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Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

Date
2023-12-06
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #249
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The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (190_PZ_Reg_Minutes_12_06_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Justin Simpson, Todd Anderson, Ron Chabot, Aleck Greenwood, Wesley Park, Marcus Wheeler, Merrybeth Burgess
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Veronica Lopez-Valez, Katherine Stewart
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Mike Blake (Mayor), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Kristin Eick (Board Attorney), Stacey Hopper (City Planner), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: ANDERSON, BURGESS, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, SIMPSON, WHEELER (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (8)

  • to APPROVE THE DECEMBER 6, 2023 REGULAR MEETING AGENDA WITH AN AMENDMENT TO MOVE ITEM IV. A TO THE NEXT MEETING (moved by PARK, seconded by GREENWOOD); PASSED 7-0; ayes: SIMPSON, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE OCTOBER 4, 2023 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN (moved by CHABOT, seconded by PARK); PASSED 7-0; ayes: SIMPSON, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 1, 2023 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN (moved by WHEELER, seconded by PARK); PASSED 7-0; ayes: SIMPSON, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve a PUD / Rezoning (Ordinance 22-2023) for one (1) parcel from Brevard County General Use (GU) to City of Cocoa Planned Unit Development (PUD), a Large-Scale Site Plan, and a Preliminary Subdivision consistent with Chapter 18 Subdivisions and Appendix A Zoning of the City Code for Windward … (moved by GREENWOOD, seconded by WHEELER); PASSED 5-2; ayes: CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: SIMPSON, ANDERSON — the City's minutes, p. 6; the vote on p. 7
  • to approve a Zoning Map Amendment for a +/- 1.002-acre portion of property located at 825 Forrest Ave., from INST (Institutional) to RU-2-15 (Multiple Family Dwelling) (moved by WHEELER, seconded by PARK); PASSED 4-2; ayes: SIMPSON, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER; nays: ANDERSON, CHABOT — the City's minutes, p. 10; the vote on p. 11
  • to not recommend approval for the proposed Ordinance 24-2023, a zoning text amendment, amending Chapter 3, Advertising and Signs, Section 3-23, General Regulations, of the Code of the City of Cocoa regarding Flags, providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions … (moved by GREENWOOD, seconded by ANDERSON); PASSED 5-2; ayes: CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: SIMPSON, ANDERSON — the City's minutes, p. 12 Corrected to match the minutes, page 12.
  • to approve the proposed Ordinance 25-2023, a zoning text amendment amending Appendix A, Zoning, Article XIII, Supplementary District Regulations, of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Cocoa to add a new Section 33, Kava and Kratom, establishing distancing requirements between establishments selling … (moved by GREENWOOD, seconded by WHEELER); PASSED 7-0; ayes: SIMPSON, ANDERSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 13
  • to approve proposed Ordinance 26-2023, a zoning text amendment, amending Appendix A, Article XIX, Section 2, Relating to the meeting schedule of the Planning and Zoning Board; providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporating into the code, severability and an … (moved by PARK, seconded by GREENWOOD); PASSED 6-1; ayes: SIMPSON, CHABOT, GREENWOOD, PARK, WHEELER, BURGESS; nays: ANDERSON — the City's minutes, p. 14

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (PZ_Reg_Agenda_12_06_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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[00:00:09] Speaker 1
All right, good evening. We're going to go ahead and get started. I apologize for the few minutes of being behind here, but
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tonight, so
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So, go ahead and call to order.
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Laura, if you would, please give us a roll call. Give us a roll call, please.
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Chairperson Simpson.
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Here.
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Board Member Anderson.
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Here.
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Board Member Chabot. Here. Board Member Greenwood. Here.
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Board Member Park.
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Here.
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Board Member Wheeler. Here. Alternate Burgess. Here. Alternate Stewart, who also notified us they would not be here.
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Okay.
[00:01:11] Speaker 1
Thank you. All right. If everyone would please stand, face the flag.
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I
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
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of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible.
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Okay. So, um, I'm going to ask everybody in the audience, including, uh, fellow board members, I ask this all the time. Uh, if you have any cell phones, PDAs, tablets, anything like that, please either put them on silent, vibrate, whatever you need to do. If you do need to take a phone call or anything like that, please step out into the hallway, but also be mindful. Our hallway loves to echo. So if you stand out right in front of the door, everybody in here will know your business. Just be mindful. Um, that's all I ask. Uh,
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Uh, so if they're speaking and you're trying to have carry on a conversation in the background, you know, it's kind of like in school. When
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somebody's
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talking, please try to keep the communications to a minimum. Okay. Has everybody had a chance to look over the agenda? Yes.
[00:02:45] Speaker 5
Yes.
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‸ Okay.
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‸ Yes. Is it possible that one item could be moved to the end of the meeting, which is, uh, voting for the, um, chairman and vice chairman positions? Because the amount of work that we have right now, it wouldn't be fair to whomever might take over once the vote's made for what we have to look at tonight.
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got a break.
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board member. Yes.
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So for item C, I just need to recuse myself when we get to that.
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‸ Okay.
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That's fine. Just, um, when we get to that, remind me and then. Okay. Okay.
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Okay.
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Anything else? Any other questions, comments, concerns about the agenda?
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Okay. Do I have a motion?
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So we do have to make that change to the agenda prior to the motion being carried. Just ‸ let you know.
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if we'd like to, if we'd like to have that happen.
[00:03:53] Speaker 1
Well, actually, let's go ahead and have this comment then.
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Um,
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since January, we're normally have our actual vote. If I'm not mistaken, that's normally when we do our vote is in January for chair and vice chair. Okay. Do we not normally do that in January? At least that's when, when I've served on the board, that's how we've, we've been doing it.
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But I was going to
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ask. Suggestion to see if the board also agrees or not. What about tabling it? Tabling it until
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January.
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because
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[00:04:32] Speaker 7
Yeah, I've, I've discussed it with. So, so I'd make a motion that we, uh, approve the agenda tabling item a until the January meeting.
[00:04:39] Speaker 5
And I'll second it.
[00:04:40] Speaker 1
Okay. All right. So we're going to have, uh, ‸ current motion to pass this with being approving current agenda with item a being tabled until January timeframe
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[00:04:57] Speaker 1
All in favor say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed?
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[00:05:04] Speaker 1
Awesome. Okay. So has everybody had a
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Yes. Yes. I make a motion to accept the minutes as
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Second. Awesome.
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Okay. All in favor
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Say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? None heard. Awesome. And then let's see the minutes for November 1st. Does everybody have a chance to check on those? Yes.
[00:05:39] Speaker 10
Yes. Any arguments, complaints? I make a motion.
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approve the amendment says, uh, published.
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Oh, second. Did you say
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second or I'll say okay. All right. All in favor of
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Okay. I have no old business. So let's go ahead and get on to new business.
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so
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we have, uh, no election of chairperson or vice chairperson. So let's go ahead and get right into it. Item B approval of a PUD rezoning.
[00:06:21] Speaker 11
Good evening. Chairperson and members of the board.
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I'm here in my capacity as a contract reviewer to the sea of Cocoa.
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took the lead on the review of this application. I'll be doing the presentation for you this evening. And hopefully my presentation will be up on the screen in just a minute. ‸ Perfect. Thank you very much. So in terms of my presentation this evening, I'll talk a little bit about the location of the property. I'll run through the existing conditions. We'll talk about the request. Uh, this one's unique because there is a significant amount of history that's, uh, gone into it. Uh, so I'll, I'll really cover a history of a number of development agreements that pertain to the property, talk about our findings and I'll conclude with a recommendation, including some conditions.
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[00:07:21] Speaker 11
uh, which is the beach line expressway. It's east of I-95 and it's just over 212 acres in size. Uh, currently has a very low density residential, uh, slash conservation future land use map designation, which allows for consideration of up to four dwelling units per acre.
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[00:07:52] Speaker 11
Can everyone hear me?
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No.
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Okay. How about now? Better? Okay, good. All right. So it's south of 528 east of I-95, 212 acres, uh, in size.
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or excuse me, the city's comprehensive plan, a very low density residential and conservation, which allows for up to four dwelling units per acre.
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it still retains its old Brevard County zoning designation. Uh, if you look at the property surrounding, uh, most of it is within unincorporated Brevard County.
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tracks for the Brightline, uh, and some associated stormwater ponds. And then you have lower density residential, uh, on the south and on the east.
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I-95 on the west. So the request here this evening is to rezone, uh, from that historic Brevard County designation. Uh, and they're also requesting a large scale site plan and a preliminary subdivision plan.
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Uh, and they're, uh, requesting to split that into two phases. Uh, so phase one would be 185 homes, uh, ‸ recreation area, a pool, dog park, and a portion of a trail network, which they're proposing. Uh,
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park, and the remainder of the trail system. Um, so as I mentioned, this one has quite a bit of history, uh, dates all the way back to 2004 when there was a request to bring this one into the city. Uh, that ordinance on the screen, uh, is when this property was originally annexed into the city. Brevard County at the time challenged that annexation, uh, in the two, uh, local governments went into litigation.
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proceeding development agreement with a group called Hagen Nicholson properties LLC. Uh, which allowed for the annexation exchange for certain development rights and city services. Uh,
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county and the city was settled. Uh, and that resulted in a stipulated settlement agreement.
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In 2022, uh, it came back in front of council, uh, in the city, uh, entered into a settlement implementation agreement.
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[00:10:55] Speaker 11
time and I'll get into the individual specifics of these agreements in just a moment. So 2005, 2006 agreements, um, simple agreement to annex into the city and the city would provide, uh, water, wastewater, fire, police protection and public services. Uh, the city agreed to support a future land use map designation consistent with the low and medium density residential districts. Uh, and
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PUD zoning district. And what's before you tonight is that PUD zoning district.
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[00:11:38] Speaker 11
the county over the annexation. Uh, there was a plan associated with that agreement, which you can see on the screen. Uh,
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acre. And they were permitted a maximum 600 dwelling units. There was a minimum home size in that agreement of 1500 square feet. That's under heat and air. And
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along James road. Uh, in 2022, uh, uh, ‸ settlement implementation agreement was approved. Uh, this one was a little bit different because as you can see from the, the previous 2008 agreement to the 2022 agreement,
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uh, for the, the bright line project. So you've got a rail line now, uh, that runs on the North and you've got some associated stormwater ponds, which shrunk the size of this site. Uh, the, the development program took a corresponding decrease to 418 units. Um, there's requirements to provide private recreation space. They have to do a walking path, nature trail, a 5.8 acre park, dog park, playground, clubhouse, and pool. Uh, and there were also specific requirements for, uh, the clubhouse and all those amenities. Um, there's ‸ requirement to do some streets, caping, uh, and enhance the entrance features. So when we did our review on this project, we went back and we read all of the previous agreements, looked at the city's comprehensive plan, uh, and the PUD zoning requirements for the city. Um, and as you can see on the screen, the layout is substantially similar to the one that was, uh, approved back in 2022 by the city, uh, on that settlement implementation agreement. The one on the top is, is the agreement version. The one on the bottom is what's being proposed here this evening. Um, the unit count is less than was approved in the settlement agreement. So the settlement agreement had 600 and then the settlement implementation agreement had 418. So they're at 385 now. And then the amenities are consistent with those that were required by those prior agreements approved by the city. As I mentioned,
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You can see the elevation of the clubhouse here on the screen. And that's the clubhouse area in the top right. Uh, and then there's a, a secondary park required, which is shown on the bottom right of the slide. They're required to do a dog park and you can see the details from the dog park on the screen as well. Uh, trail network. Um, there was a preference in the agreement to do stone or brick paver or stamp concrete driveways. Um, we discussed that with the applicant and added that as a condition of approval, uh, for a consistent consideration this evening, they have to do underground utilities and they have to use energy efficient materials also has been added as ‸ condition. Uh, so as typical, we went through the 11 findings, uh, that are required for a project of this nature.
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finding number one, uh, deals with the character in terms of density. Um, and we noted that it's consistent with the underlying future land use map designation, which allows for up to four dwelling units per acre. Uh,
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And that's also consistent with the 2.3 acre, uh, dwelling units per acre.
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So it's less than both the future land use map would allow and the settlement agreement will allow.
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and open spaces on the south and the east, uh, which was part of those original agreements to provide a little bit of a buffer to those residential, uh, communities to the south and the east. Uh, finding number two is compatibility. Again, uh, the previous agreements, uh, did a really good job of outlining, uh, some of those compatibility measures that have been carried through at this stage. You've got a cap on units. Uh, you've got the minimum home sizes. You've got the location, as I mentioned, of the open spaces, ponds and preservation of wetlands, uh, which are primarily located on the south and the east. Uh, you've got
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properties of the east.
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the applicants complied with that.
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Uh, all the access for this project will come off the James road extension, which is on the southern property line. Traffic calming.
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are going to be required. That is a county maintained facility and the applicants been in discussion with the county.
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there's a finding regarding prevention of erosion and degrading of surrounding areas. Uh,
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that all of the, uh, engineering, final engineering drawings have been signed and sealed by a professional engineer to ensure that, uh, those, uh, local laws will be complied with. Uh, finding ‸ number four deals with the availability of public services. Um, we did receive, uh, correspondence from Brevard County public schools that says there's capacity available to serve this project. Uh, we did a full concurrency analysis in the staff report.
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there's capacity available for water and wastewater. Uh, the drainage is going to be consistent with the cities and the water management district's requirements with no deviations. Uh, and the recreation amenities are consistent with those prior agreements and they exceed the city's level of service standards. Uh, and there is transportation capacity available.
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finding number five, uh, is the nature intent, uh, of common open space and maintenance. Uh, so the amenities are consistent, as I mentioned with those prior agreements.
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Finding six, uh, this addresses, um, uh, phasing. So they are proposing two phases. Both of those phases have sufficient infrastructure to support the proposed residential program. So it's not like, uh, they're proposing all of the units in one phase and all the recreation in the, uh, separate phase. Um,
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those phases will be able to stand alone. Uh, the main amenity, as I mentioned, is in the first phase. And then we do have a condition of approval that requires the completion of that amenity prior to the 150th building permit. So,
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finding number seven, uh, this is, uh, the availability of, uh, primary streets and thoroughfares to support it.
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the surrounding ‸ road network? Um, state road 524, uh, is expected to exceed capacity at build out. Uh, but that roads exempt from concurrency standards within the city. Uh,
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So that is a project that will be underway shortly. Uh, James road, as I mentioned, will be owned and maintained by Brevard County.
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Finding number eight, uh, is the adequacy of water and sewer. As I mentioned, there is capacity for both water and sewer to serve this project. Uh, finding number nine, uh, addresses the benefits, uh, to the general public, uh, to, um, deviate from the standard land use requirements and hand inherent to a PUD this one's a little bit different because, you know, there was so much history with
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with all the terms of that agreement. So they are preserving, uh, 34 plus acres of wetlands. They've got amenities that are in excess of city code. Um, and
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going to provide an increase in avalanche tax revenue fees, uh, back to the city.
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city. So, uh, as noted, it's consistent with a comprehensive plan.
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it's consistent with all of those prior development agreements dating back to 2004
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And, uh, finally finding number 11, uh, is addresses open space and compatibility with open space. Uh, they've kind of laid it all out here in their plan. They've got a trail system and many center dog park kind of went through all these a little bit earlier. They're preserving those wetlands and putting trails, uh, within the open space and ponds. So, uh, we are
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these are all in your staff report, but I'll cover them quickly. First is just a requirement to comply with the plans. Uh, two is a development schedule, uh, including, uh, the requirement to complete the amenities prior to the 150, uh, certificate of occupancy within each phase. Um, three, there were a few minor outstanding comments that we asked the applicant to address, and those were provided to ‸ under appendix a and b.
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the clubhouse facility as a building.
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brick pavers. For the driveways. Uh, six is the requirement for underground utilities. Seven is going to be, um,
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requirement to do reclaimed water in the common landscape areas. Eight is energy efficient lighting systems and other, uh, building materials. And that's directly from the settlement agreement. Nine is the requirement to coordinate with Brevard County and construct traffic calming devices and James road. Uh, 10 is going to be the minimum square footage for the buildings. And that's out of the prior agreement. 11 is a requirement to, uh, diversify some of the architectural elevations provided within the community. They provided a, a large sample of the different types of elevations that can be considered. We just want to ensure that you're not going to have a monotonous community with all the same homes.
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with tree protection and preservation requirements. As you know, the city's recently updated standards. So just want to ensure compliance with that. Uh, 13 is going to be, uh, the requirement to address any city survey or comments prior to final plat.
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So, uh, this is if, if that does go forward, uh, we just want to make sure the city's aware of who's going to be maintaining those common areas.
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and then 15 is the requirement to produce approvals from the water management district regarding the wetland mitigation and conservation areas. So with that, um, I'll conclude my remarks and, uh, staff's here for any questions.
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And one last thing, there are some architectural elevations that have made their way up to the dais and hopefully you'll be able to review those as you consider this project. So thank you again.
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Okay. So let's see.
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since we have so many people that would love to stand at the podium tonight. Uh, when I call your name, I'm just going to have you stand up and then I'm going to have you sworn in so we can go ahead and just do it all at once. Heather Isaacs.
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LJ.
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Tammy Hoisington. Alicia Weaver. Suzanne Rawlins. Pat Scott. Ed Dwyer.
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Klebs. Wasim Niazi. Gina Fadley. And Mark Fadley. Sorry.
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We have a couple more cards coming. Just one more. She did.
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Miss or Mr. Zimmerman.
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If you could raise your right hand, please. And repeat after me. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you God? I do. Thank you very much.
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And I believe we're going to have the applicant speak first. So, Ms. Isaacs.
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members of the board. I'm Tom Sullivan with the great Robinson law firm on behalf of the applicant on this request. Appreciate your time tonight. First of all, I have some folks here with me tonight. Heather Isaacs, you just mentioned Fred Miller with Taylor Morrison and our civil engineer, David Stokes and some other folks as well. Just first want to briefly thank staff for their presentation. We agree with the 11 findings that Eric went through in detail, as well as the conditions of approval that were laid out in the presentation, as well as in the staff report. And we appreciate their professional recommendation for approval. I know it's already been said, but I do want to emphasize that this request is consistent with the prior settlement agreements regarding this property. And you all saw the slide that kind of covered ‸ the years. Um, the different years that those agreements were approved. And when I say we're consistent with those agreements, I am also including the 2022 settlement implementation agreement. That's the most recent one. There are some important provisions in those agreements regarding the property, uh, and the project, and we have been working closely with your staff and with the city attorney, uh, as well to ensure that we adhere to all applicable requirements, which we are. And I think that's important to point out. So, um, with that said, as I mentioned, we have our whole team here tonight. If you have questions for us, we're happy to answer. Um,
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Thank you.
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Hi Heather Isaacs, Vice President of Land Development for Taylor
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presentation but Eric's slideshow and presentation covered quite a bit of what I was going to cover so I'll breeze through them very quickly. Location
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recreation the streetscape show a couple of architectural elevations and then open it up for any questions that you may have or staff may have. And then I would like to reserve some time to respond to any comments that are made from members of the audience. Eric whenever the location it is
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single family residences around the south and the east. James Road borders the property to the south and then on the south side of James Road there's large lot residential and then there's the Brightline facility to the north and I-95 to the west. So as Eric mentioned there's 385 units that would be constructed in two phases within a timeframe of five to seven years just depending on the market. The lot count is reduced from that 2022 settlement implementation agreement by 33 lots as it was previously previously mentioned ‸ another agreement had an allocation of 600 lots so we are.
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Those wetland wetlands and upland buffers will be maintained
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the HOA so the city will not have any maintenance obligation for those wetlands.
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We have two lot sizes that will be 50 feet wide and 60 feet wide and
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This is the open space plan up in the upper right hand corner there is the large city park. I'll show some examples of that in the in a couple slides. Kind of in the center near the first entrance off James Road is where the amenity will be with the clubhouse a pool a dog park and an open play field with sports nets. And then you can see the trail system kind of weaving through through the project. So the the park that's in the upper right hand corner at 6.28 acres it's under what will be a preserved tree canopy. It's going to be designed as a nature play space.
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with the National Wildlife Foundation where we certify all of our open spaces as wildlife habitat. We also create nature play spaces which is a little bit different than a typical playground. It's meant to activate
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senses and encourage dynamic learning in an outdoor environment. So you may have musical elements you may have a learning library.
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is what we've proposed for this project. This is the main amenity site that has a clubhouse air conditioned clubhouse with a pool.
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dog park with the dog park.
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In addition we've got parking on this site as well as a mail kiosk for mail delivery.
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That's a rendering ‸ of the amenity of an amenity building that is not air conditioned space.
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As is mentioned there is a condition that this one be air conditioned. Unfortunately I didn't have time to get colored renderings but we did provide an elevation.
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private amenity.
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streetscape we will come. We'll have one canopy tree every 50 lineal feet along the internal streets. We'll have five foot sidewalks on both sides. Some of the trail system will obviously interconnect with those sidewalks. And then as Eric mentioned we have a monotony condition to prevent the same house elevation from being built adjacent to or across the street or diagonal from that same house elevation. We are proposing to gate this community. And so we've shown what the gates and the entry feature the entry monument sign would look ‸ like.
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we offer and this is the number of different elevations that are offered in the community. So we have. Believe we have eight different models and each model will have multiple elevations just based on whichever architectural style it is.
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community and not every house looks the same. And I'm available for any questions. I've also left my email address and my phone number. Anybody in the audience is welcome to email me directly ask questions or call me as well as any members of the board. And I'm here to answer any questions and I've got our consultant team as well. If there's questions that I can't answer.
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I missed it earlier. What was the minimum square footage?
[00:33:27] Speaker 16
The minimum square footage of the house, I believe is.
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$1,500.
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Yes.
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What's your market position? What's your market position?
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What do you mean in terms of market position?
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Dollar range market position. Who are you selling to?
[00:33:51] Speaker 16 + overlapping voice
This is a move up buyer community. So it's not intended to be a first time home buyer community. We have a very similar community that's being built with the same models in Volusia County.
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That is an estimated range.
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don't know until we price the homes at the time that they're being built. They won't be constructed for probably 10 months to 11 months from now. And pricing changes monthly. So
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upper middle income.
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Correct.
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‸ curious. Are they all going to be concrete block or a combination of concrete and wood or are they all wood?
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Sure. Thank you for the for the compliment on the elevations. The first floor is generally going to be made of concrete block. And then second story is going to have a wood frame.
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stucco on the first floor or siding just depending on the elevation.
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Thank you. The detail that you had shared. And I don't know if we got it from the representative. But anyway, it was a very quickly stated that you were going to be stamping driveways. And if that's true, is that going to be throughout the project or is it strictly the entranceway? And what about the sidewalks?
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All residential driveways will be made out of concrete pavers.
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Yes.
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And then the streets will be asphalt and the sidewalks will be concrete and ADA accessible.
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They will grow to ‸ that height. We will have live oaks. We also have a variety of other trees. I have our landscape architect here that can provide more detail if you'd like.
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It would just be a matter of identifying what kind of trees. You said live oaks. ‸ What are the other ones you all would consider?
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I don't have the plant list with me. I
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questions I have right now.
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What's the largest home going to be square footage?
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I think around 3,000 square feet.
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Thank you.
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3,800. Sorry
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And that would be on the 60-foot wide lot.
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Did your team, did everybody in your team submit a card? Is that ‸ what you were saying earlier?
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I think our attorney did, but I don't know that everybody else did. Okay.
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Can I have the names just so I don't have to?
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Sure. Fred Miller. Okay. Todd Bonnet. Okay. And David Stokes.
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Okay. I don't have any of those up here. Okay.
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All right. Thank you.
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Okay. Okay. So, what we're going to do now is we're going to move it on to the audience. What I'm going to ask, and of course, I always ask my board members for approval first, is I'm going to ask for, I understand that everybody's going to have opinions. They're
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Please bring something different than what somebody previous has said. You can touch on it really quickly. Please do not harp on the exact same thing. We all know the phrase, beating a dead horse. I understand that
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a lot of emotion probably on this project. That's all I ask. So, but I'm also going to ask my board members, are we all good with keeping the public audience to three minutes? Yes.
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Okay. Okay. I'm going to ask, uh, Ed Dwyer, lead us off. Um, I'm going to ask, uh, Ms. Isaacs, uh, you and your team, um, if you could make notes of specific questions and then at the end of everybody coming up, I'll have you come back up and they'll answer your questions. Audience members, please address the board. Do not turn around and address the applicants and their, and their team. Um, please present all of your questions, comments, concerns to the board. Um, just, just to be respectful.
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Thank you. Okay. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. Um,
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I've got a, uh, a residence on James road, 22 years. Um,
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calming devices on James road? Um, again, in the projects. Past that have been. Failed. That has been an issue that they could not. Resolve because of the ditch that goes across the front of my house and goes all the way down James road as far as safety for school buses. Um,
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We have a big ditch there. Anybody that's familiar with James road in ‸ this room. Um,
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Can anybody answer that?
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mean, speed bumps are one. If
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So the traffic
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again, a speed bump is probably was, was, is probably one of the things, but you put a speed bump against a ditch that's 15 feet deep by 20 feet wide. That's
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So, you know, that's what we're, you know, first of all, safety is what, what we're going for here.
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Right. Um, so I'm going to ask is go ahead and ask all of your questions
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you only have three minutes and I'm going to have the applicant come back up and they're going to answer all the questions.
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Okay. I got you. Okay. So that was one. Um, and then access to James road. Um, that would be the only access into this project as I see on the map. So as far as fire safety and anything of that act, if there was a fire in that southern southeast corner, which is going to be the preserve where the wooded area is going to be left. If there was a fire there, is there any other access for the people to 385 homes to get out of that was, that's another question. Fire truck access.
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access. Um, and you're
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a quarter acre lot. That seems like a big house on a quarter acre lot. So these houses are going to be very tight, obviously. And that's, that was a, that just seemed like a lot of, a lot of house on that kind of a lot. Um, and then we're going to at 385
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And that's just saying that maybe, you know, we have two cars. Some of the same 450 cars going to come out
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access coming down James road and you say James road is the primary access. So Friday
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to get to James road. So that's all that traffic is going to be down at that two lane road. So 450
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So that's, that's another issue that we're all worried about. That's my time.
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Thank you, sir.
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All right. Thank you.
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All right. Up next we have Pat Scott. Yes. ‸ I'm just going to have them answer all the questions that at once all at one time. Okay. Thank you. I didn't understand. Thank you. We're
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don't have to come back up and go ahead. Uh,
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yes, I'm Pat Scott. I am the trash pickup lady out there and I have been for many, many years. And one
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I live in the only curve on Friday road. And I tell you the traffic has picked up tremendously. And ‸ I'm looking at this traffic when I'm out picking up trash, thinking, where are they coming from? We haven't built any new subdivisions out there, but I guarantee you that new development. They're going to use Friday road for their entrance and access. And we're going to have a lot of traffic issues. We were all zoned rural residential out there, one acre and larger. And the idea was it was for horses. I haven't seen any horses, but we have lots of pedestrians and bike riders out there. And what worries me is they've never even put in. I know they say we can't have
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because the drainage ditches are too deep and too big and too close to the road. But I have held my breath many a time when I've seen people driving down Friday road like crazy and people almost getting hit. And
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we, it seems like we should be able to get some kind of a 24 inch asphalt paved to strip on one side of Friday road for pedestrians, bicyclers and whatever. People walking their dogs, whatever. But if they're going to put in a subdivision like that, and I
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into consideration all of us people that have lived out there for many, many years. Part of the beauty of it is that it's rural residential. I want to know number one, what they're going to do to keep the rest of us safe, especially with all of the traffic and they say in
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They're going to come down Friday road. And, and secondly is I want to know what they're going to do about drainage. We have had issues out there when the counties had to dig up our driveways and culverts and put in larger ones because it was flooding from Grecian estates and whatever. And the only way they could solve it was ‸ to put in larger drainage pipes to run it south. Where are they going to drain to with their runoff with all those houses?
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guess that's all I have to say. Thank you.
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Thank you, ma'am. Okay. ‸ Next up, Jessica Comparato.
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Comparato.
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Sorry.
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Hi, I'm new to this, so I don't know what I'm doing.
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Comparato. I just moved to North
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two days before Christmas last year. I moved there to get out of subdivisions, to get out of the traffic, to get out of people piled on one on top of the other, where I can go in my backyard and not have to worry about my neighbor looking out the window and seeing me. That's why I moved out there. And as far as drainage, I know you said not to harp on issues that were already talked about, but that particular property, we have to have flood insurance because it's FEMA zoned flood. And I'm right there on North Pacer right at that little at the end of the little cul-de-sac. And then there's that canal. And
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I'm zoned by FEMA flood, where on earth do they think this flood water is going to go to? If my flood water can't even go out to where it protects my neighborhood, where's all this coming from? And then they had Cape Canaveral flooded completely when they were installing ‸ that whole Brightline ridiculousness. ‸ And Cape
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So that was a big thing. Also, I looked into Taylor Morrison homes. They're owned by LMM
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South Africa, they're
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y'all ‸ are having homes built that aren't even American companies. ‸ Where is that? And maybe that's because I'm military or former military, but that's not very patriotic. But traffic's a huge thing. And the noise, my God, the noise is going to be awful. It's bad enough that, ‸ you know, I had to seriously sit down with myself and think about it because I-95 is right there. But now
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going to be a lot of noise with that added to it. And they talk about preserving the wetlands. Well, you know what preserves the wetlands, leaving them wetlands. That really helps. And they're talking about trees they're putting in live oaks and then assortment of others that they don't know. Well, are they keeping them native or are they bringing
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meant to grow in Florida or not good for our water? That's all.
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Thank you. Next up I have LJ Cottons.
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Hello. My name's Forrest,
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My mama always said I'm not supposed to talk to strangers. But tonight I'm going to make an exception. An exception my mama says is something that's not usually done. She's pretty smart about that. All right. Now hopefully I've got some of y'all's attention with that. I'm
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Part of Friday Road and some of the sections that go from Friday Road, Rayburn, Rector, there in between Cox Road. Some of it's city limits, some of it's not. I live in the unincorporated part, so I just want to be clear about that. There's major concerns ever since these proceedings have been going on from day one when it's been known about the this project and the public hearings and stuff. There's been main concerns. Everybody's got their own little personal concerns, but the two main concerns on Friday Road is the increase in traffic and the infrastructure as a whole. And
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still read the newspapers. I'm one of the last dinosaurs that do the reporter for that. She
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city council and the residents within that whole area. And the biggest thing again that came up was the infrastructure along with the drainage. When
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alone, the
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and I kind of that word really struck out like a sore thumb, like your proverbial sore
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It's like you're talking about the infrastructure as it exists now and you're only saying it's adequate. And this is a spokesperson for the city. You put in a few hundred homes down there, especially when it's directly linked to James Road and then comes right on the Friday Road. How
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And
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understandable level. If
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a new toilet in your house and before they leave you say, hey, is everything going to work okay? And he said, well, they'll flush everything down one out of every three times, but hey, it's adequate. You know, I mean, just think about
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you're, it was a spokesperson for the city and they use the words, well, we believe everything's adequate. And
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the word adequacy was used to, excuse me. But the main point being is, is just, you know, how much is adequate, especially now with a couple of hundred homes being in there, you go down, uh, after we have these rainstorms, especially on Rector and on Rayburn Road. And three days later, we had one day last September where we had several inches of rain within a couple of hours, three days later, there was still so much standing water on that road. Well, I guess my time's up. So
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there. My
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[00:54:13] Speaker 1
Next up, Tammy Hoisington.
[00:54:23] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Thank you very much for allowing me to speak this evening. My name is Tammy Hoisington. Um, I am going to straight shoot right now. Um, I come from a long line of firefighting families. We have fought fire and wildland fire
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the state of California before moving here. Many of you have heard of paradise, California, and it was had the same thing. One
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People panicked. They wrecked the fire, fire, fire trucks could not get in.
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[00:54:57] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
people could not get out. They had 80 plus souls lost, lost. We're talking to ashes. It rained two weeks later. Families could never recover their loved ones. That's
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[00:55:11] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
That area has burned before and it will again, because this is Florida. We have dry spells and it burns. I
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[00:55:21] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I worked for six weeks dispatching for fires here in Florida this summer and it wasn't pretty. You guys are talking about, oh, 385 homes, correct? Well, you know what? At that high level of homes being sold, you're talking at least two cars per household. Not one, not a horse buggy. We're talking at least two cars. That's a minimum of 770 cars. 770 cars on Friday Road, James Road, and Cox Road. Those
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[00:55:59] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
As these folks have said, there's a huge ditch there that catches water. I live on that ditch. I live on [address]. My backyards right there. Backyard, ditch, James annex, and then all these people that are going to be looking into my back bedroom every time they drive back and forth. I do not have 17, $18,000 to put up a fence. So I really, ‸ I don't really like that thought, you know? As for the wetlands and the endangered species that are out there, there are several. Last time this tried to happen, I don't know who did it, but there was a lot of plowing that happened out there. A lot of gopher tortoises' homes were destroyed. Gopher tortoises were killed. I have pictures still from last time. If any of you like them, I have sent them to city council before. I can send them again. There
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[00:57:00] Speaker 22 (introduced as “Tammy Hoisington” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
There are mountain lions. There are bobcats. This place is beautiful the way it is. It does not need all these homes. There's a lot of families that love that area. They're out there getting their ‸ kids to do something besides this. Walking, hiking, biking, motorcycle riding. I
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excuse me, but there you go.
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Thank
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Thank you very much.
[00:57:39] Speaker 1
All right. Next contestant, Alicia Weaver.
[00:57:48] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
I'm Alicia Weaver. I've been lucky enough to live out on Friday Road for over 50 years. I've seen a lot of change on Friday Road. And I'm sorry. I
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[00:58:02] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
I believe that that property that we're discussing was originally zoned RR1. Most of the zoning in that area required that the housing had to be built on at least an acre of land. We do have a few homes that aren't on an acre of land. So the density of this property really bothers me. I can understand the city of Coco wanting to put in a PUD. After all, you're after it for the tax dollars. Let's be honest. But I'm really concerned not only about the endangered animals that are being displaced, but the plants as well. You've
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We
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[00:58:51] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
roads can't support it at all. When the Walmart Supercenter was put in on 524, we were told it wasn't going to affect the traffic on Friday Road. It has definitely affected the traffic on Friday Road. And you tell me that putting 385 homes on the end of Friday Road isn't going to affect Friday Road. And you tell me that it's only going to have egress on and off of James Road. I don't see how that can happen when there's other houses that come ‸ where the road continues on past where this property starts. You all look at me like I'm crazy, but I
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area do have large lots. They're more than a large lot when you've got over an acre of land and then you're putting something in that's going to be less than a half an acre or actually a quarter of an acre or less for some of these homes. You've
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[01:00:06] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
going to have golf carts too. They're going to be also running up and down our roads. So please consider what we're saying. I appreciate your time. Thank you.
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Could
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don't represent the city. We represent the citizens. We're a board. We're a board of citizens.
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We're
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Everybody on this board is a volunteer of the city of Cocoa. Right.
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don't represent the city.
[01:00:53] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Please realize that a lot of us that live out there are not residents of the city in Cocoa.
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I understand it.
[01:00:59] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
So sometimes we don't feel like you care about us.
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That's right.
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So next, next up, Suzanne Rollins.
[01:01:17] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Hi, my name is Susan Rollins and I live on [address] and I've lived there about 17 years. And I just, when I saw the pictures of those, where did she go? When I saw the pictures of those houses, that is gorgeous. ‸ I was like, holy crap, that's going to be a beautiful neighborhood.
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But
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I don't know. Maybe, I don't think they've looked at the map. I'm
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[01:01:54] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
They, I don't know if you guys knew this. If that was aware, it's going to go by 32 times a day. Very shortly. It's might be
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So I kind of, I'm just going to go to what, uh, Todd Anderson, I think was asking. I challenge you really think people
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that goes
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You,
[01:02:31] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I, I'm, I'm, I'm not a real estate agent. So I, I, I don't even play one on TV, but there is no way. And I challenge that, uh, that price. I met, I think the houses look gorgeous and everything about it looks gorgeous, but who would want to live there? I
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[01:02:57] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
hear it. I can't even imagine what's other people. Um, here I hear 528. I'm a half a mile from 528. So these people, and, and you can't put up a wall
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[01:03:11] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
underneath the rail, the rail tracks, they will be, the rail tracks is like 50 feet above them. So I, I feel like I, you guys should maybe question that, uh, ‸ that price and, uh, what they think. The
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were saying about 524, the project being scheduled, the,
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[01:03:46] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I could be wrong. Cause I, again, I'm,
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[01:03:51] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I'm not that familiar with, but I thought that Brevard said they had to out reallocate that money. And that has changed from 2024 now to 2030. And so I'd like to just challenge that kind of statement to the other thing I would like more clarification on that was completely news to me is the, the, um, the bullet about, um, I don't know if you encourage people to go James road or you, you block them from going on Friday, but I would like a better understanding of what were you talking about on that,
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that,
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how that's going to be, um,
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structured. The traffic calming.
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mean traffic calming.
[01:04:36] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No, there was a bullet that said that traffic will be diverted. I
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be blocked. I don't know what the right word.
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Channel.
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What was the word? It
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was in your PowerPoint.
[01:04:58] Speaker 11
If you'd like me to respond chair. Go ahead. I think in my PowerPoint, there was a provision in one of the previous agreements that said there will be no access from Friday road. So one of the original proposals had an access point that was actually from Friday on the north side of the site. So
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Correct. It all comes through James on the south. There'll be two access points.
[01:05:23] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Because I, I think everybody took away was there was something, um, that there was something in the planning for that. So the plan is not to run people down James road.
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No, there, there will be access from James road. There
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So the James road extension will be constructed from Friday road on the south side of the boundary of the property. There
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Yes. So that was eliminated by a previous agreement.
[01:06:02] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Where, where it was when the Friday road extension way at the end.
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That's correct. It was north of the site. Okay. So that was restricted in a previous agreement. Sorry if that wasn't clear about presentation.
[01:06:14] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I
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challenge you on your wording in that sentence. Because you probably heard the grump, the moaning when you read that. Anyway, thank you for
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your
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Thank
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you, ma'am.
[01:06:24] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Pat Scott” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Does that mean that none of the traffic from this development will come to south on Friday road?
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No,
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So, so what, hang on,
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hang on,
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hang on. What, what the, what the proposal is, is that there is no access to the site directly from Friday road. No.
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Meaning, meaning that the,
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meaning
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that the only entrance and exit from this proposed development is going to be off of James road extension that the developer has to pay for to extend out to the site.
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they have to improve and make, make up to code per Brevard County provisions or per
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[01:07:23] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Point of order. Point of order. We can't talk to the audience like this. We need to either be talking from our side or they to come up to the podium. It'll just allow, you know, what happens is it becomes 12 to one in a conversation. And
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That
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Cause
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[01:07:43] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So it's just, it's just a common point of order that we, we go to the podium and we talk there. The chair was kind enough to have the answer provided then, right? Not
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That's good. But we need to be able to hear you guys one at a time. Cause
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Thank you. Wesley. So,
[01:07:59] Speaker 1
all right. So now that everybody has been heard. Um, who would like to go first staff or would miss Isaacs like ‸ to try and tackle the, uh, mountain of questions and concerns that we have. I'll
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um,
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try and clarify as much as we can. I do have our traffic consultant here who, um, prepared the traffic study. Um, I would like to, I
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to the public.
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also have our engineer here to discuss the stormwater and floodplain, um, comments. So if I could have both of them sworn in, ‸ I
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would appreciate that. Okay. Have them stand up, ‸ please.
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Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So I'll be back.
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So a couple, a couple of comments that, um, I can address, um,
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as I'm not a traffic engineer, nor ‸ traffic planner. Um,
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[01:09:11] Speaker 16 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Um, there was a question about, um, the trees, whether they would be native, the trees and plant material. We are planning to plant 80% native. Um, and we are also using water wise irrigation. We'll also be dark sky compliant. Um, in terms of stormwater ponds, we've got 77 acres of stormwater ponds that are being built. Um, again, our engineer can, um, address those questions in terms of protected species. We have done, um, a threatened and endangered species analysis. We are aware that there is an Eagle nest on the property. We already have been working on an Eagle monitoring plan and working with fish and wildlife to understand what those restrictions are in terms of when, when areas can be developed around that Eagle nest. Um, this is not our first time working in a community where, um, there's been an Eagle nest. Um, so we're very familiar with that.
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Um, and we're aware that
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all of the gopher tortoises on site ‸ will be relocated to a mitigation bank at our, at our expense. Um,
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is with LTG and has been working on the traffic analysis. Following Josh will be David Stokes. Who's the engineer of record.
[01:10:25] Speaker 26
Good
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[01:10:28] Speaker 26
Um, it's great to be here tonight, uh, to talk about this project. Uh,
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to address the traffic calming and the capacity issues and all the things that we've,
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uh,
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listened to as concerns from the residents tonight. And,
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and first I'd like to say that, um, it's been working for everybody, um, because of the number of iterations that this project has gone through and throughout history. Um, the county and the city have heard the concerns and this project has been thoroughly vetted in terms of
[01:11:02] Speaker 26 · Machine re-recognized
traffic. And in fact, there's been, you know, agreements forcing the development to make some changes to the safety of James Road. As of right now, we don't have an approval from the county, but we're very close. They have accepted
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our
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the components ‸ we're going to have for the traffic calming study is going to be public relations. So basically, we're going to be meeting with all the people that are interested to take their concerns before anything's implemented. ‸ with that.
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I understand that. I understand that. But I'm going to ask you for your respect, please. Thank
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understand
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that. ‸ Please be respectful.
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to speak, I have no problem. If you'd like to raise your hand and ask to
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that question, since I'm up here, um basically, we've gone through Brevard County standards. You know, James
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abuts
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[01:12:23] Speaker 26 + overlapping voice
so we've been in communication with the county we've done all of our analysis to make sure that this development was
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any major issues. um The county has agreed with our analysis at this point. There is capacity. I know that when I say that everyone makes noises. But, you know, the reality is we've gone through the the rigorous process of gaining approvals um and justifying this development. And, you know, so we've gone through that process. ‸ And so if you guys have any further questions
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I have two questions.
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Has
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[01:13:06] Speaker 26 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I do not believe that that has come out as part of the discussion at this point. Okay. ‸ still you think that's finally. Have
[01:13:13] Speaker 8
you looked at those ditches? Do you think that's important? Well,
[01:13:16] Speaker 26
we have, yes. They were they were considered as part of our of our analysis. But at this point, we haven't been directed to include any sort of guard rail
[01:13:25] Speaker 8
Okay. How about any discussions with the state on uh sound density walls like they have across the other side by 95.
[01:13:34] Speaker 26
we
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important?
[01:13:38] Speaker 26
In terms of traffic?
[01:13:39] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No. Well, yes. for that Not
[01:13:43] Speaker 26 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
necessarily in terms of traffic, but for, you know, the comfort of the residents, sure.
[01:13:46] Speaker 8
Okay. Thank you.
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um
[01:13:51] Speaker 1
I'm sorry. Ma'am, did you have an answer to one of Todd's questions?
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Chairman,
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this road
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installing guard rails
[01:14:07] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay, great. Thank you. So there's already planned to install them?
[01:14:10] Speaker 27
um Yes, they're part of the plans.
[01:14:12] Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Hold your question. I'll i'll get to you, I promise. Okay. um are there any other Are there any other questions from the board? okay Thank you, sir.
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me one second. let me get Let me get them to come up, answer their questions that are already present.
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‸ yes sir.
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um Thank you for answering the guardrail question. The
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adjacent ‸ the project.
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heard that i'm here to address is the drainage and the floodplain i'm sure you all have seen
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[01:15:13] Speaker 25
large part of the property it's the flood zone a the drainage for this property flows northerly there are there's several paths it takes through the wetlands and on and so throughout this project we had to prepare a study for the pre-development and post development conditions that study was presented to the city of coco staff and their reviewing consultant teams uh the
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[01:15:41] Speaker 25
and the st john's river water management district uh engineers also reviewed that study further once we get to the next step we'll submit to fema for what's called a conditional letter of map revision and
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[01:15:57] Speaker 25
study but our drainage does not go south across James Road it goes it goes north there's several ponds you can see them it's ‸ pretty extensive network the interconnectivity between them and the wetlands there's also ponds that are designated only for compensating storage in addition to the other ponds that are there for the treatment and attenuation of the stormwater runoff from the community as well I'm glad to answer any specific questions that you may have an hour later but that's the overview of the system and how it works and all the process that we go through and all the reviews that happen of our analysis by other uh other consulting teams, residents
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as well.
[01:16:41] Speaker 1
Okay. i
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of these projects we've looked at,
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[01:16:54] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
then have you answer, are like a zero drain project where the water is meant to be kept on the property. Is that one of these projects? This
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[01:17:04] Speaker 25 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
two types of um systems. One's called a closed system. One's called open. A closed system would not drain anywhere. It's kind of what you're referencing there. This basin is open. This drains out, you know, eventually out to the ocean. So, uh there's a different set of criteria for that. uh Which goes out to the
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ocean
[01:17:23] Speaker 25 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
eventually. Yeah. Yeah. There's specifics involved, but i got you uh ‸ it gets out to the river, to the ocean.
[01:17:27] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
Do properties that, uh not contain a septic system, do
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a property with a septic system or do they, or
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this,
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that would improve the drain, uh the drainage or, you know, the, uh acceptance into the
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Sure.
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Any other
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I'm
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I'm going
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allow one more round from the audience. But what I'm going to have you do is I would like you to please keep it to only two questions. So if you would like to come to the podium, please orderly line up behind the podium. And this is going to be the final round of questions. And then this will be it. Please no more speaking aloud from the audience. None of that. because I would really like to have this go forward. I understand that you have a lot of concerns and I understand that there's a lot of going into this project. I really do. I'm trying to be accommodating. So go ahead. Just when you come to the podium again, speak your name.
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Jessica
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comparado
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and sidebar question. You
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what I meant. What I mean is there is a lot of consideration going into the project okay from the community and from
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there's a lot of consideration going into the project.
[01:19:09] Speaker 12
All right. So just two quick things. um
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road. But what about the old extension of James Road? I mean, that's going to be just as effective. oh two more things, sorry. um
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it's going to go in, and it's going to be all contained drainage system, but when you build up, it comes out the other side. So that's going to be an issue. Just because they're all contained in their little gated community doesn't mean outside the community is not going to be affected. Number three, sorry. um The traffic situation, they said they did a traffic study, and I don't know who they paid what, but they um
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to do all these extras? If the speed's not going to be affected, the amount, the capacity, the the timing, everything's not going to be affected, why
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the traffic lights or the widening of roads? and Why are they going to have to do that if it's not going to be affected? just Just a thought.
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Okay.
[01:20:39] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Good evening. My name is Candy Dwyer. I live on [address]. I have lived there for 22 years. James Road, um I'm in between Cox and Friday. It's one mile long. um I'm on the, which side of the ditch? The north side of that ditch. They're talking about the James Road extension, which will go into the new subdivision. That's where they're going to have their guard rails But this traffic is going to be diverted
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to get into their new subdivision. So we have ‸ a mile long. I
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[01:21:20] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
walk this. And James Road. And there's a giant ditch. And there has been sheriffs. They set up the um the police officers set up to try to catch. It's a 35 mile an hour zone. And people
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[01:21:37] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
it's, if you,
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[01:21:41] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
up in the ditch. So if, if they, if they are, they're having 400 homes where give or take with 600 cars using James Road, but they
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[01:21:55] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
new extension. What about
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[01:21:57] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
the traffic is still coming down the entire mile and that ditch is still there and we still walk it and there's still traffic. So it is inevitable one of those cars is ending up in that ditch. That's just my opinion. It's just
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[01:22:11] Speaker 18 (introduced as “Candy Dwyer” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
they only have to do just the extension. They should have speed bumps and guard rails down that full James Road if
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[01:22:22] Speaker 1
thank you
[01:22:25] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I just have um um one and one and a half questions. um You mentioned that this was an open he mentioned that this was an open
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[01:22:43] Speaker 21 (introduced as “Susan Rollins” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice
one. Is he draining into that same canal that we drain into? I'd like to get that answered. And then I'd like on the uh the traffic guy to talk about the traffic calming um solutions that they came up with and recommended thanks
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[01:23:05] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Weaver and
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[01:23:10] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
that the egress for this um property is going to be at James Road. And my question is what
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[01:23:23] Speaker 23 (introduced as “Alicia Weaver” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Road crosses James into Friday Lane. Are they no longer going to have access to come down Friday Road because of the placement of that intersection with the new property property here? And my second question is you were talking about putting sewage in for this property. What where's the lift stations going to be? Where's the how's the reclaimed water going to be handled? All of that's going to affect the neighborhood as well. so Thank
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and it's Friday Road as you all know. I'm sure they run north and south. James Road, Rector Road, Ray
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doubt. But the thing is, is again concerning drainage. Sorry to keep repeating that word. But, uh you
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same. They vary on each road between house to house and from one end of the road to the other. So is there
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there any plans that, uh widening and deepening those drainage ditches to help out and make them more uniform throughout that entire area? Is there any plans on on also that to run in conjunction with this housing project to help it drain better? That's my question.
[01:25:03] Speaker 1
Thank you.
[01:25:05] Speaker 28
All right, so you're gonna ‸ be the last one. My name is Bill ho
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live down Friday Road. I've lived there since uh 1980. Moved
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daughter and sons had ‸ horses. Now that's a little difficult. The whole area has changed. Now we're gonna ‸ have on an average of uh 400 more homes or 800 some odd more more homes. And then the
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[01:25:37] Speaker 29
one
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uh lane of James Road is going ‸ to take an
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[01:25:45] Speaker 28
the excess or the egress. uh That's still not going to work right now the way it is right now. That intersection of 524 and and Friday. You will be waiting there sometimes six to seven minutes for a revolution for you to come around to take a left to go east on 524. Okay, what's it going to be like when you have 800 more homes and and if this traffic situation is ever fixed, which I don't think it will be. uh But uh just imagine you being at that intersection of 524 and Friday Road. Okay, right now we have the truck stop that changed everything truck stop and Wendy's that changed everything. Okay, right now there has to be something done. Are you going to four lane Friday Road? Because the way it is right now with two lanes. I don't care if you put sidewalks, curbing and stuff like that. Even on James none of that's going to matter and this dream about going from James Road to Cox Road. Who
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[01:26:52] Speaker 28
everybody wants to go Friday Road. It's the most direct North Southeast West. i95 Walmart all
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[01:27:02] Speaker 28
go Friday Road. Okay, you've
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to have got to consider infrastructure. Okay, that's one question. Okay, the other question is um I live on [address] and I've
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[01:27:20] Speaker 28
do anything as far as improvement or uh complete uh complete uh
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totally changing your septic system. That is not allowed once uh sewage has been put put in and it would be put in on the east side of Friday Road. I live on the west side. Not only i I live on three acres. Okay, that means I've also heard that I'm going to have to have a pump, you know, a pump and also pump 250 feet to my property line and then I'm going to have to
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[01:27:59] Speaker 28
connect to the main. That's sewerage. All the main stuff is going to be on the east side of Friday Road. Okay, how about the everyone that lives on Friday Road on the west side? They have to contend with that. Thanks. Thank
[01:28:14] Speaker 1
you, sir.
[01:28:14] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice
Hello. um I must I speak for a lot of people here that I
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seen so many changes in that area from Walmart distribution centers 524 the road's been it's destroying the road and two
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Friday and Cox ‸ Cox would
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[01:28:45] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice
like a four lane road to get all these people in and out of that area. And it's it it's um mind-boggling And and with 524 the ways in the last 50 years. It's
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anybody live out there
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in
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that area? Yeah. right Then you know what I'm talking about. So, uh the the you know, I've worked at
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road on the map right here it
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you know, it's
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[01:29:27] Speaker 14 + overlapping voice
everybody's going to have to get used to that. They're going to have to understand that idea. It's just not feasible to put all those houses in the corner like that. One egress. The lady mentioned about the fire. Fire hazard it's
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if you got the train on one side and build a wall and everything people be ‸ climbing over the wall to get out from the inferno.
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really just not feasible. And you got, you know, I don't know, it's in uh ‸ it just doesn't make any sense. And it's it's a nightmare getting I lived in Miami. I
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this is what I've been 50 years over there. But this is a nightmare. 524 is a two-lane road. You can't put all these people in the corner of there and expect people ‸ come and go like that. It's not going
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you to address the
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board, please. oh okay. i'm You can ‸ I'm sure. So, uh yeah, I just
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[01:30:27] Speaker 14
Yeah, Ricky Michaels.
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Ricky Michaels?
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Yeah. Thank
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you, sir.
[01:30:31] Speaker 14
I got 47 seconds left. Listen, so the whole thing's really not feasible. And I'm sure people that live out there forever, understand that. There's not enough services. You've already built all the let all these apartment buildings get built and all. there's That's been a disaster. One of them's not even being completed. And it's
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too
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services. You know, it's
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my point being, it's it's just way too much for that area in that one corner. It's just not feasible. That's the key word. It's not feasible for that area. It's going to put a harm on all the existing residents who've been living there for 50 years. And that's something you all need to think about that for the
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it. Take care.
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All right.
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the community right for right now. um
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does
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that. No. Okay. Miss, uh Miss
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Thank you. um One of the questions was, where's the lift station going to be? The lift station is going to be internal to this project. um I don't know that you can necessarily see it on
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the
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[01:32:16] Speaker 16
um There was a question of whether we're going to be draining into the same canal on the south. And I believe our engineer already answered that question that this project drains to the north as part of the open basin system. um Josh Black mentioned that there is going to be a public engagement process to discuss the traffic calming. So I encourage all of the residents to attend that. If we'd like to put my email address back up there and people want to email me so they make sure they're invited, I'm happy to do that. But that's the place for us to talk about all these questions related to the guardrail or the speed tables. um in
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[01:32:59] Speaker 16
was a question about connecting to sewer on Friday Road. That's not really a question that I can answer. I think that's probably something that the
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to connect to the sewer. And then in terms of the the comment that there's not enough services and that the
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[01:33:18] Speaker 16
the city staff did an analysis of all the level of service for the various different um public services that are provided. And this project meets every level of service that's been adopted by the city. So um with that, i unless the board has any other questions or staff has any other questions, um I'll wrap it up. But as I mentioned,
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here is welcome to email me or or call me. um And I pretty much get back to everybody within 24 hours. And I'm happy to add your name to the to the public workshop for traffic calming. The
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which on average you have two children, especially
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of that size. To add them to our public schools. um I have a child in the public school system right now. And the schools are at best overpopulated and um and they're also understaffed. So um I'm just curious. um Do you know who the contact point was for that? Was it the board? Was it the school board?
[01:34:32] Speaker 16
No, it was not. It was it was a staff member at the school board. I don't have their name with me, but um we submitted a an application provided calculations based on the level of service standards that are in the comprehensive plan and the code that was analyzed by a
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on the existing capacity and the projected capacity of of schools. ‸ Please
[01:35:00] Speaker 1
keep your comments down.
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[01:35:13] Speaker 16
Okay. um this was sent by Karen black. She's the manager of facilities planning and intergovernmental coordination. Okay.
[01:35:22] Speaker 1
Okay. I'm just curious because I.
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has a lot more facilities on it to accommodate. um for the addition of way more students.
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[01:35:42] Speaker 1
All you have to do is drive by during one of their interchanges and you can see how many students are already there. Mayor Blake can also vouch for how many students go to that school. um And that just doesn't even count the amount of students at elementary schools. So that's the only question I have for that.
[01:36:03] Speaker 16 + overlapping voice
I'm happy to give you a copy of the no
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[01:36:08] Speaker 1
It's just it
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said, oh yes, we have no problem. We have no problem um adding an additional 700 students to our to our schools in the area. So
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ma'am. No, no, no. We're done with the audience. I'm sorry. ‸ I understand. I understand you have I understand you have additional questions. I've already opened it back up to the audience again. That's outside of protocol. I've
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um
[01:36:51] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
okay yes. Can
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to the neighborhood meeting that that they're offering uh that she had mentioned? You haven't had any dates or anything like that that? Not
[01:37:04] Speaker 16
yet. We need to coordinate with Brevard County on a specific date. The
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they're dealing with the representatives and the developer at that type of neighborhood meeting.
[01:37:15] Speaker 1
Yes. I also encourage the audience specifically to please take down the phone number and the email. That way you can contact Miss Isaacs and her team directly for all additional comments and questions. I understand that we could debate this all night long. However, it's just it's not going to happen. um so thank you, Miss Isaacs. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
[01:37:45] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
Chair, might I offer a comment? Please. Good evening. All we we all serve here as as advised as citizens of
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So I'm
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[01:38:05] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
One of the things I wanted to take the time to highlight and I also want within this document that we're uh have presented here in this PowerPoint. There should be another slide that shows the amount of land usage that is being proposed by this development. If we can go back to that slide, please, just for the sake of uh public interest. It showed, um
[01:38:30] Speaker 11
is it online
[01:38:30] Speaker 10
‸ it's in this existing presentation here. It
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staff's presentation?
[01:38:42] Speaker 10
Yes. So if we go back, so it is within your, so within the staff presentation, there's a slide that designates approximately 30 acres that's going to be set aside. I'm going to reference that really quick and then I'm going to just lean way to another point as we prepare to, um address this particular issue at hand.
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talking
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yes, you are absolutely correct. I thought it was in this document. I
[01:39:22] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
believe it is. Right there.
[01:39:23] Speaker 10
So here we have in findings number nine, the preservation of 34 plus acres of wetland. So when
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of talk and there's a reason why I reference this. There's been a lot of talk in regards to mitigating water. So oftentimes when individuals who have not been, uh to these types of hearings or board meetings, I should rather say, there
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do not address. There are certain things that we are here to look at and ‸ there are other things that we are not to, uh really parlay ‸ any decision making factor. So
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been provided to us this evening in regards to the number of offsets that are being made in terms of them mitigating their own water and how that water is being, uh drained from that property and to what is known as the open basin system. um second to that, um in preparation for this, there were several amendments that were made available to all of us, as citizens
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of
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particular attachments that were made available on the online report was a stormwater report. that report was made available to all of us to review in our leisure, either at this time prior to the meeting or henceforth thereafter. ‸ So those are just some of the couple of housekeeping things that I wanted to at least bring forward before we, we, we try to bring this to a surmise because oftentimes we all want to be concerned with water and where water is going. I'm concerned with where water goes in my neighborhood just as well as the next, but there are some things that, that are inherent to development. There are some things that are inherent to all of us just being good citizens. And there are some
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And unfortunately, within uh traffic engineering findings, you don't find railings that exist the whole entire mile length. um
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of necessary concern, but you don't see consistent railing for an entire mile uh just to mitigate a ditch. So those were my points and finding
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wanted to share um before we get ready to move forward as it's just a citizen and a fellow board member to all of us here today.
[01:41:52] Speaker 1
No, but you are but you are part of the project area, so we also take your considerations into account. We understand that you're
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of coco It doesn't matter if you're incorporated or not. You're still part of coco
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are here
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here representing coco
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So when you stand before the podium, it didn't matter if you were incorporated or unincorporated. We all let you have your voice, your three minutes. That's the point. We understand that you think that just because you're county that you don't matter or whatever. But guess what? We allowed you through our doors. We welcomed you into our doors. and We asked you, please stand before the podium and make yourself heard. We
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wanted to be heard. We
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let you have your comments. And to the best of our ability, we tried to provide you with answers. We understand that they may not be the answers that you wanted or that you needed. But we did our best to provide you with answers. That is why we
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[01:43:22] Speaker 1
So I'm sorry if you ‸ didn't get the answers you want. And when we go before the uh the voting process here, I also need you to understand that regardless of what we vote for, I do believe that this is, again, just going to be a recommendation to city council. City council has the final set So even if we vote and we say we do not recommend the approval or the for city council to say, yes, go forward with it. You need to go again before City Council and voice your opinions there as well. We just provided a recommendation to City Council. So this is step one. Step two is go to City Council. We greatly appreciate you showing up tonight. Thank you. Board, do we have any further comments or
[01:44:24] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
questions? I'd like to clarify one point. Yes, sir. um I had read, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the original number of units for this prop property, uh this development, was 600 and it
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I correct on that? You
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are correct. uh
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was from 600 in the original settlement down in the implementation to 418 and approved at 385. And they
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of uh wetland
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Based on those points, uh I'd like to make a motion that we approve this project and uh with the recommendation that the staff provided and all the engineers and everyone else that's involved to make this a quality project because, as it was stated earlier, everybody had mentioned how attractive the drawings are.
[01:45:20] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Please keep your comments to yourself. I'd like a
[01:45:23] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
clear clarification from the City staff that all we're voting on here tonight is a rezoning from one
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plan. Is that correct? Is that what we're doing here?
[01:45:42] Speaker 30
Yes, and the preliminary plat.
[01:45:44] Speaker 8
Preliminary plats you said?
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yes Yes, that goes with it. my
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all right We'll go ahead and take a
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in favor, say aye aye. Aye. All opposed, say nay. Nay.
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nay
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miss
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[01:46:46] Speaker 2
I'm gonna ‸ do a roll call. How about that?
[01:46:48] Speaker 1
There you go.
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Chair Simpson?
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Nay.
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Board Member Park?
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Aye.
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Board Member Wheeler?
[01:47:01] Speaker 10
Aye.
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Alternate Burgess? Aye. I'm
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believe that's five to two. That makes it a recommendation for City Council to go ahead and approve. So with that being said, all this is is for a rezone. So I strongly advise the community that showed up tonight the
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[01:47:46] Speaker 1
again show up to City Council, find out the date again. This does not mean that this large scale site plan has been approved. All it is is a zoning change so that they may go before and do the rest of what they need to do
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everything done. You've
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they have a lot more to do before this can even move forward. So I want to thank the community for showing up. Thank you for having your comments. Thank you for having your questions.
[01:48:21] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
May I make ‸ one suggestion before you all leave? you
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you. Mr. Wheeler has lived here for 40 years, I'm aware. Thank you.
[01:48:53] Speaker 1
Okay, let's. Let's please. Let's please. Let's please. Let's. Let's. ‸ move on, please. All right. Item C consideration of a zoning map amendment.
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hmm
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we need
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‸ okay you got a second okay so five-minute break all in favor say aye all
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Don't
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I'm proud of you. I
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you. Yeah,
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what
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[02:01:30] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay, if we can get us back going again. Call
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get right ahead and
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Item C, consideration of the zoning map amendment. And I do believe this is going to be for Matthew's Hope.
[02:01:58] Speaker 31 + overlapping voice
Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Steve
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I just have to recuse myself.
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Sorry.
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Sorry, go ahead.
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Yes. It'll be made part of the minutes in the next ‸ board meeting. Yes, of course.
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Ms. Burgess, don't forget to fill out the form before you. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Sorry about that. Take two.
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Steve Noto, RBI Planning and Landscape Architecture, presenting this item on behalf of city staff. This is a ‸ rezoning request for 5.88 ‸ acres of property located at the intersection of Grimes and Forest and the intersection of US 1 and Hillcrest Drive. Subject property currently operates as Matthew's Hope, the nonprofit faith-based homeless outreach ministry. An
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The current future land use designation of the property is HDR, high-density
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This designation of the subject property was changed on July 22nd to 2023 from commercial to high-density residential. Zoning of the subject property is institutional. It was previously split zoned, RU215 on the eastern side and RU225 on the west. The applicant is requesting a rezone of 1.002 acres of the subject property to RU215. The
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This was based on the legal description that was provided by the applicant, and it was cross-referenced by GIS. And again, this is general location, and I'll show some ‸ additional exhibits to show what the intent is of that location. And this is the aerial that shows that general location. I know it's a little zoomed out. The intent is to impact the building area as it ‸ relates to the rezoning request, and I'll get into that. Just a moment.
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facilities on-site to include multifamily units within the 1.002 acres of the total 5.88 acre subject site, ‸ which includes the existing daycare, which
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special exception approval from the Board of Adjustment on
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the rezoning area. As
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the rezoning area is more centrally located on the site as opposed to being on the western portion, which was shown in the exhibits. The planned use of the rezoning area,
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the 1.002 acres, is
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low-income multifamily housing units as part of the Matthews Hope Organization, which currently operates ‸ on the subject property. The
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portion of the existing structure in the space that was previously utilized as classrooms for the former church. So I'll just go back if I'm able to, there we go. Just for reference purposes, you can see the existing building on the overhead. You'll notice the white roof of the structure. That is where the work would be done in order to construct the multifamily units. There would not be new construction on the greenfield space to the north of that. This would only occur within the existing footprint of the building. On July 25th, 2023, the city council adopted ordinance 06 2023, which amended the
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the subject property from commercial to high density residential. The purpose of that amendment was to start the first step, which leads to this rezoning request. ‸ As I mentioned before,
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was ‸ previously zoned. The subject
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The purpose of the previous zoning
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institutional in 2016 was to provide for an electronic sign, which was not permitted in the residential zoning districts. The future lane
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as it sits, the
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‸ However, as I mentioned, only 1.002 acres of the subject property is going to be classified as RU215. While the HDR allows a maximum of 25 units per acre, the RU215 is actually more restrictive, capping out at 15 units per acre. So a maximum of 15 units could only be constructed within that 1.002 acre space. ‸ That's part of the reason for the shape of that 1.002 acres is it's being limited to that area for the subject property. The
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dwelling units. In your staff board is a full analysis of the rezoning request on pages two to six. And they
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the Land Development Code, Article 21, Section 1G. I'm going to touch on just a couple of the findings for discussion purposes. The first one is a the proposed
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contrary to the established land use pattern. This is a little lengthy, so I apologize in advance. I'll try to be brief. The
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The residential uses to the south are zoned RU215 with a commercial feature land use, but they are developed as single family homes. As you know, the proposed to RU215 zoning district is not contrary to that land use pattern. The applicant will be required to comply with the development standards of RU215 multifamily dwelling district of the code of ordinances. The proposed partial rezoning area would encompass plus or minus one acre, which currently includes the daycare center and classroom buildings, which are located on the northern portion of the site and buffered from single family homes to the south on Hillcrest Drive. The
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to ‸ the future land use map and would have an adverse effect on the comp plan. The existing future land use designation of the subject property is HDR, as I mentioned. The proposed rezoning is consistent with future land use settlement policy 1123. And
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shows that RU215 is an applicable zoning district for the HDR future land use category. In short, that means the proposed zoning district complies with the existing future land use ‸ category. Finding F change or changing conditions make the passage of the proposed amendment necessary. The applicant stated in their application that the needs of the community has changed and that's their words on the application that they have proposed the partial rezoning in order to support the low income housing initiative and to accommodate the low cost daycare facility on site. Any additional uses beyond what are allowed by the existing institutional zoning, which is limited requires a rezoning. The proposed rezoning will accommodate the existing daycare on site and will be consistent with the surrounding zoning districts and a mix of residential commercial ‸ institutional uses. Finding
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The maximum density allowed by the future
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designation is 25 units an acre. As I
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a maximum of 15 dwelling units. On top of that, the applicant is proposing to provide six dwelling units as part of this project. In either case of six or 15, the proposed change will not adversely influence living conditions in
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parking lot and former church slash Matthews Hope buildings. The form of the subject property is not anticipated to change in that the access points and the building footprint are anticipated to remain the same. The intended use of the area to be
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is expected to improve the living conditions of those that are unable to currently house themselves as they transition to stable housing. As I mentioned, the shape of the rezone is ‸ proposed as it is in order to provide that additional buffering and ‸ minimize the impact as that would come from the rezoning request. One thing that I want to add into the presentation, which is not detailed in the staff ‸ report, is some of the policies from the comp plan that the request, the
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request specifically is consistent with. As I alluded to earlier, it's consistent with the allowable uses under the HDR future land use category. Out
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which is assist the private sector to create additional units and preserve existing units to satisfy the projected demand of dwelling units of various types, sizes and costs, which will be needed to house the city's anticipated population through the planning horizon. Policy
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local government partnerships with the private sector in order to improve the efficiency and expand the capacity of the housing delivery system. Policy
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the city shall ensure supporting infrastructure and public facilities are available and maintained to support the location of very low income, low income and moderate income households as well as for mobile and manufactured homes. And lastly, policy 3.3.2.7, the
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encourage the development or redevelopment of housing that will integrate a variety of housing types and styles in all neighborhoods. Staff is recommending that the planning ‸ zoning board recommend approval to the city council of zoning
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‸ Change ‸ zoning map designation of one parcel
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As you mentioned, Mr. Chairman, like the previous item, this is a recommendation to council. So we go to the council after this recommendation. I'll be happy to take any questions you may have. The applicant is also here this evening if you have questions for them. Thanks.
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clarification purposes and very well presented, but I'm going to want to use more layman terms. ‸ The zoning request back to that photograph. I didn't get it in my
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Which one are you looking for, sir? I can pull it up.
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Yes, sir.
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Okay. Is that the dimensions for this zoning change or?
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Yes, sir.
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It does not include the rest of the property.
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Correct. The previous slide probably shows it better.
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The rest would remain.
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Right. So back to the other picture. You mentioned that the existing building is the one that has the white roofs as you see.
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Yes, sir.
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And ‸ they're not going, well, they could later, I guess, expand to the north end of that blue line. Is that correct?
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They could conceptually. Yes,
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now it's going to be strictly inside the building that's existing.
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Right.
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Um, it's going to be a total of six new units.
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Yes.
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And, uh, how many units could they include on the north part if they decide to go that route? So
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So they could go another, uh, that
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be another nine units. Nine. That's
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and these, these residential units, if you want to call them that, that is strictly transitional use to where people could potentially, uh, get in a stronger position to buy a permanent home. Is that correct?
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That's correct. And it would be best for the applicant to, to more, they have a separate presentation and they can better describe the actual use of the space.
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Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. All right.
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I have two questions.
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properties?
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I couldn't speak to that to great detail. Um,
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it's, it's a case by case basis. Typically you would might see something like a PUD rezone that would impact an entire property or have a developer's agreement. Um, in lieu of something like that, you could do something like this and it's a, it's an, it's a tool to limit the overall, let me back up. The alternative would be rezone
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this is a different, a different kind of way to limit the number of residential units throughout the entire property, uh, project area. So do you have any precedent?
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Of this type of, uh, zoning change that you could, um, off the top of my head? I don't think I could.
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I've never seen this.
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Chair,
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do have a question. Um, good evening. Uh, ‸ my most immediate question is I would like to know what is defined as a dwelling unit.
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I will pull that up ‸ just a moment.
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I mean, are we going by code or are we going by ‸ the city defines as a dwelling unit? I'm guessing it'd be a legal, uh,
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legal description based off of it. Yes.
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legal description. ‸ I was going
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building code normally defines a dwelling unit as anything that has walls, a roof, electricity, and running water.
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based on the number of units.
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there's dwelling unit or living unit, which
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complete housekeeping facilities for one person or one family. In addition to that, you
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families with the number of families and residents not exceeding the number of dwelling units provided.
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Thank you. Yes, sir. My question is how many people are going to be living in those units? I would need to defer that question to the applicant.
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While she's pulling that up. My name is Hannah French. I'm the executive director of the porch light
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those who would otherwise be homeless without intervention. ‸ We believe that home that housing is a virtuous cause, a moral and ethical endeavor that can provide for the fundamental need for human shelter in creative and life enhancing ways. We're
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We're
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basic needs such as clothes, food, house,
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individuals and families living without shelter in Brevard County. As Mr. Noto mentioned, we're here seeking a partial rezoning of this parcel in order for them to be able to expand their offering to include transitional housing. So
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to clarify some of the questions from the board, as he mentioned last June,
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use change. And at that meeting concerns were raised about the high density residential use as well as the entire parcel being affected. So tonight we're amended. We've amended our application to address those concerns to a medium density. Are
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indicated they would be supportive of as well as limited the area of rezoning to the single acre. It
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Mr. Noto mentioned that's currently under special exception. Also to reiterate, the scope of this work is only in an existing facility. We're not proposing any new structure. This is an overview of the site. There's a sanctuary that exists. There's a social hall where they offer hot meals. There's a shower facility. There's the preschool. I
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There's a hair and nail salon. So we're just focused on the area and purple, which is labeled classrooms. So
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over the last 65 years, certainly some things have changed, but it gives you an idea. The six, the limit to six units, I think is questionable. We're still figuring out where the unit boundaries would be, but certainly would never exceed the zoning request. So here are some photos of the existing conditions. Um, these were kind of left vacant. They're not being utilized today and we want to give them a new purpose. So we would plan to remove the acoustic ceiling tile, replace the flooring. We would add full kitchen and bath. So
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would be like a normal apartment. I also want to reference existing transitional housing that Matthews hope operates in winter garden, just to give you an idea of the quality. These are really handsomely appointed. We think they're consistent with any market rate or permanent housing that
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find anywhere. And this is the quality that we would intend to achieve. So what we know from the decade plus of Matthews hope operating this program in winter garden is that it works and it works because there's a unique blend of accountability required from each participant as well as a high degree of personalized support. I also want to walk through a few things and dispel a few rumors. Um, this is what differs about Matthews hope versus potentially some other programs. First, this isn't just open to anyone. This is not going to be advertised publicly. ‸ Matthews hope
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They
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That is a staggering need in the community. So given the size of this rezoning request, one acre max 15
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So Matthews hope uses great discretion in selecting people who've demonstrated consistency, the interest and ability in moving toward a life of independence. Second, every person who enters this program is full time employed minimum 40 hours a week. In lieu of a lease or a rental agreement, there is a program fee, a portion of which goes into an escrow account as a forced savings. So at the end of the program, typically two years, there's a really nice nest egg for that individual or for that family to put a permit, put
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Further, as you see here, participants agree to random ‸ drug testing inspections of the units. Curfews weekly classes that develop and improve financial literacy and develop other life skills that are critical to success as graduates. So again, these are the key ingredients to the success of the program and real and sustained life transformation. So speaking of success, here are some of the faces of the people involved in the moving forward program and a couple graduates. This is the part where I get a little emotional. The people that are featured here and would be a part of this program. They're the dishwasher at your favorite restaurant. They clean hotel rooms at the last place you vacationed. They're in line with you ‸ at Walmart. They're pumping their gas adjacent to you, and you might even you might not even recognize that they're homeless. These are everyday individuals and families who found themselves in need after crisis or trauma. It could have been the loss of a spouse, the loss of a child, domestic violence, a
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The list goes on and many Americans don't have the financial cushion to whether
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the loss of a partner's income. These individuals were no different. The line between stability and homelessness is very thin. But these individuals now, having gone through the program, are not only living independently, but they're now able to invest in others. Two of these gentlemen work in the wood shop. They're helping train others in carpentry and help them develop a skill that can gain income for them. Others coach peers through challenges with addiction that they faced in the past. Again, this program works. We can see it through the dozens of lives already impacted. All
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mind, body and spirit. I
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their community. Several studies across time have indicated that affordable housing or nonprofit community housing can actually improve property values. They can reduce crime statistics and they
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grew up in without having to commute hours to a minimum wage job. But
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a tent in the woods or living on the street, because I believe that whether you live in a waterfront mansion or whether you're one of the hundreds of people who show up at Matthew's Hope every week, you deserve a safe place to live. In
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of needs. At the foundation of that pyramid, along with air, food, water, is shelter. His theory is without those basic needs being met, one cannot achieve the additional levels of safety, belonging, self-esteem, self-actualization, becoming the best version of oneself. So tonight, I hope that you'll agree that this is an opportunity for the city of Coco in partnership with private organizations to provide for that fundamental human need for shelter. For those who so desperately seek it and give them an opportunity to become the best versions of themselves. I respectfully request your recommendation of this rezoning. I appreciate the opportunity to present and thank you for your consideration. Should I remain here for questions or sit down?
[02:26:12] Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm going to ask my board members if they have any questions for ‸ you.
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this board when we last were presented with some changes that you guys want to make there under which we played a part in so I find this presentation I'm taking a page from Alex now see find this presentation to be most knowledgeable in regards to what it is that you guys are looking to transition to I know that initially there were some immediate concerns and I will say that this has addressed the concerns that we specifically spoke about at this particular board in terms of zoning when when the zoning was being considered so
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is not the most traditional approach, but it preserves some of the things that were of great caution to a few of us that serve here on this board. so I'm
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was first brought for us and I went ahead and supported it when it was brought before us and ultimately the council supported it but the part that I want to share with everybody today is I saw Matthew's Hope in action at a recent Main Street ‸ and they
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call you Mr. Blue Scott's mom
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he was there in the meeting and he addressed the concerns and he made a very good gave a very good idea of how that it can be addressed and everybody in the Main Street area which is basically the whole downtown area was very happy that he handled it the way that he did now I own property near this property as well and ironically when this was brought before us that was at the same time that
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we had somebody breaking into cars and houses it was it was basically at the same time so that enhanced everybody's concern now
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garden where winter garden
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winter garden and
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that your facility was over there and now
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saw some of the photographs that you provided today now I see why the mayor was that impressed with it I give
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the credit to Mr.
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I'm just the builder so
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like to know what the other people in the audience here might want to add to
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to this item that's being presented to us but the one idea that I liked is that they are limiting this expansion right now to the area that you all presented and what that tells me is that not only are you offering something for people that is going through transition and it's not permanent long term it's until people can get off that's
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the other thing is that you're doing this in phases and if
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think you'll get less and less controversy in reference to how Matthew hope offers their services and I think I'm comfortable with what was presented today and I'd like to say
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see the continuation of the success because this group has I was surprised has already offered and helped other issues that came in the downtown area as well as the area where they're at there and I'm glad to see that that changed my mind
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That's great news. So
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thank
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you.
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‸ yes I'm kind of surprised is there a reason why you don't have any of your graduates here tonight
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they're in Orange County and they will be at City Council again it's not my program so I'm the applicant but we do intend to have graduates at the City Council meetings forthcoming
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okay I just want to clarify that there's no shortage of compassion from the citizens of Coco even if people oppose this there's nothing wrong with that okay I think one thing we need to keep in mind that there's
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the residents have to take into consideration and the one thing that I always comes to my mind is if if you or I were to put a hummingbird feeder in our backyard would
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thank you
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been an uptick in single women who are fleeing domestic violence situations with multiple children. So we would seek to accommodate both of those. So it's hard to say the perfect ratio, but we wouldn't we don't have the space to get a full 15 units so I would venture to say 15 to 20 is probably the max, including children.
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what's what's the plan? What's the five-year plan for the green area?
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don't
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know there's a vision or Is there more units could be built
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ball but residential units are very expensive to build out of the ground. And we're both not for profits and don't have endless funds to build out of the ground. Although it would be lovely to expand the program that you're seeing our full intent today
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okay and I just got it on a personal note
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the last two months. We've had a tremendous amount of foot traffic at night. People getting into cars. People unfortunately leave their cars unlocked. That's not that's their ‸ problem. But there is a concern out there. Of the amount of people that are coming to Matthew's Hope and then after the five o'clock or whenever they're dispersed. They're out in the in the community. And that's a bunch of businesses across the street. us
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attempted break, broke into. and I'm
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the community and you guys need to be aware of it
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right and I guess what I would offer in response to that is regardless
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still going to operate and still going to bring in people who have need. Primarily,
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they came from. I
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last hearing, it was found to be a repeat offender who had just been released and re-burglarized
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same neighborhood and had no affiliation to Matthew's Hope that's that's what we discovered afterward but I hear the concerns I
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do also want to point out that my
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literally same street as the American Legion and I have to have her make sure that she texts me and calls me as soon as she leaves that
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building because
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it's not just Matthew's Hope it's it's all over it's
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a real need and this is a solution that can help transition people I mean over a decade you're gonna ‸ see dozens of people move into independence, get off the streets, and they're not going to be desperate to break into someone's car because they have shelter that they're thrilled to keep any
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other comments concerns questions
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know it's from ‸ representative so
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thank you I'm gonna ‸ go ahead and ask mr. billow to get up there and say some words I know you're chomping at the bit
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the kid that dropped out of high school I'm the kid who became homeless because my little brother my mother had the audacity to have a child that was born with three holes in its heart. So my little brother, Jason had to have three heart surgery time he's one he's one first one of six weeks the third by time he was one after his father molested my sister and I ‸ took off I raised my sister
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my mother stayed at the hospital to take care of my little brother with the hopes that he would live. My greatest memory is
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cleaning out his trach so he wouldn't drown his
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people that somehow I made it up the corporate ladder I became ‸ commodities trader
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made the six figure income I had the nice house of the water and I drove the BMW and then God did this really weird little thing with me for those of you that are believers I
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a pastor in my late 30s and
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I come up in 62 years old what I learned back then I've
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I've learned over the years, we
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in contacting our state representatives to deal with the real issue that we have here, which is mental illness. We don't have a homeless issue that people talk ‸ about. oh there's homeless. Believe me, there's many. We've registered
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know, you mentioned about the I think you use the word about the beat bird feeder I'll answer ‸ in two ways for you orange county is
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bed law now for I don't know 20 years the bed law was designed for this that if we only have 3,000 beds they won't come mr. Anderson I'm not sure how familiar you are with orange county but I'm
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the idea of they're gonna ‸ come no they were here I actually moved to this area because what I do for a living now I'll never retire I will simply die at work one day that's just the fact so I came over here to get near the water because I grew up near the water and I said you know if I live near the water maybe I'll live longer and I wanted to get away from being in the middle of it every day because I couldn't even good breathe because everybody wanted to talk to me about solving the homeless issue in Orange County so I moved over here and every time I go out we would see more and more homeless people like many of you I
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a lot of time in the village like you I spend many much time around this area enjoying the things that this community has to offer and like you I saw a problem but rather than complain about it God moved to my heart and I decided to do something about it I can't solve homelessness though and those of you ‸ that are believers and I'm not here to judge I didn't know I ‸ was only being on three minutes I
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was part of our presentation
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bring this up because ‸ those of you that are believers you can't say we're ‸ made in the image of Christ but not you doesn't matter who you are You're not better than anybody else. And
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got to start thinking about that. Because today, the reason I was almost late here is because a woman
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domestic violence showed up at our
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I'm not an emergency shelter, but when they called everybody else is supposed to be doing something about this they couldn't come it was after hours we're at capacity I mean I'm hearing it all So what we did is we made sure that little girl's not sleeping on the street tonight. Because that's what we do. This housing, look, my security is so strong, it's better than the cities We have 45 cameras with facial recognition at 300 ‸ feet. That's a football field. From a football field, I can tell you the color of your eyes I can also tell you that nobody is on our property at night now do I deny people are walking down the streets no I do not if you know anything about that that area it's been like that for years and years. they
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quite frankly, most of the best drug deals are done right there around the water tower. But
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my folks aren't dealing with addictions Because some of them are. But generally speaking, our fastest growing populations are three. Seniors that did everything right. They put in their 20, 25 years. They got the gold watch. They built the pension up. Only to find that their pension wasn't designed for this economy. And so when their spouse died, they lost that partial income they got from the Social Security. And we
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and 85 years old every week now
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not looking to I can't fix that. But you
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the gossip and the baloney of some of the stuff that I've heard second one is those with physical ‸ mental disabilities I'm not talking about mentally ill I'm talking about physical and mentally disability What happened is these people typically died in their 30s. But due to modern medicine, they're now living as long as the rest of us, into their 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s. The problem is their caregivers are dying 30 years before they do. And there's no plan. And so they walk our streets. Back in the Reagan administration we shut down all the institutions there was supposed to be a better plan. But instead, the better plan became that this. If you were to go to any one of our jails or prisons, you would see the bulk of the people there I said the
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another, we let them roam our streets. So what do we do? We fund things like aspire or circles of care and stuff like that. So what happens is even the police officer, we what we try very closely with with the police department here and I got to tell you those guys are working hard and even the chief said to me the other day he goes well what where are they gonna go I said chief there's nowhere to go. What happens is now some of the police department actually is working with with with social workers and mental health care counselors going out to address these issues. And what happens is this is exactly what happens they are either marching back or or they were Baker
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they will stay for 24 to 72 hours. They are diagnosed and then they are released with no follow-up care
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there they see the same doctors getting this paid the same money, diagnosed once again, the same diagnosis they got three weeks ago as schizophrenic. They are normally released less than 72 hours and they are put back on the streets. No
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bless you okay but here's the reality of it okay I'm
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don't believe in giving people anything I don't believe God owes us anything nor does do we owe anything to our neighbor other than to love them and offer opportunity and that's what we do. We're
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to just in the last three years, rents have gone
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same crap they lived in the whole time. But here's the fun part we did with it. Now we make it required, and you guys are all either my age or younger but ‸ close enough I'm 60
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apartment with probably a couple buddies or whatever. Maybe you got one on your own if you did well enough, and then eventually you saved up to buy a house. The
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to have an income of seventy
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think about that. The wise thing would be to build a house even ‸ these higher interest rates. The problem is they're not making seventy
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second problem is wherever they do get in they can't save any money to get into a place you think it's rough now and I'm gonna ‸ put it bluntly to you. The
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if you go back and look in May 18th and in the Sentinel I was quoted in saying Central Florida which includes this area should be preparing for a homeless tsunami now I did that based on the fact that I was a financial planner and I was commodities trader that's what I did for a long time and I looked at what's happening with the markets and what was happening with the economy and housing, what have you and I said this is gonna ‸ get bad
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the pandemic hit what I said in that newspaper that would take about three to five years happened literally overnight. We grew by 500
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literally 90 days. And we haven't stopped growing there this
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we've
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we can not make eye contact which ‸ some of the people in this room prefer if
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I suggest we humanize these people once again. If
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when you treat them like the human being and God save your soul if you simply treat them like another person that was made according to scripture in the image of God then we can no longer stand here and go me not you you're not good enough to walk down my street because I was blessed enough okay
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what it is now here's the other thing I'll tell you I purposely drive and have all my logo trucks and there's a bunch of vans buses and trucks you see them around town I purposely ask them to drive through the neighborhoods around us and through the village every time they come and leave so someone is going through that neighborhood in a Matthew soap vehicle anywhere from 6 a.m. in the morning till usually as low as late as midnight. And quite honestly, we're not seeing anything that's being talked about. Now, you want to go down a little bit further down by the water tower? That's been there for a long time. You have people, by the way, sleeping in the cemetery. So you really need to figure out what does Cocoa want to look like. You guys don't get paid squat to do this. You're
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Let's look at the reality. Facts are crime is down. You can call it anything you want to. Crime is down and crime has not been happening around Matthew.
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and no one is on our property. Now, one
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thing I'll say to you, we
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inviting the public on our facility. We hand wrote, hand wrote invitations to each of the homes in the area. We ‸ held three meetings. We had a total of six homes, excuse me, six people show up representing four houses. And all we ask is rather than gossip and knock on doors and tell people stuff like we're building a high rise or this crime or that crap is happening is come see for yourself. I have a hair salon that looks like any hair salon any of you ladies ever walked into with beauticians in there that help these women. When you see a woman start to cry and look in the mirror and say, I haven't seen that girl in a long time. That's a good day. Had a guy get his ‸ big old beard taken off the other day here and he got in tears and he goes, Scott, this is me. This is me.
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I said, wow,
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I worked at Publix my whole life until I had an injury and I wasn't covered and I lost everything. Okay. These guys on the corner down here with signs, 90% of those are not homeless. And the ones that are homeless are not going to be
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your money. The way you intended. I don't believe in panhandling. Why would you panhandle on the
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I have a medical team that is that, that has doctors and nurses working there. I have a hair salon. I will do your laundry. I will feed you several times a week. I ‸ will give you jobs to do. I can keep going.
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That's not who we are. In fact, one thing that separates us from everybody that I know about across, not just locally, in the country, we do a background check on every single homeless person that walks in. Every single one of them. Not to
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disqualify
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we're working with. Now I will say because we run a Montessori preschool that has been rated number one in Orange County for seven of our eight years because our first year wasn't a full year. It's true fact you can look it up. Because we have Montessori preschool and because we sit in the middle of the neighborhood, if you're a sexual offender, we approach you and we say, excuse me, you probably know ‸ we found on your background check and most the time ago yes I do. What was your intention
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coming here today? I was hoping to get this and this and
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and this. I say okay here's what we're gonna do. Okay we're going to take care of that need today and then we're gonna flag your file. If you come back here again we're calling the police. However if you let us know where you're living in the community we will serve you with one of our mobile teams that go out twice a week with food, clothing and hygiene. Now I got to tell you someone who's been molested as a kid I want to paint you orange and put a frickin siren on you. However, however, take us out of the picture and watch what happens. Because they're gonna ‸ have to get that food, clothing, hygiene somewhere. And we're trying to find, we've not ‸ trying, we have successfully done it for 14 years, showing how it can be done. To the point that this past year Orange County approached us and offered us a million dollar contract for Orange County for us to help them. Because you see you can only keep throwing money down a dark hole for so long. And our government is famous for it. I don't take government money I take taxpayer money and I use it wisely. But out
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Orange County last year none of it was government money not one penny. This year that budget will be closer to 10 million and now we did just take the 1 million up for this coming year. Over here just in the
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That was just on food clothing hygiene and basic medical. That
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I have to carry. It doesn't cover our salaries it doesn't cover any of that. And if you look us up and again if somebody really cared rather than complain they can go on guides guide star. Guide star is a clearinghouse of nonprofits. Guide star.org. And what guide star you can spend days on if you want to but what it will tell you it will tell you exactly everything you possibly want to know to how we're paid, where our money comes from, how we spend it, how many people we help, how many thousands of pounds of food we go through, the whole nine yards. We have had a platinum rating since the very first day we started 14 years ago. We take what we do very seriously and by prideful. I would not walk around with all my people with big Matthews Hope logos if I we're not comfortable with who we are. I'll take it a step further. If somebody were to take the time to walk two and a half blocks they would see on our property men and women with gray shirts
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Planting. Planting in our garden out back that has a chemical free garden. Working on our vehicles. Building custom furniture in our shop. Making home decor. If
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‸ sold thousands of ornaments this weekend because we taught people how to use CNC machines and laser cutters and how to build custom furniture old style way.
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I tell people when
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little more character like our people do. When their stuff falls off the truck just leave it. There's not enough pieces to pick up. Guys, I don't want to preach to anybody. But I have been called things in this very chamber. I had someone flip me the finger. Give me the finger in this very chamber. I drive by a couple of neighbors that do nothing but give me a dirty look but won't stop to ask me anything. But you know what most of the
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They've been waving at us. We were just in the parade in Merritt Island this weekend. I was having one of those mornings because I've been dealing with some health issues and I was sitting there just kind ‸ of being a sad sack. And as we're waiting to pull out for the parade, I'm sitting in my
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You're dealing with some unknown health issues. What the hell are you still doing this for? And then it was time for the parade to move. And as we came down, Courtney, here's all we saw. Matthew's
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to our vehicles and shake our hand. Thank us for being there. Because the other thing we do is we hide the homeless in plain sight. When they come in and they get haircuts and showers and I
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But you know what? That's what people, little people do.
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don't appreciate that. It's not fair. You're right. And it's wrong. But I will tell you that passive aggressive nature, just it's hurtful. Because I got to tell you, our folks, our folks are good folks. We have local businessmen that are all business people that are already hiring them. If you walk through Cocoa
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you will see the reason. I'm
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of this is because in her front window, it says she's a Matthews Hope community partner, along with probably about another 30. That's because it's only the first 30 we've spoken to. And what we tell them is that when they see that Matthews Hope sticker, that means
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can't walk in and you can't harass the customers. You'll be told to go to Matthew's Hope. It works. If it didn't work, I wouldn't do it again because I'm too gosh damn old to start over. But I encourage each one of you, if you've never been to our facility, come see it. The first thing I'll tell you are my houses are as nice as any house you live in, and I've never been to your home. They're smaller, but they have oil rubbed bronze fixtures. They have nickel plated fixtures. They have the beautiful wood ceilings. They have the whole nine yards. Why? Because people have learned how to live in a box. People live in boxes, cardboard boxes. How much more demeaning can it get? And so my goal is to raise that bar higher and give them an opportunity to dream. What do you want to be when you grow up? Some of these people have degrees, but the wheels fell off. We have had NASA engineers. I've had pastors. I've had nurses. I've had teachers. Half the people we serve are more educated than I'll ever hope to be. But typically, in 99% of the time, some type of trauma took place. It's typically a loss of a child, which is very common. That makes the wheels fall off really quick, or a loss of a spouse. For a lot of men, the ‸ NASA guys that we used to get was when NASA fell apart. We
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All of a sudden, nothing was happening. ‸ And we had some guys that became homeless that were NASA engineers. They were defined by what they did. That's
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So I ask you that whatever you decide, Matthew's Hope itself, we're here to stay. We've invested $5
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to natural gas. We got it off the septic system. We're on city water now. We've cleaned up and done things on the property people can only dream of. And it looks good. And
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But we made the investment. We're here to stay. What we're asking you to do is look very closely at what's happening in your own community and understand that, again, if these people have curfews, are being drug tested, are having their places inspected weekly, have ‸ to have requirements of caring for our trucks. They ‸ help us help them help themselves. We're not here to do anything for anybody. We're here simply to walk with them, kind of like Jesus did. Weird, I know. But that's what we do. And I thank you for your time. If there's any questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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this.
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streets as a kid, it kind of does that to you.
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me. I remember.
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And they've done that.
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we're not all bad. Some of us make it. But it helps when we got a helping hand. We're
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Well, that's great. But what's that going to do? We just...we give opportunity. Our moniker is Matthew's Hope is a ministry first and foremost. Demonstrating, not telling, demonstrating the love, hope, grace, and mercy of Jesus Christ in all we do. And we are a facilitator of opportunity for those who choose. That is a key word here. Choose to move forward towards a life of independence and self-sustainability. It
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I have asked that a number of our volunteers, or excuse me, a number of our graduates would come. You saw the lady with the Down syndrome daughter, a Disney employee that was living in her car. Her younger sister, the younger sister dropped out of high school to take care of the older sister. We had to prove she had Down syndrome, which with chromosome testing, we helped them get that so they could get the benefits. Sherry
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And she came ‸ into our program, $18,000 in debt. And she left with $15,000 in her pocket debt free. Another guy you saw ‸ there, Miguel, he lost his wife. And he lost his job because he lost his sight. We had surgeries done. Now he has 20-20 vision. And he works for me now teaching other men how to do it. The other girl you saw pictured, that was Shannon. She
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She just closed. She was homeless and on the streets three years ago. She closed on her own house with her money and her credit. Four weeks ago, and last Sunday night, we were invited to her home for a dinner party for her to say thank you to us. Gentlemen, ladies, ‸ that's how it's done. And it can be done. And I defy anybody in this room to show otherwise.
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Thank you. ‸ Okay.
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everybody else, I'm going to ask to please stay to the three minutes. Charlene,
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you to please stay to the three minutes. Okay.
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Matthews. Hope I've been with Matthews hope now for approximately six years. Wanted to touch on one of our graduates, Shannon. So
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she was one of our people in the program. Young girl. ‸ Pretty bad teeth looked pretty rough. And
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it. It's almost like childbirth. No one else is going to do it. But that woman who's given birth can't pass that off. She
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what she had to and she worked forward. Now, when
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I'll say it.
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Because now I lived here. And now I'm seeing it in my own community. And in the first year, it the homeless population was just growing and growing before our eyes. And we knew how to do this. So I poked. And I pushed. And here we are today. I have to be honest with you. I never thought we'd be doing the numbers already that we're doing and the impact that we're making on the community. Now, getting back to Shannon. Before
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If you know a pop a pretty big Main Street down this way. I've
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In one year in a pop. If you don't think that the homeless situation is growing everywhere. It is in your backyard. We didn't bring them here. We're trying to help. Shannon has now taken over the route that I developed. She also runs part of our boutique. Where our homeless men and women. Are able to show showcase the items that they make and learned the skills in our woodshop. The very people that we're helping then pay it forward and teach skills to people who were in their positions. How could you not want that here to make your community better? That's all I have to say.
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Thank you.
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I have Paul Camus.
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Paul Camus [address] Coco. I want to share with you something that Maya Angelou ‸ said. People won't remember what you say. Or do. Only how you make them feel. You may or may not have heard that. I am city
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Started here in 86. Moved here. Bought
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Now that I'm retired, I have no emergency calls to go on. But you know what the emergency is out there? Litter. So that's what I do. I call it my four Ps. Pedestrian Prayer Pickup Program. I go out in my neighborhood. I walk the streets. I take two five gallon buckets. One for litter. One for recycle. I
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Then I go to forest. I
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Then I go south to the crosswalk in front of library. Picking up litter.
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I do this at least twice a week. There wasn't litter like there's litter now. I have a purple bag at home filled with food, drink, toilet or cleaning stuff. That was in a bush. I didn't feel it was appropriate to bring it here tonight. But that's just one bag. I can't tell you how many of these purple bracelets I picked up. I ask you. Join me in prayer. Because when I'm out there picking up the litter, I'm praying loud. I'm
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Practicing Catholic. I'm not here right now to change your vote. Because sitting back there looking at the expressions, hearing what's being said. I already know what the vote's going to be. And I'm okay with that. Because everything I do is for Jesus. And he knows that. Thank you all. And God bless.
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Thank you, sir. Molly Bennett.
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My name is Molly Bennett. I live at [address]. That's the street that runs by Matthew Hope. I'm not going to give you my life story because you wouldn't believe it if I did. But 25 years ago, I managed to buy myself a home. Me. Me. All me. I've lived on [address].
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year, my cars have been broken into twice. ‸ The man across the street, his cars were broken into. The people across the street, their house was broken into. I am very nervous, so I get up sometimes at two
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in the morning and walk around. And I see men walking down my street. Never before in 25 years has this happened. I
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I'm very sorry for the homeless people but there are jobs out there and if you want to work, you can work. Thank you.
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board members and all who are here serving our community really appreciate
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board members of planning and the community who came out to be here. Also would like to thank Matthews hope for for what they're doing and taking care of our fellow citizens. Who are without homes. I do have some concerns for the rezoning being due to what I've seen ‸ happen in our community since Matthews hope started my grandfather and grandmother lived in Cocoa Florida
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a house on Highland Street after both of them
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off of Highland Street and later inherited it. After my grandfather's passing. I
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my wife.
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love my wife and she is the love of my life. ‸ So I'm wanting to protect her keep her safe. I
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research can be done with the safety
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research I've been seeing shows increase of crime and 911 calls going up. I
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development corporation lowering. I don't believe that's what this is going to be. And so I'd like a little bit more research on this to I guess support this. I think what they are doing is great. But I believe that this place or dwelling for those without ‸ home right now there are other and better options. And so I believe that it's crucial to explore alternative solutions that we can effectively effectively address issues without imposing potential negative consequences in our community for safety. Public
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accountability for ‸ Matthew's hope. Public
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so I appreciate your time and thank you all for your service.
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you. Waseem
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I believe that this partial rezoning atypical odd action is going to jeopardize the safety of those businesses. Just putting six homes is not going to change a whole lot. I think they need to find another alternative for this. And I think it's going to be detrimental to the businesses. I
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That's all I have to say. Thank you.
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Gina Fadley? Are you going to be the final? Mr.
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[03:15:13] Speaker 24 (introduced as “Donna Zimmerman” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Hello. I'm Donna Zimmerman and my husband, Tom. And this will be very brief. We have some petitions that we would like to give to you, if it's okay. If he could pass them out, would that be all right?
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[03:15:30] Speaker 24 (introduced as “Donna Zimmerman” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
here. Okay. We've talked to many of the business owners along Forest Avenue and U.S. 1, along with the citizens of Hillcrest Drive, Grime Street, Upper and Lower Highland Street, Sunrise Street, Indian River Drive, Carmel Parkway and Mulberry. People at all those locations have signed these petitions. And we basically are here to say we do not approve of this proposed zoning change. Did you have anything ‸ to say?
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Let me add something. We
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I've been working on it for five years, just about got it done. The last six months we've been robbed. We've been broken into. My neighbor's been robbed. I've been confronted by a prostitute in the front yard. And
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couple of other cars have been broken into. Only concern I've got is my long time ago, my dad was Sheriff Zimmerman. And
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‸ the subdivisions come to him and not
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‸ Thank you for listening to us. Appreciate it.
[03:17:11] Speaker 24 (introduced as “Donna Zimmerman” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
We would like to concede,
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we can, give our extra time to Gina Fadley, who has extra things to say. I don't know how much time we have, but almost a minute.
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I'll consider it. Thank you. Okay. Since she would like to go last, I guess I'll call out Mark Fadley.
[03:17:50] Speaker 34 (introduced as “Mark Fadley” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Good evening, all. My name is Mark Fadley, and I live in close proximity to the property in question here. In fact, it was my family a few generations ago that gave that property to the Methodist Church in order for that facility to be built there. My parents live just behind that property on Indian River Drive. My wife's parents live next door to my parents. So we have a long-running history and awareness of that zone, that part
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I would like to address the question of whether or not there is a need for housing at the Matthews Hope property. And as far as we can understand, talking to the neighbors, collecting this petition and signatures, the neighborhood opinion is no, there is not a need for housing at Matthews Hope. Question O on their application for this rezoning asks whether or not the change suggested is out of scale with the needs of the neighborhood. And the answer to that is yes. It is out of scale with the needs of the neighborhood. As evidenced by the signed petition that we've just shared with you, the neighborhood does not need or want people to be housed at Matthews Hope, nor has it asked for such provisions. In
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You've just heard a few express that tonight, that adding overnight housing will only increase the adverse effects we are already experiencing because of the proximity of this facility to our houses. Question
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whether or not it is impossible to find other adequate sites in the city for the proposed use in districts already permitting such use. In
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is possible to find other sites
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housing. There is no need for this odd and ‸ illogical spot zoning smack in the middle of an existing property.
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Furthermore, other organizations
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in our area are already providing excellent housing solutions for the homeless. We can point to the long successful track record of Crosswind Youth Services on Dixon Boulevard with shelter facilities for runaway and at-risk youth. Housing for Homeless is building a brand new complex on Michigan Avenue called Orchid Lake due to open in the spring of 2024. And it will have 90 units with a total of 156 bedrooms, half of them for homeless people. New Life Mission has four facilities around Brevard County for homeless women and their children. And just opened New Life Village at the Hacienda Girls Ranch property in Melbourne. And
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and will be adding enough more in the near future for 100 families. So that to me, it makes perfect sense that especially these new options for homeless housing be further explored before rezoning in the middle of the Matthews Hope property. Thank you for your attention and consideration.
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just wanted to address a couple things. The gentleman that's already left, I believe, said something about the dance studio. Well, they actually want to rent from us to have their programming. And my question is,
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had that lady who came to us. Nobody could help her. Where are these people gonna ‸ go if we are not here to help them? What he was just talking about, the multi-family units, that's for affordable housing. that's not just for homeless
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please please if you're not the podium
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so I my question is is, are these people are not going anywhere? So, what would you, what is the solution? If you all think that we are not the solution, what is the solution? Thank you.
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Thank you.
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recused yourself on the board, so if you'd like to speak.
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can fill out a card You can fill... When you're done talking, fill out the form over there.
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speak. as Again, you'll have to fill out the the form. But you're speaking as a citizen, not as a board member. Yeah.
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so my name is Mary Beth Burgess I live on [address] and he is absolutely right we have a business in Cocoa Village as most of you know and I don't think anybody here and I know you're taking it this way but I don't think anybody is saying that Matthew's Hope is bad because I don't think it is I love everything that they do I agree with the stuff that they do we could all tell stories about where we came from I mean I went to a Christian University I went to my brother's a youth pastor I get the whole pastoral thing I'm a member of the LGBTQ and what we do at our store ‸ similar ‸ what he does for homeless we do for LGBTQ in Brevard County my business yes we give them water we give them food I let Elizabeth come in and sit um I don't know how many of you ‸ been to our store but it's very welcoming
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provide everything we can for them I mean we've given them shoes shirts I have a huge space in my heart for homeless people just like him we all have stories okay my dad died when I was 16 we were you know but where my home is concerned and what we have seen and I'm not blaming it on Matthew's Hope at all I love what they do we do the same thing as what we can do in our store
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But ‸ we have seen an increase in crime. You know, we
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down the street once again I'm not blaming Matthew's Hope I'm just putting it out there that what they talk about as a residential, it's a two-year program you have to ‸ have a full-time job. Those aren't the same people that they're also talking about living in a tent. okay so I agree they should be there they we should all as citizens as Christians whatever your belief is be helping our community. But they're talking about two different things. They're
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I I came from a youth pastor and we helped just like he said. We would have them living in our house in our and sharing bedrooms and taking care of things. But
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they're helping, but that's not what this board is supposed to decide right now. We're talking about making an exception and rezoning a small portion which we've made exceptions for them because of how they support our community and the benefits that they give. But
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it's a difference between what my business does where I live and do I think it would be beneficial to have said that's only six units that are talking about it is stated also that they could add more so yeah one minute at six units but really they could do more and what's to say we don't keep making exceptions for them I love what they do it has nothing to do with being against what they do and I don't think a lot of these people are saying Matthew's
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see what it's done what the homeless and there has to be another
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‸ Gina Faisley
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and a 35
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given my life left my career to give to the poor and the needy and the hardest parts of the world so but I'm not going to tell you my long story because today is a zoning meeting as I understand and so we're going to talk about the zoning so on the criteria you got this little sheet that the neighborhood had discussed and I just want to run through it as fast as I can I am trying to represent we brought over 130 people's opinion with us. So please give us the benefit of that. We have talked to every street that's shown on that map and more. Everyone and then about four down all the way to the condos and the condos are actually circulating it now. So, okay. ‸ Contrary to established land use pattern. Well, it is quite contrary. And and would it
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you look to all all sides of it, all sides of that proposed zoning are institutional property and commercial to the top. It does not even touch this other. And it's, say our
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is not what's actually existing there. It's single-family homes and on
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are logically drawn on D absolutely. We're cutting through a wall of a property and ‸ adding a little, this is the most illogically drawn zoning
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for zoning itself it's very very peculiar e contrary to the land the
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plan. Certainly because you just changed it on us, but the proposal is certainly contrary to the curtain current use of single-family homes in the neighborhood and F changing
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believe it's the opposite. And, in, ‸ two months, we're going to have a brand new facility open on,
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[03:29:24] Speaker 41
And that would be divided half of that. And the other half is for veterans and low income. and service people. So we think that with new life mission, they've just been, their fourth camp and they're,
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[03:29:40] Speaker 41
of young mothers into, careers and new homes. They are putting 60 new units, next and the housing for the homeless is, is doing great job so Anyway, we have a lot happening. Big news for cocoa on Michigan Avenue big news and I've got to get more time I'm representing a lot of people will it adversely affect the living conditions and public safety? Wow. We have heard a lot on that. so I won't try to get into that too much
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I'll allocate about another 20 seconds for you please that's all I've had I've had everybody else go to three minutes
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I got
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not going to get into that but I personally had myself while I
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fishing seeing two people having sex right there at the river one 10 feet outside my kitchen window I've called in public nudity he didn't say that but
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the lady pulled her pants down on front of his house. Robbery, theft,
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harassment, squatting, break-ins, drugs. We brought Mama to hospice. They broke into that house there. They lived
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Sorry,
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We believe in you. We actually believe in Matthew's Hope. We want them to work. We want them to win. We want this to happen. We have hope with Matthew's Hope for change. We really do. I
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All of the talk of what they do, wonderful. Amen.
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[03:31:18] Speaker 41 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
‸ We're talking about zoning and a very peculiar zoning that will adversely affect as a realtor. I wanted to tell you the studies about affecting property values. You can ask me a question about this if you'd like, but ‸ there are many studies that have been adversely going back and forth. And the latest one, they've been arguing about this for 10 years, September of 2019, the Independent Budget Office published a study on the impact of homeless shelters, and they said that proximity does negatively affect pricing on houses.
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I'm
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Okay. But like I say,
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I understand that. But to be respectful to everybody.
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I'm
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zoning changes, but we add that we will hope together with them. We will want change in life and success. I think they're doing an excellent job. I have no problem with that. We
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that sheet you got. We want them to continue. However,
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round, trying to squeeze a square peg in a round hole. It just is ‸ not appropriate. It's so bizarre, I can't even believe it's being considered.
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Thank you, Ms. Faison. I
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can't. Okay. Well,
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do we get questions?
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All right, board members. Do we have any more questions, comments, concerns?
[03:33:05] Speaker 8
I wanted to make one ‸ statement. I
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in this room have. Some have been maybe worse. We've all been through tragedy in our lives, and we all try and help others. I appreciate what Matthew's Hope does, and if their cameras are that good, they'll see that I dropped off some boots on their property, because they
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boots that I'm hoping one of your people will wear over your fence. So you have me on your camera, I hope. So we're not here to pass judgment on Matthew's Hope. They're doing great work. They're doing the Lord's work. We all understand that. We're
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I've been doing this. I was on the council from 2000 to 2004. I've
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I've never seen, basically, you're zoning one half of a wall different than the other half of the wall. This is unacceptable, the way this has been presented. We're not here to talk about Matthew's Hope. We're here to talk about zoning. And this zoning is atrocious, and I can't even believe that it's been presented this way. It's
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It's just absolutely ridiculous. So I appreciate what Scott and his people are doing. I've
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Mike knows. Me and my family have been through hell in a lot of different ways. So let's not judge people because they sin differently than we do,
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okay?
[03:35:13] Speaker 8
We're here for zoning.
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all I got to say. Anybody else have any further comments, questions, concerns? Wes?
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For either
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of
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you.
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just wanted to know, would these six domiciles
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units be considered a shelter?
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No, sir.
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Right, because it's a semi-permanent type of living arrangement?
[03:35:44] Speaker 33
They're small apartments.
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All right, yeah.
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to
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them being single women and children.
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I
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I recall why we are looking at this weird peg in a round hole. Maybe
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Right. Because there was deep and reasonable concern ‸ that you would sell this land and there would be a high rise there. So it sounds like you came back, ‸ worked with the city, and tried to find a reasonable resolution. I think all the things that the fellow citizens have said. It
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from a homeless state. It would be any great negative detriment to what it already is doing as Matthew's Hope. So for those who say they support Matthew's Hope, I've
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the contrary. ‸ But if Matthew's Hope was wishing to expand the amount of people
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that
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reached out to, I think a lot of things being said would be under greater consideration. Like if you want to expand your stuff, I think that a lot of these folks don't appreciate that because, and they have great concerns. I happen to actually live reasonably close to it also. But I don't think that six dwelling units that are meant to bring people out of a homeless state are going ‸ to negatively impact what's already happening. And whether we vote yes or no, will it change that you're doing to what everyone says, the Lord's work? That's all I have to say.
[03:37:30] Speaker 5
Mr.
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Todd, I wanted to clarify something that you had said earlier. It sounds like that the zoning that's being requested. How would you feel if this zoning request was made to be strictly in the building, located in the building alone, just for that wing and making it include the whole wing and not anything past the building? Would you feel more comfortable?
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No,
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Well,
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[03:38:29] Speaker 10
‸ It brings us to a caveat of what it is that we're doing and how we're looking at this. And and I find myself in an hour of frustration, and I'll be quite honest, because I i started this with a great momentum and zeal. and And the reason why I started with such momentum and zeal, because I'm not going to get into the personal pieces of it, is because what happened and what has happened historically, we go back to when they first presented to this board. There were immediate and hard concerns that that were that were put in place to protect all of us. And if we look at how we voted then, that speaks to why we're in the position we're in now. Here it is. Let me speak to my fellow citizens. We had an option of how to zone this piece of property. If
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chosen the latter option to zone it, we would be in a far worse situation than we are in today. So
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this evening. We're trying to make provisions that speak to someone that rightfully has possession of land and what they intend to do with their land, the same rightful possession that each one of us have that on our own individual pieces of land. That is the truth. So I'm ready to now move it to a vote.
[03:39:47] Speaker 1
As long as there are no more comments, questions, or concerns, I am more than willing to hear a motion.
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[03:40:01] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
Chair, I move that we um move forward with um this particular... I
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Recommend that we go ahead
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[03:40:18] Speaker 10
Okay. 755. There we go. 23-755. I move that we move this and carry this uh for a vote.
[03:40:31] Speaker 1
Okay. But do you want it do you want it to for approval as presented by staff?
[03:40:37] Speaker 10
I want it for approval as presented by staff.
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in favor to carry 23-755 towards approval for the city council as presented by staff, say aye aye. Aye. All opposed, please say nay. Nay. Nay. Very
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sir. Roll call. chair
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Board Member Anderson.
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Nay. Board
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Member Chabot.
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Nay. Board
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Member Park.
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Aye.
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Board Member Wheeler.
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Aye.
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‸ Board Member Greenwood.
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Motion is recommended for City Council. board
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show up to the city council
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board
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no
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item
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mr.
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get on the phone for this
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okay
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uh
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camping
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teleconferencing please enter a participant code then press pound
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I could walk past
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Sorry,
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that participant code is invalid. Please try again. Please enter a participant code, then press pound.
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hello
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[03:43:20] Speaker 35
here all
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right thank you the item is starting ‸ just a moment
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thank you posting
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All
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Can
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[03:44:12] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yes, sir. Mr. Painter, we'll let you know when ‸ it's time for your comments.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
[03:44:29] Speaker 36
I'd say good evening, but it's more like good night now. Mr. Painter, would you mind muting yourself while I give the presentation?
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All
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right, so this is advertising
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and science.
[03:44:44] Speaker 36
All right. All righty, here we go. Okay, there we go. All righty. Ordinance 24-2023 advertising signs, flagpole. The
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owner of the property, together are requesting the Planning and Zoning Board to consider an amendment of the general regulations, advertising and signs, section 3-23 regarding flags. The applicant's flagpole contractor, Mr. Painter, who is on the line, has submitted a permit for a 130-foot flagpole with a 40-foot by 80-foot flag. Camping World has contracted with Mr. Painter and his company to provide flags to and flagpoles to all of their properties across the country. According to the City of Cocoa regulations, the maximum flagpole height is 32 feet, with a flag height no larger than 25% of the flagpole height. City
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flags of this size in specifically designated locations at major intersections adjacent to I-95.
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Need.
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within densely populated residential and commercial areas in an effort to limit visually cluttering and competing flag and advertising signs. Large, sparsely populated commercial areas adjacent to the interstate ‸ provide an opportunity for large flags without the concern of overburdening the senses with an overabundance of visual distraction.
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Justification. The proposed ordinance
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seeks to allow erection of a large-scale flag and flagpole within certain specifically designated areas and zoning districts adjacent to major intersections with I-95. The City seeks to allow this flag and flagpole and future others to encourage business growth through the subtle advertising and target marketing of this and other businesses' primary customer base. The
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to commercial zoning districts is designed to encourage cooperation with all businesses who are within the designated area and wish to create a brand identity through the display of a large format flag. In
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community, expands the potential for growth and business retention, and facilitates a growing economic base within the City of Cocoa. I'll read you the
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Camping World representative has stated that they intend to only fly the American flag. However, the board is cautioned that the City may not place content restrictions, i.e. telling Camping World or other eligible property owners what they can and cannot fly on their flagpole. Let me see, I've lost my place. In the proposed ordinance. Accordingly, the other property owners eligible to install an oversized flag may choose a flag with other message or content under the proposed ordinance and are limited only by the size limitations including in the proposed ordinance. The
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Staff recommendation. Staff
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recommendation. Following
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staff analysis, the proposed ordinance 24-2023 is recommended to the Planning and Zoning Board. If approved, the proposed ordinance will impact commercial businesses within 1500 feet of an eye of the I-95 intersections through the patriotic display of a large format flag and flagpole. The proposed ordinance will not negatively impact existing neighborhoods and will help to increase the retention of existing ‸ businesses within the City of Cocoa with this non-monetary economic incentive. It is in it is
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establish and maintain a stable and growing economic base through strategic incentive programs and diversification of the economy. Staff recommends that the Planning and Zoning Board recommend approval of an ordinance 24-2023 as presented.
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he's the applicant on the line if you'd like to have any questions for him.
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Does the board have any questions concerns? I do
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for staff. Okay, Alex. I'm trying
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conflict is if we approve this, they can put any kind of flag they want up there. Correct? That
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is correct.
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Okay. Also, uh existingly, the current guidelines are to limit ‸ visually cluttering and competing flag and advertising signs um i
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kind of I feel that we're opening up a potential can of worms here because even though we're talking about a flag right now, you're talking also is including uh flags and ‸ signs. Is the signs also going to be altered?
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No, the ordinance is specifically and only identified for flags and flagpoles.
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Okay, because it says here advertising and signs. That's what confused me. I see. all
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but it will not include the signs then. It's strictly flagged
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just Just flags, which is a type of sign, right? but But it is only flags that would be affected.
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no other questions. Thank you. I got a question. The flagpole with the American flag, that's patriotic. Okay. Okay. And as a veteran to fly another flag. I think there's an alternative motive here is for advertising and ‸ American flag is not to advertise a business.
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It's American flag is put is to symbolize what America is all about. And um I drive up and i
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all over. And I personally have
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a problem with them using the American flag as advertising. Drawing people to your business with ‸ American flag. I have a problem with that. and I also have a problem. They
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I have a problem with that.
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What? Could you repeat that, please?
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That's not ‸ They
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‸ refuse to do with
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this. all right realize
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that, but I'd like to hear what he said. Can you
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repeat it, please? He has a personal issue with something they've done in the past. They?
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they supported the kneeling yes the American flag. Is that what you said, sir? Yes, but like I said, it doesn't have anything to do with... I realized that. I wanted to... I didn't want to ‸ I retract what I
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said. I'm sorry? I retract what I said. Any other comments,
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questions, concerns? Chair, in in the presentation that was made by staff, we go back one slide. I just... I'm just seeking to gather some ‸ level of clarification
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this. In the uh asterisk section, once we get down to the the latter portion of the bulleted section, it says accordingly, of the property on a vegetable installed ‸ oversized flag may choose a flag with other message or content on this proposed ordinance are
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by the size limitation, including this proposed ordinance. So what is... Is it not a way? Because what we have done and what is existing is a huge loophole. um
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say, ‸ okay, I'm gonna ‸ fly American flag. um to To go back to what Mr. Chabot was speaking about, what I have personally seen, because that's what that's where i i I do a hard pause. uh Camping World also flies a very nice, very large Camping World flag. um That's at their discretion because now they have they have now skipped over
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whatever um ‸ yes ordinance that
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terms of the installation of what it is that they're looking to do. So is there a way? um Once again, I'm not
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at it from from a much grandiose perspective. um Marketing advertising is just
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gateway could use any type of improvement, in my own personal
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I don't want to see a Camping World flag when I'm coming down 95 and all I see coming into
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the Camping World representative that has agreed that this Camping World will only fly the American flag. They will not fly any other flag. But to your point,
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Club from erecting the same thing and flying ‸ Sam's Club flag. so
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flags at their locations, as we've already witnessed, um from their previous activities. So what is to prohibit them from now erecting one in all three of their now locations that they have right there in in the
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we go. So you got Cadillacs, you got Nissans,
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three of them.
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staff. um Is this something that that flagpoles, can that be addressed through the variance process as opposed to an ordinance? Good question That way it would be handled on a one
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variance is is very difficult to meet. and includes that there's something unusual about the shape or topography of the property, something like that. So it would be very difficult for anyone to meet the criteria for a variance um for a flag um
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‸ this kind of a poll is considered not a building. It's part of advertisement, I guess. So, okay.
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there anything that's... why Why can't we not limit this specific ordinance to
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to fly only the American flag and the state flag. And so
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could not be as tailored. That's it.
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we...
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speech that is protected by the first amendment and um based on uh really fairly recent um u.s supreme court cases that have come out, um we are prohibited from uh regulating based on the content of the sign. We have to have content neutral regulations. And so that's why we have focused on dealing with the size. um We're talking about dimensions rather than the content. So we can't make distinctions based on the type of flag that they would like to to fly. Yeah, I appreciate i appreciate the clarity. yeah That's it. because
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that's why yeah because Only because recently they approved that HOA state law, right? You can't fly you know, an HOA cannot stop you from flying a flag as long as ‸ the American flag and I think the state flag underneath it. That's the
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same thing. it's It's under the same guise because
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but then they can't put any other flags on there. That's what the law says. It's only the
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you for clarifying for me. I got it. an
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HOA is a private organization, right? So, I mean, the city is subject to different standards. um But that's why the ordinance is written as
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proposed. I
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got you. Thank you very much.
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I wanted to address your concern about maybe mark
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or one of the other surrounding businesses suddenly flying a flag. um It is specifically called out in the ordinance that further no
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flagpole and no more than one flag
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be flown at a time on the pole. Now from
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of get that in your mind, you can kind of draw around where you can, and there
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Camping World having this location, that doesn't
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allow Mike
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fly anything. Anything
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bigger but ‸ then what they already have. If anybody's
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watching this and he puts it up on his, on his entrance on a 520,
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uh camping world. I've seen some of their flag poles and they don't use the proper front flag etiquette and lower
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ordered to by the government. So I have a problem with that. That's all I'm going to say. i'm sorry
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Am I allowed to say anything or no? I hate to be rude.
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this is the This is the requester. uh Yes, sir. Go ahead.
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So just to be very clear, um I'll touch on three things. um We're only going to fly, if approved, obviously, the
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that they shot, and that was in Spokane, Washington. We
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I'm third
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maker. My grandparents started Valley Forge Flag Company. um We don't even make those flags. We haven't made those flags in, I'm going to say, 10 years at least. um And as far as half staff, once we get the notification, we immediately send it to the GM. We use what's known as an internal halyard flagpole, which is an easy to operate with a hand crank, and they can lower it to half staff. Now, something I was going to touch on, which is not relevant to this, but an
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the Flag Act of 2001. And what that does is it does not let an HOA dictate the size of a flagpole. They only can dictate the size of the flag, just so you know. That's all I want to tell you. I've ‸ been doing this a long time so um but no we only want to do the u.s flags we
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right
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And you're gonna ‸ create a heck of a landmark, and a lot of people are gonna ‸ love it. I promise. that's
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what i'm saying so
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thank you very much for listening. Thank
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you, sir.
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okay All
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right. Alex, I believe you had a motion. I don't think we have any further questions, comments,
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concerns. My motion, because it's too complicated, and there is legalities involved. it
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slide Is it to deny? To deny, ‸ yes.
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Slippery slope. So you're recommending this to disproval of proposed ordinance. Now it
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Do I have a second? I'll
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24-2023. Say aye. Aye. All opposed? Nay. Wow.
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uh miss laurie if you would do a roll call for the ayes and nays.
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Yes, sir. Chair Simpson.
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Yes. Okay. You know, it's hard to tell when somebody says yay or nay. ‸ If somebody approves something, I really, I think it's better to say yes. I, I confused the two. No,
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‸ I'll. ‸ This is
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to not approve. Correct. This
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is to, this is to not approve. To send a non-correct Yeah.
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And you're a nay.
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deny. Correct? Yes. Okay. That's what I want to do.
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The motion to not approve. The ordinance. Correct.
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is who no.
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‸ Board member
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for Alex's disapproval for the proposed ordinance, meaning we, you are recommending to council to not approve. Yes. Ordinance 24-20-23
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just say something to the applicant,
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which would be, it's not what he wants to do. It's actually the ordinance that I have a problem with. ‸ Yeah.
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Yeah. I agree. That's what this is all about. So
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if
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‸ take that back, ‸ that's what it is. And it's
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best you could. oh it's business. Yeah. that's. So it's the ordinance that's the that's the issue, not so much the uh wish to show patriotism. Thank you.
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Item E, 23-757. Thank you for your time, sir.
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moving
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forward. Yes,
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ma'am.
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All right, this ordinance is 25
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Board consider an amendment of Appendix A, Zoning, Article 13, Supplementary District Regulations of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of coco
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add a new Section 33, kava
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kratom
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set in place distance requirements between establishments selling kava
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and or kratom
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and schools, religious institutions, public parks, and playgrounds. Prior to this ordinance, a notice a noticeable increase of retail outlets selling kava
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kratom
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been applying for business licenses
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a product of for off-premise consumption. However, recently, kava
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kratom
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have been requesting business tax receipts for kava
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and other outlets where the kava
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kratom
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served in a coffee shop or bar atmosphere for immediate on-premise consumption. kava
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miss
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known as intoxicating pepper, is a shrub native to the South Pacific Islands. kava
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dried kava
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powder and brewed into a tea like drink. kava
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to the beverage beverages euphoric effects. In 2002, the FDA issued an advisory alerting consumers and health care providers to the potential risk of liver related injuries associated with the use of kava
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cases of liver damage, hepatitis and cirrhosis, and liver failure have been associated with commercial extract preparations of kava
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of kava
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produce side effects such as decreased coordination and fatigue. kava
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is not a controlled substance in the United States. However, due to concerns of liver toxicity, kava is subject to regulatory controls in many countries, including Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Malaysia, Norway, Poland, Singapore, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. kratom
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to the DEA, consumption of kratom leaves leaves produces stimulant effects in low doses, analgesic and euphoric effects at mid-level doses, and depressive effects at high doses. According to the Mayo Clinic, kratom is a highly addictive substance. Studies have shown that people who consume kratom for over six months experience withdrawal symptoms similar similar to those experienced during opioid withdrawal, and overdose is possible on kratom Medical literature has shown that not only is kratom addictive, kratom use is associated with a clear set of effects and side effects ‸ ranging from dry mouth and insomnia to hallucinations, delusions, confusion, and withdrawal symptoms, including symptoms of limb spasticity, hostility, aggression, and emotional instability. The DEA has listed kratom as a drug of chemical concern, and kratom is regulated as a controlled substance in Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar, where the plant is a native species. Ordinance
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cover beverages and any form of kratom and gathering places where the youth of the city congregate. Because the of the new and changing cultural acceptance of kava and kratom and the lack of current ordinances of the city addressing these substances, in
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as controlled substances, Ordinance 25, 2023 is proposed to limit the
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have limited exposure to kava beverages and kratom products. in recognition the dangers In recognizing the dangers kratom
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poses to youth, the Florida legislature has codified Florida statute listed here, the Florida kratom
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Protection Act, which makes it unlawful to sell, deliver, barter, furnish, or give directly or indirectly ‸ any kratom
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to a person under 21 years of age. So in summary, the City desires to ensure that the youth of the City of Cocoa are limited in their exposure to kava
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kratom
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to the evolving culture surrounding these potentially harmful and addictive drugs, physical
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be put in place to limit youth exposure to these substances. Following staff analysis, the proposed ordinance attached as Exhibit A, Ordinance 25 2023 is recommended to the Planning and Zoning Board. If approved, the proposed ordinance will not impact establishments selling cover
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off or on-premise consumption outside of a 500 foot exclusion zone around a school, church, public park, or playground as measured from the nearest edge of ‸ the property boundary. The proposed ordinance will
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mosques, and synagogues, public parks, and playgrounds exist within the fabric of existing neighborhoods. Therefore, limiting access to kratom
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objectives of the comprehensive plan objective 1.1.5 neighborhood protection The
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Staff recommends that the Planning and Zoning Board recommend approval of Ordinance
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I have a question for staff.
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any of the current Kava
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licenses, are they currently within the 500 feet zones? Do we know?
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I would say yes. We have identified I believe seven places that are selling this. Now this is not all of them. We just did a quick search. And we're putting them into our GIS system. In addition, the code enforcement gentlemen are notating the ones that they find out there. And we will add those also to the GIS and at that point we'll have a picture of where they are. And then we can overlay the 500 foot and see. But yes, there will be ‸ businesses that are non-conforming uses pending
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approval. Will those businesses be grandfathered in or will they be asked to move or will they have their businesses removed from selling the beverages and Kratom? Or have we ‸ established that? ‸ Exactly.
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They will be allowed to continue to sell them because they were in existence before the law, before the ordinance. Now if they choose, if they go out of business or something, we will not allow a new business to come in.
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Just to clarify that, you mentioned early in the presentation about I'm not familiar with this, but they are doing and selling it for offsite let's say and they are within this 500 and then they decide to do onsite. This will impact them. Is that correct?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Do they have to do they have to renew? they have to renew the business, correct?
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ETRs have to be renewed annually. Yes.
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For this as well, right?
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For any business, yes.
[04:16:02] Speaker 1
Okay. Do we have a special licensing for
[04:16:08] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
No
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business license. Well, I know
[04:16:11] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that but I was because of the substance.
[04:16:14] Speaker 4
No, there are no special state licenses for
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this
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substance.
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[04:16:23] Speaker 1
I really don't like these two substances, so
[04:16:26] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
I do have a question for staff and in regards to this. I'm just trying to get a greater level of clarification, and so I'm making it more personal so I do see that there has been the recent addition of one of these establishments here on Fisk Boulevard For those that know, I
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[04:16:52] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
so I'm when I read this I'm trying to understand the impact of what it has towards that function of business in regards to these two caveat pieces. a church which is ‸ within 500 feet, which you know I'm
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[04:17:12] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
the street. so I know I'm going to drive away from that so I'm yeah well I'll get my driver and my three would. but anyway the secondary to that, it says that was mentioned here is ‸ where you
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[04:17:29] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice
the city of Cocoa will congregate so naturally I think that would fall within those two segments. so we're saying this is not going to do anything for let's just say that establishment that may be in the process of application because this will probably not actually take place for some time to come. ‸ correct?
[04:18:00] Speaker 30
yeah that's correct I mean they they had already been in the process of applying for their various permits prior to this ordinance going into effect
[04:18:16] Speaker 1
so
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[04:18:17] Speaker 1
go ahead and let's get it passed and then Mayor
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[04:18:26] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I make a motion? I
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[04:18:28] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
just have a quick question mostly of personal knowledge. What is the current restriction on distance for alcohol
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is
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referenced here so what's the I
[04:18:36] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
believe it's 500 feet it's the same
[04:18:37] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it doesn't say it so I just wanted to know I
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[04:18:46] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
300 okay okay well I'm glad we're outside ‸ that's good there
[04:18:49] Speaker 30
I'm sorry There are various other things that we have separation or distancing requirements for in the code for example medical marijuana dispensing facilities that's 500 feet so there are others that use this distance that's being proposed here yeah
[04:19:08] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
One last personal knowledge, if
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does
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capacity, but
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[04:19:18] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
underage people? through the through the I'm telling you because I have a family member my son and I know many people like him who easily access this stuff. thank God not create them yet right but shops within the city sell it right and
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[04:19:40] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice
well maybe not because I didn't always either But at least they had a fine levied upon them when that happened so I just would like to see the city push forward on ‸ if they can I know there's all types of stuff I don't understand legally but to push forward some type of effort that would find or limit the want of a business owner to sell to an underage person.
[04:20:03] Speaker 30
I'm not sure that I know the answer to that at the moment but I can look into that as was noted just this past year is when the legislature adopted the statute about Kratom that it can't be sold to individuals under 21
[04:20:24] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
and I'm actually focusing more on marijuana
[04:20:27] Speaker 30 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
all
[04:20:27] Speaker 7
right That's the more pressing thing in my neighborhoods and stuff like that with my family so it's personal but you know three
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[04:20:38] Speaker 7
so just if there's anything the city could do, I think it would benefit all the citizens like this like this ordinance
[04:20:46] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Wesley thank you I might as well add something to the point you're making If there's a business that wants to serve liquor and they're in a questionable distance they can go to the city and ask for a variance and they can be approved for it Did you know that? ‸ okay just thought I'd throw that in there to make you even more concerned I'm up for a motion I'd like to make a motion
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[04:21:14] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice
ahead I recommend approval of ordinance 25-2023 as presented by staff
[04:21:21] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
do I have a second second go for it ‸ please go ahead I have a ‸ second that motion alrighty all right all in favor of recommending approval for 25-2023 say aye aye do I hear any opposed none heard awesome okay and F ordinance
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1030
[04:21:52] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice
okay this is a housekeeping ordinance okay ordinance
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applicant the
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[04:22:07] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice
the planning and zoning board consider an amendment to the appendix a article 14 section 2 setting the date of the planning and zoning board meeting PNC
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were moved to accommodate a change in the city council board meeting date the existing ordinance
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that
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be held the second Wednesday of each month ordinance 26-2023
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[04:22:33] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice
second Wednesday of the month and instructs that once a month regular meetings scheduled will be adopted by
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[04:22:40] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice
special meetings to be held as necessary the ordinance
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[04:22:51] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice
sorry ordinance 20-2003 July 22nd 2003 set in place the schedule of
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[04:22:59] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
for the second Wednesday of the month and removed the provision for the time and place of the meeting to be prescribed by the board staff recommends that the planning and zoning board recommend approval of ordinance 26-2023 as presented
[04:23:17] Speaker 1
okay and it's being presented as that it would just be that a once a month regular meeting schedule be adopted
[04:23:26] Speaker 36 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that's correct
[04:23:27] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
instead of having it on the first Wednesday of every month
[04:23:30] Speaker 36
that's correct And it will be up to the discretion of the of
[04:23:33] Speaker 1
the board
[04:23:33] Speaker 36
chairperson and vice chairperson
[04:23:35] Speaker 7
motion to approve as recommended
[04:23:37] Speaker 1
second okay all in favor say aye aye aye do I have any opposed no
[04:23:44] Speaker 8
okay
[04:23:51] Speaker 1
all right I believe the uh ordinance
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[04:24:01] Speaker 37 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Anderson I
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Anderson was the name
[04:24:08] Speaker 2
Mr.
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[04:24:13] Speaker 1
was the name so yes recommendation for approval passes for ordinance 26
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[04:24:22] Speaker 1
2023 thank you um I don't see anything here for tree board unless Alex can keep it down to three minutes
[04:24:31] Speaker 34 (introduced as “Mark Fadley” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
no
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[04:24:33] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
not the one that got us to this late at night but no I don't have anything uh there about the tree board but there's one thing I'd like to see and I hope that it's in the planning stages it's great the renovations it looks good what they're doing on 520 there's a lot of grass area and I'm hoping to see something like a tree in those areas rather than just grass
[04:24:55] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
bushes or something
[04:24:56] Speaker 5
something but trees
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[04:24:59] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I have uh no other business unless anybody wants to make further comment question complaints about our board no
[04:25:09] Speaker 7
thank you to staff thank you to everyone appreciate you
[04:25:11] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
yeah you all really worked it was beautifully done that was that was tough work gotta
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you
[04:25:18] Speaker 1
I have here next scheduled meeting is for the first Wednesday of January January
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at
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[04:25:29] Speaker 1
2023 and uh at
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[04:25:36] Speaker 1
my seat will be in question so come with your a-games and we
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[04:25:43] Speaker 1
um I have nothing else thank you all for bearing with me and our agitated guests so
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[04:25:54] Speaker 1
would love to hear a motion to adjourn so moved
[04:25:56] Speaker 7
second
[04:25:58] Speaker 1
awesome all in favor say aye
[04:26:00] Speaker 7
aye yes
[04:26:03] Speaker 1
goodnight
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posting
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you.

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