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Sustainability Board

Sustainability Advisory Board Regular Meeting

Date
2022-12-01
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
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Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Mervis, Shan Lathem, Dick Bankhead, Cynthia Johnson, Kimberly Prosser, Jennifer Riggs, Joy Rutherford
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lorraine Koss (Councilmember), Monica Arsenault (Recording Secretary)

Adopted actions (0)

  • None recorded.

Agenda (the City's wording)

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Transcript Partial transcript

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To assure that the fulfilled goal happens and occurs. I've been here and I've been there to
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achieve success. We don't have a lot of time, but we must use our time widely. Achieving the goal is more important than proving the point of the moment. Our task is formidable. The reward for our ‸ success is sustainable. Two quick points of illustration that I have some expertise in. Affordable housing. One of the fastest growing problems in America. It's interesting to know all over the country, affordable housing is deemed by city after city, community after community, large or small, ‸ as a disaster. And the solutions, quite frankly, there are none. There's certainly none that are provable that you could say, I'm going to invest $3 million in this solution and tomorrow I'm going to have a problem to affordable housing. I've been involved in five different major affordable housing initiatives. One involving millions of dollars. They've all failed to be sustainable over a period of time. One example, just to give you a sense of how difficult this is. A huge amount of money was invested to upgrade existing community housing stock in three neighborhoods in Milwaukee. This stock was superbly built in its initial days. Hardwood floors, stained glass windows and houses, marble countertops, real marble, not that whatever, whatever that fake stuff is called.
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People were trained from the neighborhood to do the work. So we engaged people to work. And we got help from the
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university's
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design department. And what happened out of 400 units that were
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50 were resold and recovered the investment in that property. The problem is you take a piece of property that's on the market for, say, $50,000, you have to invest $70,000, $80,000, $90,000 to bring electrical up to speed, plumbing up to speed, remove
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the floors, put in refrigerators, ovens, stoves, and now you have a property that should be worth on the market 140, 160 and its price is 62, 67, 71, 78 or 57, 58, 55. And so that though if you had unlimited resources that would be a great way to save communities and develop affordable housing. Other people have tried designs, different designs, smaller housing, we have some of that around here, different building materials. The people I respect in this field say that the answer will come when the feds and states and local communities look at this like they just we just
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attack
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the computer chip dilemma, which is you create a kind of funding that's three-tiered and you say we've got to innovate, the local ‸ government entities got to approve around zoning, planning, building codes, you know,
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have a national initiative to try to innovate in such a way that we can provide affordable housing. The gap is getting so big that we are very near having a time where there will be no place for affordable housing because it can't be built. You'll either be able to afford market housing somehow or you'll be stacked up in god knows what. So that's just an example of that to me is a reality check. Check. I know the village is working on affordable housing initiatives but boy if you really want to solve it and get enough units to deal with the problem, it's a massive, tough task. And that's one of the tasks we have on our plate. The other thing is storm water. I hate to say this but I'm a storm water freak. I love
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stormwater.
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And what
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around the country who really know storm water and
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‸ It's a game of taking massive amounts of water that don't want to go where
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you want them to go and trying to figure out a way to get them to go there. That's what storm water management is in
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on the roofs goes down into a storm water management system that's under everything.
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In one
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part,
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there's 90,000 gallons of storage storm water storage underneath that park. You walk across that park you would
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All the streets are porous. So underneath the streets the water seeps into the streets through sources on the side of the streets goes into underneath. Same thing storm water management. So when you're doing infrastructure work you're also doing storm water management which is the ultimate in sustainability and you're stopping flooding. The other great thing about the storm water management system
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which lead to problems of all kinds.
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It
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going to see a bioswale.
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Not flooding dampness. And so when the storm water comes, all the storm water runs off the street into the bioswales not into the sewer system. It goes into the bioswales. The plants absorb a significant portion of the pollutants that are in ‸ the gunk that's coming off the street. Then underneath it it goes into the storm water management. Sits in a filter system again which is
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That works the same way. So that's a thing that's solvable.
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So it's like a lot of things that we're going to be faced with. There are solutions and they're not necessarily costly solutions but they require their commitment solutions I guess is a good way to put it. And so I'm excited about the task we're taking on. It's not an easy task. The solutions are not, I don't think it's
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They may be difficult. I hope we can find a pacing that we can get some early wins because I think early wins are important. I ‸ think it's important that we find a way to have good dialogue with the council and staff that helps the council out.
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and that we have to be able to work and find compromise and to get to the solutions to the problems that are put on our plate. So that was kind of my little opening shtick. Stockton, I'm going to turn it over to you.
[00:08:56] Speaker 2
I appreciate it, sir. So, um, you know, at the last meeting, uh, we went through an overview of your duties, functions, and roles and responsibilities. Um, we talked about, um, the sunshine law. Uh, you obviously you selected the chair and vice chair. Um,
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um,
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and then your, your meeting schedule.
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going to come back and have an update on, on the plan. Just what's happened, uh, within the plan, what's been implemented, what hasn't been implemented.
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so I'm going to do that, uh, not on the entire plan because it's, it's a massive document, but, but, uh, the plan does outline the sort of first year, um, priorities and objectives and initiatives there.
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Um,
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so you're doing item three on here.
[00:09:57] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Uh, yes, sir. I am. I am update status report on sustainability action plan.
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Thank you.
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Um, so, um,
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I think we have that document in front of you guys, so we can sort of walk through that together. Okay.
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‸ And
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let
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others who are certainly, uh, well versed in what those are
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explain
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what those are, but for the five star goals are the built environment, equity and empowerment, um, health and safety, natural systems,
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the
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objectives
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and the, and the initiatives with regards to those are sort of the spokes to the umbrella, you know, and so how we implement it. So, uh, five goal, five, uh, star objectives. They're up there on the,
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uh,
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on the,
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uh,
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Yes,
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ma'am.
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So
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it is a national sustainability agency and essentially it's, if you're familiar with leads,
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So that's the quality of, of what you're getting in terms of the thinking. Um, and we chose to adopt a star and the national kind of
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metrics and in establishing how organizing itself so that we had some relevance.
[00:11:35] Speaker 3
Quick question. Walking in here. Uh, I see things like that. Do they get down to real things? Yeah.
[00:11:47] Speaker 4
Yes. It's very practical and they, they emphasize measurable results.
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getting it done.
[00:11:53] Speaker 3
Okay. That was just clarification.
[00:11:57] Speaker 4
Yeah. I'm gonna ‸ look at, I, I, let's see if you can. You just can.
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You may steal my thunder.
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I'm
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sorry. But can you, can you, for the committee's sake there, the, the star goals are, these are, these are focus areas or, or can you just give them that sort of definition? Yeah,
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I think if you would go to the plan on page 10, there is a, um, it starts a section about it so that we don't take up time in the meeting tonight. If you just read.
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I'm just.
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Yeah, I wasn't familiar with it, but after reading this,
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mean, it's pretty self-explanatory.
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So these are, these are, can I call them focus areas?
[00:12:38] Speaker 4
I think they're goals if you.
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Okay. But
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just that you're right. It's the highest level.
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Okay.
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organization.
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So, so at a very high level, you're, you're looking at those five things.
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have six objectives. You have 20 initiatives, and then you
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So those are the actionable items that, uh, that, uh, staff can undertake staff.
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city staff is, uh, is, uh, ‸ has the authority to do and we'll, we'll take partnerships. So it's going to be a partnership between, uh, the city council, the, uh, the sustainability board, uh, city staff and citizens there. But just to sort of, you know, frame, and this is, I think, best sort of highlighted in the spreadsheet that's on the end.
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This
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is sort of the framework of that spreadsheet.
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Each,
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each star goals, uh, each star goal has an objective as, uh, initiatives, and then it has actionable items.
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So
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that should be 45 that last bullet is supposed to be 45 where it says 45.
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Oh, it's supposed to say 45. Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
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Uh,
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equity and
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I should read from the paper because I can't see that far. 12 initiatives, 19 action items. And then natural, natural systems is one objective, four initiatives, and 17 action items. Climate and energy, four objectives, 37 initiatives, and, uh, 80 action items. And again, that's my count, you know, because you may have an action item that may have, uh, different subsets or different components of that action item.
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done by next month. That's, yes, sir. That's how I count it. Um,
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are first year recommendations. And again, you know, this is, this, uh, the committee and the board has gone through, um, some changes. And so I think that's a good, uh, place for us to start. Although this is sort of year two of the creation of the board there. I think we need to go back and revisit just what's happened on those sort of first, uh, set of priorities out of the box. And I'll call them that because again, they were listed as,
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there. So for we'll start just as we listed them out on the built environment,
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says to demonstrate a commitment, uh, to local government transparency and public access to water monitoring data.
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what I, what I was referring to earlier, my staff being here sitting around the
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and talking about these things is
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he will say to you, well, what is meant by water monitoring data? What type of data ‸ do you want?
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Was he, was he tied in to y'all when
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He was. And I, I could probably go back and get those specific notes from that meeting. If you want to.
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I'm,
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Yeah. And I looked through here and
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you know, I said, okay, there's something here, here.
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they hadn't seen it. So
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it's been, it's been at least three years, so I'm really pulling in my memory, but. I'm not
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picking.
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No, no, no, but it's, it's useful because it was a really interesting conversation and it was around consumption and where cocoa is as a provider for the whole region and how are we managing consumption. And right now we, you know, or as of that time, looked pretty good in terms of our extended and continuing capacity, but wanted to look at how do we monitor that so that citizens have some self. And
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his, was his staff picked the water one? He's got a whole, or I say he, because I hear everything stock. We got a whole big company out towards Orlando.
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Of, of choosing that one?
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No, no. If, so I assume, I assume, well, I'm sure the, the guy that runs the water place, he's got a set of goals on water management, quality, volume, yada, yada, yada. Yeah. And so when I see the report, so he's, he's got a contract with Stockton on all those things on his job.
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you know, this is a normal situation.
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what I would hope to hear is, yeah, he, he's got a contract with, with Stockton, and it's the same contract that we're looking at right here.
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I don't think so. So the, the methodology.
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think so? What? I'm sorry. Yeah.
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staff on each of the, so look at the very large appendix in the detailed table. And we reviewed that with each staff area. You've already, you've already done
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that.
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We did that. Yeah. As part of the plan. So then as we rolled up though, which of those got selected? Like we weren't as engaged with, with staff at that point. Okay.
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working groups with staff. So, and then they were given them back to have a chance to review and update.
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So that's why Stockton says we need to. Yeah.
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to get something together.
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There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a final product, which is the plan and, and staff was, was presented. These are the draft goals, initiatives and action items there and,
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to respond to that. You know, I don't know how much of their response got incorporated into the final product.
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Jack says on this particular one, and you'll, you'll see there. They're sort of, there's a status report on it. So we're doing things in regards, but, but there's all sort of water data, you know, it says, and the, the, the initiative is to demonstrate a commitment to local government transparency. And public access to water monitoring data. And so there's a drill down of specific type of data. He doesn't know what that is. Sure. But again, we can get to that just by simply staff is here and we're going through each of the star goals and the, the, the responsible staff is, is here asking questions.
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what I do, the restrictions that are, that are placed upon me. If,
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if I may, let's, let's move through all of this because.
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We need to understand this. Yeah. But Dick, just hang on. Well, you took 30 minutes during your.
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to understand what's happening.
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right.
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me out for just a minute.
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Let me finish. If we have six volumes of this, now I have, I have an understanding. But if I don't have an understanding that you met with these people and they know or don't know this, hell, we don't have anything. You understand what I'm saying? I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you.
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Yeah. So I would say that as we left the working groups, that was a consensus approach to with staff and with the board. And then the support staff for the committee was updating those. And there were also a series of interns from FIT that were helping to update those tables and reflect what. ‸ So we have
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a good start. I think so. Okay. But
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I, but I think it could have been tighter and now it's been a few years. So, you know. All right. So now you understand. Yeah.
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‸ A
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quick question. Is anybody else missing this page? Sure.
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all have, um, not
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Except for stuff that.
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Yeah. Okay. So I'm really.
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And like anything that was done two years ago, it was done to the best of, or four years ago, ‸ was done to the best of everybody's ability at the time.
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through it is to better understand what these goals are, what information is available, who has participated in providing the information, the quality of it, and what steps are needed to be taken next.
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And it might help the methodology section. It does go through that process.
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Yeah, I've been hoping.
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Okay, good.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. And so that's, that's not meant as a criticism. I think it's a natural evolution that, that we now come back to the table with staff, with the council, because again, this ‸ probably three of the five member of ‸ councils were, were new to this product too. And so,
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and here's what we mean by this, this goal, this initiative and these action items here, because if you just look at the report, and I, again, I apologize that you guys only have the, the single sided copies.
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so you all got to look up there, but, but if you look at the report, it says the recommendation is to demonstrate a commitment to local, uh, government transparency and public access to water monitoring data. And then I'm going to tell you that, well, it's a requirement, um, that we produce an annual water quality report each year with water monitoring data, you know, so, so, so you, you, you have that recommendation, which we were already doing. And so maybe you meant something different by what's out there. That's all, that's all I'm saying.
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Or it could be a check mark done.
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Well, it was an easy checkmark. And so, um, and, and again, it says this report is printed and electronically placed on the city's website. So you have a full, uh, annual water quality report. That's a, that's a requirement of, uh, probably the consumptive use permit and it's on the website each year. Uh, we also do, uh, place copies at city hall and public library. And, uh, and we, we, we obviously put that report in all of our city communications or at least the data from the report, including social media and newsletters. So, so again, you know,
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that's a check mark, but perhaps not the extent to which the committee wanted to actually go. And so maybe there's something that beyond, uh,
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just the verbiage here.
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water conservation. And again, the requirement of the, of the consumptive use permit is that we have a PR officer, uh, conservation officer that is dedicated to promoting the, uh, water conservation methods.
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conservation PR person over in the utilities department. And their full time job is to go out and educate the public on, uh, water conservation issues there. Uh, again, information on the website.
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and, uh, and communication because of the,
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water and the cost of, uh, ‸ water in your lawn.
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Um, so, you know, again, those are, those are very easy check marks, but perhaps there was something that the committee saw that they wanted to go beyond what we were already doing. Um, you guys have this page.
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page. The next page. So,
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again, continuing under built environment collaborate to identify city level solutions to ‸ affordable housing prices there. Um, and again, orchid lake is an affordable housing project that the board actually, uh, implemented.
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it's probably the first, uh, use of the statutory, uh, language, uh, in the county here. So, uh, and what I mean by that is orchid lake is an affordable housing project that, uh, the board
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uh, provision and statute that allows the developer to, uh,
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the rezoning process, um, to do affordable housing. Um, I think that was not zoned commercial, but it was zoned maybe residential, maybe commercial. And so if it's an affordable housing project, then you don't have to go through that rezoning process. And so that's a, that's sort of a catalyst
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And again, recall that there are all levels of affordable housing. Mr. Mervis, I think, yeah, you
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income, which looks a lot different than, than sort of my definition of affordable housing. You can go all the way up to 120, 120, uh, you're renting out, um,
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affordable housing. And that's just one example of that. The
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also working on a homelessness solution that includes, um, um, looking at the affordable housing crisis there.
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so the, the one, the ones you're looking at now, are they private? Yeah, these are, these are private.
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you can utilize that provision of Florida statute that says, hey, if this partial is zoned commercial, and if the board deems affordable housing enough of a priority, then you don't have to go through the P and Z process to rezone it to residential.
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I have a question.
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Yes, ma'am.
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The words on the handout that you gave us, are, are they taken from the plan somewhere? Are they, ‸ I'm trying to.
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The words on the left side?
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No, these words, these words and those words that are up there. Yeah.
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I'm looking for what you have that you've given us, and I'm trying to find it in the plan, and I'm not finding it. And I'm just wondering if you can help me do that so I can be
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Thank you. I appreciate it. You're taking a moment to,
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uh. So to help also give context for the group, pages three and four were like executive summaries. If
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boil up all of these, and if we had to make a choice on what would we try and approach in the first year, either as Mike said for easy wins and low hanging fruit, or because it's just this important, we need to start tackling it.
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Okay. So that's what you see in pages three and four is kind of the, the, what got prioritized for first year.
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top of page three actually says, these are the recommendations the committee recommends for year one.
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Right. And then may I ask, are these then like built environment, those five recommendations, then they're listed later in the back of this in the very itemized plan.
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That's correct.
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They're back here somewhere.
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to Coco and not, we looked at many other municipalities plans, but really apply
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to make the recommendations.
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Okay. So ideally they meet in the middle someplace.
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Well, ideally now you can start with these top level first year recommendations and then the supporting documents. I guess we have those all the, ‸ we do not have, okay. Yeah, we do. Then you can drill down directly from that.
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Yeah.
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so it should be
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a one to one or one to many correlation. When
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you look in the back of the plan to the spreadsheet, you're going to have an objective column.
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Yes.
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You're going to have an initiatives column. And then you're going to have an action column there.
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forget specifically what they, what they called it.
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Condition level outcome.
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Okay. And I've just simply termed ‸ those action items. And
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then that condition level outcome was how would you know that you're done? How would you know that you achieved this?
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Okay. And somewhere in here, that language that Stockton is giving us tonight is in here. In the tables. Yeah. I'm just not finding it, but I will. Yep. If I could have a complete copy of this email to me, would that be possible?
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you.
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The, and again, I went to page three and four.
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Yes.
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Because those were the first year recommendations. Thank
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I'm, I'm merely reporting out on those. Okay. On those ‸ first year recommendations.
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I think I can tell you for an example,
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if you look at page, these numbers are really small. I think it might
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be
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page 49. Yeah.
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I'm sorry, Kim. What did you
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That's a good idea. Help. I found it. Okay. Thank you.
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Thank you. Um, you have
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your plan. Yeah, there's four. So if
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go to page 49 and you look in the second column,
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initiative
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two, you see, demonstrate commitment to local government transparency and public access to water monitoring data,
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which is their first
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item here, which was also the first item on page three.
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the screen here. So, so it's somewhere in the document again, so that we didn't have to, to go to, uh, all of the hundreds of items in the spreadsheet. I just merely focused on these sort of first year priority, uh, goals, initiatives or objectives.
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Thank you.
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All right. Um, and so again, in terms of promoting and educating residents on water consumption, we do have full time, uh, conservation officer. And he, he goes around to schools and he goes around to, uh, organizations and he talks about water conservation. Um, again, that is on our website. That is also in the newsletter, uh, in a, uh, most of our communications. Staying under built environment, the star goal of built environment to collaborate, to identify city level solutions to the portable housing. And I
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understanding of the economic value of public green space and its relationship with property value ‸ culture, community involvement, perceptions, health, and, uh, wellbeing and neighborhood satisfaction.
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about the parks master plan and the, uh, and the, uh, the,
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and how to best utilize that in terms of addressing
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recommendation. I can tell you that on one of the affordable housing projects that is in the application process, we've talked with the applicant about as a part of the deal, if you will, titling
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the city some parks acreage, ‸ not just green space, ‸ but acreage that would be under ownership of the city that could be used for future green space and future park space there. So that's the deal that we're currently trying to make with that particular applicant in pursuit of more park space, more green space. Increase.
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Can I make a comment on that? So if you wanna ‸ just keep going with review. Let's
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keep going or we're gonna be here half the night.
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Yeah, we will.
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What was actually developed and pursued, I think there were some problems in the statement of work and in ‸ RFP and it just did not line up.
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Well, ‸ I'm not talking about there.
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I'm talking about the one that, and again, council still has to finally approve that.
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‸ That was an infrastructure and we did reserve a section that talks about connectivity, green spaces and things like that. So ‸ not ‸ the original RFP and the product that came out of that. It's more of the staff generated.
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you all put this together, was it part of a management plan?
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The sustainability plan? Well, the board looked very carefully at the strategic plan of COCO and tried to align it from that, used ‸ as a foundation and we're certainly aware, and some of us were aware of the conflict. Of
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I know what I'm trying to say is, was it put together so that this would work with the people and become part of the goals and become part of their performance? Did it go that far?
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and there were some people with Stockton, you know, was it put in place to be a management tool? Yes. Okay. That's what it looks like?
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Interesting.
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with a final project.
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steps along the way to achieve the final goal. And that's how it works.
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Simple as that. Okay. I understand that. But that's different than a management plan.
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Well, and I would say...
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Yeah. I would say it's a strategic guide. Another form of a strategic guide. That's right. You know, but we need to talk about, again, you know, Mrs. Riggs said,
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same definition of sustainability because, again, we think that...
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you'll see it in some of these that ‸ on a... When development comes in that,
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up to the council, you got to give me some park land, you know?
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the same sustainability lens, you know? It's part of making the deal. ‸ But again, you know, if you want the council to pass a resolution that allows you to forego the rezoning of this commercial parcel into the residential parcel, then there has to be something in it for the citizens of the city of Cocoa.
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In this instance, that's the park land, you know? So...
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I do think this document, though, very clearly outlines our definition of sustainability. And that was very thoughtfully done.
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it was essentially the Brundtland definition that we adopted. And we really worked through that process in the early stages of the methodology.
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That's an ongoing priority, I would say, for both the city and, ‸ obviously, the Cocoa Police Department. There are a number of upgrades that are ‸ in place that I think is going to help with this because those upgrades will hopefully get kids and families back into at least some of our major parks. So...
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our parks have extensive capital infrastructure needs. And so... And I'm talking basic needs like playable fields, you know? And so you're not going to get there until kids actually have services that they can play on so that the
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Now ‸ they're doing it primarily in Vieira and ‸ other cities that actually have those... Have those...
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So moving on to equity and empowerment. That's Dargo. It says improve communication by increasing the use of the city of Cocoa's website and Facebook page. And two years ago we actually redid the entire website. We did a redesign of the website with the intentions of making it more user friendly and updating it. And hopefully it is more user friendly over what it was there. Our Facebook page is a very successful. We have 14,000 followers and
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I asked her what that meant because we were only a city of 20,000 people. But apparently Facebook, you get clicks from all over the world and all over the nation there. And so we post on our page an average of three things a day.
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useful information there. So we're very proud of that. We also use Twitter, Nextdoor, which is, you know, a door to my side, but Nextdoor and YouTube there. So, so we, I think we do a great job of, uh, of, uh,
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social media right now, uh, ‸ promote participation in, uh, district town hall meetings and neighborhood watch meetings.
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meetings, obviously we promote those, uh, through all, all the media outlets. Uh,
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we do the text messages again on our website. Uh, the new police chief does community walks. And I think that's the first time that that's happened in the, in the city of Coco. Um, so, um, you know, we think we do a good job in getting the word out on those.
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I think there has been increased, uh, do you have data on, on attendance at any of those meetings or kind of.
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halls or the walks or,
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because he's in the neighborhood sort of going. So I don't know that he's, he's counting the number of knocks, you know, or the number of folks that come out there. Certainly we have the public records of the signing sheets from the town hall meetings. Um, promote participation in the mayor's challenge. Uh, and the mayor's challenge is, uh, is a, uh, health and wellness initiative, uh, between the cities there.
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so we, we participate in that. We promote that. Um, we actually, uh, have a city shirts promoting that.
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So, so it'll be because we eventually want to win it one year. And so we, we need the help of our businesses to do that because the city manager isn't contributing very much to that cause there. So, as Mrs. Prosser laughs at me, but that's okay. So, uh, and we, and,
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the first time, we'll have a, a, a resident volunteer who's going to spearhead our efforts.
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things are the food challenge that we
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And so,
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so we do have a volunteer that actually
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up and is going to coordinate
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events to promote increased voter turnout rate in the city of Cocoa and provide access ‸ to civic groups to promote voter turnout. ‸ This one is a little, ‸ I don't know how far we should be going as a city government in terms of promotion, but ‸ we do notice the up and coming elections ‸ in our communications there, and so we push that out to all citizens there.
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so ‸ this one could stand for some additional discussion because again, for me, there's sort of ‸ that line that you walk between how far you want to push out and promote and just simply, hey, there's an election coming up.
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Is that why it's italicized on the full spreadsheet?
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sorry.
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I was asking, is that why that section is italicized on the full spreadsheet? What page is that?
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It says develop events to promote increased voter turnout in
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city of Cocoa and then in italics, it says and provide access to civic groups to promote voter turnout. So I wasn't sure if the italicized portion signified something different.
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I don't think so. Okay. I can give you a bit of context. This came from very active people across the community who, so this is independent party, independent of any sort of politics, just saying like, let's make sure that we are supporting civic engagement and participation. ‸ Sure. So like, ‸ yeah, ‸ one of the presidents.
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I'm again finishing up equity and empowerment provides civic education programs directed towards teens, young adults, ‸ adult residents of the city.
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their local government.
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so that's a, I forget how many months that program
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but taking residents through sort of bird's eye view of city government. Last year during the economic development, uh,
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event,
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um, we actually brought in students from, uh, I think three of the schools and we talked them through sort of a government one on one. And so that was the first time we had actually done that there.
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And, uh, we regularly host student tours, uh, at city hall there. So, so it's a, it's a, you know, every now and again, you'll have a group of students
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just walk through and, and, uh, and sort of get a bird's eye view of what's happening. You plan to do a government one on one again. It's going to be an annual
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thing.
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Um, we're doing it a little differently.
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Uh, ‸ you know, I, I have, uh, thoughts about, uh, fire and police sort of, uh,
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cadet programs over at the high school, because we have such an issue recruiting in those two departments that, that I, I think, you know, we should explore and they're doing it down in Palm
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Great. You know, as, as people who have gone through that citizen academy, that's a great program. Right.
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Also Stockton, I think there's really a great opportunity, um, that we saw in the citizens academy, um, tours for, um, recruiting in the high schools for your, your public works, especially in the
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young guys.
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Yeah. Yeah. And when we have, we have, uh, you know, obviously, you know, in Florida, it's, it's a difficult job there. We have issues recruiting, uh,
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commercial license drivers there. And again, you know,
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coming out of high school directly into, uh, into the fire and police academy. So, so yeah, I think, I think those are all great comments. Um,
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conduct a comprehensive environmental justice assessment.
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I want to take a, sorry, comment there. Um, I think that would be very helpful having that ‸ environmental justice assessment in pursuing grants and kind of having a handle on where there are some disparities that could be addressed and it would help focus and clarify.
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Um, ‸ moving on to health and safety, the star go improve bicycle and pedestrian amenities and projects and high density, mixed use areas or near transit stations. Um, and again, uh, you know, these are sort of very broad statements there. You won't know what we actually mean by that, uh, until you're sitting across from staff and we're giving you examples.
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how we've actually implemented implemented that, but it says,
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Typically, most of these areas are within state roadways and those roadways are repaired. Uh, the state, uh, uh, implements various pedestrian bicycle amenities.
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going on to, uh,
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is the Dixon Boulevard. Um, I'm sorry, the clear Lake, uh,
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uh, clear Lake project, which will be a, um, a, um, sort of, um, enhancement of the mediums, but also, um, expansion of the sidewalks and bike lanes on clear Lake, which will, which will totally change the landscape of that. Um, um,
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the college there, but it's, it's a, most of that stretch there. And so I can get you guys the graphic on that, uh, if you
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‸ traffic calming project that will go from Aurora to, uh, the bridge here. Um, and so, uh, that'll, that'll, that'll be a tremendous improvement to the sort of traffic flow and the safety, uh, as you, as you Aurora is, uh, just, uh, west of the police department. And it's that role there.
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so there'll be a number of, um, of, uh, steps there, but, but again, uh, the point here is that, um, you know, as we're looking at developments there, we, we, we do have, uh, uh,
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towards that. And in many instances, uh, for PUDs there, those amenities are required as a part of the, uh, of the application in the process.
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‸ Question. When y'all were doing this, uh,
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Jennifer,
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back up to the, to the tie on the hiring. ‸ Two paragraphs back in, when you said that, she said that would be a good tie.
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looking at me, you know, their words, I'm not saying bad or good, but there's a tie then to the, he can't hire people right now. Uh, school boards in the same place. Uh,
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road. You know, he can't hire janitors. He can't hire. And these guys set up with which
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a doing standpoint, that looked like a wonderful thing. And when I went home, I said, Hey, we ought to have, we ought to have that in every part of the government, you know, because now we don't have BJC teaching technical things anymore, you know, and, uh, we go from the CET in the high school to, we, we skip a whole step. And we, we're sending all the kids to college and they, they can't get jobs and taking those degrees. So when y'all looked at it, it looks lofty. The words look lofty to me. No harm intended, but we missed the tie in.
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And it was talking about, especially developing a green collar workforce ‸ and promoting vocational training.
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also around some clean industries that relate to sustainability. So for example, solar installation and whatnot. So it's in there.
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I believe you. I'm saying the actual tie and the actual doing it.
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like when I talked to, I talked to Rashad, you know, he said, you know, he said, gee, I wish we had that tie. You know, cause we need to hire. And
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Mike's probably got experience with how MATC does that, right?
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and bringing those links in closely.
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Yeah. And the issue quite frankly, Dick, with, with the school board is, they have to decide on the initiative and how they're going to go at it and then go at it.
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You know, if you're going to go back, you got to go back and rethink what kind of technical vocational training you're going to do within the structure.
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the geography is there to make the ties. Absolutely.
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have the proximity of the three important things next to each other, the adult education, the high school and Eastern Florida state college.
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an advisor and I'm 78 years old. You know, they may not have been wrong.
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the ties.
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plan was presented.
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‸ I think we're going to find it to get to your point. I think we're going to find that there are a lot of pieces that can go back and be tweaked and fixed and modified and changed. And the list the list will be long and some are doable and some are not. Let's let's get through Stockton's presentation. Let's I'm just trying to move things along because I think we're all aware that we've got an imperfect document.
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pretty good, but it could be better. And so what we're going to try to do is find ways to make it better and then work with Stockton and the council and get it done. Well,
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know you won't believe, but I don't care about the document. That's very nice. But I do. And we'll work out how we can both work together and come to some kind of common goal. I'm interested in the ties and doing things. Okay, so am I. All right. This
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document can help us focus on things that are right for COCO and that
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get to an implementable actionable way. Okay. It was always intended to be actionable.
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Okay. Stockton, you're on. Yeah. And so and so my concern is on that ‸ particular one, ‸ that's going to have to be EDC, the career
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State. And so that one can be tweaked because, you know, not sure that a city staffer can be the lead on that one. Sure. And so that's sort of what I meant by, okay, we got to sit down and talk about the document and how it could be made better or clarify there. And so on this last point is, is that the resolution designating the realignment of the United States bicycle route will actually allow some additional striping and signage along, I think Indian River Drive and US 1 in regards to bicycle and pedestrian amenities and those sort of things. ‸ Partnering with groups to sponsor programs that encourage active, healthy living for adults and kids there. Again, the spring
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opportunities out there to do that.
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In truth, the committee's concern for this was on
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because we had some alarming data, and I'm trying to remember where it came from, but more than 21% of the population in that
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area had no car, and their primary means of transportation was bicycle. And so, as you know, the corner
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and 520 is a little bit horrifying for street crossing and just making that safe, that was really, that's where the discussion was.
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so, and again, that again illustrates the point of having staff back at the table because again, you know, having heard that then really we're not only talking about the other sort of physical fitness challenges and things like that, but we're talking about wider sidewalks. We're talking about sidewalks where there aren't any sidewalks. And so again, you know, perfect illustration of, of, okay, what do we really mean by that? And what are the potential solutions with regards to staff? So analyzing the data available from the 2019 community health needs assessment. We haven't done that. So you don't have a status on that developing the health community health improvement plan to strengthen the delivery of a health services, improve community health. We haven't done that. I don't really know that that's our charge, but certainly we can talk about that. You know, one of the, one of the, I'll say we, in a lot of instances, we backed into some of these action items there. And so let me give you an example of that with regards to this particular one.
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is, but it is, uh, ‸ it is an agency,
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fund there. They have $65 million in endowment. Um, and they don't spend a whole lot of that each year. And so, and so we've talked to them as recently as this morning, they, they were back out at, uh, at
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uh, looking at the feasibility of actually, uh, converting that to some sort of, uh, health, uh, facility in the community. Um, ‸ if you're familiar with the Evans center down in Palm Bay, um, that's a sort of multi-purpose center where they do healthcare services, they have a fresh
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that's an instance where we sort of backed into, into, uh, this initiative, but, uh, hopefully it'll, it'll bear, uh, uh, some, some fruit there. But, but again, we're, we're in those discussions, not having, uh, brought those to the diamond square CRA to the council there, but, but again, at least they're talking to us and they're taking field trips with us.
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And we have the transportation problem. And then we talked to the fire department and they revealed that of their budget,
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that are essentially pick them up and take them to the emergency room. And so if you look at, we calculated back what percentage of our fire budget was essentially ambulance to the emergency room. Like, oh my gosh, can we fix this? Can we do, there's a better way to use these, these emergency dollars.
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Um, publish information about emergency management response, encourage residents, businesses and other organizations to develop emergency kits, evacuation plan, emergency brochures and shelter in place plans. Uh, we have a comprehensive disaster preparedness page on our website. We host an annual billiard hurricane, uh, kit preparedness event each year where we actually give out the kits. I actually have, uh, one of my
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that I was supposed to bring down and show you guys there.
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um, and share information there.
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uh, during the lead up to hurricane season, uh, just on pushing out that information. Um, you know, again, this is, and so going to natural systems again, um, water restoration, another area where we can sit down across the table from staff and sort of flush out exactly what are the opportunities there. Um, you know, because obviously we have limited
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uh, control over waterways and, and, and obviously we're pushing. Um,
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the nutrient reduction projects to, to help protect and restore the Indian River Lagoon. But, uh, the, the stormwater assessment is a limited
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we're on that, what's the, uh, status of, uh, repairing the damage in the, in the docks at the park? Uh,
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waiting on FEMA.
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I was asking what the damage estimate was. Oh,
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so we, just in case you don't know, our, our, um, our, uh,
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day steps or the docks, that they were destroyed during the mass hurricane.
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Non-existent. So, so we don't have those anymore.
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so we're waiting on, uh, obviously FEMA comes out, they do an assessment and, and, uh, the process sort of starts with regards to how much they're going to reimburse you. We, we are still waiting on FEMA reimbursement from hurricane Irma, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's a process that can take a number of years.
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that.
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that's a classic one, you know, as somebody who goes on a walk every day and three, ‸ four days a week,
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past that, that it looks like the village is, is in a disaster zone. And with all the boats smashed up and it, it just, it's, it's just sad. Um, but it also speaks poorly without, without us being able to do anything about it. It speaks poorly of us and, uh, as an old PR guy, you know, it might not be a bad idea for somebody to stick up a sign.
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And then everybody could read it.
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Yeah, that's a, that's a great idea. And when I just had a discussion with the public works director, because I think we have
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yacht. Yeah.
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used to be a yacht.
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and again, the derelict vessel program is such where you really can't touch it until you give the owner a period of time to, uh, to try and remove it or retrieve it. I think I got that right. Um, um, unless you pull it out at night, you know.
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Well, that certainly fits under waterway restoration. So,
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waterway restoration because what's actually in the plan, um, doesn't really relate to
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Um, so we're looking at, like, evaluate the city's impervious footprints, promote the street sweeping, increase the street sweeping program, activate stormwater treatment. And
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we've done those again again, I, I, if you, if
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go to the drill downs, I'm really, I'm still on these, which actually just said, you know, the one, ‸ the first year recommendations just simply said waterway restoration there. So, so I think we've done, uh, pretty good on, on, um, on those drill downs, but, and again, you, you guys listed the sort of first year priority simply as a waterway restoration.
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it has, yeah, it's just a bucket.
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Yeah. So,
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yeah. Okay. Um, and again, uh,
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Obviously, we're, we're, we're attempting to do that. I think we probably missed the mark on that status report there too.
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Good news. I talked to girls doing the water samples yesterday and they said that, uh, the Indian river is doing better. And it's getting clearer. Of course, the two hurricanes tore us all to pieces, but, uh, they said on the test basis, it's looking better and better. Yeah.
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All right. Stockton, one more, I think. Yeah.
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okay. So, so we're,
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uh, climate and energy star, uh, the common energy star goal. And again, just responding to those sort of first year, uh, recommendations,
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and again, obviously that's the primary goal of the stormwater division. Uh, we have various projects, uh, ongoing and this is again, where we talk about the street, uh, sweeping, uh, the education about storm drains there. I think we've been able to supplement some of the, uh, infrastructure needs
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And so I think that was a big success this, uh,
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Um, you know, we talk about the Dixon, uh, Indian river project. And
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Mrs. Riggs, that's to, uh, to raise the road and, and to, uh, somewhat address that. I'm not sure how successful
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few inches there. And so, uh, we talk about the ditch network, um, um, um, to ensure the
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When we talk about the receipt of the urban and community forestry grant and, uh,
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a tree management plan,
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educate residents on solar energy costs and payback. Um, again, we include some information in our newsletter on that, but I'm not sure that we're the experts on that. So I, I see that as a partnership with, uh, with, uh, um, more, more, uh, folks who have more of a knowledge in ‸ that. Increased solar energy use in municipal buildings. We're, we are a part of the solar together program and, and hopefully once that rolls out to commercial
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see, um, more of a move towards powering power by a solar for some of our, uh, some of our installations.
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you know, it's difficult, uh, because of the cost, um, um, to recommend the solar energy and affordable housing. So, uh, we don't have a status report there.
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would say that's ongoing. You know, we, we've talked about, uh,
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Who's going to do some of the homes in the, in the Michael C. Blake subdivision about, um, the cost of that.
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of 2020. Um, investigate and establish vocational cross training.
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uh, PV electrical roofing and create a new career path there. Obviously that's, uh,
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in Florida and, and, uh, maintenance thereafter. ‸ And so we need, again, those partners I listed earlier, you,
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need a, a career source. You need an Eastern Florida state college.
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probably need the, uh, the adult ed center to be partners in that. And it's for one of them to, uh, to take the need, the lead on that,
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create a connected, uh, multimodal city. Um, um, you know, we're, we're pushing heavily for bright line. Um,
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you know, obviously everyone knows where we're,
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How do you push heavily? What what's involved in that kind of push? Well, they
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But as a matter of fact, I have an upcoming meeting with their lead governmental affairs person. I think I have that next week where I ask that question. What do we got to do to get the station
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can tell you that they go from the
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Orlando International Airport to the turn on a 528
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a US-1. They go 120-something miles an hour because there are no at-grade crossings. And so they
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that's a
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direction, and so they have to make this north-to-south slowdown. And so, you know, physics and all of those things say, well, if you've got to make that slowdown and you're losing time, you might as well stop. And stop in the area in which you've actually
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parcels are owned by the city. So,
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I'm having that very conversation. What do we got to do beyond the $25 million that we don't have
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We were told the last two stations that are small stations ‸ in West Palm and I forget the other south station, they were $50 million deals, and the locals kicked in $25 million.
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So, is it fair to say that that's not likely? They have
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promised Brevard a station. And so, if they've promised Brevard a station, they've only purchased land in Cocoa, and again, Cocoa owns the other contiguous parcels, and
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got to slow down in the curve, then I think ‸ we're best positioned. The TPO study from a couple years ago recommended ‸ that curve as the number one location. The number two location was US-1 and Rosa L. Jones. So, we're the top two recommended locations there.
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And the port doesn't have any say in that or any...
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The port is supportive of that stop location.
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528, I'm sorry.
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Yeah, yeah, right at that 528 where it goes. ‸ And ‸ they've actually built the tunnel, so right at that curve there.
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that...
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think we... I think the economics have changed on the solar roof.
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I don't think the economics are there. And I'd love to have the conversation with anybody. I'm not...
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give...
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Excuse me.
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Anything else, Dr.
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Fetton?
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...on the Create the Connected Multimodal City, I am a part of the newly created transit planning organization, Regional Intermodal Connections Committee. So I'll be sitting on there.
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So, and then the research and promote home composting, we haven't done anything with regards to that. And lastly, encourage the participation in the production of consumer good packaging and waste materials. ‸ The board did talk about that with regards to some of the city sponsored events. And ‸ I think that that wasn't successful because of the purported cost to the event organizers and vendors. And so that's what I have for you, sir. Again,
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You know, I'll note that on the agenda you talk about short term goals, midterm goals, long term goals. ‸ I really think that as we're talking about, which of the star goals and the initiative that you're going to pick out that you need to have staff in the dialogue to give you background ‸ context on.
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able to do. I also think for this committee, it's good to have an overview of the city's budget. And just how constrained we are with regards to general tax dollars or general revenue dollars, because that's going to make a huge difference on some of the initiatives that we want to undertake.
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but do you want the
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With some short term, midterm and long term and then sit down with the staff and say, these are the kind of the areas that we're looking at? How does that mesh with you? We can do it together. Yeah,
[01:20:30] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
either way works fine. Well, what's your preference? Well, I think if if you as a committee, I know we've run a little over. I don't think you're going to be able to go through the spreadsheet tonight and pick out.
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of those.
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back the next time and say that, you know, these are the these are the goals, initiatives and action items that we want to pick.
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You know, that may take some time and so maybe the next meeting you can have staff here saying, oh, I
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do it because of these reasons are.
[01:21:12] Speaker 1
All right. So we're on it. So just so I'm clear. So on the next meeting, we would set. We would have a discussion within the committee in these areas. The meeting after that, we'd sit down on what we had selected with staff and go through it.
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Yeah. And
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maybe in between one of these meetings, preferably maybe on the next meeting when we're setting these goals, we could get a quick update on the budget.
[01:21:35] Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Yeah. Certainly. That's a ‸ real quick. Is that okay with everybody?
[01:21:42] Speaker 6
That's okay with me. I just want to say that when I looked at the plan, I mean, I looked at the overall goals here at the very beginning, ‸ gave the whole background and everything.
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And I just started highlighting.
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mean, my green highlights are what should have been done in 2020 was suggested to be done. My yellow highlights are 2021. I didn't get any further because that was already so much because we're a few years behind. Some of these, although they say 2020, they say they're a low priority.
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high. Some of them say they're already included in the, in the various departments and budgets.
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the lighting, for example, update municipal street lighting to fully shielded and downward facing to reduce sky glow along bridges and waterways.
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then how quickly can we get them to change those lights
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And so that's part of the dialogue. The plan was adopted by the council in October of 2020.
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[01:23:07] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
nothing ‸ was going to be completed in 2020 because it wasn't adopted until late October. ‸ And so ‸ again, that's a good illustration of, okay, you got to have staff across the table saying, okay, well that process is, and it seems it's very clear, it says do the down casting, do the LED. And Brian has to tell you how ‸ cumbersome a process that is going through Florida Power and Life.
[01:23:38] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
So my understanding from the earlier discussion at this meeting was that they were in ‸ on these ideas. And that they were brought into discussion about that.
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time? I wasn't here.
[01:23:54] Speaker 6
Okay. So, so that's, you know, that's, there are a lot of missing links here. And,
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know, I'm so thankful Jennifer's on this committee because she was sitting there helping, doing all the research and everything.
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I feel like I have so much to learn. But when I look at this and having been involved in strategic plans for other organizations, if I were the public works department and I had been in discussion with the committee and it had been adopted, then starting as soon as I could in 2020, knowing that the deadline was 1231 suggested deadline, we always move these dates.
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So my question is on some of these things. I don't know if you've talked with anybody in the different departments on the very specific things. If we could get an update on those specific actions.
[01:24:53] Speaker 2
Yeah, I can give you that.
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I could also, you know, again,
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If I may, that's why I was making the point of this is a plan. It was outlined.
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than the people who wrote the
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will happen in this time period.
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light in six weeks and have discussions. And in eight weeks, the lights are going to be changed.
[01:25:35] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, but there was an expectation that these things would be picked up and pursued. That's the
[01:25:39] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
expectation that they would be picked up and pursued. What we don't have to your point is
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What are the jam ups? What are the budget considerations? What are the problems that are stopping this? And the reason I keep getting back to saying, you know, what are the priorities? What are the things based on our limited knowledge? Because I'm in the same boat you're in that.
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on what we've seen? Then we can go to the staff and say, Hey, here are things. Tell us why they can't be knocked off. And if there's no reason why not, then it's what's the timeframe?
[01:26:20] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, I have a question at that point. So time and resources are always the issue, right? If you run a business or anything else, that's always the problem. So this is a working document, right? We're not beholden to this document. There may be things in this document we don't even think are relative anymore, or we don't think we
[01:26:36] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
should pursue.
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‸ Right?
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So, I mean, it's, it's a working living document. We're not beholden to what the committee did before us. Am I right or am I wrong? Well, I'm
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to take some attention
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to that because it's a lot of work by people. You
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I'm the least expert of some of the people that we had in the field to deal with this.
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And if I may, it's, it's
[01:27:09] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
not as the word beholding is probably not, you know, I think we, we owe respect to all the people who put in the work.
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[01:27:26] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
And we have responsibility based on the charge that we've been given to look at this document and to provide advice, which is why we're an advisory board to provide advice to the staff and to the council and to the community on what things we think might get done. How could they could get done work with the staff to figure out what the impediments are, see if we can help with eliminating some of those impediments and end up by getting some things done.
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[01:27:59] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So, yeah, we're not be holding in a sense that we've got to do everything that they say ought to be done. But we do need to respect the work that they put in and we do need to accept responsibility that sustainability is important. And ‸ I
[01:28:15] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
don't disagree with anything you said. I just, from my seat, it starts with the budget. I mean, how much money do we have to work with? How much money does the city have to work with to implement so many of these things?
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[01:28:32] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's matching grants that have to be applied for and written and hustled and lobbied and, you
[01:28:41] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
know, all the things that they put
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[01:28:42] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
a lot of these dates are well out. I mean, if it would have been enacted in 2020 and I guess that's part of my question too. This was the plan that was,
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It was voted on. It was approved by the city council. So at that point when it was adopted and approved, then there was, you know, I guess
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of pursuing this plan that's been adopted by city council and
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[01:29:23] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So I have to wonder how often the departments have referred to the plan or like happens in many places. Was it just shelved? Do they even know that the plan is a work is, is outlined some of their work because it does say that the budget exists for it in certain categories? I totally get, because when I was looking through this, I was like, Oh my God,
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Is that in addition to their job? You know, I was like, Oh my Lord. So I was happy to hear that they ran on the discussions, first of all. Because if, if I were just, if I would just be handed to this document as a person listed in here and I already had a huge job and then I had a hundred and however many tasks yet that I had to do, I'd be,
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what? So being included in the discussion at the beginning, formulating the plan, having it adopted by the city council,
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I'm kind of curious how many people who have been charged with the various things have done any action items is basically what I'm saying. Like I, I understand everything that you put up there for the overview, but I'm wondering about the specifics.
[01:30:45] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, when you say the overview that it specifically says, these are the things that are recommended in
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wrong choice of words, big picture. I looked at those as their priorities, but then, I mean, I got the same document you did.
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at dates because as a person who's in charge of an action plan or was in charge of an action plan. And boy, was it ever a frustrating experience. Um, I had to look at dates and my name was by stuff. And if I didn't have it done, I was held accountable for not having it done.
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If, if I may, I think in simple terms, it's important in terms of the legislative structure is my understanding that the council accepted the sustainability action plan.
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time created this board as an advisory board to advise on those things and how to get them implemented and done. Is that fair?
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there. I sit here as a city manager, as a wanting to be a partner in the process. And so I guess we can go back and forth on ‸ what should have been done, what didn't get done. And I can give you the update on the on the extensive rollout there. But at the end of the day, they got to understand this is what ‸ we meant by that. ‸ These are and you got to understand the budget constraints. You got to understand how the grant process works. You have to understand, you know, how the consumptive use permit applies there.
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there because I think it is a reset for everybody. Okay. Sounds
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And that's a ‸ good point to end on. So, at the next meeting, if we're all in agreement, we're going to come up with ‸ short, midterm and long term priorities. We're going to get a briefing on the budget.
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Wait a minute. Are we individually going to do that? Or are we going to have somebody else do that?
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The committee is going to do that. We're going to do that. We're going to do that with a board and throw some things up there. And we'll all have a chance to, you know, put them up.
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Based on the conversation.
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we'll take those priorities and sit with the staff and go through and find out are those doable in those kind of in that context? And if not, why not? And we will have been briefed in the next meeting.
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a better understanding of. What kind of nickels and dimes we have to play with. Um, and within those
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you have a long term strategic plan too, right? Is there and what's happening on the federal level? Is there, you know, we've got, we just got through midterm elections. We're going to have a presidential election in two years. And who knows what's going to happen with the Congress and the Senate and what kind of national funds will be available. So, you know, our window to do stuff is going to be fairly short until we see what, what's going to happen on in other places, both on the state and the federal level.
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of the information that this is, it's a load.
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It is.
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and, and to then get some short term, midterm, long term priorities, um, get a sense of the budget, and then have a meeting with the staff to see what maybe is doable within our windows and most important of all, to get some things done.
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So how do you see that next meeting looking when we come and, um, talk about our priorities? Would you like us each to pick one, uh, star objective that like the BE1, the BE2? So I show up, I'm just picking one. And I say, I think BE2 is priority. And somebody
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like, well, I don't really care. But do we, do we,
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objective is way too broad. I think more specific, more things that, that you think are doable in short term, what's doable.
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You can go in any column you want to go in.
[01:35:49] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
But we should come with some things that
[01:35:51] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized
Yes,
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You should
[01:35:52] Speaker 1
come with two or three things that you think we should take a shot at.
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staff or let them present to us what they think should be a priority?
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[01:36:08] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
a committee and discuss that. Well,
[01:36:10] Speaker 2
no, I think it works the way you guys are setting it up. And let me, to Mrs. Johnson's point on the drill downs, you know, she, she listed the one that was under built environment and it says reduce misdirected ‸ upward, outward light emissions caused by street lighting. And the, and the staff response, I think back then and his response probably today is the city has worked with Florida power and light to convert all city roadways to LED. You know, and then the conversion of that is obviously you got to do the photometric studies to, is it directed correctly? You never get there. You know, if you, if you, if you wait on Florida power and light and so, and so do you, do you have a dialogue where maybe we start in the village by owning the lights and no longer renting them through Florida power and light?
[01:37:09] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's the
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sort of discussion that I'm
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think there should at
[01:37:12] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
least be an effort from staff to contact FPL and say, we have this goal. How can you advance
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this goal?
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That's
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this is.
[01:37:18] Speaker 2
That's what he, that's exactly.
[01:37:20] Speaker 4
So Brian,
[01:37:21] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Brian contacted them? Yeah, that's exactly. Let me tell you if you wait on Florida power and light, you're going to be as old as I
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you know, ‸ you get on a list and you know, if it's not a dire safety issue, then you're still on the list, you know, so. But so the
[01:37:39] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
important thing is, are we on the list? Well, okay.
[01:37:44] Speaker 1
So let's take a stab at the priorities. Let's take a, and if that's okay with Stockton, let's get a budget briefing that
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Then the meeting after that, then we'll, we'll meet with staff and they'll, we'll have provided them with what we've got. And we can see what the response is there. And then we'll be in a position to say, do we meet with staff on nine other things? And now, and how do we evolve that? Or is there some other way to go?
[01:38:11] Speaker 1 · Machine re-recognized
As I said, that's the reason I said in my opening comment, this is a very complex, broad-based thing. And it's not easy to cherry pick two or three things and say, okay, we did those things because they all wiggle. And I think it just behooves us to focus in on the conversation. Let's get some things up. Let's meet with staff. Let's see if we
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that would
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our goal. We need to set a
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And ‸ I defer to you Stockton, ‸ you provide staffing.
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[01:38:54] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
think coming back sometime in January. Yeah, I'm thinking one in January and one in February.
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scheduled for the 5th of January? That's our, our meeting date is supposed
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be the first Thursday. ‸ That's what was sent out initially when we were told we were way back when, when we were first contacted, we were told the first Thursday of every month. I put it on my calendar.
[01:39:25] Speaker 2
I
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thought you guys had some different
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discussion. I hear two people saying they can't make. ‸ So I thought you guys had a different discussion. I mean, we, we, we can look for a January date that everybody can make.
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We
[01:39:34] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
can look for a February date that everybody can
[01:39:37] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
make.
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[01:39:37] Speaker 1
first of all, you're not going to find any date that everybody can make. That's, that's a given in meeting worlds. So pick a date, pick a date. And as long as we can get 80, 90% of the people, I think we rock and roll.
[01:39:50] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, my understanding is this room is reserved for us every first Thursday of the month. We're on the calendar. Is that a misunderstanding?
[01:39:59] Speaker 2
It's
[01:40:00] Speaker 6
on the website. It's on the website.
[01:40:02] Speaker 4
And we, we found that setting that rhythmic expectation helped people to keep their calendars clear.
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[01:40:08] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
if that's,
[01:40:09] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
if that's true. So was this, was this mood meeting?
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to have?
[01:40:19] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No, no. And the, and then we were scheduled to meet in November, not the first Thursday, but then people couldn't make it. So it just so happens that this meeting happens to be on the first Thursday. Okay. Yeah. Which is perfect. But remember originally we were going to be in a different room and staff was not necessarily going to be here because somebody else had this room when we scheduled that meeting.
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received, it said that our meeting date was, and boy, I just went in and put in,
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Dr. Yeah. Okay. Done. So the first Thursday in January, the first Thursday in February, and then we'll figure out whether we want to do what we want to do next. Is that okay with everybody?
[01:41:05] Speaker 5
So I just, so you guys know, I will not be here January. I will not be here March.
[01:41:12] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, we haven't gotten to March yet, so you may have a chance. I'm just telling you.
[01:41:16] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
And I have no control over that calendar.
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[01:41:24] Speaker 4
So I also was wondering if we got minutes, did I just miss them? Because I didn't see
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I don't
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that at the next meeting.
[01:41:39] Speaker 4
Yeah, I mean, don't we have to have them?
[01:41:44] Speaker 2
I think you have to have them if they're prepared. Yeah, I think.
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Yeah,
[01:41:53] Speaker 4
because I had extensive conversations with First Amendment Foundation around all that working groups and whatnot, and they said that is your third requirement.
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To take minutes.
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have minutes.
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To take minutes. Because, again, it's a workload issue for the clerk's office.
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[01:42:14] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
meeting is not a requirement. It is to take minutes. But, I mean, the meeting
[01:42:23] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
happened as it happened,
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so she's not trying to hide anything.
[01:42:26] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Oh, no, no. I just, I find it helpful to
[01:42:28] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
have
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[01:42:45] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
I
[01:42:46] Speaker 6
just wonder if we can get an update if any of those little things could be checked off because what if I, my big priority has already been done.
[01:42:55] Speaker 2
Yeah. Just one last. I, I can, the, the, the Florida Power and Light.
[01:43:01] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Oh, that's not the one. I'm just. But let me, let me just use that
[01:43:03] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
as an example.
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Okay.
[01:43:05] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
And so if you go to Florida Power and Light and you say, hey, in the city of Cocoa, we want to upgrade the LAD and we want you to make sure that the, that the downward and the upward ‸ is set correctly. You get on the list that's probably in the garbage can.
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[01:43:25] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
well, I, I think that we need to address the lights that are in the, in the high crime areas or the areas that have some safety concerns. ‸ And you give that sort of, um, limited direction or request to Florida Power and Light, you may, uh, be able to check off some things
[01:43:46] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
because
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they'll do it quicker, quicker. And that's, that's all I'm saying with regards to the, to the partnership and the input. How to play the game.
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in the, you know, in the bit by bit, the action items might already exist.
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I would appreciate it.
[01:44:22] Attribution uncertain
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[01:44:22] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it dot, whatever. Okay. Anything else?
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development from a sustainability perspective consistently, and so that everyone would know what is expected, what is done. So take a ‸ special look at that as you're reviewing. Thank you.
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That's a lobby move.
[01:44:58] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I have one other request. This is just, ‸ this will help our work. Can this plan be uploaded on the government site somewhere where we can have access, and as, like, if you find that that report is made, you can just put a little check mark there and we know it's done, so it becomes a working document that as things get done, as opposed to not being able to see it being done as we go along.
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[01:45:29] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
come to us, but if ‸ we uploaded it and had a working document, could you ask somebody who's tech savvy if they can do that?
[01:45:36] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Are you assuming I'm not tech savvy? I just
[01:45:39] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
didn't want to put another little straw on their back, because you have people. You have people.
[01:45:46] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. You're saying when we update the document, put it somewhere where you can see it. Because we have the document on the website now.
[01:45:57] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yes. I don't know if it's edible, editable on the website. And we wouldn't want the general community in there editing it. So we would want a little workspace for us.
[01:46:09] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Yeah. Well, we can do that.
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[01:46:13] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
You're saying for staff ‸ to edit or for you guys to edit? Both. Both.
[01:46:18] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
Yeah. Well, yeah. We would want. What I'm asking for right now is if it could be edited to show what has already been done, that would be the staff, because the staff is obviously doing all the work at this point. And then as we go through,
[01:46:35] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
it,
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we want to edit it, then we could directly edit it.
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I think
[01:46:42] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
she's also saying that on an action item level.
[01:46:44] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
No,
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I'm thinking about sunshine and ‸ whether you've actually advised another committee member that I'm going to be voting on this or bringing this forward there. I understand. So let me ‸ talk with the attorney about that.
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I just don't know that that should be shared with the rest of the committee members until you get to the meeting.
[01:47:14] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
But you're really asking for a status update on an action item level so that everybody
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there.
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And then
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eventually, because ‸ I heard people tonight say, we may want to modify this plan if we're allowed to do that to an adopted document.
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I
[01:47:32] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
don't know if we're allowed to do that. But if we are cleared to make changes, then we could sit here. I mean, I'm a good typist. You know, I had that personal typing class.
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having some clerk have to take their time to do it. Yeah, we can
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‸ do it real time here.
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mean, I can do it to where you can have your own little space. That would be great.
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of the duties and responsibilities is to continue
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make recommendations regarding any updates or modifications to the
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OK. Last call.
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Oh, come on.
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I
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have some time at the next meeting then? Because I have a long list of things that we have actually achieved and been working on.
[01:48:30] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'm just going to go ahead. Over.
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Yeah. Not the least of which was in a partnership with Audubon Society.
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We've got $100,000 of grant that we're going for to prioritize where stormwater baffle boxes go. And you will find the comp plan, a list of items that are in our comprehensive plan, which is actually the blueprint for this for the ‸ city.
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[01:49:07] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice
that we didn't need not even understand at the time that we wrote this book. So just to let you know.
[01:49:15] Speaker 1
All right. Anything else?
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[01:49:19] Speaker 1
Mr. Chair, can you
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can
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you
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ask if there are any comments from the public there?
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[01:49:27] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Any comments from the public? I think I'm
[01:49:34] Speaker 8
the only public here.
[01:49:37] Speaker 1
Right? Officially hearing none.
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Okay.
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[01:49:43] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, because I meant to mention that earlier. One of the requirements is, as you recall, the attorney, you got to have public input. At
[01:49:52] Speaker 1
each meeting. Okay. All right. Hearing none.
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We
[01:49:55] Speaker 1
stand adjourned. Thank you all. Thank you.
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