Cocoa CRA

Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting

Date: 2025-01-06
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #153

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What the City's record shows

Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-02-03, pp. 6–12; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2025-02-03, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to approve the Minutes for the Regular Meeting of January 6, 2025, as written”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-03-03 agenda packet (1742_Cocoa_CRA_Regular_Meeting_Agenda_03_03_2025_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 6–10).

Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (1705_Cocoa_CRA_Regular_Meeting_Agenda_02_03_2025_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 6–12). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Janne Etz, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Candace Rogers
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (Agency Attorney), Ryan Browne (Recording Secretary)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, ETZ, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ROGERS (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (4)

to approve the Agenda for the Regular Meeting of January 6, 2025, as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by ETZ); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 6–12
to approve the motion (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by ETZ); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 6–12
to approve the motion (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Patricia Weeks); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 6–12
to adjourn the meeting (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by ROGERS); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS; nays: none — the draft minutes, packet pp. 6–12

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 1705_Cocoa_CRA_Regular_Meeting_Agenda_02_03_2025_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-02-03 meeting, packet pp. 6–12; lines 154–467 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

Read the draft minutes

MINUTES DRAFT
COCOA CRA
January 6, 2025

The Regular Meeting of the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency was held on
January 6, 2025, at City Hall, 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, FL, as publicly noticed.

I. CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson BLAKE called the meeting to order at 6:01 pm.

INVOCATION: Agency Member HEARN led the assembly in the Invocation.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Agency Member ROGERS led the assembly in the
Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

ROLL CALL:
Michael C. Blake Chairperson
Patricia Weeks Vice Chairperson
Janne Etz Agency Member
Alex Goins Agency Member
Lavander Hearn Agency Member
Lorraine Koss Agency Member
Candace Rogers Agency Member
Anthony Garganese Agency Attorney
Ryan Browne Recording Secretary

PRESENT:
Michael C. Blake Chairperson
Patricia Weeks Vice Chairperson
Janne Etz Agency Member
Alex Goins Agency Member
Lavander Hearn Agency Member
Lorraine Koss Agency Member
Candace Rogers Agency Member
Anthony Garganese Agency Attorney – via phone
Ryan Browne Recording Secretary

ABSENT:

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STAFF PRESENT:
Community Services Director NEUTERMAN and City Manager WHITTEN.

II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:

AGENDA: Regular Meeting held on January 6, 2025, either as written, or with amendments.
*MOTION by Vice Chairperson WEEKS; SECONDED by Agency Member ETZ to
approve the Agenda for the Regular Meeting of January 6, 2025, as written.

AYES: BLAKE, WEEKS, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)

III. DELEGATIONS:
1. Alex Greenwood
i. Exhibit A – handout. Search results showing old information online. We
need to do damage control to counteract these negative stories. Ordinances
not addressing the issues, including noise ordinance.
ii. Code Enforcement. Waste Management. Debris issues.
1. Chairperson BLAKE has addressed these issues with Waste
Management.
2. Agency Member GOINS asked what Mr. Greenwood’s primary
concern is? Mr. Greenwood replied that security and enforcement of
existing rules is his primary concern. He wants the homeless
controlled. The shoplifters stopped. The noise ordinance enforced.
People need to be able to call a Security officer, rather than the Police
Department. He believes this would work better than community
policing by police – and cheaper. He wants us to be proactive in
cleaning up the Village to allow it to excel to the next level - proactive
before these big projects come online. Agency Member GOINS
pushed back, saying what if Security backfires? Mr. Greenwood said
he still believes that a more ‘casual’ Security presence would help.
3. Agency Member GOINS said he wanted to hear from the business
owners’ perspective and asked Ms. Pam Shaia, President of the Board
of the Historic Cocoa Village Main Street to come forward to speak on
this issue.
4. Ms. Pam Shaia came up to give the business owners’ viewpoint. She
relayed the story of a shoplifter who shoplifted from three stores in the
Village because the first storeowner would not report the woman –
because she said that the Police wouldn’t do anything anyway. She

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said that Security in Downtown Historic Melbourne is visible and
walking around. Helping to make it feel comfortable, without being
overbearing. There are cameras all over. She did mention that we
could use better lighting. Another issue is restrooms, including
afterhours. They are now gated and locks are coming. The culprits
are sometimes homeless, sometimes not. We appreciate the work that
the CRA and City do to help. We need to be pro-active.
5. Chairperson BLAKE said that he visits weekly and receives 90%
positive feedback. He hears complaints from people who live outside
of the Village. He reminded everyone to be sure to maintain calm and
not misperceive the issues.
6. Agency Member KOSS said that she also visits weekly, also getting
very positive feedback. She also receives some complaints, but still,
most have an overall positive experience.

IV. PRESENTATIONS: Vice Chairperson WEEKS said that she had a presentation. She
said that next week is Chairperson BLAKE’s birthday. She led those assembled in
singing happy birthday to Chairperson BLAKE. He thanked those assembled.

V. ACTION ITEMS:
1. Request Agency approval of a Budget Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF
# 25-019-A, in the amount of $89,319, to pay back the over-payment of FY25 TIF –
Projections to match-up with FY25 TIF – Actuals.
i. Introduction. Director NEUTERMAN. Every year in November the
projections in budget season, become actual payments to the County.
ii. Discussion. Chairperson BLAKE asked the City Manager if he saw any
issues? Mr. WHITTEN responded that he saw no issues. He went on to
explain that this is just what in budget parlance is called “truing-up” – we
make an educated guess at budget season, this is the actual vs. budgeted.
iii. Vote.

*MOTION by Chairperson BLAKE; SECONDED by Agency Member ETZ to
approve the motion.
AYES: BLAKE, WEEKS, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)

2. Request Agency approval of a 60-Day Extension to March 3, 2025, in order to
continue the negotiations of the Redevelopment Agreement for 603 Brevard Avenue
between 360 Hospitality Group, LLC and the Cocoa CRA, represented by the City
Manager and the CRA Attorney.
i. Introduction. Chairperson BLAKE: believes in this deal. Director
NEUTERMAN. In process meeting regularly; some delay for holidays.

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Development and legal team to negotiate the Redevelopment Agreement.
Some key points to finalize and bring Redevelopment Agreement at the
March Meeting.

ii. Discussion.
1. Agency Member ROGERS asked if the key parameters were being
met and Director NEUTERMAN replied that, yes, it is on-track with
the agreement. For example, parameters could include: stormwater
reviews, parking reviews, number of keys for rooms, parking structure,
what lots will be vacated for parking.
2. Agency Member ETZ asked if Staff felt like progress was being made.
Do you feel like we are getting there? Manager WHITTEN responded
that the Redevelopment Agreement is a timeline of Deliverables that
the developer will have to met. Director NEUTERMAN gave you
examples. The Redevelopment Agreement that says here are the
phases of the project, we will get, six months, example, phase two –
hotel franchise, etc. Essentially, the outline of the legally agreed upon
terms. You will know exactly the project deliverables at that time.
Marketing Study, Economic Feasibility, Parking Study, Vacating
Streets, Stormwater, the ask for parking – deal points, process
deliverables, more conceptual renderings. Process Map of
Deliverables is what the Redevelopment Agreement is. Twice a
month meetings, they have been having in order to get on the same
page. The Attorney is working on key points. If we are having this
same conversation in March that would be an indicator.
3. Chairperson WEEKS said that a developer would like to start ASAP.
So, it is good to give the time to get this done.
4. Agency Member GOINS said that with all of the many layers that
government needs to build – which is why we have so few applicants –
it is a good sign that they are still at the table with us. He said that he
is willing to move forward, give the process a chance to work through.
He reminded the Board that Staff knows if this were a bad deal, they
would alert us.
iii. Vote.

*MOTION by Agency Member GOINS; SECONDED by Vice Chairperson WEEKS
to approve the motion.
AYES: BLAKE, WEEKS, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)

VI. ATTORNEY REPORT: None.

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VII. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS:

1. Director NEUTERMAN gave the following Staff Report:
i. Inspire.
1. Draft Plan in Staff review now. Comes to Board next. (bringing to
you in the next two months; with time to read.) Then goes to P&Z,
and finally to Council. May or June hope to have the new CRA Plan,
perfect for budget planning.
ii. Civic Clerk. Meeting Management Software.
1. New system.
2. Troubleshooting, any issues - submit to City Clerk.
3. Good program, we will roll out new features as everyone adjusts to the
new program.
iii. Housekeeping.
1. Holiday.
• Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day (Mon. Jan. 20)
2. Chairperson BLAKE asked about the progress of the Lee Wenner Park Parking Lot
Project. Director NEUTERMAN replied that construction is on hold for the next two
months due to gas and electrical lines that must be run through. Manager WHITTEN
said that we allowed them to run their lines. Two months of delay from electric and
gas. But, since we were about six months ahead of schedule, it is still not that much
of a delay. Director NEUTERMAN said that Staff anticipates being on track for July
4th.
3. Agency Member KOSS asked about the architectural guidelines study, which she
recalls has been written, just never incorporated. She wants this tool available to
build on and incorporate the results of the study. Manager WHITTEN said that the
process for that had been started but not finished. Some of those guidelines are being
used. He said that he would look into trying to get final product delivery on this
study.
4. Agency Member GOINS asked about the Oleander West parking lot improvements
project. Director NEUTERMAN responded that Staff would bring back to the
February agenda – parking systems, geogrids, Heart of Cocoa revision process, one
large project, defined parking spaces. Proposal for Design in February.
5. Agency Member HEARN asked about the boat slips that got destroyed. Manager
WHITTEN responded that the City is still working with FEMA to recover monies.
He also said that he has discussed this issue with the Finance Director, BOWMAN
trying to recover funds from Ian and Michael, four five years ago; need outside
experts. Council decision to get FEMA dollars. Agency Member HEARN said that
he had visited Titusville, where a breaker wall to protect is being worked on.
Manager WHITTEN responded that we are looking into funding sources. Wave
attenuators, etc. looking into those. We have a FIND grant currently out, find best
practices. We are in year two of that two-year project.

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6. Agency Member ROGERS asked about ordinances and enforcement. She wants to
know what is the goal of what we want to have happen? She believes that we need to
revisit not keeping old ordinances, instead replacing them with new, updated ones.
She gave the example of cars sitting in the Oleander Lot for over a year.
Unacceptable. She believes that we need Workshops to update these rules. She
wants Security and CPTED (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design),
territory to monitor; directing and informing people. People feel unsafe being
panhandled going to a restaurant. She would love to see an “Ambassador” program.
She submitted a number of items in her budget priorities submission. It addresses a
lot of things along the waterfront, almost have grants, such as Safe Waterfronts. She
wants to review those priorities. She wants to discuss and see what money is out
there. Try to work with Merritt Island, share costs with them for a Patrol Boat.
Director NEUTERMAN replied that we will have to look at the calendar and get back
to you about a workshop. Agency Member ROGERS asked what are we planting
back at Lee Wenner Park? Manager WHITTEN responded that we will bring back
the landscape plan for Lee Wenner Park.
7. Chairperson BLAKE stated, point well taken. Boats, contain hazardous fuels. What
will it take to move these boats? They are found all over. Environmental issue.
Barge to remove, FDEP (Florida Department of Environmental Protection) rules
followed. Derelict boat. Agency Member ROGERS replied that we need a
Harbormaster. Manager WHITTEN responded that he would forward to the Board a
note from Matt Culver at County for the process to remove derelict vessels, people
are allowed time to remove their boats as part of the process. He explains that the
state resources are strained due to the recent storms that hit the West Coast fo Florida
hard. Most resources are deployed there now. Agency Member ROGERS responded
that she appreciates that process. However, she said, referencing the Scenic Vista
Ordinance – we shouldn’t see an ordinance - we should be proactive, stop them from
getting into this situation in the first place. They should never have been allowed to
park at T-Dock. Manager WHITTEN responded that on Oct. 29, 2024 – all storm-
related boats had been reported to FWC (Fish, Wildlife, Conservation services)
reported them all. Countywide, insurance, they have to hire company. Manager
WHITTEN will send this process to Board.
8. Agency Member KOSS said that she would like to see more prevention. She said that
County approached her about the ALA (Anchoring Limitation Areas) – Merritt Island
is doing this already. The point is that it is a place to start and put signage. Manager
WHITTEN shared those files to Staff to share with the Board. Attorney has been
consulted. We will bring back something similar. Remember, whatever the solution,
it will take resources. Chairperson BLAKE asked are you willing to generate funds
to pay for these projects? Agency Member ROGERS responded that derelict boats
are gaining homeless, some are being bought and turned into B&Bs. So, to define
what we will allow, is important. We need to show we are taking control of our
territory. We need to turn them away. We need to enforce. Let’s put our boundaries
up.

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VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE:

Monday, February 3, 2025, at 6:00 pm in the Council Chambers located in Cocoa City
Hall, 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, Florida.

IX. ADJOURNMENT:

* MOTION by Vice Chairperson WEEKS; SECONDED by Agency Member
ROGERS, to adjourn the meeting.
AYES: BLAKE, WEEKS, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)

THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:21 PM.

________________________
Michael C. Blake, Chairperson

Respectfully Submitted by:

________________________________
Ryan Browne, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. CALL TO ORDER

1. Invocation
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Roll Call

II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES

1. Agenda: Cocoa CRA Regular Meeting of Monday, January 6, 2025. — 00:02:53

III. DELEGATIONS

IV. PRESENTATIONS

V. ACTION ITEMS

1. Request Agency approval of a Budget Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF# 25-019-A, in the amount of $89,319. Resolution No. CCRA-2024-250. — 00:25:03
2. Approve an extension to March 3, 2025 to continue the negotiations of the 603 Brevard Redevelopment Agreement between 360 Hospitality Group, LLC, and the Cocoa CRA, represented by the City Manager and CRA Attorney. — 00:27:41

VI. ATTORNEY’S REPORT

VII. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS

VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE

IX. ADJOURNMENT

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New Year.

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Are we ready to rock and roll?

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have a church meeting right after this.

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Okay. Good evening, everyone. Happy New Year, sir. Everyone, I'd

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agency member Rogers. Invocation will

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you ever want to please join me. Oh,

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Dear Heavenly Father, I'd

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to give thanks for allowing us to arrive here in beautiful downtown Cocoa this evening. Safe and sound. I'd like to thank you for watching over our citizens. I ask that you continue to watch over us as we go into this new year.

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And in Jesus' name I

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States of America

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to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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‸ Yes. Mr. Recording Secretary. Sir, Mr. Brown,

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would you do roll call for us, please, sir? All right. Chairperson Blake. Present, sir. Vice Chairperson Weeks. Here.

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And agency attorney Garganese.

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Here. Telephonically.

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All present and accounted for. Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much, Mr.

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Secretary Brown, sir. Chair will proceed on to item number 2-1.

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the 6th, 2025. What are the wishes of the agency?

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member Weeks. Second by

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All in favor of saying aye.

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Proceeding on to item number 3, delegations. I have one card in my possession. Mr. Greenwood, would you come to the podium, please? Yes,

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Yes, sir.

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Greetings, board chairman. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. We're ready to get started.

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but I wanted to make sure I did this also verbally for those that I haven't. There's a copy that I put in front of your seats there. I did not have enough. I'm not going to dwell on it, but I did also send pictures of it to your cell phones. And I'm working on something that I found out by the direction that the mayor had also discussed to get a hold of the Google search representatives.

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It's very complicated how to find a contact person because there's a statement being made at the bottom there for almost going on four years.

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stating that issues are happening today in Cocoa. And that is not true. It's false information because it's old information. And it's odd that I only see them referring to Cocoa, none of the other cities. Now, in addition to that, what I'm hoping is that we could take this and try to present it basically damage control

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advertising and let it be known through some kind of interview with the mayor, the council,

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We're also talking about security guards in the area. That's another thing that I think is important because by them being seen or the person going up and down our streets there can be a preventative. The other problem is there have been many times where calls were made and they were mobbed with crime issues. The police could not come. I mean, they're loaded already with the responsibilities, okay? And this could help alleviate some of the needs that people have in other parts of the city without being dependent in the downtown part. So that's something that I highly recommend. The Commercial Property Group and the coalition through Mrs. Rogers are very interested in trying to resolve a lot of things that some ordinances that we have are not really addressing it properly, one of being noise ordinance. Another one is the ordinances that are not really created in a way that's conducive to the activity in the village. Very important. And ‸ this I don't think we've ever done in years. I don't remember how long ago it was that we've ever looked into the ordinances.

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I'm hoping for the best for that. Waste management. Big problem. When I call somebody on the phone to get to talk to somebody,

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not in Cocoa. And if you go to the office here in Cocoa, their front door is locked. You have to know where to walk around the building to find the door to get in. The other issue is when you have a pile of debris, there are neighbors that will consolidate on that pile in front of vacant lots and even houses that are vacant. Instead of having the piles up and down the whole street, they're consolidating them. They tried to call my property, not residential, multifamily, but commercial. Why? Because then

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And I called and complained about that. And I don't know if it's the mayor or whoever it was, but when I brought it to their attention, that was removed immediately. And

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going on 25 or 30 years now. Okay? So this is something that we're going to have to look into, the agreements with waste management. It's getting to the point, if you go around tomorrow morning, just drive around. ‸ It does not look good like it used to. We really have to seriously look into this. Thank you.

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won't take any more of your time. Appreciate it.

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very much,

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sir. Yes, sir. We've had educational tutorial courses. They have given us bulk items to be picked up. They've given us a number. It was on your magnet. But there again, it's time to do tutorial. And I concur. I've received the phone calls and I, like everyone else, made sure the proper

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individuals received

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that. Thank you. Yes, sir.

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Did you have anything?

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What is your main concern? The crime is not increasing, but by having policing representation, it could be a preventative. For example, there is a merchant that was busy taking

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And while she was doing that, she found out that people were taking clothes and putting them in their backpacks. And she was... items were stolen from ‸ her place. So it's little stuff like that, that if you allow it to continue, it's going to get worse. Same for the homeless situation. They have to see that it's being enforced. Another example of it being ‸ a potential to prevent from it getting worse. And it's starting already. There's a test to it. In addition to that, there's people that are violating the noise ordinance. There's people that are crowd control. There are several subjects that can be protected if we have some kind of representation that can end up, if it gets out of their... out of control.

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‸ But I think with them just being there seen, I mean, that's enough. And ‸ the money is there already. We've been providing it every year, but we wanted it to go to the police department. But it looks like now it might be best to have a sub police department if you want to call security guards that way. That I think with the badge and the uniform and all that, it ‸ would be something that would be more conducive. And it will fit into all the new projects we've got coming here. We need to do this before they get here.

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guard system, the ordinances in the city, and things like that. I don't want to wait till after the fact. You see? And I think everybody agrees with me on that. When you have that kind of money invested in one city that quickly in a matter of a couple of years or something like that, we need to let them know that we want class.

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Of course. Does anybody else?

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don't want to make you keep talking. That's all right. But ‸ I can do it. ‸ I've had practice up there. But I understand where you're going. ‸ But I have told you this before. I somewhat disagree ‸ with going

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an overkill. And it could be a reverse factor where they say, well, why is so many officers?

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Well, that's why I think it's best to be one person. It was suggested that we can afford two, one on each street. But again, because they're not police officers. There's a difference. I got you. And so that's a lower key to prevent us from going even worse. ‸ That's the difference, which is why I would not want to see a police officers there. I did ask for that in the beginning. Yes,

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you did.

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But now I've learned that it's cheaper, less expensive, number one, instead of just having one officer or two for the funds that you all agreed upon.

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Now

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we can have as many as two, if that's what you all want to do.

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When they had the K run, this is the last thing I'll tell you, right on the corner of Derby and Brevard Avenue, right on the street where all of us are living, there was a motorcycle guy from a motorcycle gang,

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the stamps and all that. It's obvious that he was a motorcycle gang member. He stood on that corner with, didn't matter the music, this was early enough to where it supports the event that's happening. Okay. But he did not look good.

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Did he create a problem?

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Yeah, he made too much noise and he didn't fit. The people that were running,

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‸ the

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people running were better looking than the sky.

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person crossed that finish line. I was right there in front of Ryan's. Well, maybe he heard about me

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being upset about it and he hid.

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was there when they started and everything.

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It was on the corner of Derby and Brevard Avenue and the rest of the people that live on the street

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now.

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going as loud as it can go. And they're here and gone. Why do they do that? Nobody knows. But that's another thing that can be prevented with some kind of representation.

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great conversation

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to ask. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

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I'm sorry. Ms. Pam. Ms. Pam. Ms. Pam, can you do me a favor?

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Yes.

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For our next meeting,

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really want to hear this, what he's talking about, ‸ fire security. I want to hear the business owner's concerns. I really... If ‸ there's any...

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So, just recently, this past week, we unfortunately had a shoplifter, and she has been in the village more than once. And we blasted her picture on Facebook.

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I'll just be honest with you. I did go to one of the merchants today, and I said, you have her on camera. Why didn't you call Coco PD? And the merchant was like, well, Coco PD won't do anything. And I said, that doesn't make any sense to me. I said, you have this woman on camera, and she had the item, and she walked out the store. I said, you have to call Coco PD. They will come down here, and they will find her.

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her own camera.

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if you don't prosecute, then she went to two other stores, and she shoplifted from two other stores, and probably the one he's talking about. And they also caught her on camera. So, I don't understand why they're not. I will tell you that a police presence, they do have it in Melbourne. Y'all all know I have a store down there.

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And he can't be everywhere at the same time, just like if we had one officer here. But the fact that there is one there during the day does help deter, and he blends in with everyone, things from happening.

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Whether you use a private security, or we use off-duty officers, but someone that's walking around just so people feel comfortable, but not in an environment where they're like, here we go with social media. And they're typing, okay, the village isn't safe, or this happened in the village, okay. It gets dark early, but soon enough it won't be.

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I think we've talked many times.

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We have cameras everywhere now in the village. I don't tell people where all these cameras are. ‸ Stockton has added even more cameras. ‸ We need better lighting. I

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Sir? You just told them.

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Okay, well, okay. It's okay.

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they were. So,

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there, but that's okay. You know, we need better lighting.

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If you light it up at night, then you don't have vagrancies. You don't have those issues.

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called down here, okay. So, you know, I think if we can help that, you know, we do have issues with our restrooms after hours. Stockton has put up nice gates. We're looking into the locks.

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but, you know, they're going to try. And ‸ in all honesty, it's some of the homeless, but sometimes it's not. I'll be honest with you. I get cameras. It's not always the homeless that destroy things around here, okay. You know, I don't know if that answers your question, Alex, but that gives you a feel, you know. It's just hard, and we know that, and we do appreciate everything that council does, and especially the CRA. And we have some good ideas, but, you know, it takes money and time. But, as Alex said, we need to be in front of it and not behind it.

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and ‸ it can happen anywhere. So, let's be proactive, because you all know what I used to do in my day job. Thank you. Go.

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And let me say something for the record, please. Yes, sir. I visit the downtown Cocoa Village weekly. I

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know

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you do.

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Yes, you do. And

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I ask

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them,

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how do you feel when you're in the downtown area? And even the city manager has been there.

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been positive. Yes. I have people that live on the outskirts of the city limits of Cocoa, just south of the city of Cocoa. But

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But I'm also talking to the people that reside here and come here quite frequently, and they feel safe.

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Yes, ‸ we all feel safe. If people ask me, I feel safe, Mr. Mayor.

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I'm not saying that I don't feel safe. I'm not saying that.

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get comfortable, but sometimes perception becomes reality when you hear it, hear it, hear it, and I'm right here. Right. And even though I'm 6'5", it's no difference between me being 6'5", a svelte 290, and a police officer carrying a gun as well with a badge on his chest. It's no difference. So that's my thing, is that we please maintain a cool, calm, collective type of

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atmosphere.

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Because

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dot this room, dot that door, and leave this room before the truth really leaves this room. And you guys and guyettes know what I'm talking

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about.

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So we have to be ever so wise, wise as a serpent.

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Yes, absolutely. Absolutely, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Yes, we're on the same sheet. Yes. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Yeah.

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At least two or three times a week. And I'm always surveying people like you. And so it's always been interesting to me that I get very positive feedback.

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Yeah. Yeah. So. I

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mean, there are a couple of people that take the opportunity to complain. You know, I appreciate that. But overall, I get very positive feedback.

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So keep your hand off the panic button, please. No.

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point was, as someone states, they know they are so eloquently.

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The only reason I even brought that up was because we had so much focus on nightlife. And that was during, you know, when something bad happened down here, we responded to it. And ‸ so he kind of pricked my ears up when ‸ there's daytime issues. And so, and it may not be probably once every blue moon, you see things happen. You know what

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mean? But sometimes even that one thing could be a major issue. And so that's the only reason why.

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I bet.

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I bet. I will ‸ say this. Cocoa PD does frequently come through the village during the day. Okay. So they are present and they're here. Okay. And I'm not asking for additional security.

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Okay. You know. So. Yeah.

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Okay. Thank you. Is this a member because he

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finished, ma'am? Oh yeah.

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Do you really need to say something because I need to get to these two items, sir?

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Yeah.

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15 seconds.

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It's representation.

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We're

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you've been told, which I've been told that also, but at the same breath, they say, however, ever. And so the point I'm making is that when you have 70 signatures making a statement that it's too noisy at night, and then you've got 40 responses over this recent weekend that

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And those are more residential people.

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about what's happening in the village. You can't ignore that.

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All right.

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Oh, Mrs. Rogers.

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Mayor, make sure you submit your card.

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Oh, I have the other card,

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yes,

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Yes, ma'am. I just saw that things are done decent and in order. Oh, yes, sir. Because they say we're giving preferential treatment when I know it's not the case.

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All right.

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Proceeding on to item number four presentations.

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I have a presentation.

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Go ahead, mademoiselle.

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There's a birthday on Wednesday. And it happens to be Mr. Mayor. And since you love to sing to everybody else, we're going to sing to you. So if

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y'all

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would join me,

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it's to be

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happy birthday to the mayor.

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birthday, Mr.

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Mayor.

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Happy birthday to

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you.

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And

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many more.

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Thank you, ma'am. Thank you all. Thank you all. ‸ All I want to know, who let the cat out of the bag?

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‸ Social

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media let

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the

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Okay. ‸ Proceeding on to the next one. You guys got me. You got me.

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Okay.

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Yes,

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ma'am.

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Request agency approval of the budget resolution amending fiscal year budget 25.

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Mrs.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, ma'am. As you know, every year, typically in November, the projections that are made during our budget season are become actuals through the property appraiser. And we get our tax numbers based on those projections and the actual payments that have been made to the county. This year are the projections fell short for $89,319. And which is about the average of what we've seen over the last few years of what our projections are.

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from the county. So that's an at built build at 95% because we don't receive 100% of the TIF revenue. ‸ And so we're just

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that we received from the county.

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Okay, ma'am. Do you have any concerns? I know it's there's parentheses around $89,319.

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it. ‸ This is indicative of, yes, we're going to

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have

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the baby bill, baby bill.

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be honest. If we want to maintain or escalate our TIF funds so that we can maintain this positive level so we can ‸ provide quality services for the downtown CRA area. Is that a correct interpretation, Mr. City Manager?

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

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I mean, as you know, you guys know, when you go into budget development, you're taking an educated guess at what your revenue would be. And then, as Mrs. Neuterman said, you're actually just truing it up to the actuals at the end of the year. And so, you know, shortfall because we budgeted one amount and received another. But again, it's the actual

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true enough

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of the actuals versus budget.

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Okay. So in that case, Chair,

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would

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like to make a motion to approve the recommendation stated. And we have a second on

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going to call the question. All in favor saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye's have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 5-2, approve an extension to March 3rd, 2025, to continue

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Hospitality Group, LLC, and the COCO CRA represented by the city manager and the CRA attorney. I think this is my gut feeling, and I could be wrong.

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And if I'm wrong, then I will say I apologize. That's one word I will say. And I will apologize. But I do believe in

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360 Hospitality Group, and I do believe in the city manager and city attorney and staff

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continuing to negotiate this ordeal. I ‸ feel safe, and my assumption and assessment is it's not what we had previously. ‸ We do have this collaboration and communication because we do have cooperation.

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Who would like to go first, please?

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So as you noted, Mr. Chairman, we have been in the process of going through negotiations with the 603 Brevard developer, which is 360 Hospitality Group. We are meeting regularly with them. Obviously, for the last few weeks, because of the holidays, some of those meetings had to be postponed.

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teams and with our attorneys and our city staff and city manager to negotiate the redevelopment agreement to bring before you.

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be addressed. And ‸ in doing so, we're requesting another 60 days in order to finalize ‸ those points and to bring back a redevelopment agreement, preferably at the March CRA meeting.

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Mr. City Attorney? I

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ma'am. What? Let me see your light, young lady.

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you can't even see. Okay.

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Okay.

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In the background, you're speaking about some progress has been made by defining ‸ key parameters. What are the key parameters and which ones have been met and which ones are we still working on?

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It's not a matter of what's been met. It's how those key parameters are identified and written into the agreement. Nothing has been met. That's what this redevelopment agreement is, is basically the drawing board for them to move forward into getting those points delivered to us.

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Okay. So which are those parameters? Can you give an example of what we're working on? I'm at a loss as to where we are on this. So,

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so, uh, the parameters include the stormwater, uh, reviews, parking reviews, traffic studies. All of those are being detailed. Uh, they have to bring us, uh, the number of hotel rooms, the number of keys for the rooms. They have to bring us what the parking structure is going to be, how it's going to be laid out, what vacating properties we're going to,

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part of John Guerin, how that's going to be, uh, laid out in the plan. And so those are the main points that we're looking at. And we're just trying to get the details now to bring forward with the redevelopment agreement for them to begin working on bringing back those deliverables to us so that we can move into a development agreement.

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else, any other agency members? Let's go around the desk. Go ahead. Please feel free to chime in.

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Do you feel like we are getting there?

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Yeah. The, I had a hard time remembering the process. And so, and so we were two things. Well, actually, one thing comes back to you guys there, the redevelopment agreement, which is the timeline of deliverables. And so we, we all are thinking that we're, we're going to bring you back something that, you know, that is the hotel. What we're bringing back in terms of the development agreement is just simply the timeline of deliverables. And Charlene gave you a number of those. It's the market study. It's the economic development study. It's the traffic. Uh, it's the, uh, Florida room ratio calculations. So it's all of those things and it's outlining when those things will occur, you know, so, so we'll, we'll come back in March with a development agreement that says, you know, these are the different phases of the project. And in this phase, we're going to get the marketing study. And that phase is due, uh, six months from the time that you execute the redevelopment agreement.

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And that's going to be due nine months from some date and time there.

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so, and so again, just to refresh our memories, all the redevelopment agreement is just

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timeline or an outline of the process of the deliverables that are due over a period of time.

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is, is that, you know, it's kind of, we have this defined process that may be a little different than others there. Anthony can speak to that, but, but it's a good process because we literally say, we'll come back in March. We'll hand you this redevelopment agreement. Staff would have negotiated that with the 360 group. You'll know exactly what's due by what date in terms of, again, those things that Charlene has mentioned, ‸ those things that I've mentioned.

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So we bring you back a development agreement with the deliverables and their due dates. Again, the marketing study,

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uh,

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economic feasibility, uh, it'll talk about parking. It'll talk about, uh, stormwater.

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of streets, if they want any of that. Um, you know, how they're going to meet the park.

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be the ask of the parking requirements. And so, so there'll be some deal points outlined in it, but they will also be some sort of process deliverables that'll be outlined in it. And they'll give you a conceptual, a little bit more than what you've seen just in the preliminary, uh, schematics there.

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of deliverables. They understand ‸ that better now, you know, and remember it's, it's a couple of things there. So that, so that, so it took us some time to actually say, no, just what I'm saying and, and say, well, no, we're working towards this redevelopment agreement that comes back to the CRA board. And that'll outline the phases of the project, the phases of the, of the deliverables. So it's

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some time to get there. It's a good thing that they're, they're busy, you know, I mean, you, you want, you know, you want them to have a book of business there. And so, and so we've made progress. We sit down, uh, prior to the, to the holiday break there, we were sitting down, you know, we tried to do it once a week.

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part was required. Um, and so they understand that their attorney is working on, um, the, the, the pertinent points to present to Mr. Garganese and staff there, and then he'll draft up there.

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Now, if we come back in March and, and there's another time extension, you'll know something is not going well, you know, but, but I'm okay, uh, right now. Um, you know, I was asked earlier today, how long we've been actually negotiating. Negotiating, I think we started April, March, some, some of that timeframe. So, and again, you know, staff is doing stuff. They're doing stuff there.

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I'm okay with the, till March. Definitely. If we come back and we have, we're having the same conversation in March, then you certainly something's not going well.

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Two extensions already.

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Um,

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and it sounds to me like this education you're talking about, some of the, some of the things that they have to do because we're a CRA is different than what they're ‸ used to doing. Is that, I mean, what, what is it that they're not? Yeah,

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think, I think that's a good point. I'm glad you mentioned that too.

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because our process ‸ is different than they could have done other. I don't think they've worked with any other governmental entity to deliver a product. And so, so this is their first time. Ours is a very defined process where, where again, we have this redevelopment agreement. And then ultimately the city council has ‸ a development agreement with them. And so we, we kind of have this two step process with phases that are outlined in the redevelopment agreement there. They're certainly not used to, to that. I'm

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assuming it's some similar, at least to the redevelopment agreement we had with the previous guy.

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Yeah. ‸ Okay.

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It's the same, the same, the same. And I don't have it in front of me, but, but again, like the first phase will probably be, uh, the marketing studies do, you know, well, when does the first phase occur between the execution of the redevelopment agreement and six months? You know, when does phase two occur and what are things are due in phase two? Maybe the traffic study is due in phase two and when is that due? And so that's, that's really the document that we're bringing back to you, but I'm glad you made that point because this is probably their first time sitting at the table undergoing this sort of governmental process.

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with governmental entities is glacial in its speed. But, you know, months and then months and I just want to be sure that you feel like we're actually making progress and you're not just telling us what we want to hear.

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Okay.

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Then I'm good. Thank you.

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that doesn't turn very quickly.

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Anyone else would like to chime in?

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Yeah. I just wanted to say, I'm sure that the developer would rather get it out of the ground and start making money from it as soon as possible and having to deal with the government agency. Yes, it is cumbersome. And the fact that they're willing to work with us, I say, hallelujah. So let's give them some time.

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and just to affirm what

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saying. I'll have to find a new hairdresser if we don't get something ‸ soon.

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Yep, yep.

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It's coming. Streamline it,

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but

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streamline it.

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You believe it when you see it? Me? Yeah.

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You'll see it in your lifetime.

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Oh,

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okay. Um, well, anyway, that's, that's all I wanted to say.

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Oh, nice frames, by the way. I like the color scheme.

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And I, and I think that's really the reason why you didn't see so many, uh, contractors, there's developers jumping at the bid because, um, it was, it's so many layers to what,

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it has to be, right? And so a lot of these guys, they coming in, they usually, they, they, they purchase the property. They submit their permits and, and plans and then boom, it's gone. They don't have to deal with heights and what this ‸ supposed to look like.

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and so it's just, you know, so I think that's a good ‸ point that, that everybody is

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too, as well.

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the fact that they're at the table.

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we've seen many different RFPs go out and we've seen what we

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and I believe, um, a city manager and also, um,

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they know when something smells wrong, we've done this already.

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we need to move on and do something else. And so I trust in the fact that they would want to extend it and I trust in their beliefs and they, so I'm willing to move forward and give another opportunity. Hopefully, hopefully we don't have to do this again.

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will hear from agency member costs and then chair entertains

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a motion

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is standing. Um, just wanted to add, ‸ there's also a $2 million piece of property that they are receiving on this. Just wanted to remind you of that. But also the other thing, I mean, realistically, when you look at all the hotels that are about going up right now, and we don't have a conference center, we don't have a venue that is going to be attracting those larger events. So, you know, they're, they are dancing here in terms of the market.

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And, uh, so that may be one of the other things that is on their mind.

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And we'll see more as we go through this process and see the, uh, the marketing plan, the economic development plan. Thank you.

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‸ What are the wishes of the agency? If not, I'll make this motion. Go ahead. Go ahead. Second. All right. We have a motion on

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chair, uh, lady, uh, Weeks. That's quite all

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or agency member, lady Weeks. She's going to call the question. All in favor of saying aye. Aye. Ayes have it unanimously. All right. Seeing that job well done, go forward. Please ma'am and sirs.

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on the deck. Yeah.

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Oh, what? No report.

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Okay, sir. Thank you very much. That was easy. Yes. Updates and staff reports.

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Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a couple of reports.

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on the update and we will be bringing down

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back, uh, probably within the next two months, a draft to the agency for, for review. Uh, staff will be reviewing the draft currently, providing comments back to the consultant and then a draft will come before the agency for comments. And we'll provide it to you with plenty of time to review prior to the meeting and, uh, as we move forward. Okay.

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Which, which event are you speaking about?

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talking about the CRA plan.

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So, so that's, that's, we're working on that. And after we get the CRA's feedback, it'll go before planning and zoning and then

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council for final approval. Uh, so there is a process and we look to finalize this by may or June at the, the latest and get all of this, um, into the system. And that's ‸ perfect timing with the budget in the next cycle going through the planning process. As you know, that there is the new, uh, civic clerk meeting management software that just rolled out. Uh, we are

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And, uh, so I, I know that I've heard that there were some challenges for some of you members. And, and so please communicate with the city clerk on, on those challenges so that we can work through those. Uh, as you, as we get, uh, better acquainted with the system. And as you get better acquainted with the system, it'll,

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the improvements will be there. Uh, but we're just, we're all in the learning process. So we were the first meeting to break it in.

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I, I'm just, I would say we're all very lucky that the agenda was actually published last week because we weren't sure either if it was going to work. So, um, we were, we were crossing our fingers

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about using it. And, uh, there's a lot of features that we'll be able to utilize that we weren't able to utilize in the other programs. So that's, that really does make it, uh, very helpful for all of us. So we're looking forward to that.

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be closed

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Martin Luther King on January 20th. And, uh, we'll be working to bring back, uh, uh, information to you for the next meeting and that'll be in February, but that's it. So no reports, no other reports.

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Okay. I have a question, please. Ma'am. Um, let me, for my summation about the new, um, um, software that we have, I think Jackie Gleason summarized ‸ eloquently how sweet it is. I know I'm telling my age

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you guys were not born at this time.

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remember it well.

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it's your birthday and now we know how old.

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Yes, yes. I'm very proud. Yes ma'am. And the second thing ma'am, um, as we adventure to and from on the Humphrey Bridge to and from

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And, and, you know, this past Saturday night downtown, I'm just saying the positive progress. Can you enlighten me about that? Um,

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man, our man, Mr. Jerry.

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uh, Florida city gas and Florida power and light are in there doing their, their underground work, uh, for the conduits that are going to be taking, uh, both gas and electric across to the other side of the Indian river. And so they'll be doing that work probably for the next two months. And then the final finalization of that will be to pave and do all the final striping and do all the final cleanup work. And if we're lucky, we'll be finished hopefully in the next four months, five months. Oh, wow. Sweet.

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Yeah, we, we were, we were significantly ahead of schedule. ‸ And

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if you remember,

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Florida city gas and Florida power and light wanted to actually run there, uh, the fiber and then the gas lines.

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would get in and out at the start of our project and it would only take a couple of weeks. But that's turned out to be something a little bit different there.

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next day with Florida city gas there. So the subcontractor and the contractors have done a great job. We were, we were probably six months ahead, ahead of schedule there.

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so,

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so they, they have actually demobilized and we're now waiting on Florida city gas and Florida, uh, power and light to actually do their thing. Now, you know, the flip side of that is, is that they did pay us for the benefit of running their, um, their, uh, gas lines and their fiber there. They probably need to pay us a little bit more for delaying the project. And so we'll

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we'll be, uh, talking to them about that tomorrow. And so I, I, I, I'm glad you asked

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I really wanted to get that on the record, you know, because again, we would have been probably finished.

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The end of this month.

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Yeah. Which would have been

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amazing. ‸ Been nice

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to have that back in service, you know, but, but again, so they were supposed to, the, the, the, the utility companies start this week and then hopefully they'll finish up within eight weeks.

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Awesome.

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And that's, that was the main, uh, point to get to July 4th and have it open. And so I, I, I really, we anticipate that's going to be the case.

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Super fantastic. Okay. Um, you've answered my question. We will proceed in this order.

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and, um,

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you would like to chime in, please do not hesitate.

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Okay. Well, mine was a question, um, asking again about the architectural guidelines standards that in 2020, you weren't here then. Um,

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probably a couple of differences on the board here, but we had contracted $60,000 to have some architectural guidelines standards written. Um, and we never incorporated those, but we do those, have those as a tool to inform us. Um,

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wanted to make sure that you got a copy of it about a year. I had asked about it and we all received copies.

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of presentation.

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I know that was a part of the RFP, um, with the architect. Um, and

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we would

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affect all of the village. And since we're, we've got several projects coming up where we're going to be looking at development agreements and facades, I think it would be, it would be great to have that tool to inform us about what are the particular features that already exist within the village that we can build on and incorporate and that make

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special. And that's what that study did. Um, it's about 70 pages, but it's all almost ‸ all photos. And, um, that's what having that, I, I'm not an architect, but someone that has an eye for that sort of thing can really point out and have some value, um, and inform us in the decisions we have coming up. So that's my request.

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Okay, ma'am. Is that it ma'am?

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Yeah. Oh, I'm asking staff.

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Mrs. Norderman.

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I'm going to defer to the city manager.

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I think, and that, that had started, um, I'm just looking for the email. Um, yeah, that, that process had started, uh, prior to me coming there. I

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projects. Like

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uh, and looking at, what is that? 430, 430 Brevard. I know we utilize that, uh, when we talk about the, uh, the hotel.

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Who is

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the consultant that we were currently working with, I think?

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No, uh,

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Yeah, it was SNME.

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Okay, so they became GCI or something.

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organizations.

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of them, I don't inspire. Yeah, so some of them are inspire. And so we gotta go talk to them about, you know, can you pick that

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staff about if, if we're able to present it, but we do use those guidelines when we're looking at projects that we're planning around the village there. But, um, so I've taken the note and we'll, we'll,

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see how we can actually pick that back up and deliver that as a sort of a final product to, uh, to this board.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Okay. Uh, Kate, can you give us an update?

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if you have it today, that's fine. If not, you can wait to the next meeting, the

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I know we had that conversation maybe a few months ago. Um, maybe see where we are in that.

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I will be bringing back an agenda to the February meeting regarding Oleander parking lot.

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will be an all encompassed. It's not just the lighting and the reaction.

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Paving

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all, all. Okay.

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we, we want to do, we probably something less than paving. So we'll look at those new sort of grid

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And I ‸ think we had to, we had to get through the changes that we were making within the heart

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To get through that.

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so I think we're finally through that. And so, cause we're going to do it as one big project with the lighting, with the, with the, uh, with the defined parking spaces and those sort of things. You know, landscaping.

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Yeah. I'll be bringing back a proposal for design and, and going on with that project.

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Thank you. ‸ Appreciate you.

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was seeking, I'm seeking a update on the, uh, boat slips that got destroyed a few storms ago. Uh, we, uh, looking at having those replaced.

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They, every storm. Um, and so, and so, you know, as you know, we're still working with FEMA. We're still trying to recover, um, those ‸ proceeds there actually

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this conversation.

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um, about there are companies out there.

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most, and a lot of cities utilize a third party to actually work with FEMA to sort of get your dollars, you know?

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21. One was right after I came. And so, so we're, we're four years, five years out

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trying to recover the dollars. Recovery is still going on. I think we need outside experts to help us process through that. So, so we'll probably be bringing something back.

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third party companies that actually do that for a living. And go get your dollars from FEMA.

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Correct. Um, that's understandable. Uh, I definitely know how that process works. Um, and I asked that the reason I asked that I took a visit the city of Titusville over the weekend and, um, I noticed some work that they were doing over on their waterfront area.

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uh, they're working on a breaker wall to, uh, I'm guess, protect the new roadway and a waterfront that they're building. And, um, I wanted to bring that on, put that on you guys minds. If we're going out looking for possible grants, I don't know if it's grants out there still that may assist in something like that, uh, to protect those assets. If we were to be able to put those slips back in.

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Yeah, I did. I read that and, and it's a combination of federal funding. Um, I don't know if they got state dollars there and then it's some, some county funding and some city funding there.

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are and then finally the news article came out there.

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so I did, I did note that. And so hopefully somewhere down the line there, that would be a good project for us to undertake and seek funding for also.

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We're currently, we have a find grant that is analyzing, uh, what the capabilities are, what, what would be the best method for doing that.

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consultant that is doing all of that analysis and that was

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So we're in your,

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Okay. Perfect. So

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we'll be providing some information as soon as we get it.

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All right. Thank you for that.

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just want to make sure I get the ladies on the end. Ladies.

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I'd like to address the ordinances and the enforcement of those ordinances that we have. We have the ordinances to try to, uh, develop a, uh, a goal of what we want to have.

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and over the

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years things happen and change and we need to go back because what has happened, I think we're building on top of, uh, ordinances that are a little creepy and it's not a good foundation. Uh, and I think if I think about even

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we have

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over there over a year and for months. And that's just unacceptable. I think we need to have a workshop where, because I can think of a lot of different, just immediate things that we need to tweak. Then the second part of that is we need to enforce it. Now, when we have security, I don't look at that as a negative. That's actually part of, like, the stuff that we're ‸ saying, this is our property. This is not, you have a territory. And for them, I don't

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where the bathrooms are,

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of security. I don't feel secure going to a restaurant and have to cross and be panhandled on my way over to the restaurant. So, I think we can do that by just simply showing we have a presence, but it doesn't have to be a threatening presence. It could be more of a, uh, confident, again, bachelor,

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you know,

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where you're going to help them. A lot of cities do that.

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was going on in

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So, everything. But moving on from that, um, I would

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like to know,

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on those. Because the ones I did address a lot of things going on in the waterfront that won't cost us really very much at all. A lot of them have grants, and almost everything I've presented has a grant to it.

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One is the pump out station.

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the point of trying to heal the Indian River if we're allowing people to urinate and

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will? That can be done through a grant,

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You know

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be covered

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to what we would like to approach. I'm not asking for additional money here. I'm just saying, let's go after the money that are out there. Uh, there's money even to maybe go with the Sheriff's Department to try to work with Merritt Island. They have a grant. And we

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share a boat that

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help control the area. Um, that's just what I would like if we could, and when could we do that?

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We'll have to look at the calendar and come back to you on that.

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And then the last thing, um, as far as landscaping, uh, a lot of people have been negative about

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And I didn't hear anything about any trees being planted.

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‸ I'm going to continue to know what are we putting in for shade to soften it and, you

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know,

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the plan actually.

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And so, and so the original design didn't include a whole lot of trees or, or so we, we, we've come back and we've developed something there. I think I gave her a copy of, ‸ I'll give you guys a copy of that. You know, it's not going to be hundreds of trees, you know, but we, we've tried to fit them into the islands as we could. So, so make sure you get a copy of that.

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Sorry.

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Okay, Alex. Thank

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you.

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Go ahead, Mel.

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Um,

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talking

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about the trees.

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the enforcement. We had a boat with somebody who died down there

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don't want to get into all of that, but he died

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They always die on the way to the hospital.

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think

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on ‸ the hospital.

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But I just would like to see some enforcement of the laws that we actually have. That's all.

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Yes.

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dealing with some of these boats,

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A lot of these vessels have, um, chemicals, oils, that's, or gasoline, petroleum inside of their boats. And we have to be conscientious of that. And you could grant me and tell me everything about what's available. And, and I respect that. But I'm with you. What will it take for them to come in? And I'm sure there's environmental things. The E.P. is going to say,

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can't move this boat unless you have blase the criteria and the requirements in order to remove this boat.

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I can

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So I can see it on the east side of the Indian River. Uh, boats right there in front of the yellow condominiums.

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I mean, if there was some kind of way, some barge that could come in there and remove them without an oil spill, I

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be in favor of it. Um,

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elaborate on those D.E.P. scenarios that we deal with and pertaining to. Uh, because here's my other thing. Hey, how do you deal with the person with the derelict boat? They just drop it off there. You know, you, you, and hey, if people want to commit a crime, they're going to commit a crime. They don't care where it's at.

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Some of them don't even care. But go ahead.

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Well, I'll send you the correspondence from, uh, the staffer over at the county, Matt, Matt Culver, who's, uh, ‸ responsible for, you know, ‸ that program. You know, it's a process to removing derelict vessels.

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People are allowed, uh, time to, to remove their boats there. And so I'll send you that. It's a, it's more of an education piece ‸ there. Um, you know, there is an enforcement aspect of it. That's, that's a matter of resources. It's staff resources. It's, it's, uh, ‸ it's boats. It's signage and those sort of things there. But I'll,

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send you, um, what he sent me, um, because I did ask after the last storm and he said that, well, because the state is so backlogged, it'll probably take more time than it normally takes to just get through that, that sort of due process that everyone has, who, who has a derelict vessel sitting out there in the water there. So,

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but I'll

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send that to you.

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in, what's it, 2017? Which says that we shouldn't even be able to see if there are folks within views.

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Doing something before that. Or if that boat pulls up before a storm, don't allow it to be brought up and tied up.

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process of taking these out is, I understand, difficult response.

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and it's, it's a shame.

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But, um, I would like to see a movement when they're there and they're not supposed to be

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I don't know what his problem was, but.

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‸ Yeah.

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have agency member calls go ahead sir

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yeah let me just read into the record what I got from Matt this was in October October 29 it says Stockton all storm related sunken boats in Cocoa or are and elsewhere have been reported by FWC I've been informed that the state has emergency funding and we will initiate removals as soon as the reports clear and after all responsible parties do what they can first. Generally, derelict vessel reporting requires at least 45 ‸ days. And with the number of votes down countywide,

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must wait for adjusters and inspection before hiring a removal company on their own. There are not many local companies equipped to do this work, which can also slow the process. And so again I'll send you all of the information he's given us but again it's a process it's a process that's defined in ‸ statute. And so, and again, remember that when when a storm is approaching, we don't have staff out there seeing who's hooking up there I mean at some point in time we take cover and so the gentleman who died on the boat that

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that, you know, didn't really, he wanted to wait the storm out on the boat. And so, so again you know it's a long process it's a frustrating process but again they

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that just unfortunately takes a period of time to process through it.

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and I recall there was an individual out there during the storm where the the law enforcement went out there I think our people went out there our police department went out there and rescued someone during the storm

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‸ Yeah, and that, that was the, that was the gentleman who ultimately passed away.

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heart attack no no no no yeah I thought there was a separate incident that that that required us to go out there and rescue them Yes. ‸ sir. Okay. so So you know the ramifications and you were there in the midst of the storm.

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‸ almost floated away.

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Yes. Yes. During the time when you know you will. yeah okay uh agency member

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I just want to make sure you

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oh no I need

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no yes ma'am I concur wholeheartedly

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yes

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agency member calls ma'am

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yes so not to belabor the point so I will be quick but to your point about prevention um the county Matt Colbert in particular had approached me about the anchor, do you remember the name of the

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‸ as

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an albert l as in lorraine yeah as an albert

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right

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but

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anyway

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what it did was um it creates a anchor anchor limited I think it's anchor limited something so anchor limited access So

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had approached me because ‸ limitation

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where the big white condos are, they are setting that up there. And he wanted to make sure that we set it up here because once they do over there, people are gonna ‸ head over here since we don't have any signage up. Now, Stockton had

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there are other things that we can put in place. but the point of this program was not so much that it is the end all because I think it's like you can only anchor for so many

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back. But it allows you to put the signage up so that most of the good players aren't doing that. And um if they're going to do it on the other side, we need to do it on this side.

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to be able to monitor it or to start to monitor it. So that was the council that was going to address that? Stockton? Yeah,

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yeah it is. So the anchoring limitation areas as a designation. They've done it in Melbourne. They may be working on it in the county. uh I just sent that information to Charlene

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so, so the city could do that again, as you said, that requires some enforcement, it requires signage.

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you got to be able to prove that they've been there continuously. ‸ And so again, it's, it's a a matter of resources ‸ there. As I talked to the city attorney, he believes that we already have an ability to do those sort of things there. And so we'll eventually get together with him and come up with either we're going to do the ALA or

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to do uh something very similar to that under the authorities that you already have under the uh the submerged lands and sovereign lands and whatever else it's called. um

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I'm done. Thank you.

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Again, that's that's resources. ‸ takes

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money. That's why that's why i've just kept my mouth closed. But it takes money. Now, ‸ y'all ready to generate additional funds to accommodate these concerns that you have?

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I'm not singling anyone out.

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used for, you know, the weekends, people doing this and that, they're becoming, uh generally homeless homeless homeless people and so crowded. And also, some are being uh bought and rented out

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the areas and say that it can only be so many feet

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that. I think once we start showing that we're taking control of our territory, then that's going to make them not want to be here. They can just drift on down to the next city. But we I think we have to protect what we have. And I think we have to draw the line and get before a ‸ storm. I don't think that you're allowed. I thought we had a

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We're not

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I'm going to sit here. We have the

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world ‸ But

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got caught in washington and had a heart attack. So I hate to

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boat. Exactly.

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His

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spouse.

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we can do, let's try to do it. let's

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to set down on markers and our boundaries okay

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you Got it? Okay. All

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Okay.

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February

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beautiful downtown

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Move to adjourn. We have a motion on the vote for

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in favor, ‸ saying aye. Aye. eyes have it unanimously. Go in peace. good night everyone

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