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Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-28, pp. 6–12; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-28, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file.The approving motion, “to approve the Minutes for the Special meeting of September 9, 2025, as written”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-12-01 agenda packet (2091_12_01_2025_Cocoa_CRA_Agenda_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 7–13; minutes p. 2).
Built only from this meeting's draft minutes (2052_10_27_2025_Agenda_Full.pdf, packet pp. 6–12). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.
Attendance (the roll call)
Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Janne Etz, Candace Rogers
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (Assistant City Attorney), Peyton Fink (Recording Secretary), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, ETZ, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ROGERS (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)
Adopted actions (5)
to approve the Agenda for the Special meeting of September 9, 2025, with action items 5-1 and 5-2 switched (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by ETZ); PASSED 4-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, ETZ, ROGERS; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 6–12
to approve the minutes for August 4, 2025 with an amendment on page 3 (moved by Rogers, seconded by Etz); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 6–12
to approve the applicant the Commercial Façade Improvement Program grant application for an award not to exceed $10,000 for the property located at 501 Florida Avenue (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Patricia Weeks); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 3, packet pp. 6–12
to table this vote for another time (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); PASSED; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 6, packet pp. 6–12 Corrected to match the minutes, page 6.
to adjourn the Special meeting of September 9, 2025 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by ETZ); PASSED 7-0; ayes: Mike Blake, ETZ, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, ROGERS, Patricia Weeks; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 6–12
Motions for which no result was read from the minutes' text (1)
to discussion regarding the Minutes for the Regular meeting of August 4, 2025 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by ETZ); no result was read for this motion from the minutes' text — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 6–12
Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)
$10,000 — CRA: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “approve the applicant the Commercial Façade Improvement Program grant application for an award not to exceed $10,000 for the property located at 501 Florida Avenue” (motion result: PASSED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2025-10-28 agenda packet (2052_10_27_2025_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-28, pp. 6–12; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-28, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes)
Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet
Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2025-10-28, pp. 6–12; approved as written by the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency according to the draft minutes of 2025-10-28, whose own approval is recorded in later draft minutes but not yet confirmed in the City's approved minutes. The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file.
Source: 2052_10_27_2025_Agenda_Full.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2025-10-28 meeting, packet pp. 6–12; lines 179–489 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.
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MINUTES
COCOA CRA
September 9, 2025
The Special Meeting of the Cocoa Community Redevelopment Agency was held
on Tuesday, September 9, 2025, in Cocoa City Hall, in City Council Chambers,
located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa, Florida, 32922, as publicly noticed.
I. CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson BLAKE called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
INVOCATION: Vice Chairperson WEEKS led the assembly in Invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Chairperson BLAKE led the assembly in the Pledge
of Allegiance.
PRESENT: Michael C. Blake Chairperson
Patricia Weeks Vice Chairperson
Alex Goins Agency Member
Lavander Hearn Agency Member (via phone)
Lorraine Koss Agency Member
Janne Etz Agency Member
Candace Rogers Agency Member
Kristin Eick Assistant City Attorney
Peyton Fink Recording Secretary
ABSENT:
OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
City Manager Whitten, Community Services Director Neuterman, Community
Services Manager Justiniano, Police Chief Evander Collier IV, and Police
Commander Marchica.
II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes:
Agenda: Special Meeting held on September 9, 2025, either as written or with
amendments.
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* MOTION by Chairperson BLAKE; Seconded by Agency Member ETZ to
approve the Agenda for the Special meeting of September 9, 2025, with
action items 5-1 and 5-2 switched.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: BLAKE, WEEKS, ETZ, ROGERS.
THE MOTION PASSED (4-0)
Minutes: Regular Meeting held on August 4, 2025, either as written or with
amendments.
* MOTION by Vice Chairperson WEEKS; Seconded by Agency Member ETZ for
discussion regarding the Minutes for the Regular meeting of August 4, 2025.
Agency Member Rogers wants to make an amendment for minutes; she does not
believe the third sentence on page seven reflects what was being stated
correctly. She then made a motion to change the minutes. Which was seconded
by Agency Member Etz.
* MOTION by Agency Member Rogers; Seconded by Agency Member Etz to
approve the minutes for August 4, 2025 with an amendment on page 3.
AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS.
THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)
II. DELEGATIONS:
• D. Hearn wished the mayor and everyone in the Council Chamber well.
• Cindy Pawlak has concerns about safety and homelessness in the village. Stated
that it has been a long slow summer because of it and she is losing money.
IV. PRESENTATIONS: None
V. ACTION ITEMS:
1. Request Agency approval of a Commercial Façade Improvement Program
(CFIP) grant application to award an amount not to exceed $10,000 for the
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property located at 501 Florida Avenue and authorize the City Manager to
complete and execute a CFIP Agreement.
Director Neuterman began by giving an overview of the application. She also gave
information regarding the amount being requested and the property itself. Some
improvements included new sighting, new skirting, replacing the trimming, etc. The
applicant has submitted all required documents, and staff is requesting an amount
not to exceed $10,000. The applicant (Sean Roberts) then began to speak about
the property. He thanked everyone for having him and for having such a grant. He
went over some of the repairs that he wants to complete. The Chairperson thanked
him for standing by his property.
Delegation card from Alex Greenwood who took a moment to speak highly of Sean
and his property. He hopes that his application is accepted by the agency
members.
Agency Member GOINS then made the motion to approve the application, and it
was seconded by Vice Chairperson WEEKS. It was unanimously Approved.
* MOTION by Agency Member GOINS; Seconded by Vice Chairperson WEEKS
to approve the applicant the Commercial Façade Improvement Program
grant application for an award not to exceed $10,000 for the property located
at 501 Florida Avenue.
AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS.
THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)
2. Request Agency approval for option one or two on a quote provided by Allied
Universal Security Services to have a security guard in the Cocoa Village,
effective October 2025 to September 2026. Option one is for an unarmed
security guard for 92 hours a week at an annual rate of $127,254.40. While
option two is for an armed security guard for 92 hours a week at an annual rate
of $147,347.20.
Director Neuterman explained that we are looking for the agency to choose option
one or two of the provided quote, both of which have the same schedule. Once an
option is agreed upon the City Manager will have to authorize a contract to be
brought back at a later date. She then gave an overview of the action item.
Agency Member Goins and Vice Chairperson Weeks have questions regarding the
number of security guards working. The answer is that there is one security guard
working at a time , but there will be multiple officers working the schedule
throughout the week. It will rotate, meaning there will not be just one officer working
the whole schedule for the week.
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Director Neuterman gave additional information regarding the security guard
during a discussion with Agency Member Etz. This information included the fact
that the security guard will replace the police officer and the $100,000 budgeted
for police will be absorbed and go towards the quote for security. Estimated time
frame for security is 45-60 days minimum.
Agency Member Rogers is not in favor of an either -or option. Believes we are
missing a foundation, and states that the homeless problem is a complex issue
and cannot be addressed by police. She made suggestions to increase safety but
does not believe they will solve the problem. She is overall not in favor of a security
guard in the village and would like a framework for police.
Agency Member Goins and the Police Chief discussed some options to increase
the police presence in the village. The Police Chief mentioned that there is a non-
emergency number that can be called for suspected criminal activity. They also
discussed how hard it is to get officers to sign up for late night shifts to work the
village. Agency Member Goins would be on board with incentivizing officers with
more money to work these shifts and would like to try it for a few months. He is not
a fan of only having one security guard, he would rather have police.
The Chairperson a sked for information to allocate fo r police coverage. This is
something that Director Neuterman would need to work with finance on, The City
Manager noted that the CRA can probably budget it. If the CRA were dismantled
this item would need to be brought back and it could be costly as noted by
Chairperson Blake. The City Manager stated that this may be more of an Agency
Attorney question as an agreement may be involved.
The Vice Chairperson and Police Chief then discussed the option of raising the
pay for off icers in the village. It would need to be negoti ated with the union and
vacancies are hard to fill right now. You would also need to raise all salaries in the
department. The Vice Chairperson would rather have police but understands we
may have to go with the security guard.
Agency Member Koss is also in favor of using police officers instead of a security
guard. The City Manager and her went over the types of additional benefits off-
duty officers receive working these shifts. She agrees with Agency Member Rogers
statements regarding needing framework. She is also on board with trying to
incentivize officers for a few months to work the late-night shifts in the village. The
City Manager then stated that these topics can be addressed at the upcoming
nightlife workshop. He stated that we do have law and order but the homeless have
rights
The Police Chief added to this discussion by saying that the police force does have
a good framework and there has been a reduction in crime. He explained that
homelessness is a slippery slope, and they do have rights. The police officers are
trained to deal with them. They want to be careful that they do not get sued. There
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are currently two officers that work Thurs-Sat in the village from 10 p.m. to 3 a.m.
Commander Marchica then went over the precautions the police department has
to ensure safety in the village and plan for events. The Commander also stated
that if you feel unsafe in the village call 911, but if you need an escort then call the
non-emergency number. The Police Chief further emphasized the importance of
making the calls and stated that all calls are recorded. He also stated that at night
there will be loud music, the officers are there to make sure no one is shot and
killed, which is the number one priority. When the police ask people to turn down
their music, they comply. The police do not have the staff to c ite everyone, law
also states people can play music from cars.
Assistant City Attorney Eick informed the agency members and staff that policing
was repealed from the CRA plan in 2025 so if an option is chosen, an interlocal
agreement would need to be brought back. So, the CRA would fund the community
policing o ption chos en and the city w ould be contra cting with the contractor.
Agency Member Hearn asked Eick who the liability would fall on if a lawsuit were
to occur. She responded that it would be a concern, but the contract would need
to be written to protect the city in the best way possible, but you cannot stop
someone from suing. He is in favor of increasing police money and adding more
security measures such as cameras.
Chairperson Weeks agrees with giving the extra money to the police, where we
can have more police officers who can intervene better than a security guard.
States that she would make a motion to that effect.
Chairperson Blake asks if we can table this vote to acquire more information to
make a proper and safe assessment. As many are in favor of increasing the police
salary. After requesting that this discussion be tabled for another meeting, he
opens the floor up to audience comments.
Audience Comments:
Margaret Pope: Has an issue with speed limit as well as a hole that is in front of
her shop that she wants fixed. Alcohol bottles were left in her flower bed, feels that
people leaving the bars with open containers is a safety concern.
Pam Shea: Brought in documents from members of the community. She discussed
multiple issues that have been going on in the village and that if a security guard
is approved, she will ask the agency to update the special events policy to save
$12,000.
Joshua Dudl ey: Spoke of incidents he had where people were threatening his
family and livelihood. Someone demanded money from his store and threatened
to break windows.
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Alisa Otto: Owns Trekalla 315 second floor and discussed her experiences with
the homeless issue. Says that people respect police but does no t think they will
respect security. Believes that investing in these issues needs to be at the forefront
of the CRA.
Bruce Reigl: Owns Village Art Gallery and has had issues a few times with clients
feeling unsafe walking to their cars. Now he knows the police can be easily
accessible so that may help him. He feels that something needs to be done during
the day instead of just at night to improve security.
Alex Greenwood is in favor of armed security due to issue with noise that has come
from his tenants. He agrees with statements previously made by Agency Members
Rogers and Goins. Greenwood also believes that we need to advertise the parking
lot and security systems.
Agency Member Etz then stated that whatever we do will take time, so in the
meantime she asks that there be more police presence in the village. Agency
Member Rogers agrees with Agency Member Etz’s statements.
Chairperson Blake then made a motion to table this discussion for another time.
Which was seconded by Vice Chairperson Weeks, and it passed unanimously.
Letters from Pam Shea
- Exhibit A: Letter from Stacie Hart Sidwell (Letter found attached)
- Exhibit B: Letter from Bethany MacArthur (Letter found attached)
- Exhibit C: Letter from Scherri Gollehon (Letter found attached)
- Exhibit D: Letter from Frances Spina (Letter found attached)
* MOTION by Chairperson BLAKE Seconded by Vice Chairperson WEEKS to
table this vote for another time.
AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS. PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY
VI. ATTORNEY REPORT: None
VII. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS:
Director Neuterman stated that we will work on getting a nightlife workshop for
November.
VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE:
Monday, October 6, 2025, at 6:00 pm in the Council Chambers located in Cocoa
City Hall, 65 Stone Street, Cocoa, Florida.
IX. ADJOURNMENT:
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* MOTION by Vice Chairperson WEEKS; Seconded by Agency Member ETZ to
adjourn the Special meeting of September 9, 2025.
AYES: BLAKE, ETZ, GOINS, HEARN, KOSS, ROGERS, WEEKS.
THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)
The meeting adjourned at 5:42 p.m.
________________________________
Michael C. Blake, Chairperson
Respectfully Submitted by:
______________________________
Peyton Fink, Recording Secretary
Agenda (the City's wording)
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I. CALL TO ORDER
1. Invocation
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Roll Call
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND MINUTES
1. Agenda: Special Meeting of the Cocoa CRA held on Tuesday, September 9, 2025.
2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of the Cocoa CRA held on Monday, August 4th, 2025
III. DELEGATIONS
IV. PRESENTATIONS
V. ACTION ITEMS
1. Request Agency approval for option one or two on a quote provided by Allied Universal Security Services to have a security guard in the Cocoa Village, effective October 2025 to September 2026. Option one is for an unarmed security guard for 92 hours a week at an annual rate of $127,254.40. While option two is for an armed security guard for 92 hours a week at an annual rate of $147,347.20.
2. Request Agency approval of a Commercial Façade Improvement Program (CFIP) grant application to award an amount not to exceed $10,000 for the property located at 501 Florida Avenue and authorize the City Manager to complete and execute a CFIP Agreement. — 00:16:41
VI. ATTORNEY’S REPORT
VII. UPDATES AND STAFF REPORTS
VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE - October 6, 2025 at 6:00 PM
IX. ADJOURNMENT
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Agency members Rogers shared a story about a business, the backyard, who applied for variances and exceptions. All but one were approved by the Board of Adjustment. The backyard, however, was allowed to serve wine or beer if hosting a private special event. The residents disagreed with the BOA decisions and filed an appeal. The applicant failed to prove compatibility with the surrounding uses, while the residents won the appeal.
need to have it read that way because the way it reads, it's got the, um, the applicant winning the appeal to ‸ front of the BOA. It's kind of mixed up.
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No. In fact, I didn't know how to defer ‸ until the end of the meeting or to table my, it's not on any of the items on your agenda. It is just public comments.
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Okay. Can everyone hear me now? Yes, ma'am. Okay. For the purpose, I guess, of the video. ‸ But anyway, thank you for convening such a meeting. It's been a minute since I've been here before your illustrious body. I first want to give public condolences to our mayor through his deceased beloved father. You were in our prayers. My family lifted you up in that. And I took the liberty of going out in the community, being a new citizen of this city, to see the legacy that Senior Blake had left.
but I felt his presence and I never got to meet him. So I want to say that on the public record. I wish all of you well, though I wasn't here at any of the deliberations, but you guys were in my thoughts and in my prayers. It's such a privilege as civil servants and ‸ elected body to represent people and to serve their interests at large. So I just wanted to put that on the record. Though I was not here,
my thoughts. So I wanted to just put that as a public announcement from myself. Try to be more diligent in being involved because we can't do it in and of ourselves.
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needs to be dealt with. I'm going to tell you a couple situations that we've had within the past month, and this is just a few. We had a lady that came into our store crying and shaking ‸ in total fear of a man that was stalking her. She came in begging for help. We calmed her down. We called her friends, and they had to come pick her up. They were visiting from Tennessee. She was on a retirement celebration trip.
That cost us some sales. The night of the Hot Pink concert, a lot of people, and that was August 23rd. Several people line up in front of my store to get ready to go into the concert, and there was a lady there panhandling, asking for money. If they did not give her money or did not like their answers, she started cursing profanities at them.
his tires, which he moved his car because of this. So that didn't make the place look good. In fact, the one gentleman said to me, what is the village coming to?
and they spend $600-plus in my store. It's been a horrible summer, and nobody can tell you that it's been a good summer down the village. $600. She called me last week and told me, don't put in the order. We won't be coming as of what happened last time they were here. There was ladies, ‸ and I asked her what it was about. What happened?
were in there, and they could not get by him. They felt trapped. The other ladies were eating ice cream, and there were two men over the gazebo making crude comments and gestures. And then the other ladies were going to their car when they had a man and a woman follow them to their car and asked for money, and they would not give it to them.
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That cost me $600, which I desperately need right now. Last Thursday, my business partner, Mary Lee, was in the store by herself, and a homeless man walked in, and he started rambling on about absolutely nothing. She was sort of scared to say anything to him because she was by herself.
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I'm sorry. He walked in with his tour and he said, I will stay with you until he leaves. And he did. And then he called me on my cell and asked me to go check on her. She was frightened.
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I'm sorry. I'm asking for something to be done or at least help for us to work together. It's really important because this summer was so bad, and I know everybody has a story and ‸ everybody has issues, but we need the income to come into the village to keep our stores alive, to make customers happy, to pay taxes, and pay our rent, which is very high.
Request ‸ agency approval of the commercial facade improvement program CFIP grant application to award an amount not to exceed $10,000 for the property located at 501 Florida Avenue and authorize the
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes. Sean Roberts, who is the owner of Roberts Buildings, the building located at 501 Florida Avenue, which is directly across the street here from City Hall, which is the blue house that we all know and love as it's been here for many, many years. They have submitted a commercial facade improvement program grant application to be awarded an amount not to exceed $10,000. The total scope of his work is in excess of $50,000, and the work is relevant to the facade grant,
So the applicant is requesting $10,000 grant from the city. The proposed renovation work includes the following. Remove some of the damaged siding around the exterior of the building and replace it with new siding. Replace the skirting around the exterior of the building to secure and remove termite damage. To remove and replace trim on the exterior corners of the building and repair steps and ramp going up to the decks on the first and second floor. Replace the railings on the handicap ramp and the ground floor deck. Exterior wood columns and trim repaint. Exterior wood stairs repaint. Caulking and sealing exterior siding up to 40 tubes of silicone caulking and then the general conditions.
requesting grant funds to be awarded pursuant to the facade. Improvement program policy. The amount of any grant shall be determined at the board's description based on the following factors. The estimated value of the proposed investment. The extent that the private investment incorporates more primary improvements versus ancillary improvements. The historical and cultural significance of the property. The potential economic and fiscal impact of the proposed project. And whether the applicant is a for-profit or non-profit entity. The applicant has met all of the qualifications for the application. And staff is requesting approval of a grant application for an amount not to exceed $10,000.
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Okay. Could he come to the podium, please? Then I have a card from the wood that's green.
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‸ My name is Sean Roberts. I wanted to be here tonight to do a couple of things. One, thank you all for having this program. I can't tell you how expensive it is to maintain these old buildings, especially when it's 137 years old and wood. And then I also wanted to be here to ‸ speak to any questions that you have about my application. So in terms of the application, you've kind of heard Ms. Charlene describe ‸ what I'm doing over there. And you can see I'm adding a facade or the roof over the second floor to try to keep some of the water and so forth off. Since I moved
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It's been about 15 years ago now because it used to be down by the park.
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They're very, very aggressive and they're not the normal eastern termites. It was so bad that the termite company came and they wanted other offices of their termite company to come and look at them.
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You know, that old cool character and being right here across from City Hall. But, you know, and the process, I do want to say, not only is the program great, but the process has been not very difficult to go through.
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You know, I just stopped in and started talking to them. They helped me, got me an application, sent a couple emails, hear right back from them and so forth. So, you know, just want to acknowledge that and appreciate the opportunity to apply.
Well, fantastic. Thank you for investing in the community of the downtown area, sir. I think it's a very wise and safe investment, sir. And I thank you for standing behind your product, your property.
You got a motion on the floor? Second. Second. Okay. We have a discussion because I got a card. You may have a seat, Mr. Sean. Thank you very much. Mr. Greenwood, sir.
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has several other properties that's been a major asset to the downtown Cocoa Village area. He also is one of the commercial property group that I represent. And also he was one of the members that had a concern about the bar at 638 Farm Bureau that was part of the appeal.
I certainly am glad to hear that there's a motion in a second. I hope it gets approved because this is not his only project. He's been a major contributor to Cocoa Village. And I hope you all give him the support. Thank you.
Now you can sit down, sir. Thank you. Okay. Proceeding on to our last action item for tonight. Please be mindful that you have three minutes to expound on this particular action item. It's requesting agency approval for option number one or option number two on a quote provided by Ally Universal Security Services to have a security guard in the Cocoa Village effective October 2025 to September ‸ 2026. Option one is for an unarmed security guard for 92 hours a week and
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‸ Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The first item I would like to mention is for the direction by the agency tonight that we are looking for direction on option one or two to authorize the city manager to negotiate the agreement and contract with allied universal security services. So once that option is selected that we're asking for the agency to authorize the city manager to negotiate that contract, which we will bring back to the agency at a later meeting. So I wanted to get that out right now before we started with the presentation. So we received a quote by allied universal security services, and they are the same security company that provides the security here in city hall. And so we already have a contract with ‸ city council, with that city council authorized for the city hall security. So we wanted to receive quotes from them on the quote. Two options were provided. Both of these options have the same schedule, which is provided in the agenda item. The first option was for an unarmed security guard, and that unarmed security guard would be paid at a rate of $26.60 an hour,
to monitor the noise levels throughout the CRA. They are currently, like I said, we are currently under contract with them, and the times, I will go over each of those times. So it's 92 hours per week, and we base those hours on the busyness of the village at certain times of the day and certain times during the week. Whereas knowing on Monday, many of the businesses and shops and restaurants are not open on Mondays, so we only have hours from noon to 8 p.m., which is primarily the more busy time of the day for Mondays. Tuesdays would be 10 a.m. to 10 p.m., which is a 12-hour shift. Wednesdays would also be 10 to 10. Thursdays would be 10 a.m. to midnight.
3 a.m. Saturdays would also be 10 a.m. to 3 a.m. And Sundays would be 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. So we're seeking agency direction on which option would be most likely to be approved by you and which one would you would prefer, and then to ask the city manager to negotiate that contract with Allied Universal Securities. And we're available for any questions, should you have any, sir.
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be multiple officers, but those are the shifts that one officer will only be assigned during those hours. Oh. But it could be different officers every day because that's 92 hours and obviously one person isn't going to work 92 hours in a week.
Friday and Saturday hours go late, like theoretically the same hours that we budget $100,000 for the police department to cover. Now, is this in this security officer during those hours in instead of the police that we pay for or in addition to?
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I mean, how obviously there are things going on in the village now and whatever we decide something needs to be done soon. How quickly will this get started?
we would have to get, uh, go through the purchasing protocols that we have through the city. So I would say 45 to 60 days, regardless of what happens. Wow. Okay. Thank you. At a minimum.
it's like an either or, and I'm not real happy with either or, uh, whether you use a security guard or officer. I feel we're missing a foundation that would make either one more successful or successful.
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department, the fire department. So it's a pretty different, uh, program than what just walking somebody back and forth. Um, I don't feel, you know, the homeless problem is complex. It's difficult. And I don't think it's a security. Uh, the police can't address it. I think a social worker is more appropriate and whatever the county can help us with. But as far as walking people to the cars and doing that sort of thing, I think we can do volunteers or V cops. And today, uh,
and everybody seemed very willing to step forward. And an hour of volunteer work would be a big help, but that's not going to really solve the problem. What I see here is that we structurally don't have a framework that's going to address what's happening in the daytime or at night. They're kind of two different things and I cannot imagine somebody being able to handle what's going on in the village right now.
So, um, we have many different businesses and at night they're all different. Some are restaurants, some are nightclubs, some are bars. We need to define what those businesses are so that we can address whether they need to have somebody ‸ security. How many people should be there based on the size crowd?
arms? There's a lot of little things that go along with that. But what we have is no classification. I think we need to update our zoning and our code so that we ‸ can establish these things. And then I think we need to say, if you're this type of business, these are the rules we're going to follow. And if you do not follow those and you have a violation, then there should be a consequence. So, you know, no consequence means it just is going to continue on. Um, we also need to ‸ decide what we're going to do with our private and our public parking lots. Some are just people are gathering in there and having a party at 2 or 2.30 in the morning and disturbing the peace. That's a liability for the owner of the property, I would think. If you shoot off a gun, that bullet's going to go up.
which everybody knows what the rules are and what we need to do. As far as the noise, which is a huge issue in the village, we have now set some decibel limits.
But I think we also need to look about, look at where is the speaker going to be placed? What direction is it going? And then have it reviewed before we permit it to be done so that we're not always going back and forth.
so that when we call in non-emergency calls, we can see if that call has been received. We can see where are the issues in the village or within ‸ the town, wherever.
they will, and I hopefully they will do that because I do not know if we're actually moving people out of the parking lots or just letting them take their time to get out. If they're not being cited with a violation or a fine, then they're just going to continue. So that's kind of where I'm at.
and something where everybody understands what we need to do. As far as the homelessness, uh, that's a big subject that I'm not qualified to really comment on. Uh, but if you're defecating or if you're using the city utility or if you're sleeping in the gazebo or you're doing drugs, then that needs to stop and the guard can't arrest you for doing that. And that's going on. We have one guy in an RV. He rotates around through the village. He parks. I know where he parks. I saw him for four days taking up
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So, um, you know, I feel like Mrs. Kravitz. So, you know, if I know, everybody knows. And it needs to stop because without consequences, it's going to continue. Thank you for listening.
So I think, uh, initially when I, when, um, Mr. Greenwood brought this to us, um, I think I was somewhat of a fan of the idea, but now I'm definitely not. I
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And, um, that was one of the concerns that we had here, I guess the last couple of months that citizens were complaining. They'll see the officers coming through, but they were not getting out of their cars, actually engaging some of the, uh, homeless people. Just kind of see what are the challenges. And so we put things in place where they're supposed to be stopping these individuals. And ‸ so what we've, what we've asked, um, business owners, if they, if they see something, they have to call us and let us know so that we can act accordingly. And so I hear things
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those things that you, that she brought up earlier, the business owner, like the stalking, did, did that, is that a report? Is that probably not a report? Like what, what is.
Yeah. So I heard she was saying that, uh, there was a homeless person stalking someone. Right. If we don't get the call, we don't know about it. There's no report generated.
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no. It's okay. It's okay. Uh, anything that, that you would like for us to try, we're open to, to take a look at, uh, but we would like to see the detail. But if you're saying having an off duty detail for just a downtown district, I mean, we can put something in place like that and just see, um, what type of, uh, bikes we'll get on that.
mean, currently when you look at the, uh, the detail that we have now, so currently the way the detail works is Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays. Uh, I
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which was that? Yeah. Yeah. This one. ‸ Get right here. Get to. ‸ So when we, when we schedule, when we put that out there for the officers, they have to sign up volunteer. There's contractual stuff that we, that we have to abide by. So they post it for officers to sign up for it. If an officer,
how do you attract the officers that want to sign that sign up for it so that, that it can be, you know, um, go as it, as it, as it is. And you know, how we, uh, planned it ‸ currently. So that's the challenge we're having now. So now you're saying that we already can't fill it with the two officers under three days. Now you're saying if you go into plan that's currently in place with the 96 hour, 92 hours for one security guard.
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The off duty situation is taking people away from their families. It's taking the people away from maybe something else. They maybe want to go vacation, whatever that may be for that weekend. Right. Or during that week.
if we can incentivize them with more pay, I'll be to, in my opinion, I trust our officers better than I trust any security guard. And so I want to get our officers, these funds that I'm looking at for this one officer, or I mean, one police, uh, one security guard,
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up being, but I would rather pay. In my opinion, I would rather pay our police officers that, that extra pay. And I think that will, and I correct me if I'm wrong. Um, I think I know I work every day. And if my daddy tell me double time, my daddy tell me, he going to pay me 15, 20 more dollars. I'm coming to work.
route first, not throw this away, but just look at it as a whole for maybe for a few months to see if we can attract more officers to work these 92 and see what that and see if we can do it. You know, if it's, but you may have to go to your guys and say, Hey, look, what does that look like for you? Is that eight more dollars that 10 more dollars? What is that? ‸ What are they making right now?
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obviously, because it's a time and a half job, those are the ones that typically are more attracted to these jobs. But we need more of the younger officers. Okay.
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board, I, I really don't want to commit me. I don't want to commit to this. I would love to go that route. And if that means, I do a lot of events. And when I say,
Plus I got another administrator fee on top of that. And so those guys are getting out the door, $52 an hour or 53, whatever that might be. And so I would, again, I would be willing to commit that amount to our guys instead of going to security guard
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allocation for our. Our funding for the CRA is there, is there a quota or is there a limit in which we can, um, allocate for sick, uh, in reference of having that coverage, that police coverage, I
would have to, in order to do a police officer for 92 hours in a, in a week, I would need to work with finance on that number because it's salary plus benefits. So it's not the, the $42 an hour. It would be benefits as well that are included in that. Um, keeping in mind when we did the three days, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, it was 15 hours.
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So you just do the percentage increase. If you're saying 53 or 54, whatever percentage increase on top of that, if the question is, can the CRA budget handle that? It's probably yes.
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So that will be an astronomical fee too as well. So my question is, is either you pay me now or you're going to pay me later, but you're going to pay me. That's all I'm saying. Looking at this one last question. If a person, um, if none of our men and women would not want to do the overtime or the detail, can other agencies say Rockledge or even Titusville call and support this? I'm just asking. Or the county? I think that came up.
out there because they have more officers available that's out there that may be willing to come and work. I mean, could you look at some of the big events that we may have in our city?
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you'd have to have some sort of agreement with them, um, with those other agencies, some either interlocal or mutual aid agreement, but some sort of agreement, um, similar to probably what the CRA had with the Cocoa police department. Remember that's, that's, that was the agreement. So I would think you would have to have something similar in place with those other agencies to allow them to work the detail.
making 26 something. Yeah, 27. Okay. So why are we not hiring police officer at that rate just for Cocoa village versus because it's the same amount we'd be paying for, for a security guard. So why can't we do that? Why is it always overtime?
officers. We deploy officers in the areas that's, that has the greater needs based on our crime stats, our crime stats in other places than just the village.
Okay. Well, the personnel that you have, but if we hired just again with the, with the caveat of somebody, uh, only being assigned, that wouldn't be overtime because this is their job to, and you know, how, I don't know how you,
whatever the average starting pay is or whatever the average pay is, we have vacancies that are available to, uh, to hire officers in, into those, uh, vacant slots. We've been doing a good job and, and, uh, hiring and filling those vacancies. But again, we're competing against the sheriff's department, every other city there. And so that's, that's, that's, that's, it is what it is with regards to being able to, to hire people in right now.
I don't know if that's a union contractual issues. It's so it's in the contract. So we'd have to go back and actually do some negotiating with the union. Now they, they wouldn't have a problem accepting more as the, uh, as the, um, the detail pay. So, but again, back to just simply hiring another officer and remember that the, the city budget proposal does have one officer in there. ‸ We didn't propose more because again, why propose five when you can't hire in five?
‸ our vacancies. But again, we're just like every other police department in the state and the nation there. Again, it's, uh, it's those, those, those, uh, bodies are tough to come by.
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uh, ‸ but if you paid a little more than what their standard rate is, it might be easier to get somebody who is just assigned, I'm just throwing it out there.
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I, I feel like I would prefer it be a police officer to an armed security person who can't arrest, can't do anything. All they're going to do is call the police.
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trying to find a way that we can, uh, can do it with police officers over the, over the, uh, security guards. And, um, cause I, again, I would rather have it see it be a police officer than security. But if we can't get a designated person, um, fire, I mean, police officer, then we almost have to do a security because we gotta have something down there. But I just, that's my thoughts on it.
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Yeah. Well, like the others, I'm definitely in favor of the, um, the uniformed officer and particularly having a cocoa officer that's actually building relationships, actually understanding some of the folks out there that they have to deal with. But one of the points I had a question about, um, off duty officers, because, um, Charlene was saying,
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have to add a percentage of benefits and, uh, on top of that. But if they're already working for us, aren't they already, don't they already have the benefit package? I don't understand why that's in
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Rogers said about having, um, you know, a structure and really identifying, um, where we have some business responsibility as well. Um, I think that that has to be part and parcel with this to really be effective. And, um, I hope if we're looking at, and I do, I also appreciate, uh,
Well, what's, what does, what's, what's the, we, we've talked about, remember more than a few years ago, we talked about actually, uh, charging the, uh, the businesses. Remember
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and so it's full circle also recall, recall that you guys actually asked or directed us to, to bring back a workshop on, on the nightlife there. And so all of this, all of these issues will be discussed in,
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you know, and so I wrote the quote down that we need to have law and order. Well, we do have law and order, you know, and so, and so, you know, I gotta, gotta take exception to that because, because they, they've been very responsive. Again, uh, Mrs. Rogers hit it on the head. The, the, the,
homeless issue is much more complicated than, than any of us can solve in any one, uh, discussion there. But, but just in terms of what their protocol is with regards to responding to folks who come into your shop to
in public places. And so, and so we do have that as a, as a, as a backstop for, for folks, uh, sleeping in the village overnight. You know, I get a little concerned when, when we,
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so, and so again, you know, but, but again, the state has, I mean, what is it now? Two legislative sessions now that they, they passed that, uh, legislation where you can't sleep in public places there, but they need to talk about again, just for the benefit of the business owners and the public. You know,
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homelessness, there's noise. There's a, there's a law enforcement. And so, uh, there's parking. Remember all of those, all of those issues there. So it's going to take some time to, to put that together.
uh, the commander is going to kind of talk about when we have situation that may, that we learn about that occurs at night at the village, large events or something like that, how we handle those things. So,
We believe, and these officers work really hard to keep this city safe. I mean, you can see that the numbers itself over the last four and a half years, since we've changed leadership, we've had a crime reduction in the whole city. And so they continue to work real hard to make the city safe. These officers take this stuff real serious when they're out here working. And, uh, we're
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This is a slippery slope when you deal with homelessness. You, you can't just assume that somebody is homeless, like the city manager stated how they're addressed.
of how to engage individuals that may appear to be down on their luck on some type of substance abuse in the need of some type of social services help, whatever it might be. We train our officers to recognize those things and they go and they engage those individuals. They'll, they'll write what we call contact cards on them so that we can make sure that we, if we ever come in contact with them again, or
So that if we ever need them or need to find them, we can find them. So we, we, we, uh, document information about people and then we provide them, offering them services. We do that. Then we contact other social services entities. If they say they need some help, we bring the help to them. And so a lot of times when
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on the bench, not doing anything. What ‸ you going to say? You need to leave. Well, we got another family out there in the same little area. They might not be dressed as nice, but they, we see them with their kids and they, the kids over there playing, but
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if you see a criminal act, you act accordingly. If you need some help, you call some people to come in, more officers, more supervisors to come in and help you. So we have a plan in places. That's how we work. So now the commander is going to kind of talk about some of the things that, that may occur in the village that we, we're not going to tell you about our tactics, but we are very proactive in learning about things that may happen anywhere in
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now. Go ahead. So when we, when we have an event, everybody knows social media, everything goes out on social media. So we have an analyst that actually is, she's got her office. She's got a computer. She's surfing the web.
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we immediately start planning our situation. Um, sometimes the plans you will see police ‸ officers out there. Sometimes you will not see us out there, but we're out there. We put together a whole ops plan on what we do. We write it down and we make sure we disseminate that to our lieutenants
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Everybody knows how that works on the, on the internet. Yeah. Cause not everybody knows about the internet, but you have your interested. You have the ones that are saying that they're going and we monitor that. So not only that, but we also keep in contact with the
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us to where that we could, if we have to adjust our ops plans or just our tactics. So we are digitally or diligently working in the background and make sure that we are protected and we are making sure that this is a controlled environment and that we're there to make sure that our patrons are safe and also our businesses as well.
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I, if there is an aggressive panhandler in my shop right outside of my shop? What do I do in that instance? And then what do I do if I'm closing up my shop and I just don't feel safe walking to my car? Okay. So
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wait just a little bit, wait till we get an officer there. We'll walk you out. I tell everybody that's what we're here for. Our we're public servant. We're here to help people and keep everybody safe.
And just to kind of add a little bit more to that. So, because I've been to a lot of the downtown district meetings and we've kind of send this share the same message that when you have individuals that you feel like is about to commit a crime is committing a crime, you have to call us.
is because what I just didn't want to call. But then people, the same people come here for public record and say, Oh, this situation happened. Police didn't do anything. That's unfair to us when we're not even getting called to even come. We have to get those calls. We can't tell you enough. When we did recently, we did a walk in Cocoa Village and we talked several business owners. Some are mad at me now, though, because I didn't talk to all of them because we didn't walk the entire village. So we're going to get the other side later. But with that being said, we educated them and told them some misconceptions that may be out there. And they were very appreciative that we reminded them of how to notify the police when you have situations come up.
If you're uncomfortable, call us. And if these officers don't do what they're supposed to do, ‸ they're repercussions. And so when you call in, it's recorded on the line.
We're going to look into it. We can pull the tape and see exactly how that conversation went. OK, but we can't stress that we want to help you want to support you, but you got to give us an opportunity to
So I noticed it's a big thing about, well, certain businesses are the patrons. They're playing loud music when they're leaving. OK. You're going to have some loud music situations. Let's just go and face the facts.
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venues. What we're out here ‸ for, I'm just going to be as transparent as possible. I know Ms. Candace appreciate this because she talked about transparency. We're there to make sure nobody gets shot and killed. That's our number one priority. We don't want nobody to get hurt. And so if we can move these people along and get them out
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close or whatever, 2 a.m. in the morning or whatever the time the time frame is, and we can get them out of there and they booming their music on the way out the city and they moving on. Hey, keep on moving because we don't
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And so, but here's what I can tell you with confidence. Every time my officers ask those individuals to turn their music down, they turn their music down. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you that when they have those large events that you're not going to hear any music. But after 2 a.m.
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know, they're still there hanging out. You know, what can we do there? Well, so we need to look at those things because there's some things we can do as
as we have authority by the business owner, whoever owns that that ‸ particular ‸ parking lot. So those are the other additional strategies that we're looking at. You know, moving people along safely.
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Nobody getting hurt. Warning people about the loud music to move along, turn it down, move up, move along. And I'm telling majority of people, they move along and we have a comprehensive plan that we put together to address these things. When we know there's a large event that's going to occur in our city. We're very proactive. And you should be proud of your police officers when you when you ‸ when you hear about
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‸ Now be mindful. ‸ We do have council meeting at 530. I do have seven, eight cards in front of me. So we need to wrap this up. ‸ I'm coming to you. I'm coming to you.
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‸ okay. The CRA agency is authorized to spend money as provided in the CRA plan, right? We're only authorized to spend money based on the plan. And if you recall, there was an interlocal that between the city and the CRA to authorize the community policing and expenditures for that previously in 2022.
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And so in fact, what would happen or what would need to happen if you are inclined to ‸ choose one of these options would be that we would bring back an interlocal agreement between the city and the CRA. And it would be the CRA would be funding the community policing that, you know, option that you choose.
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the security company, let's say an incident appeared and there was a lawsuit filed. Who would be on the hook for that suit? The security company or the city to take on that liability?
Well, of course, of course, that would be a concern. We would do everything possible to in that agreement with the security company, you know, require them to indemnify the city for their negligence. But, you know, certainly we can't prevent someone from suing the city, but we would do everything we could to, you know, protect the city in the contract that we came up with.
Okay. So my next addition to this matter, I think the additional monies that would be put forward if we were to contract with the security company. I like the idea of possibly putting more money in the pot for the officers, giving them a raise for that overtime that they would work. I certainly like that idea. As well, we know that the village is growing as far as our parking lots are growing from the south all the way up to the north.
have under good surveillance. So could we take some of that money as well that we would have put up for the security and maybe get more cameras outside of those new areas that are now being utilized? I've seen a number of security technology that's been advertised at some of the conventions that we went to, ‸ Florida League of City conferences and stuff.
If there was an incident, ‸ a citizen can just pick up the phone and make a call, you know. And you would probably wonder why would someone need to use a phone on a pole, but if someone was mugged for some reason, they lost their phone for any reason, they could pick up that phone and get in touch with the police department and there's a camera in those locations.
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Your light is on? Yeah. It's been on. My light is on. Okay. Now be mindful. We do need to hear from the people from the audience because we must set up for our 6 p.m. meeting. Okay.
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for the police. So give them the extra 47,000. That is another 50% increase where perhaps we could have more police at other times in the village to cover some of these other times. Maybe we can't cover all of them, but at least if we're getting if we're paying
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Friday, Saturday and Sunday, then Thursday. Yeah, that may be perhaps we could pay some extra overtime for them to cover some of the other spots because
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get us a lot more coverage with police officers who can actually intervene better than I think a security guard could. So me personally, I would make a motion to that effect. Okay.
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me out first so that we can collect that data, get the information. We will hear from you from the audience and this will give us a chance to acquire all the information and make a proper and safe assessment. Because clearly you have the understanding that ‸ we are geared toward providing additional funds for additional police officers.
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So with the same intensity and the same feelings, robust communication that we're having and report will give us the opportunity to continue with this. So that is the reason why I'm saying let me hear from the audience because they've been sitting there patiently. Okay. ‸ And we have to get this prepared and then I'll chair ‸ make a motion to table this issue and bring it back after we accumulate and all information. ‸ I will
Okay. Thank you. All right. You got that? Payton, you have that young man? Yes, sir. Okay. And then second by Vice Chairperson, agency member Weeks. Yes, sir. To table this and bring back the information. Mackenzie McGraw. Is that right?
I'm Myra Pope, and I have an antique shop here on Stone Street. I have a couple of issues I'm very concerned about that I think are all three public safety issues. One of them is
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something to be done to make it more visible. The way people come down that hill is scary because the parking lot, which a lot of people here from the City Hall use right now, it's where our customers park and they're walking across that street. There is no crosswalk and like I said most people
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difficult for them. So I think that's a really serious safety issue for the whole village. My second safety issue is there's a hole in the street in front of my shop.
and I spoke to somebody at Public Works about it and the two gentlemen who looked at it, they put some more gravel in it. They told me they were told that they could not fill the hole and repave it because they didn't know who cut the hole in the street or why. Meanwhile, this hole is growing. There's more and more of the pavement falling into the hole. My shop's at 19 Stone Street.
it's right there in front of my window every time i see somebody park there I worry that they're going to trip and fall as they get out of their car. I think it's very serious. it's I mean, it may sound petty, but I don't think it is. I think it's a serious health risk. And we have a lot of people, cross you know, trying to cross the street or get out of their car right in front of my shop. And
out of their car. And my last one has to do with the exhibits I brought with me tonight. Part of this is just an annoyance. Me cleaning the flower beds in front of my shop on Saturday, Sunday and sometimes Monday mornings, that's just an annoyance. The fact that people are leaving the bars with open containers on a regular basis is more than annoyance to me. They're leaving the bars with open containers, drinking as they go down the street to get in their car. Now, how many of them threw them in my flower bed and how many of them continue to drink as they got in that car? I don't think that's a minor thing. Like I said, me picking the stuff up and throwing it away is. I used to take this back to the bar it came from. Now
was told by a police officer that it was a fire department issue. I don't think open containers are. How many people are in the bar might be? My exit sign, my fire extinguishers, those are fire department issues. I think this is not a fire department issue.
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week to include the Secretary of State, the governor, along with other state officials. Instead, I'm standing here with letters that have been turned into Charlene, emails, text messages, post videos, and photos of the grave sadness that our village is dealing with today. A few months ago, I sent an idea of what the businesses wanted to help with to keep our village safe for our shoppers and the business owners to Chief Collier and
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especially me. Unfortunately for us, it fell off the radar, and we are now back in our crisis mode of operation, which you've already heard. Over the past two weeks alone, numerous
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my message on that one, okay? Because I did ask your uh dispatch officer to read that out loud to you, because it is not pretty, my my words. Drug dealings. I'm so tired of that drug dealer across the street from me, I'm dealing with him myself. Screaming and blocking the streets. Entering businesses. You've already heard about that. Aggressively. Harassing shoppers. Shoppers. Shoppers out. Screaming. Foul language. Entering businesses. You've already heard about that. Fondling
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little private areas in public. Following the shop owners to the cars. Shoppers ‸ afraid to walk six feet. I want you to think about that. Six feet to a store. Nightlife. Drinking. Crowds. Shots fired.
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does come and they are being reactive because we are calling. The city staff has recommended unarmed or potentially armed security guards. As you guys have all discussed, this is not our answer. This cannot be our answer. In each of these situations, what can a security guard do for us? They can't do anything. They're going
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gotten so bad right now. He's calling me. He knows who I am. ‸ I personally... I'm finishing, Mr. Mayor. So, but we deserve this time. uh If the agency votes to approve the security guard, then I'm going to ask the city to see, to please update the special events policy so that
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All right, Mr. Mayor. We want the officers. You've seen my emails. Mr. Mayor, one more thing. and you You need to know this. I have contacted the Secretary of State and I've also talked to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Agency. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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Hi, everybody. Thank you for having me. Really appreciate it. um Just speaking on the same things that we've already covered with so many people. First of all, thank you, gentlemen. You guys do a great job. I think we could all do a better job. um At this point, i've I homeschool inside my business also. I have had to turn away violent approaches that I don't call aggressive hand hand handling I feel as though that's a cop-out. These people have threatened my business and my family, my livelihood, basically everything I've put into
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that has very much since dwindled. But having somebody come into your shop and ask you for money, and when you tell him no, he threatens your business. He threatens to break windows, which I've had to replace. I don't know who broke them. I've had to replace windows. so it's It's unacceptable. It really is. um And at the end of the day, I really think that armed security guards, we all live in Florida. We're all Florida citizens. We all know the laws according to what's there.
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the second floor. So being on the second floor, you wouldn't think that I have many encounters with the homeless, but I do on a daily basis. I am very fortunate to have been
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personally benefited from the massive support um from this community. However, I feel like a lot of it is kind of putting the cart before the horse. I have um had several customers already. reminding I just moved in at the end of April. I've already had customers say they want to be back because of the homeless issue. I um produce all my clothing in my microfactory. I also teach sewing lessons to little kids to adults.
to try to help give people skills and give them something that they can potentially take and earn a living with. Like, you just need to know three stitches and you're good. um So I've had people that have had free opportunities and they see the homeless situation and they do not come into my microfactory. um I am here all the time. um And more often than not, there is a constant smell of weed um coming up the stairs into our building. If I don't smell it, I think there's something wrong. That's how often it happens. um i think kind of i've been happy that the police have been showing up they have been responding but i think my final straw was when someone popped a squat and relieved themselves on the um the sidewalk. I think that's unacceptable.
um from the homeless people. So I understand, you know, budgets. I understand that we have restraints. um But the CRA exists to invest in our community. And I think that that needs to be at the forefront. There's no point in investing in more events, more buildings, all this stuff if people don't feel safe coming here. So thank you.
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I'd like to mention is, you know, a lot of my artists and and authors are are elderly. Some are handicapped. um ‸ makes it difficult for them to get to the parking lot, to the gallery, and and back to their cars again. Sometimes they're carrying artwork or other things. um But um I've had issues with, uh you know, when it's it's later in the evening, like
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o'clock, they are they come back to me and they say, iI can't leave. You know, there's people right outside, right around the corner. yeah I don't feel good about walking to my car. You know,
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and maybe have an officer come, you know, about the time that um that we're ending an event um and have them come and and hang out for a few minutes, that would be helpful. um There seems to be a lot of focus on on uh added police department uh ‸ added police officers ‸ between 10 p.m and 2 a.m but i didn't hear any mention about most of us are working during the day and to early evening. You know, what's what's going to happen? What about additional officers for that time frame? We're not all, we're not all bar owners, so, um
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a lot of customers from Orlando, um you know, coming off cruise ships and things like that. And, um you know, that's all happening during the day, that's not happening after 10 p.m so i think something needs to happen to improve security during the day and early evenings as well um
my gallery, knocking over pedestals that I had to grab them and physically throw them out. um And, uh you know, I i just, I'm not going to put up with, uh with my, my artists being jeopardized, you know,
for having the courage, Mr. Bruce, to come forward and convey your thoughts. And I applaud you all for having the courage, everyone in the audience. And
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Thank you, sir. Very quickly. um whatever we do, it's obvious, especially this goes along with your motion, which I support. um it's going to take some time. so in the meantime, can we please have more police presence, random visits, including stop and walks, because as responsive as the police department is, response isn't the same as presence. As far as the way our customers perceive the village. And I,
And it's been a terrifyingly slow summer. We need help. We need as many customers as we can get. And it it's, the nightlife is going to be fine. The nightlife, the people are going to come and drink and, and eat in restaurants and spend their time in the evenings. That's great. We need something during the day. So we would, I know, very much appreciate as much as you can do as far as scheduling or, or sending through a couple of stop and walks, you know, randomly so that people aren't expect the homeless people and the people who hang out aren't expecting at a certain time. And perhaps that would help alleviate some of the perception of the state of the village. Thank you. I
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I agree. That's why I think when we do get together in the workshop, we have to look at these two situations, night and day, differently. Because they actually are different. And have to be handled differently. So I do. I am listening. I hear you.
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The ideas that we're talking about are good. I like the fact that you're looking into additional police or maybe security guards, things like that. But I think because of the bottom line and the money, I think we should start with the security guards. You could go with them being armed if you want. But it's the presence of professionalism to keep from some of these issues from happening. I just hope that this is something that we could take care of as soon as possible. And Jan was right. We need them as at 10 o'clock. It's already too late. And over this recent weekend on a Sunday, a Sunday, I have tenants that rent
I called the police department. And this happens a lot. I'm sorry. We don't have anybody available to check it. We'll work on it as soon as somebody's free. The crime is definitely being taken care of. but they're spread too thin. It already was admitted. They don't have enough officers. But here's the deal. The presence is what's important. They'll be in the uniform. They can have a gun or not and say it's a little more money. But the bottom line is, I think that
of being there in presence early. But the most important thing is having some representation, because that's why we're experiencing what we have right now. These people don't see enforcement. They don't see a person with the uniform. And I really feel that we don't even need the security guards with a gun. I think that it's more of a one-on-one accommodating situation, that
department. And the security guard, if he's calling, that means the police department needs to be there. ASAP. It saves us money, but it gives us the presence. Now, the other thing that I want to mention is
‸ So does Alex. But Alex, you mentioned something about trust with security guards. You don't trust the security guards we got in the building department i mean
they did a very They do a very good job. There's no reason to lose trust there. The other thing is, is that we need to decide something and help be it, my final thing, be it the major thing to advertise. We need to advertise a grand opening of the new parking lot, new cameras, new lighting, security guard system,
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compared to a security guard sitting at‸ sitting at the table. So I just, just want to let you know, that's my, I just don't, I don't agree with that at all. but
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and i I believe no one should go through anything that's that feel threatened. I don't, but to your point, if there is no reports, you can't help. And so I think
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uh As in regards to the workshop, we will work on getting a schedule probably sometime in November in order for us to have an adequate enough time to uh advertise it. It would not happen in the next 30 days, but more than likely sometime in
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