report. And I was just wondering if that's something that we could incorporate. I mean, I've only heard about litigation a couple of times since I've been a council, but they, as a regular part of their meeting, they report on the ‸ status of litigation and, you know, what's up.
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I'd be happy.
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‸ In practice,
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[00:06:58] Speaker 10
work product, and privileges. And the public disclosure of that type of information when we're defending cases, we've just never done that. In practice, I'd be happy to talk to any of the council members ‸ regarding any of the pending litigation that we have. So, just as a matter of practice, we haven't done that.
[00:07:23] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
Okay. It hasn't been a problem for them, so why would we have issues? And when you say client, lawyer privilege, are we talking about, like, you know, I have no idea what litigation we're involved in, and all of that is outside of your retainer, right?
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going on out there that, you know, may be a liability or a problem. Mm-hmm. And maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, but I was just, I was surprised to see that on their agenda, and it is a monthly report. Yeah, actually, Just like a police report.
[00:08:07] Speaker 10
Yeah, actually, I'm surprised to see something like that on the agenda.
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defenses that the city has regarding pending litigation. So, you know, there are, that information is exempt from public disclosure.
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the city council regarding any questions they may have. We're in constant communication with the city manager regarding pending litigation. Some of the, you know, some of the information, you know, regarding previous pending cases had to deal with them. Just general slip and fall liability cases that we, that we, that we handle.
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et cetera, et cetera, that
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that
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an open public meeting.
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Is it possible that they're, what they're reporting on is like closed and finished litigation cases?
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I'm not sure.
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It would
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be worth checking on. I mean, I just, you know, was surprised to see that and realized, oh, I have no idea what litigation we're involved in, but I know that's all outside of the retainer.
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I mean, maybe it's just a part of our discussion, my discussion with the city manager.
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and I see where Anthony's coming from, is that, you know, if they're in the middle of litigation, ‸ you certainly don't want to have that discussion openly up here because it can, it can hurt us more, you know, in the long run. Well, I'm not asking for details. Yeah, I know. Just to be aware of what's,
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create vulnerabilities for us,
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but
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on the other hand, the elected representatives of people ‸ should have
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access we should know,
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but
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I mean,
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access
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to that
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information.
[00:10:18] Speaker 1
But it, I don't think it should be in this venue.
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It
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should be, you know, more than a one-on-one deal, I think. I mean, I don't know exactly what their deal is. I saw it on there. Yeah,
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I'll just maybe check with them.
[00:10:28] Speaker 1
Yeah.
[00:10:29] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. I'd be happy to sit down with you and they can give you the run of the mill as ‸ the manager. Every audit season, you get a complete, full, detailed report on every ‸ claim. And
[00:10:44] Speaker 6
when does that happen?
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During the audit.
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Of course. But it's exempt
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from public records disclosure and being confidential. ‸ You know, in addition, there's risk management issues too because part of the risk management program through the Florida League of Cities, some cases are covered by insurance defense. So, you know, we're coordinating not only with the city manager but we're coordinating with ‸ the insurance.
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company
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which I went to the insurance contract that the city has for coverage.
[00:11:22] Speaker 6
Okay.
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So,
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I'd be happy to sit down and lay it
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all out for you if you would like to show you. Yeah,
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that radar screen looks like.
[00:11:38] Speaker 10
I can give you a general ballpark on average annually. I mean, we're evaluating somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 or 50 ‸ claims ‸ reporting on ‸ any given year. Some are in suit, some are not. Some are being ‸ handled by ‸ the city's insurance carrier and their adjustment adjuster team.
[00:12:07] Speaker 6
Okay, well, I would like to have that discussion.
[00:12:10] Speaker 10
I'd be happy.
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Okay, thank you. That's, and just happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
[00:12:16] Speaker 1
Thank you. Just for record, I'm a different where everyone's is there. Sir, reports, do you have any?
[00:12:28] Speaker 15
Sorry about that. Sorry, I apologize for being late.
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man from Coco. He's juvenile, got in a lot of trouble. Another case of fatherless homes. not having a lot of male influence around. So that's why I was late this morning, so I apologize for that. ‸ Great event this week, Thanksgiving, Jolie Smith Center, was awesome. I didn't eat a lot of food because some of my officers ate all the ‸ food. ‸ But it was a great event just to see people out and ‸ loving on one another. I think that's what we need more in this country. And definitely more in this city, just more love for one another. So it was an awesome event. I went to Melbourne as well.
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p.m. in Melbourne at Lipscomb Street Park. ‸ So yesterday was just full of great, this is a great day just being around people. So that's all I really have. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Enjoy your family because you never know what's around the corner. So we need to enjoy one another as much as we can.
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Don, don't eat too much. Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you.
[00:13:59] Speaker 1
Thank you, sir. I got a couple things here.
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on some things that I had on this list right here that I want to talk about. But I attended the swearing in of Councilman Elect Cador and re-election of Councilman Ferguson. And that was a nice event at the city
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And also got to pay some additional respect to
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council with the city of Rockledge. And it was so nice to see all the folks that actually came out to recognize him as well as ‸ all the individuals that represented everyone from Governor Scott, well former Governor Scott office Governor DeSantis, Senator Wright,
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Senator Mayfield, and just a whole host of them sent their resolutions or whatever from their staff. ‸ So it was really nice to see that as well as this city, the
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But it was well-deserved and really nice event. And also ‸ the turkey dinners last night at Jolie Smith. Would have loved to have seen more staff there, but it was ‸ probably about roughly I'd say close to probably 200, 250 people there maybe. ‸ but it was a nice event. Plenty of food. And I
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for all their donations. I think the city ‸ played a role as well with this ‸ and the county and all that donated. Man, it was a super nice event. Food was excellent. From what I can see, watching Lieutenant
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and we thank you guys for coming out Chief, Lieutenant
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and
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Okay. Appreciate you guys
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coming out there for
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that event. And Christmas decorations. Hopefully, you know, next year, whoever's here, I hope that we can do a little bit better. I mean, I like some of the stuff that I see up on the light poles, but
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it would
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be so nice to really do a little bit more than what we do
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as far as
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‸ decorating for Christmas holidays throughout our city. So I don't know if they're
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I don't think they are, but it'd be nice to see a little bit more than what we're seeing. But anyway, with that being said, we can go ahead ‸ and move on. And ‸ we have our consent agenda, none, public hearing,
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business, none, city business, one. Rebecca. Yes, ma'am, we've done
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[00:17:25] Speaker 1
What's the wishes of the council? If you guys want to do that, I mean, we've passed that, but. you guys have an issue, any concerns with doing that?
[00:17:39] Speaker 6
No, it's three minutes. No,
[00:17:42] Speaker 1
I understand that. I understand it's three minutes. I just want to, you know, we've gone past delegations, I just want to make sure that it's okay that we do.
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not something that we normally do. Yeah.
[00:17:52] Speaker 3
As long as we're not setting a precedent.
[00:17:55] Speaker 1
Yeah.
[00:17:56] Speaker 3
Are we setting a precedent? I mean, ‸ somebody going to come to the next meeting and go, hey, you did it at your last meeting?
[00:18:02] Speaker 1
Well, that's why I'm asking you all, if this is something you all want to do, I mean, I'm not making that decision, I'm just giving you all the options. She's a resident of
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Yeah, so I think she'll give her three minutes and be done with it.
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Is
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‸ mayor going? Councilwoman Warner?
[00:18:24] Speaker 3
I just have concerns that if we do it once, we have to continue to do it, and I don't ever remember that we've done it before, so that's my only concern, so I'd like the attorney's opinion.
[00:18:34] Speaker 10
‸ It's a discretion of the city council.
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mean, the agenda has been set, the delegation portion of the meeting, people have an opportunity to come and timely submit their comments, so I mean, discretion at this point, if you want to reorder your agenda at this late stage, given the delegation portion of the meetings already occurred.
[00:18:54] Speaker 1
And I mean,
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have a meeting at this time, so I mean, it could have been some other factors, I'm just...
[00:19:04] Speaker 3
you're in charge, Mr. Mayor.
[00:19:06] Speaker 1
Okay, well, yes, ma'am, you can come on up and speak for three minutes, just state your name and address, and we'll go ahead and...
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thank you. Thank
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1200 Clear Lake Road.
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but I do,
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so I'm asking if I could please have 10 minutes with him, and
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but
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because I now have new evidence that's going to show what I've been trying to get you guys to see. That's really it.
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Yes, ma'am, that's up to the chief if he has the time, you know.
[00:20:01] Speaker 14
I can't get you to respond to me at the police department, so that's the only reason that I'm bothering them,
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We can move on to city business. Finance director.
[00:20:20] Speaker 7
Yes, mayor and council, this agenda item is a request to approve a resolution amending the fiscal year 2020 adopted budget for purchase orders rolled over to fiscal year 20,
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money for capital projects through the use of various fund balance reserves and to transfer fiscal year 20 budget for specific items identified as requiring additional budget. So, this agenda item is requesting budget to be rolled over as basically three parts. One part of it is that at the end of the fiscal year, there were purchase orders that were open. Some of them came forward to council as multi-year agreements. Some of them were intended to be completed in the fiscal year 19, and they, for whatever reason, were not completed. So, budget amendment number 20-012, A1 and A2, is a request to roll over the balances that were left on those purchase orders. Then, secondarily, there were some projects that were budgeted in fiscal year 20, and the projects were not started, but basically, they accounted for that money as if it was going to be spent already when we calculate fund balance reserves and other reporting. So, we're requesting for that budget, uncommitted capital budget, to be rolled over. And then, in addition, as part of a regular analysis, staff goes through the budget each month and determines if there's anything in the budget that needs to be cleaned up.
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budget needed to move around, that it was in the incorrect account, or we discovered through process that it was in the wrong place, so we're requesting for it to be transferred.
[00:22:24] Speaker 1
Thank you, ma'am. What's the wishes of the council?
[00:22:27] Speaker 2
Motion or opposed?
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All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? It passes unanimously. Item number two.
[00:22:42] Speaker 7
Item number two is a request to approve a resolution amending the fiscal year 2019 budget through the use of general fund balance and water and sewer fund balance reserves due to Hurricane Dorian unbudgeted expenses and
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items. So as council is aware, Hurricane Dorian struck in September and anytime there's an emergency like that, the cost of that
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not budgeted. So the one budget amendment is using fund balance reserves ‸ to provide budget for the cost related to Hurricane Dorian. and then
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in addition to budget transfer 19-118 T1 and T2 are as a result of analysis at the end of the fiscal year. There's a lot of accounting entries that occur that cause accounts to go over budget. budget and ‸ so this agenda item is providing budget for those types of items. We have 60 days after the end of the fiscal year according to state statute to clean up our budget and so this agenda item is cleaning up that budget.
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Thank
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you ma'am. Those wishes of the council? Motion to approve.
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a motion from ‸ councilman Warner. Second.
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All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Passage unanimously.
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so if I can entertain them.
[00:24:22] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
Mr. Mayor,
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tonight
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Yes, sir. Just a point of privilege. Since the issue of litigation came up just a few moments ago the
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Court of Appeal just upheld the Circuit Court's decision which upheld the city's Code Enforcement Board decision ‸ in
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is the tiny home slash bed and breakfast case that ‸ we've been successfully defending
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just affirmed the Code Board's decision a few moments ago.
[00:24:53] Speaker 2
Awesome.
[00:24:54] Speaker 1
Thank you, sir.
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We got a motion to adjourn.
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Second.
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All right.
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