City Council

City Council Meeting

Date: 2026-06-09
Status: Draft minutes and machine transcript available
Source: CivicClerk event #1290
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Draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file). The City has not posted the approved minutes as a separate file. The approving motion, “to approve the June 9, 2026 meeting minutes as written”, is in the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-10-13 agenda packet (2559_10_13_2026_Agenda_Packet.pdf, packet pp. 37–47; minutes p. 2).

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Attendance (the roll call)

Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Patricia Weeks
(Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Lori Chabot (Recording Secretary), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Katie Ennis (Utilities Deputy Director), Savi Pooran (HR Manager)
Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (18)

1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of June 9, 2026. (2026-342) — to approve the agenda as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 11–24
2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of April 14,2026. (2026-343) — to approve the April 14, 2026, meeting minutes as written (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 2, packet pp. 11–24
to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 4, packet pp. 11–24
1. Conduct a Public Hearing to obtain citizen input and comments on housing and community services needs and approve recommendations on the — to approve as recommended by staff on the FY 2026-2027 CDBG and HOME program funding (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 11–24
to approve, postponing this item to the next meeting (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 5, packet pp. 11–24
3. M-2 ZTA Large -Scale Commercial Recreation Centers and Gym and Fitness - 3095 Grissom Pkwy-CORRECTED LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT. (2026-409) — to approve M-2 ZTA Large -Scale Commercial Recreation Centers and Gym and Fitness - 3095 Grissom Pkwy (moved by Lavander Hearn, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 6, packet pp. 11–24
4. Uptown C-C Zoning Text Amendment to Add Optical Services (First Reading) (2026- 418) — to approve on first reading of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Cocoa, Brevard County, Florida; amending Appendix A, Article XI, Section 22 of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Cocoa to allow for Optical Services as a permitted use in the Uptown Neighbo rhood (UN) Subdistrict of the … (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 6, packet pp. 11–24
5. Grissom Parkway 1.29 Ac Annexation (Second Reading, POSTPONE to date certain of July 14, 2026, Council Meeting at 65 Stone St, Cocoa, FL — to approve Postponing the Grissom Parkway 1.29 Ac Annexation (Second 1 Zoning Text Amendment Optical Services Page 7 Reading, POSTPONE to date certain of July 14, 2026, Council Meeting at 65 Stone St, Cocoa, FL at 6pm.) (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 6, packet pp. 11–24
1. Consider the Appointment of JP Pauken and George Brown to fill two Regular Member vacancies on the Code Enforcement Board. (2026-457) — to approve George Brown for the seat through 2027 and JP Paukin to fill the seat to 2029 on the Code Enforcement Board (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 7, packet pp. 11–24
to approve engaging a specialized Engineer to prepare an independent study where Council can then evaluate the alternatives and the costs (the minutes print this motion after the heading “2. Council Direction on the implementation approach of flood mitigation measures on North Indian River Drive near Dixon”; the motion's own words do not name that item) (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 9, packet pp. 11–24
3. Consider the Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of $1,000. (2026-503) — to approve the Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of $1,000 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 9, packet pp. 11–24
1. Approval of Alternative Language for the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County Public Schools to donate to Cocoa High School for Sport — to approve the Alternative Language for the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County Public Schools to donate to Cocoa High School for Sports Improvements as noted above (moved by Alex Goins, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 11, packet pp. 11–24
2. Approve Resolution No. 2026 -046 amending the City of Cocoa Building Permit Fee Schedule to comply with the requirements of House Bill 80 — to approve Resolution No. 2026-046 amending the City of Cocoa Building Permit Fee Schedule to comply with the requirements of House Bill 803 (2026), effective July 1, 2026 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 11, packet pp. 11–24
3. Approval of the multi-year Law Enforcement and Fire Dispatch Services Agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and approval of — to approve the Interlocal Agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and approval of a BAF #26-074 for $70,000 to move dispatch equipment (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12, packet pp. 11–24
4. Approve A Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26-071 — to approve a Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26 -071-A-PD, in the amount of $12,902. Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number for a total amount of $25,804 Project number GR2602 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 12, packet pp. 11–24
5. Council approval to apply for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) - Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) — to approval to apply for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) - Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Program (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Lorraine Koss); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 13, packet pp. 11–24
6. Council approval to apply for the FY26 Safer Outcomes: Enhancing De -Escalation and Crisis Response Training for Law Enforcement - Suppor — to apply for the FY26 Safer Outcomes: Enhancing De-Escalation and Crisis Response Training for Law Enforcement - Support for Law Enforcement Agencies Program (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 13, packet pp. 11–24
to adjourn the Regular meeting of June 9, 2026 (moved by Patricia Weeks, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the draft minutes p. 14, packet pp. 11–24

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

$13,800 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Approve the Change Order to Kimley -Horn Task Order # 2025 -11.1 to Design and Permit London Ditch piping under the existing Continuing Services Agreement Q -23- 01-COC for $13,800 for additional Stormwater analysis.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$28,800 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Approve BAF # 26 -068-T for $28,800.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$15,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Approve the Project Contingency Resolution of $15,000 for a total project cost not to exceed $113,120.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$113,120 — Council: Consent agenda item 3, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented) — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Approve the Project Contingency Resolution of $15,000 for a total project cost not to exceed $113,120.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$107,616 — Council: Consent agenda item 6, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Council Approval to accept the revised Victim of Crime Act (VOCA) grant award for FY26 of $107,616, project number GR2601, grant number VOCA-C-2025-City of Cocoa Police Department -00181, and Approve a Resolution Amending the FY26 Budget, BAF#26-070-A for $4,777.00.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$4,777.00 — Council: Consent agenda item 6, approved with the Consent agenda (in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented). “Council Approval to accept the revised Victim of Crime Act (VOCA) grant award for FY26 of $107,616, project number GR2601, grant number VOCA-C-2025-City of Cocoa Police Department -00181, and Approve a Resolution Amending the FY26 Budget, BAF#26-070-A for $4,777.00.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$1,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “approve the Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of $1,000” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$70,000 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “approve the Interlocal Agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and approval of a BAF #26-074 for $70,000 to move dispatch equipment” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$12,902 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “approve a Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26 -071-A-PD, in the amount of $12,902.” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))
$25,804 — Council: in draft minutes not approved as written (not counted as adopted): decided in an adopted motion. “Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number for a total amount of $25,804 Project number GR2602” (motion result: CARRIED; the draft minutes printed for approval in the 2026-08-25 agenda packet (2473_08_25_2026_Ag; fiscal period not recorded) (draft minutes printed in the City's agenda packet of 2026-08-25, pp. 11–24; approved as written by the City Council according to the draft minutes of 2026-08-25 (that draft's own approval is not found in the records on file))

Draft minutes, as printed in a later agenda packet

Source: 2473_08_25_2026_Agenda_Packet.pdf, the agenda packet of the 2026-08-25 meeting, packet pp. 11–24; lines 411–978 of the City's text of that file. The packet's own page footers are left out below.

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MINUTES
City of Cocoa
Regular Meeting of The City Council
June 9, 2026
A Regular City Council Meeting was held on Tuesday, June 9, 2026, in Cocoa City
Hall, in City Council Chambers, located at 65 Stone Street, in Cocoa, Florida, 32922,
as publicly noticed.
I. Opening Matters:
Mayor Blake called the meeting to order at 6:08 p.m.

Councilmember Hearn provided the invocation, and Chief Lamm led the assembly in
the Pledge of Allegiance.

Councilmember Hearn asked for a moment of silence for Jewel Collins and Sue
Schmitt who passed away recently.

The City Clerk took the roll.

PRESENT: Michael C. Blake Mayor
Alex Goins Deputy Mayor
Lavander Hearn Councilmember
Lorraine Koss Councilmember
Patricia Weeks Councilmember
Anthony Garganese City Attorney
Stockton Whitten City Manager
Lori Chabot Recording Secretary

ABSENT:

OTHER STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:

Abigail Morgan, Public Works Director; Rebecca Bowman, Finance Director; Charlene
Neuterman, Community Services Director; Jonathan Lamm , Fire Chief; Evander
Collier, Police Chief; Katie Ennis, Utilities Deputy Director; Savi Pooran, HR Manager;

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Mary Humbert, Director of Business Systems and Innovation; Samantha Senger,
Communications & Economic Development Director ; Mitch Lawyer , Interim Chief
Technology Officer; and David Grissom, Helpdesk Support Tech.
II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes:
1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of June 9, 2026. (2026-342).

* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
approve the agenda as written.

THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of April 14,2026. (2026-343).

* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to
approve the April 14, 2026, meeting minutes as written.

THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)

III. Awards and Presentations:

Historic Cocoa Village Main Street Presentation (2026-475). (HCVMS)
President Pam Shaia and Executive Director Chris Stagman shared information about
an upcoming event. HCVMS will be hosting a conference to be held in Cocoa Village
and expect over 400 people to attend.
IV. Delegations:
Ms. Melissa Pope, Miss Cocoa Florida’s winner for 2026, spoke about her platform to
educate the community about the importance and need of blood donors.
Paul Kamas, Olive Street, Cocoa spoke about property taxes and his conversation
with Dr. Stephanie Haridopolis who is the interim US Surgeon General about the drive
to get children and adults off of electronics and encourage them to get outside.

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Mr. Kamus also asked staff for an update on ad valorum and non-ad valorum tax rates.
In response, Mayor Blake shared there is updated information on Cocoa’s website.
City Manager Whitten reiterated the Mayor’s comments. He added the Florida League
of Cities will also be putting out information.
Anita Gibson, Stone Street, Cocoa, provided an address and shared t hat there are
three mounds of furniture, bedding and other things, and asked for the city to get that
taken care of. Mayor Blake responded they have also heard about it from other
residents and they are addressing it.
V. Consent Agenda:

1. Approve FEMA's Contract Modification #3 for Fiske & Broadmoor Acres Drainage
Improvements Project increasing the budget for Construction and extend the period of
performance. (2026-415). (Public Works Director)

2. Approve Resolution 2026-039 and Release of Easements Agreements for Vacation of
certain Utility Easements between the City of Cocoa and Fortenberry Apartments
Venture, LP. (2026-422). (Utilities Director)

3. Approve the Change Order to Kimley -Horn Task Order # 2025 -11.1 to Design and
Permit London Ditch piping under the existing Continuing Services Agreement Q -23-
01-COC for $13,800 for additional Stormwater analysis. Approve BAF # 26 -068-T for
$28,800. Approve the Project Contingency Resolution of $15,000 for a total project cost
not to exceed $113,120. Authorize the City Manager to issue this and future change
orders as approved within the total project cost. (2026-424). (Public Works Director)

4. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY 2026 budget, BAF 26-058-A, to cover the costs
of the technical emergency declared at the February 19th special meeting. (2026-370).
(Finance Director)
5. Approval of the requested Street Closure outside the CBD. (2026 -428).
(Communications & Economic Development Director)
6. Council Approval to accept the revised Victim of Crime Act (VOCA) grant award for
FY26 of $107,616, project number GR2601, grant number VOCA-C-2025-City of Cocoa
Police Department -00181, and Approve a Resolution Amending the FY26 Budget,
BAF#26-070-A for $4,777.00. (2026-451). (Police Chief)
7. Approval of a multi -year purchase with Civic Plus for ADA document compliance
software from Feb 11, 2026 - Sep 30, 2027. Authorize CM to execute related

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agreements and amendments. (2026 -438). (Communications & Economic
Development Director)
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to approve
the Consent agenda.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
VI. Public Hearings:
1. Conduct a Public Hearing to obtain citizen input and comments on housing and
community services needs and approve recommendations on the FY 2026-2027 CDBG
and HOME program funding. (2026-372). (Community Services Director)

Mayor Blake thanked staff and committee members for all their work on this item. He
shared the value of getting the dollars to the agencies like Salvation Army , Aging
Matters, Family Promise and Central Brevard Sharing Center.
Ms. Neuterman provided a presentation, adding that each agency will receive roughly
$4,000. Agency representatives were present for questions.
Councilmember Koss asked about the Section 108 loan repayment and the amount of
interest. Ms. Neuterman replied it would be paid about 2030 – 2031 and is mandated.
Ms. Bowman added the interest rate is very low.
The representative of Aging Matters spoke about their mission and services they offer.
Their Meals on Wheels program is very busy.
Tara Pagliarinni of Family Promise thanked staff and shared a recent story of a family
that had just found a home. She added that the City’s funding is helping the families.
Cindy Mitchell of Salvation Domestic Violence Center , serves domestic violence
survivors providing basic needs, counseling, relocations, housing assistance and
emergency shelters. Food is also purchased by the funds received and they feed over
300 survivors per year.
Mayor Blake asked about a new building under construction on their property. She
replied it will be a mobile kitchen for emergency disasters.
Councilmember Koss asked how many beds were available, and she replied there were
26 beds as well as trundles, pack and plays, etc.

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With $16,319.25 available funds to support public services, the committee’s
recommendations are as follows:
• Central Brevard Sharing Center $4,079.81
• Community Services Council $4,079.81
• Family Promise of Brevard - $4,079.81
• Salvation Army DV Shelter - $4,079.82
Mayor Blake opened the hearing up for public comment. There being no questions or
comments, the public portion of the Hearing was closed and returned to Council.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Hearn to
approve as recommended by staff on the FY 2026-2027 CDBG and HOME program
funding.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
2. 3600 Grissom Pkway Comp Plan Amendment. (POSTPONED) (2026-376). (Planner)
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing for public comment. There being no questions or
comments, the public portion of the Hearing was closed and returned to Council.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
approve, postponing this item to the next meeting.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
3. M-2 ZTA Large -Scale Commercial Recreation Centers and Gym and Fitness - 3095
Grissom Pkwy-CORRECTED LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT. (2026-409). (Planner)
Attorney Garganese read the item stating this was the second reading. Ms. Webster
added there had not been any changes since the first reading.

Mayor Blake opened the Hearing for public comment. There being no questions or
comments, the public portion of the Hearing was closed and returned to Council.

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* MOTION by Councilmember Hearn; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to
approve M-2 ZTA Large -Scale Commercial Recreation Centers and Gym and
Fitness - 3095 Grissom Pkwy.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
4. Uptown C-C Zoning Text Amendment to Add Optical Services (First Reading) (2026-
418). (Planner)
Attorney Garganese read the item stating it was the first reading. Ms. Webster
presented1 the item sharing a couple of pictures showing the location. Ms. Stacy
Sidwell is the owner of Freedom Optical on Forrest Avenue. She thanked staff and
spoke about her business and the services she offers.
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing for public comment. There being no questions or
comments, and the public portion of the Hearing was closed and returned to Council.
* MOTION by Councilmember Koss ; Seconded by Councilmember Hearn to
approve on first reading of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Cocoa,
Brevard County, Florida; amending Appendix A, Article XI, Section 22 of the
Zoning Ordinance of the City of Cocoa to allow for Optical Services as a
permitted use in the Uptown Neighbo rhood (UN) Subdistrict of the Cocoa
Waterfront Overlay District where the Underlying zoning category is Core -
Commercial (C-C).
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
5. Grissom Parkway 1.29 Ac Annexation (Second Reading, POSTPONE to date certain
of July 14, 2026, Council Meeting at 65 Stone St, Cocoa, FL at 6 pm.) (2026-429).
(Planner)
Mayor Blake opened the Hearing for public comment. There being no questions or
comments, the public portion of the Hearing was closed and returned to Council.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to
approve Postponing the Grissom Parkway 1.29 Ac Annexation (Second

1 Zoning Text Amendment Optical Services

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Reading, POSTPONE to date certain of July 14, 2026, Council Meeting at 65
Stone St, Cocoa, FL at 6pm.)
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
VII. Council Business:

1. Consider the Appointment of JP Pauken and George Brown to fill two Regular Member
vacancies on the Code Enforcement Board. (2026-457). (City Clerk).

* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Goins; Seconded by Mayor Blake to approve George
Brown for the seat through 2027 and JP Paukin to fill the seat to 2029 on the
Code Enforcement Board.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
2. Council Direction on the implementation approach of flood mitigation measures on
North Indian River Drive near Dixon Boulevard. Council Direction on Shoreline
Improvements at the North Indian River Drive and Dixon Boulevard Intersection.
(2026-471). (City Manager/Public Works Director)
Mayor Blake introduced the item, adding this was at the request of Councilmember
Koss at a previous meeting.

Ms. Morgan presented the item via a presentation 2. She provided a detailed
explanation as to the analysis performed of the problems at Dixon and Indian River
Drive. The flooding issues are due to several sources, namely three; ground water
rising, rainfall excess and the river itself. Each influences the flooding separately.

Ms. Morgan shared possible options and the pros and cons of each. Staff
recommended the city engage a specialized engineering firm to perform an
independent study, evaluate alternatives, identify effective solutions and then present

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those to council. She added the importance of a long -term solution as this has been
a problem for a long time.

Councilmember Hearn added he agrees and is in favor of an evaluation. He would like
staff to consider creating a public use area there for the public.

Councilmember Koss thanked Ms. Morgan for such a good, informative presentation.
She asked about an area near there where there was work that was done on the
shore. Director Morgan explained it was due to Hurricane damage on the road, and
staff applied for an Emergency Permit through the Army Corps of Engineers.

Councilmember Koss elaborated and shared her thoughts on the areas affected. She
asked about baffle boxes and agreed comprehensive solutions would be needed.

Councilmember Weeks thanked staff and asked if there had ever been a study done
on the area and Ms. Morgan replied no.

Todd Riggs, Indian River Drive , Cocoa, spoke about the flooding, and thanked and
complimented Ms. Morgan on the presentation. He asked council to keep the
homeowners in mind and not favor the developer.

Bill Chatterton, Indian River Drive , Cocoa thanked staff and added additional
information.

Pam Cormer, Indian River Circle, Cocoa, shared that this has been there since 1970
and as a younger person they did not have these flooding problems. She stated it
began after the widening of US 1.

Councilmember Koss asked her to share the story about her backyard.

Ms. Cormer stated that the water was so high that the landscapers would not mow
and her dogs could not go outside.

Mayor Blake asked Ms. Morgan if staff had a firm in mind. Ms. Morgan replied
affirmatively and shared their experience.

Mayor Blake further asked Ms. Morgan about a couple of pictures in her presentation
that showed a standard neoprene duckbill as compared to the newer stainless steel

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inline valve. The first was eaten up, clogged with debris and vulnerable to marine
growth.

Deputy Mayor Goins agreed to the need for a long-term solution and asked if the road
would be raised or grading to yards. In response, Ms. Morgan explained that when
the study comes back that will be discussed.

Mayor Blake asked about the length of the project. Ms. Morgan replied from the Dixon/
Indian River Drive intersection, it would go North about 500 feet and South about 1800
feet.

Councilmember Weeks mentioned expanding the road out and Ms. Morgan replied
that would require a submerged land easement and would take many years.

Councilmember Hearn asked about funding for this project. City Manager Whitten
mentioned 4.7 million for baffle boxes at this area and the application could possibly
be refined to address this. He asked Ms. Morgan and Ms. Bowman about a possible
piggyback or would it need a bid process. Ms. Morgan responded there was a
piggyback. At that point it would be a budgetary item to address.
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Hearn to approve
engaging a specialized Engineer to prepare an independent study where
Council can then evaluate the alternatives and the costs.

THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss

THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)

3. Consider the Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of
$1,000. (2026-503) (City Clerk).

* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to approve the
Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of $1,000.

THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:

AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss

THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)

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VIII. City Business:
1. Approval of Alternative Language for the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County
Public Schools to donate to Cocoa High School for Sports Improvements. (2026-492).
(City Manager)
City Manager Whitten introduced the item and reminded Council at the May 19, 2026,
budget meeting staff wanted to bring back language to go to the School Board. The
School Board then came back with a counteroffer. Council was concerned with their
offer stating that it could create liability for the City.
Deputy Mayor Goins stated he spoke with the principal and presented another draft.
He outlined a process for the school and explained that this contract language would
not change the way the school was currently processing these types of events with
non-profits. He stated she seemed content with that, but it would have to go back to
the school board for final approval. Discussion continued among council members
about their concern for liability for the city. However, it was agreed that the proposed
language by Deputy Mayor Goins would go to the school with a sentence added at
the end of section 4.3 of the original draft presented them, that states the school will
provide the city on a quarterly basis the 501 C3’s that used the facility at no charge.
All agreed, however, discussion continued regarding process, and the benefits to the
city. Deputy Mayor Goins stated it puts skin in the game for the school.
The Motion being requested is to allow the City Manager to go back to the table with
the new language.
Additionally, Section 4.3 of the original draft states: School Board Contribution. The
School Board acknowledges that the intent of this Interlocal Agreement is to
cooperatively invest in the Athletic Improvements to the Benefit of Cocoa residents,
businesses and students. As such the School Board intends to share in the cost of
the Athletic Improvements. The School Board will pay the difference between the
City’s Contribution of $150,000 and the tot al cost of the Athletic Improvements. The
School Board will plan, design and manage the project. In addition, the School Board
Agrees to waive its facility rental fees for the use of the Cocoa High School stadium
and track at least four times per calenda r year for a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization
to utilize such facilities. The facility rental fee waiver shall be offered on a first -come,
first-served basis to non -profit organizations. The School Board may continue to
enforce other requirements as are applicable to all renters pursuant to School Board
policies, such as insurance obligations and security -related requirements, security
deposits, or clean up fees.

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The new language being proposed is to add t hat Cocoa High School will send 2
quarterly reports to the City advising them of which 501(c)(3) organizations utilized
their facility.
* MOTION by Deputy Mayor Goins ; Seconded by Councilmember Hearn to
approve the Alternative Language for the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard
County Public Schools to donate to Cocoa High School for Sports
Improvements as noted above.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
2. Approve Resolution No. 2026 -046 amending the City of Cocoa Building Permit Fee
Schedule to comply with the requirements of House Bill 803 (2026), effective July 1,
2026. (2026-494). (Community Services Director)
Ms. Neuterman presented the item, explaining the need for the resolution. She shared
the proposed changes per the HB 803 mandate (attached to Agenda). She added
there should not be a large impact.
Councilmember Weeks asked, for example, if a homeowner built a fence, there would
no longer be a permit? In response, Ms. Neuterman explained in a sense, but there
would be a review by planning.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
approve Resolution No. 2026-046 amending the City of Cocoa Building Permit
Fee Schedule to comply with the requirements of House Bill 803 (2026), effective
July 1, 2026.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
3. Approval of the multi-year Law Enforcement and Fire Dispatch Services Agreement
with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and approval of a BAF #26-074 for $70,000
to move dispatch equipment. (2026-495). (Business Systems & Innovation Director)

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Mayor Blake introduced the item and passed it along to Ms. Humbert. She reviewed
the agreement to transition to Unified Dispatch Services via a presentation 3. This
includes a one-time transition fee followed by 3 annual service costs. The savings to
the city is approximately 13 million dollars per year. The contract term would be July
1, 2026, through September 30, 2029.
Mayor Blake asked about the employees who would be moving and Ms. Humbert
shared as offered by the Sheriff’s Office they would have FRS, better pay, keep their
accruals and be able to continue using the City’s health clinic until their insurance
kicked in at the Sheriff’s office.
City Manager Whitten added that they are still in discussions with the union about the
details.
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Councilmember Koss to
approve the Interlocal Agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and
approval of a BAF #26-074 for $70,000 to move dispatch equipment.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
4. Approve A Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice
Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26-071-A-PD, in the amount of
$12,902. Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number for a total amount
of $25,804 Project number GR2602. (2026-453). (Police Chief).
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to approve a
Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice
Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26 -071-A-PD, in the
amount of $12,902. Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number
for a total amount of $25,804 Project number GR2602.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss

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THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
5. Council approval to apply for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) -
Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Program. (2026-458).
(Communications & Economic Development Director)
* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks; Seconded by Councilmember Koss for
approval to apply for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) -
Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Program.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
6. Council approval to apply for the FY26 Safer Outcomes: Enhancing De -Escalation
and Crisis Response Training for Law Enforcement - Support for Law Enforcement
Agencies Program. (2026-454). (Police Chief)
* MOTION by Mayor Blake; Seconded by Councilmember Weeks to apply for the
FY26 Safer Outcomes: Enhancing De-Escalation and Crisis Response Training
for Law Enforcement - Support for Law Enforcement Agencies Program.
THE VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS:
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)

IX. Informational Agenda:
1. Informational Only - The City of Cocoa's Open Board Vacancies. (2026 -491). (City
Clerk)
X. Reports:

Chief Lamm reported there will be the Hurricane Bucket Event at the Joe Lee Smith
Center on Saturday, from 9-12.
Ms. Senger reported the results from the mural using the 7 submitted names. She
shared pictures of the draft mural which includes pictures of each of the 7 with a
short bio on each person.

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City Manager Whitten added that the families will be asked if the photos are
acceptable or if they would prefer to use a different one.
City Manager Whitten reported that the City is waiting on 3 project funding requests
from the state. One is for 2 million for the entry road at the train station, another is for
the baffle boxes for 4.7 million, and the third is for $375,000 for Provost park.
Councilmember Koss reported about her tour of Coca Cola and spoke about Brevard
Humane Society who is doubling their space and adding a commissary. She shared
photos of the manatees at the intersection of Dixon and Indian River Drive.
Councilmember Hearn reported that he attended the Florida Training for Emergency
Management.
Deputy Mayor Goins attended a KOP Fundraiser Breakfast for Thomas Cole and the
young men in the program. Saving Our Sons works with young men who have a
difficult life and mentors them including tying their ties. He also attended the Pillars of
Hope graduation.
Councilmember Weeks shared photos where she attended the graduation at the
on Clearlake Drive, participated in Meals on wheels and attended a League of Cities
event.
Mayor Blake shared photos of an event at Endeavor with United Way giving out books
to the students. He added Children’s Hunger Project was also there. He shared
photos of the Brevard’s Got Talent event who raised money for the Humane Society.
XI. Adjournment:

* MOTION by Councilmember Weeks ; Seconded by Deputy Mayor Goins to
adjourn the Regular meeting of June 9, 2026.
AYES: Blake, Weeks, Goins, Hearn, Koss
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (5-0)
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
________________________________
Michael C. Blake, Mayor
ATTEST:
______________________________
Lori Chabot, Recording Secretary

Agenda (the City's wording)

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An item without a time link may still have been discussed; the link is only added when the automatic match is strong.

I. Opening Matters

1. Call to Order
2. Invocation
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of June 9, 2026.
2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of April 14, 2026.

III. Awards and Presentations

1. Historic Cocoa Village Main Street Presentation

IV. Delegations

V. Consent Agenda

1. Approve FEMA's Contract Modfication #3 for Fiske & Broadmoor Acres Drainage Improvements Project increasing the budget for Construction, and extend the period of performance.
2. Approve Resolution 2026-039 and Release of Easements Agreements for Vacation of certain Utility Easements between the City of Cocoa and Fortenberry Apartments Venture, LP.
3. Approve the Change Order to Kimley-Horn Task Order # 2025-11.1 to Design and Permit London Ditch piping under the existing Continuing Services Agreement Q-23-01-COC for $13,800 for additional Stormwater analysis. Approve BAF # 26-068-T for $28,800. Approve the Project Contingency Resolution of $15,000 for a total project cost not to exceed $113,120. Authorize the City Manager to issue this and future change orders as approved within the total project cost.
4. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY 2026 budget, BAF 26-058-A, to cover the costs of the technical incident emergency declared at the February 19th special meeting.
5. Approval of the requested Street Closure outside the CBD
6. Council Approval to accept the revised Victim of Crime Act (VOCA) grant award for FY26 of $107,616, project number GR2601, grant number VOCA-C-2025-City of Cocoa Police Department-00181, and Approve a Resolution Amending the FY26 Budget, BAF#26-070-A for $4,777.00.
7. Approval of a multi-year purchase with Civic Plus for ADA document compliance software from Feb 11, 2026 - Sep 30, 2027. Authorize CM to execute related agreements and amendments.

VI. Public Hearings

1. Conduct a Public Hearing to obtain citizen input and comments on housing and community services needs and approve recommendations on the FY 2026-2027 CDBG and HOME program funding. — 00:20:13
2. 3600 Grissom Pkway Comp Plan Amendment (POSTPONED) — 00:44:25
3. M-2 ZTA Large-Scale Commercial Recreation Centers and Gym and Fitness - 3095 Grissom Pkwy- CORRECTED LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT — 00:45:39
4. Uptown C-C Zoning Text Amendment to Add Optical Services (First Reading) — 00:50:40
5. Grissom Parkway 1.29 Ac Annexation (Second Reading, POSTPONE to date certain of July 14, 2026 Council Meeting at 65 Stone St, Cocoa, FL at 6pm.) — 00:57:27

VII. Council Business

1. Consider the Appointment of JP Pauken and George Brown to fill two Regular Member vacancies on the Code Enforcement Board. — 00:58:55
2. Council Direction on the implementation approach of flood mitigation measures on North Indian River Drive near Dixon Boulevard. Council Direction on Shoreline Improvements at the North Indian River Drive and Dixon Boulevard Intersection. — 01:01:35
3. Consider the Donation Application for Family Promise of Brevard in the amount of $1,000.

VIII. City Business

1. Approval of Alternative Language for the Interlocal Agreement with Brevard County Public Schools to donate to Cocoa High School for Sports Improvements. — 01:46:01
2. Approve Resolution No. 2026-042, amending the City of Cocoa Building Permit Fee Schedule to comply with the requirements of House Bill 803 (2026), effective July 1, 2026. — 02:07:10
3. Approval of the multi-year Law Enforcement and Fire Dispatch Services Agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office and approval of BAF #26-074 for $70,000 to move dispatch equipment — 02:13:32
4. Approve A Resolution Amending the FY2026 Budget Accepting the Bureau of Justice Assistance FY25 Bulletproof Partnership Grant, BAF#26-071-A-PD, in the amount of $12,902. Transfer the Match portion to the Grant Account Number for a total amount of $25,804 Project number GR2602. — 02:22:06
5. Council approval to apply for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) - Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Program. — 02:23:58
6. Council approval to apply for the FY26 Safer Outcomes: Enhancing De-Escalation and Crisis Response Training for Law Enforcement - Support for Law Enforcement Agencies Program — 02:24:51

IX. Informational Agenda

1. Informational Only - The City of Cocoa's Open Board Vacancies.

X. Reports

XI. Adjournment

XII. Notice to the Public

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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If everyone would please join me also in a moment of silence. We lost one of our very own, Ms. Jewel Collins, or

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Thank you all.

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Good job. Good job. To you both. Good job. Yes. Okay. Proceeding on. Madam Clerk.

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May we do roll call, please, ma'am. Yes,

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Mayor Blake. Present,

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City Manager Whitten. Thank you.

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Agenda regular meeting of June 9, 2026. What are the wishes of council? Move

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Got a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Weeks. Second. Second.

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All in favor saying aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 2-2. Minutes. Regular meeting of April 14, 2026.

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the wishes of council? Move to approve. We got a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Weeks.

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Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number 3. Awards and presentation. We have a presentation by historic Cocoa Village. Street presentation. I think we have a handout too. As well. Preservation on Main Street Statewide Conference. Is that correct?

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Would you please come to the podium? Oh, and also, okay, I didn't know you were dynamic duo here. Okay, okay. Please introduce yourself, please.

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evening.

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I am the president

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historical Cocoa Village Main Street, and

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We are thrilled and honored that after almost a full year

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less than a month, we will

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These visitors represent all the main streets across Florida. This is a backing from the state of Florida. You've already seen the banners that have been put up. You probably recognize that 250 anniversary banner. It's all across the state. Okay, we were kind enough to add historic Cocoa Village to the bottom of it. These visitors will be with us for a week. They will be talking about the preservation on Main Street, all our historic buildings, our businesses, how we work together across the state. We are very thrilled that the ‸ city,

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has been working with us to make sure that it is a wonderful week for us and that we have access to the buildings and all the historic buildings. So a lot of you are going to be invited and participating, and we look forward to having you there and representing our city. Again, we are very excited. We've been doing a lot of work in the village and public works especially. Thank you for all your help. We cannot do it without you. ‸ Chris will hit the highlights for you, and if you have any questions, please let us know. Job well done.

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Good evening, and I ‸ want to really thank Public Works and Stockton and his team for helping us, and this has been a real partnership and a real win for the village to pull this off. This is kind of a big deal in the historical preservation world for us to host it.

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we don't have a hotel here, but I know you all are working on that. So

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everybody's

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going to be out at the

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and they're going to be out there and be shuttled back and forth. One of the big events for the week is the Secretary of State's Historical Preservation Dinner. That's going to be out at the

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So that's going to be a big deal. We've asked SpaceX to be part of that.

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so we're excited about that to get SpaceX also into the village and sort of build that partnership.

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so we're excited about that. So again, we'll be in touch with you all as to the agenda for the week, and you'll be invited to join us, and we thank you.

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Wonderful. Thank you. Well done. Any questions?

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Continue to move forward. Okay. This concludes this portion ‸ of presentations and awards, and we will proceed with delegation. Okay. First on the list will

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Then Lieutenant Paul Camus, and then Mrs. Anita Gibson.

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Good evening. Good evening. Mayor, council members, and guests. My name is Melissa Pope, and I am honored to serve as Mrs.

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Coco

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Florida 2026. As Mrs.

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Florida, my platform is Blood Donation Awareness, which is a cause that is very close to my heart. My goal is to help educate our community about ongoing need for blood donors and the life-saving difference a single donation can make. I am proud to represent the city of Cocoa, and will have the privilege of competing in Mrs. Brevard County next month. I look forward to continuing to promote volunteerism, community involvement, and blood donation awareness throughout Brevard County. Thank you all for your service to our community and for allowing me the opportunity to introduce myself this evening. Would the mayor and council be willing to take a quick photo with me? I would be honored to share it for my Mrs.

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coco

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Florida 2026.

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Absolutely,

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Thank you.

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Ready? One, two, three.

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Good. One more. Can I get one more? Yeah.

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to this part.

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Oh, very good.

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I apologize. I've got to do a lot of reading here, but my main reason for being here is to talk about the property tax.

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And if you go to Osorio, they'll give you 25% off summer drinks.

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From what I was told, I recommend the chocolate peanut butter ice cream.

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You may or

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up in Washington. I watched her give an interview last Thursday on,

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It's a Catholic EWTN news. ‸ And her main focus was about getting our children and adults off of screens and getting out and about. A lot to have to do with the brain. So if you get an opportunity ‸ to watch that, it's very good. I was doing my neighborhood walk and I got in conversation with a person and we got to talking about the property tax. And this person doesn't want to pay the property tax anymore. But I went into how important it is that we do continue. So it just so happened this weekend, I was going through some papers

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I was in the inaugural one and I come across some papers here that it was a pie chart.

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And then down below it read ad valorem 64%. So I'm not sure what figure I need to use or dollar amount. And

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But I just want to be educated and informed. So when I'm out and about and I could give good answer to folks about the property tax and how important it is, because I haven't met a pie that I don't love. So I don't want to not have that piece of pie.

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as far as in the event the voters so decide to do away with the property tax, what generally, who's not going to get a taste of that pie as far as service is concerned? Because I tell you what, from what I just heard prior, we got folks coming into the village and I know some of that property tax money goes towards the village to help provide whatever it is. And ‸ I just love living here. So if anyone wants to share with me a little bit of information that I could have. So when I go talk with folks.

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If I may, and correct me, help me out, Mr. City Manager. I thought we have on our website when we originally did our breakdown on reference of the property tax, if it's eliminated quite naturally through the loss of revenue. They've been doing an exclusive study at

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board of directors meeting this past Friday.

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The Florida League of Cities will come out with a game plan. The wording, ‸ if it's placed on the ballot, will be determining. Trying to make sure it's not convoluted so that people can understand the essential intent of it. But more so than anything else, it's imperative. You're right. We educate and we are going to educate. But

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We as a council, once the ballot has been determined and it goes on a ballot, the wording for the ballot. ‸ Then we cannot say per se as a council. But ‸ I know for a fact we do have a tool bag. And inside of our tool bag, we were talking about how the loss of that revenue would impact our city directly and other municipalities.

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And then one of the key terms, commercial properties will be

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by this too as well.

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We will call the free state of Florida. But if this passed with 60%, it will be

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Florida and rest assured if you lose that revenue from your property taxes, how do you rejuvenate that loss of revenue? And it's going to affect our first responders as you know already and throughout this room. Uh, Mr. City Manager, um, do we still have that website up in reference of when during the time we submitted our impact?

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sure we will develop information based on what was passed in the legislature.

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But if you think of it this way, if you take an isolation, the ‸ police department budget, which is $14 million.

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And so if you were to take that in isolation,

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that, then you just you're deeper into the hole there.

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an educational piece on the impact to the city of Cocoa.

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will release their portion as well. And stay tuned, be informed. And we're here to educate you. Councilwoman Cost.

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Your question was the 24% that you had on one of your handouts from the Citizen Academy. I think isn't 24% is that the percentage of our expenses that

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total collection on your tax bill, which includes school boards, special districts, cities there. And so the 24% may be only the city portion of this property tax bill. But I don't know what

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It has 24 in the pie. And then down below, ad valorem property taxes

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know. That's

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I don't know that that's. Yeah, this is 2019 2020.

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yes yeah and here we're at 26 so that document is six years back when i

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got this back in 2019,

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And I know District

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we're going to have some new council members, right? Let's not bring in new folks and not have the funds available for them to be able to spend as needed for our city. So, I mean, that's why we're here. And that's why we have a city is because we want to pay extra to get the services that we have. So.

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‸ You're right. Education

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all Thank you, sir. Thank

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next miss Gibson, ma'am.

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Good evening, everybody. Mayor, council person, staff,

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And I just have one simple question. On Railroad Avenue, there's three separate mounds of debris, a compilation of chairs and couches, and it's been there for some time. So I'm not sure if you call code enforcement is county or city, but

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And I think something needs to be done about that in our neighborhood. And I don't know who um really to contact, but it's been there for some time. It's three miles and I'm assuming uh

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for, you know, for various reasons. And I think that it's time that that area on Railroad Avenue is cleaned up, and those three

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of garbage, trash, uh uh it was somebody's home. So it's my trash is somebody's treasure, but I don't mean to belittle the homeless people because I i work with them. But, uh Railroad Avenue, the three miles of trash, I would like to see it gone as soon as somebody can figure it out. Thank you.

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um to answer that question, and then I will defer the floor to count deputy mayor

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We've taken pictures. um the various individuals are aware of that, the proper authorities, the individuals that own that piece of property, ma'am. um you must, uh get a trust passing, a warrant issued or, um so that once they clear their property, if any other homeless person comes on that piece of property, we have the right to go through and exercise the fullest rights of the law. Is that correct, Mrs. um Noodleman, ma'am? Yes, Mr. Mayor, that is correct. So, so the area which you trust me, you elaborate about right now, ma'am, we are addressing that issue.

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because they stated that they were going to reach us both. And I, I'm willing to bet you she did, the

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you know, I always appreciate you coming, ‸ bringing information. um last week we sent that to code enforcement. uh I believe we sent also another email to the city manager and public works about those piles, but it's a, it's

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process. So, but you're absolutely correct. It's a lot of illegal dumping. That's another thing too, that's going on as well. People just ride on that street and just dump and throw tires out and and things of that nature too. ‸ So, um we get it. So, it's already in process. Okay. Thank you. Thank

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you so much. Appreciate your time.

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Okay. Do we have any other additional cards for delegation?

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delegations. uh we will proceed with item number five consent agenda.

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floor by councilwoman weeks and

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all in favor saying aye.

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eyes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number six dash one. Conduct a public hearing to obtain citizen input and comments on housing, community services needs, and approve recommendations on the fiscal year

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and I would like to thank the following individuals for their help and assistance. miss Florence T., miss Charlene

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Zoe B., and miss Jennifer J. We do have the

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down to home,

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etc., etc. And there's Family Promise, Salvation Army. You all see a community service council. But the intent is here to require the Citizens Participation Plan. ‸ staff are required by

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comments on housing and community. All right. And we will open up the floor to the public. But, mrs nudeman uh before I turn the floor over to you, I'm just asking in general. uh Esquire

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Mr. City Manager, do you all have anything you would like to chime or add to this? Okay. Thank you, sirs. this is noodle man ma'am.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. as you've been As you've told everybody, it is a public hearing to obtain the citizen input and comments on the housing and community services needs and to approve recommendations on the ‸ fiscal year 26 27 CDBG and home program

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development block grant funds from HUD as a direct entitlement. And the City also anticipates

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funds from HUD as a part of

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as the lead consortium. The CDBG funds must be used to meet one of the three national objectives to benefit low and moderate income persons, eliminate or prevent slums of or blight, or meet urgent needs. And

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the grant to be allocated for public service

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can only be used to address housing needs such as home purchase or rehabilitation assistance or to rehabilitate housing for rent or home or ownership or other reasonable necessary expenses related to the acquisition or improvement of homes. The City must provide a 25 match for every dollar of home funds, and

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county lead agency All activities carried out with the funds must be consistent with the priorities and needs of our

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adopted in 2022, and

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our fiscal year 2627 action plan will be submitted to Brevard County in July for submission to HUD. And as you noted, we had an advertisement for the ‸ program funding. and We had a selection committee that reviewed all of the uh submissions, and those submissions were from Salvation Army, Community Services Council, Aging Matters, Family Promise, and Central Brevard Sharing Center. The proposals were graded, and the criteria below of introduction, demonstration of need, description of clients, the measurable outcomes, uh the consolidated plan ‸ consistency, which is important for uh HUD, and the organizational capacity, leveraging, and financial capacity. The total

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and

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available to support these public services. As part of the award,

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good portion of that is

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Our Section 108 loan, as you remember, was used to help construct the Dr. jolie Smith Community Center in Diamond Square,

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that Section 108 loan. uh We have staff administration um and our fair housing

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In our home administration, we also have it broken down under staff administration. Home Chodo set asides those are used for rehabilitation of rental housing, typically here in

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And then our home buyer assistance program. And as you know,

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and many homeowners who are hoping to purchase homes within the Michael C. Blake subdivision uh will possibly qualify for those home funds through the uh the program of the

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that we have available. um

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And so, as part of the public hearing, uh we do have the four agencies here in attendance to speak um on their programs and to uh thank the city for their support over the years that they have that we have done for them. um And Mr. Mayor, you do have the card so you um can call them up after you open back to the public.

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Yes ma'am, do we have any questions for Mrs. Newton?

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know I ask this probably every year, but um when I look at

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amount that we're allocating. And the

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be a lot.

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help. But so repaying the loan, do you know, I think it goes into, is it 31? Or when do we anticipate that being paid off?

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every year. But we do have a mandated amount that we have to provide every year, which is approximately

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So we do meet that minimum threshold that is required to repay back our loan. um And we have regular payments that we have to make for that Section 108 loan. So that's a requirement. There's no give or take on that. And as far as the home, the home is different than CDBG.

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that

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we are allocating

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of it to our home buyer assistance program, which is the maximum amount we can allocate for our home buyer assistance program based on the the requirements set in by home. Well, thank you for clarifying

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that. Yes,

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ma'am.

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The, um so is the, the interest rate for the 108 loan, is that? I'm going to defer to the design change I'm not sure

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what

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the current interest rate is.

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It's a variable interest rate.

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Based on like prime rates. And so we have to wait for them to sell that to lock in a rate.

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Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank

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you. ‸ we have any other additional questions?

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to Council and open to the public. um I would like to proceed in this order. Tom, raise your hand. Come on down. After Tom will be Mrs. Tara

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um after Mrs.

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it will be Mrs. Cindy Mitchell. And

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allowing us to speak to you Want me to say it?

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go ahead Tom

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is proudly celebrating the start of our 61st year

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simple and powerful, to support the independence, health, and safety, and quality of life of every aging citizen in our community Every program we operate is designed with one goal in mind, to help seniors remain safely in their homes for as long as possible. What we do, home care service like light housekeeping, respite, personal care. We do ramps, grab bars, uh smoke smoke alarms. Transportation, we have senior transfer, vets driving vets.

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their food with their pet. Emergency feeding, we do five emergency shelters during hurricanes. We have a sample house with care Caregiver Support Center, and of course we do the Meals on Wheels program.

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to homebound seniors, with more than 90 of those

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clients are Tom and Pat, which I believe uh Patricia ‸ had the the wealth of uh having to being able to meet them. uh Tom and Pat are a married couple who live in COCO. Pat is homebound and has health issues, and Tom is legally blind, which makes getting around extremely difficult. Each one of our volunteers has a story to tell about Tom. Every day they deliver a meal, he sings them an original song with an amplified microphone. It's absolutely amazing. um Thanking them for you know for bringing the justice meal to his beautiful wife. And our story about Pat is that Pat actually worked for Aging Matters for many years,

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at our senior lunch sites, and now it's our time to give back to her. Each year, at least five seniors lives are saved through daily wellness checks. Just two months ago on a Monday, a volunteer knocked on a client's door, and the client didn't answer, but she heard a faint call for help. She called

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they found that the client had been stuck in his bed all weekend long. Severely dehydrated, his doctor said

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had been there a few more hours, he probably would have died. His family called us after that, and he said you know that we saved his life, and it was our volunteers that do that life-saving measure every single day. This is why Meals on Wheels is more than food. It's safety, human interaction, and life-saving care. Our volunteers combat ‸ isolation through consistent family visits, address food insecurity, ensuring seniors

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asbury is also a place where we have seniors get at daily meals. So the need is growing. We need more support and

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council, council ‸ as a politicians come out to help us and

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but thank you very much. ‸ appreciate everything you do.

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was an honor to get to do it and I hope to get to do it again. um And yes, he sang beautifully to us and makes up a different song every time. So uh I'm just, uh you all are amazing in what you do. And

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moved by it as well and have put it out to a lot of them to uh hopefully donate and help you all

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throughout the county come out for that. wonderful Yeah. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. And you're always welcome to come. Thank

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you.

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‸ That's good sir. Thank you. this is paglerine

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Good evening. uh Mayor, council, staff. uh My name is Tara

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I'm the Executive Director of Family Promise of Brevard. Most of you know that we've partnered uh for the last three years uh uh ‸ firehouse, old firehouse number one, uh right behind the water tower, and turned it into a service hub with your support so that families have the services that they need to stay housed so children can thrive. Last night I was working a late night like I do. I was at the firehouse. I get to sit where the chief used to sit, kind of up front, and I can look out my window and

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and as it lights up it's beautiful. But I was sitting at my desk and I heard the fire bell ring, the um the bell ring. And we had had a family in shelter stay a little bit later. They needed to shower. And I heard a child giggling and I was like, oh they're just messing with the bell. And then the case manager came in. Her name's Andrea.

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I heard it. She said the family just got into housing. And so we ring the bell anytime there's something to celebrate. And so they were celebrating. And

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that you,

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helped get into housing. So

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reliable car. They were living with grandma to be able to afford housing. Grandma passed away. When grandma passed away, they lost that revenue towards their housing costs. They lost their housing.

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had friends that allowed them to come move in with them. But only the kids could fit in the house. So the parents, this is about a month ago, the mom called me. They were actually sleeping in the vehicle in the driveway while the kids were staying in the house. And they called me because they hadn't showered in a while and they didn't have any food. And so with your support through the firehouse, through CDBG funds, we're able to bring them in. We're able to provide them a safe, uh temporary place to stay, help them move back into housing. They did all the work. We provided the time and the space. You provided the funds and they moved into housing uh yeah uh today. So they celebrated last um last night. So that's what you helped us do. That's what you're going to continue to help us do through these funds that you're approving tonight, hopefully, and uh being able to continue to do the good work so that families that are hard working and trying to just get by, uh have some support while they're trying to figure things out.

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Thank you for what you do. Do we have any questions for Mrs. paglarini You see the diverse group of individuals that each organization has a direct impact and it's imperative that we

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Thank

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you. I want to also let you know that there's going to be an email coming. We have our annual meeting coming up on July 23rd. So I'm inviting everybody here behind me and in front, uh annual meeting at eastern florida state college it'll be on july 23rd uh 4 to 6 p.m

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and and share with us

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sometimes

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she's aware, Councilwoman Weeks, as well as Councilman Hearn, about the graduation impact

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Do you want me to like wait and tell you like as a secret later? Yeah,

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I think it's later, right? Yeah, it's

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‸ Okay, then we'll wait later. Yeah,

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‸ you have to stay to

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Okay, Mrs. Mitchell. Yes, good evening. Hello.

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um So

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We are a certified domestic violence center that has been serving Brevard for 42

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of what we do. And

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with all sorts of things, um depending on what their needs are. Some are involved with the criminal justice system, some are not. We work with them wherever they are. right And so that can be helping with basic needs. It can be some counseling, safety planning. It could be filing for victim compensation, trying to relocate somewhere else that's safer for them. Or it could be supportive housing assistance, which is something newer that we are doing.

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And so we we provide shelter services 24

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um one of the important things we provide in that shelter is food. And so CDBG funds are ‸ used to support our food costs in the shelter. And as you can imagine, serving you know 300 plus survivors in a year, it adds up. So we are grateful for your support from the city of

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And it helps us support to provide you know that safe safe place for survivors to go to escape abuse,

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we are able to help with. I think it's important to know that we are able um presently with support that can help us cover all the basics. we're able to help more with helping people get into housing, which has been a real blessing for us. So any

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questions? Yes, ma'am. I have a question. On the south side of your building,

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Are you at liberty to discuss or share?

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So at the Salvation Army, um at the Social Services for the Salvation Army, because we have various locations, um there is a warehouse that's being built for emergency disaster services. So one of the things the Salvation Army does internationally, and nationally in Florida, is emergency disaster services, which is typically a mobile kitchen. And

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you will see canteens go out. That's what they're called in the Salvation Army, canteens. And they can be cooked on or food loaded to and kept um ready to eat, you know, and delivered. So that's floods and hurricanes and other mass disaster kind of situation. So that will be the home, you know, keeping it inside and some other things.

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Thank you, ma'am. You're welcome. Thank you. Councilwoman

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Did you mention how many beds, how many beds do you have a an issue? ‸ Yeah. Yeah.

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We have 20 fixed beds. And we also have trundles and we have pack and plays, and so we kind of you know figure out how to say yes to as many people as we can.

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All right. Thank you.

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Thank you. Mr. Brubaker, sir.

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name is Dave Brubaker. I am the

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located at 113 Aurora Street here in the great city of

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distinguished staff, thank you so much for this opportunity to come and present, and also I would like to say

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honored to stand next to these other three agencies. They are a wonderful complement to the things that we do here within the city in our community.

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our community who struggle to obtain life's most basic needs. And I simply define that as the food on your table, the shirt on your back, the roof over your head. ‸ that's what we help people obtain or sustain on a daily basis at the Sharing Center. The funds that are going to be awarded will be utilized to purchase food for our community kitchen. Our community kitchen is open seven days a week, serving a hot meal from 11 to 1 Monday through Saturday and a bag lunch on Sundays. We are ‸ the only consistent feeding site in all of

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to provide a healthy hearty meal to all those who come. We thank you again for the past support for the our mission. I will tell you that our number one ask is can you help provide a meal or help provide food for my table. We are extremely busy. In fact,

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Just yesterday, we serviced 61 households. That is representing more than 170 people within those households. We fed over 125 adults plus an additional 20 children that came into our community kitchen. And this is just yesterday. Again, the funds that we will receive will be used to purchase food. We are ever so thankful to provide this opportunity and the service to those in our community. We are celebrating our 48th year and I have had the pleasure of being with the organization for 23. And so I look at the the growth in our services, but especially the growth in requested services. We are seeing more and more people. We average over 200 clients who have never been to our ‸ facility a month. ‸ new means never been to the sharing center. So these funds are much needed. There is a big issue in regards to hunger. It's based on economical standards. uh Wages not keeping up with the cost of living. People struggling. And so we're there to help. I will tell you, I'm happy to say that

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request for that. So these needs are ever so needed for ‸ our services. are so needed for our community. And I thank you for this opportunity and

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thank you for what you ‸ Thank you so

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much. I will say to this council, ‸ stay tuned in the next two years. our Our goal is to create a capital campaign this year to build a state-of-the-art food pantry on

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sure like to close this portion to the public and return of the council what are the wishes of council move

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to approve the funds as requested

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have it unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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you. Wish we had more

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Mrs. Webster, would you like to say anything? No,

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sir. Thank you. I have nothing to add.

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you. We have any questions?

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this portion to Council and open it to the public and you can only elaborate about the postponing of this particular item. 6-2 going once, going twice. chill at the close it to the public and

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to approve.

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Got a motion on the floor by Councilwoman

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All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye.

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Large Scale Commercial Recreation Center and Gym and Fitness,

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2026-409. If I'm not mistaken, I don't ‸ think nothing has changed on this particular item.

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allowed a large-scale commercial recreational center to include a

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radio-controlled

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miniature vehicle racetrack. That is awesome. um

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um I know this was approved by

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Amendment. um I would like to turn it over to you, sir.

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Okay, second and final reading, Ordinance 04-2026, an ordinance of the City Council

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Article 11, Section 19 of the Zoning Ordinance

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permitted uses related to large scale commercial recreation centers in gym and fitness facilities

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district, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances, resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. This is a public hearing item and a legislative matter to amend the city code. Mayor.

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Thank you, Esquire Garganese.

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Mrs.

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Webster, ma'am.

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Yes, sir. Thank you. um I have nothing to add. There haven't been any changes since the first reading,

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Thank you very much,

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this portion to Council and over to the public. Please come feel free to come forward and state your name. Pertaining to this particular item. Going once. Going twice. ‸ sure like to close this portion to the public and return to council. What are the

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Councilwoman Weeks. chairs gonna ‸ call the question all in favor saying ‸ Aye. Aye. Any nays? Ayes have it unanimously. Proceeding on to item number four, Uptown CC Zoning Text Amendment to add an optical services.

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um an optical services is not permitted to a sub district which involves the water overlay district. This was approved by PNZ June the 3rd. And Esquire Garganese, um do you have any words of wisdom or anything

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you would like to share with us? sir This is our first reading of ordinance number 11-2026. An ordinance of the City Council of the City of

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Brevard County, Florida amending Appendix A Article 11 Section 22 of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of

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to allow for optical services as a permitted use in the Uptown neighborhood UN sub district of the

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Waterfront Overlay District

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Providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the code severability and an effective date. This is also a public hearing item and legislative item as well. I mean the title sums it all up. um

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optical services in the Uptown neighborhood district with the CC underlying zoning districts. Pretty straightforward. Mayor.

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Thank you very much

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thank you sir. um Good evening Mayor and Council members. I'm Jennifer Webster, planner

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this item is

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Sidwell, the owner of Freedom Optical. And uh the subject property address uh that initiated this

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tax

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amendment is 120 Forest Avenue in

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uh up

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Avenue between Willard and Mulberry Streets. And uh the owner was operating out

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recently relocated to the existing subject property at 120 North Forest Avenue, which is within the Uptown Neighborhood sub district of the Waterfront Overlay District, where optical services is, as a use, is currently not permitted. Created in 2013, the UN sub district is one of the eight sub districts in the Waterfront Overlay District.

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commercial design elements and development patterns found within the

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Redevelopment Area. Where the sub districts dictate the urban form and development pattern, the sub district's underlying zoning dictates the uses permitted. In this case, there are 13 parcels in the UN sub district that have an underlying zoning of core commercial that would be affected by the text amendment. The future land use is a mix of mixed use institutional, and recreational open space.

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subsection F, which is the table of uses, ‸ where optical services intersects with core commercial. A P will be added, indicating that the use will be permitted by right in the UNCC sub district underlying zoning category. And so, the Planning and Zoning Staff Report covers the analysis of the criteria according to Appendix A of the City of

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Article 21, Section 1G, with regard to impact to land use patterns, school districts, consistency with a comprehensive plan, traffic, storm water and other utilities and public services, and has determined that the zoning change will not negatively or adversely impact the need and justification for the change. um

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the compatible uses where we have the library, a contractor offices, a real estate office, a school, some retail, and some residential. And the underlying uh core commercial zoning permits professional services, medical and dental clinics currently, and retail, but it currently excludes optical services. So, the North American Industry Classification System optical book defines optical goods stores as establishments primarily engaged in the retail sale and fitting of prescription eyeglasses and contact lenses or optician services. Freedom Optical Incorporated is a hybrid of such retail and technical professional services. And the majority of the subject parcels that have a mixed use future land use designation. Core Commercial is an applicable zoning category to this mixed use future land use. The proposed amendment expands the permitted uses in the UNCC to include neighborhood commercial type activities that are professional in nature, and this does ‸ align with the comprehensive plans goals of promoting diverse land use patterns that support surrounding residential growth

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while accommodating compatible commercial activities

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areas. And finally, consistency with our comprehensive plan, the goals, objectives, and policies, it aligns with policy

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mixed use and transitional areas where the location meets the criteria for transitional area between high and low intensity uses for

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promote vitality and redevelopment within the CRAs and for the businesses to complement not compete with each other where redevelopment areas outside the CBD are to complement the ones within the CBD private sector coordination where the city shall ‸ coordinate redevelopment issues with the private sector and also with regard to plan implementation and consistency with with the future land use. and so if

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request is approved by Council and the use of optical services is applied to the UNCC sub and underlying zoning any new optical service business uses will be subject to parking and parking area ratio ‸ requirements, signage regulations and all other applicable code requirements. in some cases this may require a minor site plan amendment and so tonight staff request City Council approve this first reading of ordinance 11 2026 to allow for optical services as a permitted use in the uptown neighborhood sub districts of the Cocoa Waterfront Overlay District where the underlying zoning district is core commercial. and the applicant and owner ‸ Freedom Optical is in the audience this evening should Council have any questions. thank you

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thank you very much mrs. Webster ‸ we have any questions for mrs. Webster saying none we'd like to close this portion to council open to the public

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‸ would you like to come to the podium and share um some information if you like it's based on your own discretion ma'am

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sure good evening thank you good evening I meet many of the criteria yes Stacy said well

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thank

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you I'm the owner and founder of freedom optical and the optician on site and

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that many of the services and the categories that I provide for are already approved specifically excluding the optical services so I would ask that I'd be reviewed to be accepted with that exclusion and approved within the zone that I'm at

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saying ma'am I think you could see straight through this I think they get a unanimous vote, but we'll see, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you,

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Welcome, ma'am. Yep. Neighbor. Okay.

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Grissom Parkway 1.29 AC annexation second reading is postponed to date certain of July 14 2026 council meeting ‸ at 65th

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so just going through the process ma'am

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right the applicant is um needs to work on a couple of things regarding their application um so

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we've requesting that this be postponed to the next regular council meeting which is scheduled um July 14th 2026 at 6 p.m.

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nothing to add sir thank you

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excuse me public. Please come forward and state your name in reference of elaborating only on the postponing of this particular item.

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return to the council. What are the wishes of council? Move to approve the postponement. We have a motion on the

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now um George Brown who's been on the board for as you all know for over 40 years his particular seat

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seat will expire that that runs through June 30th 2027

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do you want to do this okay all right um I know for a fact we have the

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do you have any comments to make and then I'll listen to council Okay, what are the wishes of council?

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to approve with uh George Brown with

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councilwoman calls ma'am

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yeah I was wondering um does anyone know if uh

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um But his first choice was for Board of Adjustment and there is actually an alternate position on Board of Adjustment. Was he informed of that?

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don't know yeah

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okay well um I was just hoping he was if uh he was interested in doing that in particular um But well code enforcement was his second choice so. um I've you already have a second so

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Okay we have a motion on

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aye aye ayes have it unanimously. okay proceeding on

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light ma'am

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We have um three cards in our possession. um This was the request that was made by Councilwoman

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Okay here's the item. Council direction on the implementation approach of the flood mitigation measures on the North Indian River Drive near

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at the North Indian River Drive

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public works director and the city manager.

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be up

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to staff.

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oh okay. Okay. So uh Mr city manager sir the floor is yours.

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Thank you Mr Mayor. um Mrs Morgan is going to lead us through her presentation again. And these are the staff comments and this is her professional analysis of the issues at hand.

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Okay. ‸ Good evening mayor and council.

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evening. The following presentation will cover a flooding assessment and mitigation strategies for a stretch of Indian River Drive including an evaluation of tidal backflow prevention and flood reduction alternatives.

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Next.

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residents

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have experienced flooding along Indian River Drive and access to their homes can become more difficult during severe storm events. There is a desire to reduce those impacts as soon as possible. The challenge is that flooding along Indian River Drive is influenced by several factors occurring at the same time. Before we invest public funds in a specific improvement, we need to understand which actions will provide measurable benefit, which locations should be prioritized, and whether a proposed solution could create unintended consequences elsewhere in the system. The key takeaway is ‸ that water does not recognize property lines, roadway segments, or individual outfalls. It follows the path of least resistance, which is why we need to evaluate the system as a whole. One of the most important observations is that flooding along Indian River Drive is not being driven by a single source. There are three separate forces acting on this area,

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the same time.

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During wet periods, the groundwater table rises and can reduce the available storage capacity within the drainage system.

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area that is already ready very limited elevation change.

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conditions, water levels outside the drainage system increase and can affect how efficiently storm water leaves the system. Each of these factors influence flooding differently. If we focus only on one source,

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of the problem while leaving the others unchanged.

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of the flooding is being driven by river backflow compared to rainfall and groundwater, and which improvements will have the greatest effect on reducing flood impacts.

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with installing valves at only a portion of the outfalls is that the roadway and the drainage system are interconnected. River water can enter through multiple low elevation outfalls, and if only some are protected, water will continue to seek the lowest available path through the remaining unprotected locations. As a result, a partial valve installation may provide little measurable reduction in roadway flooding. This is why evaluating the entire system is important before determining where valves should be installed and whether they will provide a meaningful benefit. There are also structural improvements that can reduce flood impacts along the river's edge. One example is a concrete gravity wall. A gravity wall raises the elevation of the shoreline edge and creates a physical barrier that helps reduce direct overtopping from the river during elevated water events. Another option is targeted riprap stabilization at identified low points. While riprap is often thought of as an erosion control measure, it can also help protect the road by reducing shoreline scour and preventing undermining of the road bed during storm events. The objective is not to identify a single solution, but to evaluate a toolbox of potential improvements and identify which combination of measures will provide the greatest benefit, where they should be implemented, and what level of flood reduction can reasonably be expected. There are also improvements that can address both stormwater backflow and water quality. One example is a way pro backflow perfect preventer, which is typically installed at a headwall and help helps prevent rising river levels from entering the stormwater system. Another option is an offline baffle box with bioactive media filtration. These systems are designed to remove nutrients and improve water quality before stormwater is discharged to the river. The purpose of highlighting these alternatives is to demonstrate that there are multiple tools available, each with different costs, benefits, and applications. A key component of the study will be determining which combination of improvements is best suited for this corridor. Valves come with different operational and maintenance considerations.

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access while reducing marine growth and fouling.

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shoreline conditions, and maintenance requirements all influence which technology may be most appropriate. Evaluating those factors is one of the primary objectives of our next step. this slide compares two different approaches to flood mitigation. The first is a localized approach such as installing duckbill valves or making improvements at selected locations. The advantage is lower upfront costs and faster implementation.

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may provide limited benefit if the flooding continues through other pathways. The second is a system-wide approach that ‸ evaluates the entire basin and identifies improvements based on the based on how the drainage system functions. While this approach requires more time and investment, it is intended to address flooding from multiple sources and reduce the risk of unintended consequences. The shoreline

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Drive intersection ‸ will require permitting from the Army Corps of Engineers FDEP and the water management District.

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and agency review.

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and eliminating the ‸ standalone shoreline hardening option. This so this better aligns with addressing flooding as a system-wide issue requiring a holistic evaluation. staffs recommend staff recommends direction from Council to engage

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specialized engineering firm to perform an independent study of the Indian River Drive corridor

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on engineering analysis. The study will also include a presentation to Council.

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we will get a plethora of questions because my board is lighting up like Christmas okay we will hear from council then I'll open it open it to the public please councilman

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Well we know this location here is in District

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us was born.

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the citizens on that within that location there I'm certainly in favor of doing a large-scale evaluation to see what we can do in that area one of the biggest things I would like to hone in as well as we look at this

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evaluation as well if that's possible that's a beautiful location there

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address the flooding but I would love to keep in mind any opportunities to have a public space as well

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councilwoman cause

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yes they say I thank you for the presentation it's a good presentation and I don't think anyone's ever argued with looking at the whole comprehensive picture in fact that's really what everybody's wanted all along we have watched different areas of Indian River Drive be addressed without conferring with council or doing a study so you know just as the property the Cocoa Village Bay Estates property was hardened Quite a bit of work was done there and that you know it wasn't part of a comprehensive study. I think that was to

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Ian there was the roadway was undermined in fact it encroached and took pieces of the asphalt so

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took a couple ‸ months but we were able to to construct what was submitted to

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it has been pretty successful in stopping the erosion there which was getting pretty severe well there's also now on the hill where we did a half ‸ million dollars worth of work I think that was another road issue at the top of the hill where we had to secure or stabilize or whatever that the term is that was that

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private property and that was when your predecessor here mr. Smith I think started that but I thought you were here too and I know that we also have that on the stormwater plan coming up some more work over there so that must be a road issue as well

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second slide I just wanted to point out the and again it's a good presentation one more this one when I look at this and I think about the area the first thing I think is is it's kind of turned around because the house would be in the lower area and the river would be higher because that's the way it is for several of the homes there that the homes are actually lower than the road and I think that one of the reasons that we wouldn't entertain raising the road at least in the conversation you had with me was that it

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and flood those homes that are lower so that was one of the risks but I just wanted to point that out and then to say also the baffle box and I think it was a couple slides up where you talked about the the baffle box and this that was a great that one you just did I that was ‸ a great layman's explanation understanding thank you for for taking time to do this but the baffle boxes I thought we determined that we couldn't do a baffle box at

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because the elevation was so low it in fact it wouldn't have any impact

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baffle box you mean underneath the road

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there's a sufficient elevation if

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okay and then last thing I think actually that was a comment from Councilman Hearn about there being flooding in the area since before we were born we may actually hear

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here all her life and of course when there were hurricanes there was always you know water issues over there but in terms of the general saturation that we have now that we

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so I'll just let you say more about that but she has shared with me that her brothers used to ride their bikes through there and camp in there and it was relatively dry so and again thank you for your presentation and I agree that we need comprehensive solutions

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to that just that it feels like you know particularly with the development that's going to be happening there now that there is more urgency to this and also what I had mentioned in written communications in January this council passed the vulnerability analysis which identified three areas in in

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and then up by High Point well Dixon and Indian River Drive of those three even got mentioned more than any other so um to just to, you know, take our infrastructure seriously and, you know, prepare for the future, this would be a good step.

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I just wanted to ask I

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appreciate your presentation because it lays it out really well for me to understand all of this have there ever been any past studies at all done on this never never had one

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not not since I've been ‸ yeah

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I just was curious if in the past anybody had ever looked at this but I agree the comprehensive study is is a way to go so that we do it correctly so and the ‸ best for the area so anyway thank you

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thank you very much do we have any other questions for staff

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before

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listen address ‸ concerns from the various individuals if you want to say something please submit

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good evening thank you for that presentation that's that's some of the best work I've seen on this topic and I think the results of this study will move this from I don't know who's got the better qualifications to data and facts you know best as we see them that that can inform council to make a good decision a little premature to say this but I've said it before I just want to repeat it we need to make sure we weigh the different interests of different groups of homeowners in ‸ this process you know we've got the existing homeowners we've got potential new homeowners the developer let's not favor the developer continue to favor the developer in this process thank you

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evening. My

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Chatterton. I live at [address].

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to be really close to the location that Abigail is commenting about. And I do really appreciate what she's already outlined here. And what I'm going to be talking about will probably be

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will dovetail right into her presentation in itself because I have some thoughts that could add to it and build up on what she's already outlined here in her presentation. So, um, I'd like to highlight the key points that I believe that, uh, important to the future process and maybe even the budget. Uh, flooding experience today is, is occurring more frequently, like she outlined. And the city ultimately

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and repairing all this. So, key challenges in the river flooding isn't driven by a single source, as she's highlighted. You got your underground, you got your underground water, uh, ground table water, you got your street, uh, storm water, and then you got the

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Okay. So, it, heavy rains is just not your,

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only part of the

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to this exercise, which is what we always think about and, and probably you see it more evident when it, it does have

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In short, the system is already stressed before the first drop of rain falls. Um, so a different approach to inland drainage system is it, uh, what we have to do approach this is not the same that we would use the template for an inland type of drainage system. This is a coastal type of drainage system. All right. So, um, one of the things that we're looking at is a lot of the physical constraints that we have. Um, obviously

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about the Dixon intersection, uh, where the curb and some riprap exists and it's about three to four feet away from the water's edge. That's very close. And it doesn't take much for the water to overtop the curb. So there's no really true. And I,

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know that

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riprap and structural. In my mind, I'm thinking seawall. So I'm going to refer to more of it as a seawall. And the difference may be on a seawall on a riprap is that, um, if you're down in South Florida, we use the same materials, except they cement the wall together. They fill it in, they fill the voids in and then they, they drop in, uh, cement on the outside. So near the Dixon Boulevard

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extremely close. We also have several

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the roads that come into that zone all have grades to it, especially Dixon. Dixon has approximately about

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grade,

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So in addition,

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Well,

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So the outfall is already underwater.

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One moment, please, sir. I'm gonna ‸ give you ‸ additional 45 seconds, but someone that has submitted a card, they can defer their time to you.

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Okay. I will do that.

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Mrs. Thank you. so

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So it's already lost capacity in its sense. So whatever the the high water level is at the lagoon, the river, it's feeding all the way back into that pipe system. So when we look at duckbill valves, there's

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variety of valves that you can use, but let's just take about the

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the duckbill one because that's one that we refer to most commonly. It stops the water from coming into the system. What you're more concerned about is the capacity of that system. And if you take away from that system, then all the rains and the groundwater and all that are fighting for the the pipe, the system. So that that's what duckbill does. It stops that backflow into the system. Okay. And the other thing is the groundwater is fighting. Any

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is taking away from the capacity of that storm system, storm water system. So anyway, not on top of that, we also have all this development that's going on around us. That's adding to the flavor of our flooding down that street, whether it be the uh the new the new development, uh

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or now the new uh

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Estates. And then you have uh additional activities that

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So when we look at uh the backflow prevention, you just look at a variety of them and study that, like

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said she's going to do. From a broader uh from a broader perspective, the I think here's a out of the box kind of thinking, is the Dixon river Indian River Drive area could be expanded by about 15 feet.

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more breath, and not be that water be right up against ‸ the water's edge, that might help. Like you said, it's going to

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bless that. But it's just a hair scheme ideal that I think might be worthy to explore. It might be good pre-positioning for your emergency pump system. If you ever, if you come up with your sea walls a little bit, maybe you have a staging area for materials or you could use it for emergency pumps. So on top of that, I always talk about improving local drainage systems.

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more drainage, local drainage systems, ‸ always got vegetation in it. okay And most of your breakout water coming from the neighborhoods is filling into that. And so you have, uh that's always got to be maintained, and it's the city has its challenges on keeping it up. All right, so I'm out. Yes,

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sir. Bill, I had a question. Are you a civil engineer?

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I am a civil

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engineer. Yes, I am. And do you have a PE degree? I do have a PE. Yes,

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sir. So do you do the work that Mrs. uh morgan performs?

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I ‸ do not. I'm more of a generalist to say this.

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I remember

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about that ‸ I think like

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I guess, is a safe

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assessment.

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Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yes, sir. so I

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you. So, um anyway, that's, I was just saying if we ‸ clean up that vegetation, maybe put

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you, sir. And thank you, Mr. front man freddy for um giving your time to bill Okay. Miss uh Pam, uh is it corner? Am I saying? Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

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Indian circle.

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um As far as the flooding i've grown up in that house my family has owned it

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My father used to have a garden back there, back in the woods. The boys used to ride their motorbikes. They would camp out there, and we never had a flooding problem that we have now.

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happened, during a bad thunderstorm, a gentleman in ‸ BMW, the road flooded and he had to have his car totaled and towed. ‸ So, I just wanted to clarify, this has not been happening for years. It's just recently since they expanded. So, that's all I wanted to let you all know. This is not an old issue. Thank

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you. ‸ Can I

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her? What,

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I'm sorry, yeah.

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Okay. I was born and reared here, but Councilman Hearn is correct. everybody in this room probably you know to my right you are left uh i'm 66

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frank sullivan who was i guess born here too as well so my concern is we're going to do what's best i think based on um all indications what you see for the staff recommendation have an engineering firm to perform this independent study. At least get it started.

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That's

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the most important thing. The climate is changing, so is the earth. We're going to do what's best and and come up with a very um comparable but fair and equitable

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so that we can address the effective solutions so that your concerns will be addressed along with the neighbors. um

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and if you need others and the other people in the neighborhood I grew up with but thank you for your time.

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No ma'am I thank you for your quality time. Councilwoman Calls?

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Yep Pam

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the condition of your backyard and

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my I had to get rid of my yard people they couldn't even get back there tomorrow. What year

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was that ma'am?

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It was just last year. 25? Yes sir. Okay. And 26. I got rid of the yard people I'd had for 20 years because the flooding was so bad they could not even get back there.

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that we shared with us? No. That was time scheduled. That took several years ago it wasn't something

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like it is now. It

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wasn't even a rainy season. And my dogs, I couldn't even let them out because they thought it was their own personal mud bath. It was awful back there. I finally had to hire a new company that would put

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Even Bill has tried to help me and put

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waders

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on and gone out there. And it was not rainy season. It was not a hurricane season. It was just normal flooding.

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can feel strongly about or make a

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aware of North Star consulting group they're a firm with specialized experience in coastal drainage and tidal flood mitigation

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works director for St. Pete Beach he has direct experience with the type of backflow prevention technologies and coastal flooding challenges that we've spoke about tonight. Okay,

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so this this firm can address the concerns immediately, expeditiously, and my concern would be if this firm is readily available ma'am I think we would need to find out what the pricing would be because what I would like to do is make a recommendation based on the outline you stated here to see if we can acquire or obtain or ascertain a firm that will deliver this quality service so that then we can see what it's going to cost so we can have it as a budget item and move forward to address their concerns and I need a second and then a real discussion a second. Thank you, Councilman

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‸ deputy mayor um goings you have your light on and that

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and maintenance,

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Can you elaborate on that? And then, not all of that, there was a picture where you had where all the shells barnacles were in that pipe versus I guess was it a stainless ‸ steel pipe? um That previous one, it may be prior to that, but could you talk a little bit ‸ yes that one and

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I'm sure they deal with the same there right there along the Gulf and coastal area as well

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yes so so these were ‸ photos provided by Brett Warner and he said that he has several of these check valves and he said that

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fouling. It is very difficult to access them. Sometimes they tend to get some sedimentation in on the on the flap and so it doesn't end up working. And so he says and you can't maintain them some during some wet season periods because you have to get an underwater team and to go down there and kind of clean. them out. The stainless steel inline valves, they have, they require minimal flow resistance. So they they they open up with much less, you know, head pressure. And so, and they also have mechanisms that resist marine fouling so

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in essence

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I would like for us based on your recommendation and conversation, we're trying to be proactive in reference of a long-term goal instead of something done overnight or expeditiously. Okay.

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Thank

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about the long-term solution the question that I have is part of this evaluation will raising of the road and also maybe potentially doing grading in yards, existing yards as well. Would that be a part of that conversation or part of that process? ‸ So

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what would what's what staff is is foreseen is once that study comes back is taking those recommendations and taking the Indian River Drive and Dixon Boulevard roadway elevation project that's been designed and kind of going back to the the consultant and asking them to revise the design and kind of, you know, include those measures and those along the roadway as recommended by from the study.

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expand the thought process. Ma'am from point A to point B

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the length? Will it be a say

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south.

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then I'm

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surrender the floor to council

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a problem

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as you mentioned and I know the conversation ‸ gonna ‸ come up eventually about, hey, you know what what does that

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kicking the can down the road, but it is we also don't want to make a mistake and and do something that's not gonna ‸ be sustainable as well. so But it's a bowl. And and we anytime you have a bowl and the rivers it's just a problem. And so it's it is I feel for the residents in that area I've right now my home I had water going in my

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my house is you know roughly four to five inches lower than they all the other houses around me um so trust me I feel the burn on that and it is

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um and so I wholeheartedly understand the situation so that's all

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gentleman Bill was speaking and he talked about you know expanding it out which I never ever even thought of but having just been in the Netherlands you know they reclaimed a whole lot of land doing that very thing so I you know I know I just wondered if part of

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study, if that is something that would be looked at as ‸ well just to see you know I mean I never thought of it till he said it and I went oh So anyway, just.

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‸ So there's a delineation along the shoreline, which is between the mean high water and

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state waters. And so at that location, it is right there

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I gotcha

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so the only way that can happen is if we we were able it would require a submerged land easement. And my understanding is that that would take. Years.

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It was worth a shot. Right. That's right. now

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they're willing to do that. You know

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‸ This question is probably for city manager. uh The last meeting, there was a report in regards to some funding that

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was possibly being allocated

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is it specific to any projects or uh can it be towards any

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in the write-up I'm glad you mentioned that I was just sitting here reading the uh Florida tax watch turkey list there and it talked about the water quality projects that's a that was the 4.7 million dollars for the baffle boxes for the water quality project and and uh

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that it gets approved in the governor's budget and you can go back and refine your project description. You know, we may have an ability to turn this into both flooding and water quality issues there. And so so we'll we'll look at that but that was a baffle box um project um certainly uh five baffle

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already talked about that as a staff

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both the water quality and the flooding issues that are associated with this area? Thank

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Find that money, Mr. ‸ City Manager. Thank you, sir. Any other questions before I call the question? saying uh we have a motion on the floor by chair and a second by Councilman

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She was going to call the question. All in favor ‸ saying aye. Aye.

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Mayor,

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Rebecca, and this may be also city attorney there, and so uh ‸ I'm assuming your your uh motion and uh vote was on the staff recommendations. Is there anything, Abby or Rebecca, that you guys need in terms of engaging the engineering firm? um Is that going to be a piggyback? It's professional services, and so do we have to go out to RFP for that, or how do we get there as as a quick as possible?

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Abby would need to research if there is a contract that we could piggyback off of to facilitate the procurement side of it, and then uh dependent upon the cost of it. uh There would be budgetary measure need to be taken because this is not budgeted.

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So there'll be there'll be at least two steps there. We'd come back with the purchasing and budgetary action, then engage, and then they would be able to go on and do the study and and that. Abby, did you say there is a there is a contract? Okay. Okay. okay So I think we have what we need.

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Okay, thank you Thank you very much. uh Councilman, harran once again, you deliver for district number two, sir. Kudos to you. uh Going to item number seven dash three.

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We have motion on the floor by the chair and second by Councilwoman

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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying

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unanimously.

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for the

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uh the council directed that staff um bring some redrafted language back to the school board for further considerations and that language had to pertain to actually uh

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not-for-profits there.

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‸ additional options our counter offer, I would say. And so the first uh A is to just simply leave the uh the language in section 4.3 as originally drafted uh by the school board and and presented to the Council. The uh second option is uh is a outline and b and I can read that,

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request was to waive the fees and um and uh allow the the uh the use of the facility for up to the four events. um their twist on that is, ‸ is that the events would be sponsored by and hosted by the city annually through the calendar year. And so um we would be

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Yeah,

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yeah, we we there would be our events. um um um And so that's that's B

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D and C.

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host and and b and then we would make the selection in uh c I don't know how that differs from hosting, but but again, the the responsibility for the events would be on the city um with regards to B and C. Obviously, there's some liability if you are actually the sponsor and the presenter of the event. And so again, as we've outlined in the staff presentation that that is. um an additional administrative burden that current staff is unable to accommodate with our existing workload and resources. So, uh Mr. Mayor and council we have before you the three. uh uh options that were provided by the school board.

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Okay. I have

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think I should go first on the,

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don't like either one of these options. um

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issue for me. And just like the city manager said, I think our staff is already stretched out enough as it is to have to make a selection um of the the individual um individual non-profit that is going to be chosen.

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‸ the principal, and

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um Because I think when it got uh sent to her in the conversation, um the process really wasn't in play. So i i this is what I sent

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and staff already waives fees for individuals on time to time basis, depending on what that situation is.

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a way that you can still communicate with us and let us know uh if you have inside of that, it could be quarterly, it could be every two months, you let the city council and city manager ‸ whoever know, hey, um we we've had in the last four months, we've had two non-profits um that wants to use the facility. We approve, we didn't approve, they let us know, and keep us informed of that process. um And so if you you you, so the first one was CHS ‸ controls non-profit booking, as they already do. um Number two was, uh we'll accept application in order by date. That way, first come, first serve is already in place. You know, hey, I got it in December 1st. The second one came in at December 15th, and so on and so forth.

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and let us know um who they approve. We don't even really care about who they didn't approve. um And then we'll know uh we've hit the four, and we're done for the year, or we hit the two, and we start again next year. um And they already have a current process and protocol already in place for insurance.

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You have to get police. um If applicable for that applicant, you have to get security or janitors or lights. So

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um The only thing that that will be waived is just the facility fee, not the additional things, janitors and police and things of that nature. I sent it to her,

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thought was. She said she's cool with that, um with the process that we have in place, because this is very similar to what they already do. yeah It's through Facilitron. So they go to Facilitron. They book it through Facilitron. It gets sent to admin. Admin can say yes. Admin can say no. They make a bring the non-profit in to say, hey, look, what are you doing? Are you doing a um something something for homeless children? And okay what what is your process? Are you charging? Blah, blah, blah. um But they already have the process in place.

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um just in my opinion. And so um i this is exactly what I sent her. um I think this could be a part of our language. Maybe it may not be perfect, but this is just something that

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Each. Each non-profit um has to have a million dollars insurance to host anything at a public school, period. And so they're having event insurance for one day, two day whatever it may be. But their insurance company for the non-profit is responsible for the event. um just just Just like, uh I don't know how we do it on the Civic Center,

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Center might be a little different. But um

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policy. Okay.

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I don't want the city to be liable with none of this. No. Absolutely. So. I just

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Because they they already have a plan in play Okay.

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Yes.

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It may not be perfect, word for word, but this is how they go about uh approving and not approving an applicant,

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non-profits per year. So that's why I had to put the date. First come first serve.

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you know, I'm still looking at ‸ you know, liability

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legally

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I just don't want nobody to come back and say the city of

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if everything goes

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whatever, if things go sideways, out of character, I don't, I

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for the city be held liable.

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That's what I'm saying. If

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all liability is off the city of

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‸ the responsibility is on

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High School and his staff

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administration, then I don't have a problem with this. But i I just want to make sure, and how long do you want this contract? Perpetuity or do you come back and review it again? I'm just trying to cover all the bases.

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I i i think i think, just like anything that we do, you evaluate advantage of the opportunity. Let's see what it looks like. But yep yes, I think it needs to to, based on the

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this is something that is very simple. And minute and it's something that they already do. So we're not adding something additional to what they already do. Okay.

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district to utilize the facility, right? So it would be between a contract

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of it. Right? And, you know, that would be

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city is going to

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that, how the council is going to

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um some action by the city. Right? yeah Related to their event. right I just want

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to be clear.

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he said

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i I know, but i let me, this man get,

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his interpretation. So, so I just want to make sure because

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So I want to be able to, and and this is my alma mater. ‸ So I love my alma mater.

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As I understand, it's the 501c3 contracting with the, okay with the school. So that puts us out of that,

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option B would be with the city sponsoring an event. I mean, the city's going to have yeah potential liability exposure for sure.

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that option, um C seems to be the, uh less risky of the two options for sure.

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Okay. And you've has Denise responded as principal.

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uh But but i I will say

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than my initial conversation with her. Once I gave her some sort of a guideline, then it made sense. But before it was just me just talking about it. And so she wasn't with it at first. But once I broke these four things down, she said, this is very similar to what I already do. I do not approve every non-profit that comes to me. Sometimes I do say no because it just doesn't fit what we do. She said, but if you this is what we're doing, this is what they're cool with.

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what she's cool with,

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I think it's... He was next? Yeah, I'm sorry. You're next, Councilman

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then Councilwoman Weeks. Mr. City Manager, is your light on?

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Okay, sir.

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I just wanted to reiterate that this process that uh Deputy Mayor Goins proposed is actually very... uh It's a smooth process. I i actually... um I've been charged with uh hosting a large event over in Orange County next week. um because uh my employer we're partners of the school board so it was you go through facilitron you verify who you are they waive the fee uh you have to show your insurance um

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so it's very seamless um i don't see this being too much to ask for um so I'm certainly in favor of it.

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you say that they're already doing this. Why are we why are we adding to it if they're already doing this? Because well, I understand, but uh we don't want to be responsible. And the school is already ‸ approving giving non-profits uh a pass on this. So um I'm just wondering, what are we gaining by saying

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when they may be doing six in a year? uh So I'm just asking, what are we gaining by doing this? Yes, we're giving them money for for the school. oh

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So um ‸ they don't have a set number of non-profits that come to

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whatever that case may be. But now we know as a city, if we if we say that we are. um if we are pushing for four individuals or four non-profits to come to the table,

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be more advertised as well. that That we are, as a city, um making sure that our tax dollars from our citizens at least give us something, right? The the

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I folded on that because council and or or um the mayor and or and the principal as well was not with it, right? And so I folded on that. But but i i i I've been saying this for a couple ‸ weeks when a couple called me about the situation. We we have we have literally um gave

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something simple saying, hey, um give us something back. Give our give give citizens, give

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You can vote no on it. I don't really want to discuss it really like that. But I'm just, I'm i'm

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just, I don't know what we're gaining by the fact that they're already doing this. I mean, we can put it out there already to say, hey, that you could

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just saying at times she does give some individuals, like some churches, are doing

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But i'm I'm saying, ‸ hey, school board, get some skin in the game, right? You're coming to the table, I believe, maybe a matching, right? But we've given a lot more than

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is something that's simple that could be done.

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Is the school board ‸ okay, you've got the principal, but is the school board gonna

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‸ We'll find that out.

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Okay.

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This

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will be the second time we're meeting

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them.

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Yeah. So, so. but That's why I've been squeezing ‸ So, I, if they go against it and and and don't want it, that's fine too. All I'm doing is is what, I know what our mayor talks about a lot, with skin in the game. And so, I want more, right? But I know they're not going to stomach that based on our

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that we got with A, B, and C. So, I know they may not even like what we're doing right now. I'm not sure. But I know I'm willing to fight for it. I'm willing to make phone calls. I'm willing to make emails and say, hey, allow us, give us this. At least that, to me. It's just my opinion on this. um But but I believe us coming to the table

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have nothing to do with it.

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She and or administration are the bosses of that. We have nothing to do with that i

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but i but you understand

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public access should be on the table, but I'm willing to fold on it.

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So at least give me this. That's all I ask, please. Okay.

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‸ mr City Manager, are you finished? what i'm sorry Yes, sir. Okay.

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Mr. Mayor, I'll wait for you guys to vote, and then I'll tell you what I think the language is that you vote it off.

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Don't

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to... uh Do I have to even mention A, B, and C in my motion? I don't know So i i make a motion to uh allow the City Manager to go back to the table with the recommendation um that I laid out for the for Principal Stewart this morning um that allows these four items, and it may be more. They may they may have a whole nother process, but allow this to take place. and and I know that's a long motion, but...

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make a motion to

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to allow the City Manager to move forward with the conversation with Suhan and others regarding at least this Plan B of consideration. Which

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will eliminate the City of

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We got a second on the floor, right? uh uh councilman

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Where's the love? Yeah,

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yeah, right there, man. It's right there.

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Yeah,

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because I'm willing to bet. It's probably

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going to be a unanimous vote. Let me think.

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have the motion on the floor and the second? Motion by Deputy Mayor

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in the second. Councilman

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gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor saying aye. Aye.

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Manager. And so, Mr. Mayor, here's the language that I think you you all just approved. uh ‸ I'm on section 4.3 uh this is the language that was uh drafted by the city attorney's office the last time we

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sent it over. Because I think that's what you just did. yeah

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you said That language says, in addition, ‸ the school board agrees to waive its facility rental fees

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To utilize such facilities, the facility rental fee waiver shall be offered on a first come first serve basis to non-profit organizations. The school board may continue to enforce other requirements as are applicable to all renters pursuant to school board policies such as insurance obligations and security related requirements. Security deposits or cleanup fees. This is the the new sentence would

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to the city advising them of which 501c3 organizations have utilized their facilities.

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Okay. That's your second right. council mahera yep

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All right. Thank you very much. uh

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Ladies first. Okay. okay Let's proceed

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be complied with the requirements of House Bill 803-2026

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I think this should

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you noted House Bill 803, which

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the governor is effective July 1st and it amended what cities and counties can charge for the building permit fee schedules. And those permit fees had to be adjusted by July 1st of 2026. And

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Florida statutes, which relates to the building permits, inspections, private providers and local government permitting practices. It establishes requirements that affect our local building permit fee schedules and administration of our permit programs. And it requires us to modify our permits and practices and place additional limitations on fees that may be charged when private providers are utilized for plan review and inspection services. And a plan review and inspection services with private providers.

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review and uh inspections to provide with the flexibility for plans review ‸ to get them reviewed quickly and for inspections so that they can do timely inspections on their projects, um which typically exceed what the

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what we are able to do because a lot of times uh inspections are either early in the morning, pours or weekends and things like that. that have to be done done

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to meet certain deadlines. So a lot of our large developers do that. Some of the

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changes um currently in our uh current building permit fee schedule, we have a private private provider administrative review fee. um That has now been removed effective July 1st because it House Bill 803 prohibits that. our private provider permit fee reductions requires local governments to provide

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plans review and inspections. We currently have that in our plan and our fee schedule and we'll continue doing that as we move forward. one of the larger uh changes to the uh house bill 803 is residential permit exemption for certain work under 7 500. uh currently any project that is needing to be permitted within the city of coco regardless of the cost has to have a permit uh house bill does require us to exempt certain work for any work that is less than 7 500 on

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residential properties that exemption does not apply to structural electrical plumbing, mechanical gas work and work located within flood zone areas. And so we've had to modify our language language and a fee schedule to remove that. And

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schedule and in our website. ‸ Our re-inspection fee clarification. We had to make sure that our fees are scheduled because of failures on re-inspections, not because of fees that we've added for re-inspections.

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us from charging any registration fees for any review. uh fee structure documentation.

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‸ Charlene before you, so no administrative fee and no registration fee.

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uh we can charge an application processing fee and that's it,

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But the bottom line of all the changes, the the development is still going to pay for itself. There is no, you put on the agenda, there's no general fund subsidy. and There are

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no general fund subsidies as the the development does pay for itself and we're just modifying everything to comply with House Bill 803. And uh there

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our revenue is concerned based on some of this. But it should not be a very large impact to our our fee schedule. Do we

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under 7 500 they don't need a permit anymore. Is that what I'm hearing? So

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they will not need a building permit. But based on the uh zoning regulations that the city has in the in the zoning code,

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that will have to be approved by planning and zoning in order for the fence to in order to meet the setback requirements for fences, sheds, accessory structures. uh There will have to be a separate application through planning and zoning more than likely in order to um have them review those because we can't put them in our building permits as a as an application process. but

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uh planning staff reviews those right now. So so it's as a planning review. ‸ There's a building permit for the fence there. The building permit will go away. You don't need the fence permit. it'll be a planning. We have to come up with a way to get you in front of the planning staff to review setbacks and things like

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got you. Correct. So they still have to come to the city. It's not that they can just put up a fence. That's what I'm trying to find out. Correct.

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They cannot just put up a fence or a shed or accessory structure, uh even

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Okay.

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Thank you. I just wanted to make that was clarified. What are the wishes

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of council? Move to approve. Second. We've got a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Weeks and the second by Councilwoman

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Chair's gonna ‸ call the question. All in favor, by saying aye. Aye. Any nays?

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Proceeding on to item number

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Approve the multi-year law enforcement and fire dispatch services agreement with

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County Sheriff's Office. office and

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2026-495. This will be a savings. We remember at one of our meetings that we held a substantial savings of 1.3 million dollars annually uh mrs mary humbert ma'am i think this is a no-brainer but go ahead

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Good evening, council members. and good evening Tonight we're going to review the agreement

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As background, on May 19th, the council voted to approve the transition of

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Fire and Police Dispatch Operations to the Unified Communications Center for

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we seek approval of the city of

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Law Enforcement and Fire Dispatch Service Agreement.

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EMS police and fire dispatch services,

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and Teletype Functions, dispatch technology and communications support. The financial impacts, the contract term is starts on July 1st, 2026, and that goes through September 30th, 2029, which is 39 months total. For year one, annual dispatch fee was discounted in exchange for the transfer of dispatch assets and equipment.

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‸ The following fiscal years, 26 27 is 180 000 annual cost. 27 and 28 is another 180 000 and then 28 29 is 189 000 as you stated, Mayor, this is the yearly cost savings that we reviewed on May 19th. where the personnel costs are 1.4 the operating costs for 74k and

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estimated 180 a year for the three-year agreement and that's a total savings of 1.3 million a year Technology changes in governance. The technology changes, the dispatch batch consoles and related equipment will be transferred to BCSO ownership. They assume responsibility for dispatch related technology, maintenance, upgrades, licensing, and cyber security oversight. For governance, Brevard County maintains operational control of the UCC. The

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police and fire leadership retain operational coordination through regular review meetings and established escalation procedures. This agreement allows the city to transition dispatch operations to Brevard County Sheriff's Office

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coordination, technology support and operational efficiencies while maintaining police, fire, EMS response services for

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residents. We recommend approval of this multi-year law enforcement fire dispatch service agreement agreement with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office and approval of the BAF 26074 for 70K to move dispatch equipment. Also, you saw the updated exhibit C. That's just the list of equipment, the consoles that we would transfer over to Brevard County.

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I have a question, ma'am. Okay. If this is approved, our current dispatchers would go to the county level right now as they stand and still receive the same FRS or whatever the case may be.

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And uh years of service may remain other than the folks that were in probationary period. Okay.

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mean, that's is a no brainer.

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is working with the sheriff's office HR director, um to, to make that transition. But again, it's FRS. It

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um we have talked about as staff, uh covering the transition period where they can still utilize the clinic until their insurance kicks in. And so I think we're doing all we can to make this a smooth and uh ‸ humane uh transition from, um one agency to the next there. ‸ so ‸ we're looking at all of those issues. um I forget the, uh the payouts, the accrued sick and annual goes over with them. um and

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nuances that we talked about. I remember the clinic being one and I don't know, and this is a negotiated um uh union deal. So we're we're in conversation with the union um about the transition there. And so all of these have to be negotiated. But again, um recall what the sheriff's office put on the table. Everybody has an opportunity to go over. um They go over under a simplified background check. I remember that. And so it's not a full-blown long background check there. And so uh after a year, they become uh protected under civil service, uh those sort of things. Now, the, the, the, you know, again, people have planned out their vacations. And so that's, that's really not under our control

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to negotiate with the sheriff's office there. But I think, you know, as a, as your representatives, we we've done what we can to make sure that, that uh this is this life-changing event is, uh is as a, as a easy as possible and as fair as possible.

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So, um what are the wishes of council?

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councilwoman. costs she's gonna ‸ call the question all in favor saying aye

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aye aye

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any nays i just have it unanimously so yes sir

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I don't know if you guys already have a plan for this.

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uh becomes of the old dispatch location at the PD station.

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We don't have a plan for that right now. I see the, the, uh police chief over there smiling.

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He has his own plans, but we, the city

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don't have ‸ any plans right now. But again, he, he does have an idea of what he wants to do with that, with that, uh space. Put

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me an office over there.

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‸ Just tell him you're

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teasing

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here because uh you bring one of ‸ nothing. I'm gonna ‸ leave that alone. Okay.

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approval of a resolution amending fiscal year 2026 budget, accepting the Bureau of justice assistance fiscal year 25 bulletproof

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matching portion to the grant account number for a total amount of

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Project number

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That's the first time we did the

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and i want to make sure all our men and women have the proper tools in their tool bag. And I think we will have one for our emergency service as well for the fire department. So chair like to make a motion to approve. I'm gonna hear from you, miss Singer. I'm gonna hear from you. uh i'm making a motion I'm protected in a second by Councilwoman Weeks. Thank you, ma'am. Mrs. Singer, ma'am.

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Sir, I don't have anything other to add. I think this is um just really to ‸ point out the next three items or just to show you that um some grants that we are accepting and applying for, we want that to be public information. So we wanted to make sure it was announced.

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Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much. We have a motion on the floor in a second. ‸ just gonna ‸ call the question out in favor saying aye.

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Aye.

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‸ any nays

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proceeding forward to number five ‸ yes ma'am you're correct another program here council approval to apply the federal emergency management agency

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program

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well um

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if not I'll make a motion to approve move to approve got a motion on the floor by councilwoman weeks

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second

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second by councilwoman costs just gonna call the question you want to say anything as a single chief Lamb

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baby yes sir yes

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ma'am

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all in favor saying aye aye

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have it unanimously our last item for tonight I do support this program all three items four five and six like you all are Council approval to apply for the fiscal year 26 safer outcomes. Enhancing de-escalation and crisis response training for law enforcement.

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This is a great job. Yes, our officers need training for de-escalation during a crisis response. I do support this. um So I will make the motion to approve.

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question.

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want to share with us, Chief?

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I don't have anything. Yes,

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sir. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. Any nays?

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have it unanimously great job everyone proceeding on to reports uh mr city manager

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um yes sir three reports there's one from mrs singer uh one from the fire chief uh and then i'll i'll uh have some some comments myself

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so yes sir thank

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you sir you go first go ahead you're just quicker

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yeah all right thanks so uh i

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bucket uh round up and give away this saturday nine o'clock to noon at the

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That's this Saturday coming up. So we'll have several different tables set up Giving out different items to go into the buckets and be done. So um And sorry, but I have to take this opportunity. I want to say congratulations to my son Matt. yeah He just graduated the

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battalion military intelligence intelligence Silent warriors go get

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now. He's an airborne school.

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i saw that quite accomplishment on Facebook. They're proud there man. Yeah good ‸ yes Okay,

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so I am proud to show um this is the um result from the mural um So we submitted seven names to the National Fitness group who submitted a design um And I have a couple different angles to show you um But this shows you here um As you can see we've kind of combined an artwork design with the photos um that we have for each of the uh honorees and so there is also which you can't really tell in here a little bio for each one

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in the community that were selected for this. um So here is another angle here. um Again, you will notice in the artwork, each of the people that are depicted in the artwork um ‸ reflect the people in the photos as well. So the artwork is um reflective of the people that were chosen. So again, each photo um and bio is included as well as the artwork. So it's a mixture of both the artwork and um the real photos. and that gives you a little bit of a closer view of that artwork as well. um But it really shows you what it would look like. This is more of a flattened image of it. um

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will look like um installed at the park.

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That

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want the one that's closer? Yeah.

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There you go. Thank you, ma'am.

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You're welcome. ‸ So the other option, you know it will show you how the the side panels will have instructions for all of the fitness equipment that's there. But this is the front mural piece that reflects the community members that were selected by the public.

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Yeah. And I know you love when I do this,

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um for the folks that are living, actually, for everybody, their families, there are we going to reach out to them and ask if the photos are acceptable to them?

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submitted by his family because that's the one photo I could not find. um But yes, I can reach out to each of them and ‸ ensure that we have the right photos. Yeah.

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So we'll we'll do that. um but But a great job on the design of this. um And Samantha uh has a lot of input with the um with the foundation. So, so ‸ great job. um ‸ that

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all I had. Team Coco. Team Coco.

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uh final report from staff there. So I told you I was looking at the Florida Tax Watch turkey list there and I remind the council and the public that we're waiting on three um projects to be approved in the governor's budget there.

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uh uh again, which again, um if we if we get that amount of money, I think we have some. Hopefully so we can get creative and and uh and do some uh really creative and flexible things with regards to not only water quality, but uh flooding. um

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We did

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in the uh budget that went to the governor for ‸ provost park improvements there. And so uh so we we had a successful year, at least in getting things in the budget that went to the governor and

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veto those out of the budget. um ‸ And so uh it was a good year year for the city of

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And again, just to remind you on the federal level with regards to those earmarks, it was two million dollars for a fire station. And then uh I think it was a million dollars for water and our wastewater infrastructure improvement sort of, I'll say out west. So uh a good year. A great year. ‸ A great year.

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uh ‸ I just want to thank you and the staff,

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um I'm a firm believer in this. We will continue to defy them because they do not define who we are.

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a city of

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and we're doing remarkable things, not only just on

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local level, but we're being recognized on the state level and even a federal level. Because the last thing I recall,

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And I very first became a mayor under the

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dollars for the enhancement of our water facilities uh and our utilities

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at that time. So you know how far, far, far, far that goes back. So I'm thankful. I think I know we have eclipse that old tradition and we're doing some great things. And that's what it's all about. Team

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Thank you, Team

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Thank you, Team

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And thank you, Team

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to the citizens and council of this great city. Job well done, my good and faithful servant. Okay. Is that it,

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Hearn, tell me

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that way.

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short. i

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think It's fairly short, too, actually.

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Not mine. ‸ Mine is long and strong.

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okay well, it's an honor to be

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uh That was a great tour the other day. I really appreciated uh learning more about Coca-Cola. Not only do they employ 120 people out of the building on Clear Lake, but those are good jobs because I think Coca-Cola is considered one of the better employers in the country in terms of benefits and that sort of thing. And, of course, Brevard Humane Society, they're doubling their space. So they provide such a wonderful service to the community. And

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that they're doing as well as her catering service. She just has such great energy. And, of course,

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which, you know, they knew me. ‸ So earlier in the week,

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I think. Anyway, uh

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tonight at the front page of Florida Today for a manatee

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herd, mating herd. And

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It's

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manatee mating herd, and I had no idea. I mean, the thing is, we gathered around there, you know, this walking, and uh

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But there had to have been at least 16 manatee. And so what happens is the female goes into the most shallow waters to try to get away from the aggressive males. And so not only were, so we've really got a lot of photo action there, ‸ really up close and personal. And there

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So um ‸ that's a good spot to watch for uh ‸ manatee and other other marine life. And okay, I've never done this before. It's my eighth year. Okay,

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But well, I'll connect it to coco so my grandson competed in the uh track national competition in Bradenton and he came down and my husband and my

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took him. um Anyway, we had two

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students there in the orange running track so um he got uh fifth place which is 7.25 meters long jump that's his event but is now a four-time All-American.

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in North Carolina State. And then every time you compete in a national event from there, it's considered another All-American. So if you compete in two, you're a two-time All-American. ‸ in five and evidently college applications, look at that. So, um but our

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students were there as well. They weren't, it was not, um they had on their

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uniforms. They weren't representing the school because the school did not bring a delegation to this particular national competition. But nonetheless, um they were showing their tiger pride. Amen. And that's my report.

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All right. So, uh forgive me, I don't have my pictures this week.

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uh from Thursday. So, I'm actually preparing to travel out of state.

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Training emer for Emergency Management. uh I had the honor to see our fabulous fire chief. He uh was actually giving a lecture there, and uh he actually did a really great job. Really, really great job. um I saw a few of our other staff there as well. uh So, this uh event they have every year, it was in Orange County this year. You actually can learn,

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security There was all kind of resources being given out. So uh it's a very, very helpful event if you're interested in all things emergency management uh and beyond. So I'll present those photos uh next meeting. um Also,

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Park. um It's just a little small community event uh for the neighbors, the surrounding neighbors of that park, where we'll be giving out some food, uh hot dogs and things, and we have some fun activities we're going to be doing outside.

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was informed that it is getting painted. um There's just a little slight delay. um A question I had were the colors of the paint already picked out, or is that something that can still be orange and blue? If not, someone that gave me an idea at the event next week, if I could take a poll on on colors that maybe the community would love to see the uh court painted. So

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we will reach out to the vendor and see if that's an option.

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Okay, perfect. Perfect. oh and the handprint. So uh that was another idea that was brought up as well.

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So it's like you say, you

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reach out to the vendor and see if that's possible. um ‸ and I believe that's it for the moment. I'm sorry.

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Yes.

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Yes. um I think I stated uh there's been some improvements some minor improvements taking place at Anderson Park. The fencing, uh there was trees that were trimmed and it looks really nice. um If you all get a chance to ride by Anderson Park, like every evening it's it's packed with kids playing basketball. They're on the playgrounds. um

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the basketball court. So uh we're doing a great job, council and staff, on uh bringing those uh parks up. So thank you all for the support for that. that

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don't know if he has pictures in. Did

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you get your pictures in yeah it's

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Okay, um so this was an event I attended last week. um uh Former state rep angela nixon is running

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event Great to get out and talk some crazy politics sometimes. um This is um the KOP fundraiser ‸ breakfast that they had. Really pretty cool. I didn't know that Longhorn cooks breakfast for non-profits and they allowed them to keep 100 of the proceeds, which was awesome. um So they had pancakes and eggs uh and bacon. um And so that was an awesome event for uh Thomas Cole and the community to come out and support these young men. um This was the Saving Our Sons event. um

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Pastor Jarvis did this maybe 10 or 11 years ago. But it was a good opportunity to get out um and serve the young people, especially these teenagers. we We know um that it's easy for them to go left. And uh

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It really was never about the tie. It was about just having conversations that even some of these young people, some of them stressed out. And I know they don't

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don't have

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‸ out of their control. And so

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um Thank you to Metropolitan um for allowing um the event to take place in their facility. We did interviews and we cried. We, it was, I did.

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Yeah, so it's a it's a lot going on in young people life. I just say that. And so sometimes you see crimes and stuff happening from young people. It's a lot of things going on in their mind as well. So just to take time and have that conversation with them it was

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awesome event. um

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at Pillars pillars of Hope. If you

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5 20 on the right hand side. um A lot of their students are, ‸ maybe some young people that have a little issues with at public schools.

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And and this was a great opportunity to to get out and support these young people. uh The two young men up top uh lost their parents um to ‸ overdose uh with uh last year, a year and a half ago, um

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They just graduated high school, right? And so that was a great opportunity for them to be in a school that accepts them and and understands their situation. And so uh ‸ appreciate uh Mr. Lyons and his wife for for serving the community in in a capacity that's not really um the normal path, I would say.

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uh Sister Jewel Collins. um You know, she she raised me when I was little. I think she thought I was her child at one time, too. uh but But just spending the time, um especially on the political side, where just the encouragement. um I've been fortunate enough to be around some great women um that that has helped save my life. And I really appreciate her and her family and her family ‸ for allowing us to be a part of her life and and them sharing her with us. um Her funeral this this Saturday, um I believe, is at 10 o'clock. uh The viewing is at 10. The uh service ‸ at 11 o'clock at

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Boulevard, Church of Christ. um I'm pretty sure we're probably gonna ‸ be standing outside. uh But but but it's just, it was she means a lot to our family. And so

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well. And so I just wanted to honor her with with a photo. She always i always mess with all the time about,

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a date. uh But but she's gonna ‸ be missed uh tremendously. And uh

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um I i i would end with this uh this. um

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week has been a real emotional week for me, uh personally. um I probably lost uh uh

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that I've either grown up with or people that have raised me that have passed away. So I i will end with this and say uh uh ‸ love on your family. uh Take care of yourself health wise as well. uh Because we really truly don't know what the

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around the corner. um And ‸ so uh even though you know on council we we go through different challenges and uh different things we may not always agree with. um But I truly believe it that that we are moving in the right direction. um I only have a few months left. But i I truly enjoy uh being up here. I love arguing with our mayor. It's really the highlight of my day. That's

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But but i live

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I seriously say that, that you just truly don't know. And so cherish every day. Go home. Hug on your family. i just say that again. thank you

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sir. Thank

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Okay, District

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So the mayor and I attended the graduation for the adult um education uh on

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and this was

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this was all the group that was there, including Senator Wright. uh it was uh It was so emotional because the people, as they came across the stage, you know, they were all ages. And uh obviously, you know, second chance for many of them. And the ones who spoke were so um eloquent about some of their struggles. You know, what a single mom uh and going back to school and never thought she would. And now she was graduating. him

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get emotional just talking about it. But it was shaking hands

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that we shook hands with that night. And this

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But uh that was the view from the stage as the group came in and the crowd. I

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as they came across their families. were so excited. It was awesome. And then, I did, uh Meals on Wheels again. The realtors did a volunteer day and you heard them say 35 of us did Meals on Wheels. And, um so that was, uh again, a real privilege and honor to get to, to, uh do that and, uh deliver those meals to those folks. And then, uh this was actually us last night at, um the, uh League of Cities and, um uh

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spoke on that one. And of course that's

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And then, uh weekend before last, I went to, um Arkansas and I have to share my family picture. This is us in birth order. That's my oldest sister on the left. She's 71. Our brother was in between, then me,

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how she looks. um my, my, we always say she has all her original parts anyway. um and then my sister, my sister Debbie, and, uh then my youngest sister Kim, and, uh we had a wonderful weekend and, uh this was us after church. We went out to eat. so anyway, it was just a great time to get to spend together. And then my granddaughter is working here and this was the welcome that she got and, uh she is just loving it. She says, Grandma, they're so nice. And uh I said, just make me proud and do a good job. So uh I'm looking forward to hearing that she is doing so because I know she's a hard worker. But, you know, um i I I'm just very proud of her in in doing that. And uh so thank you all here at City Hall for welcoming her. And keep her in line, would you? um And then I've got a few extra things here. um The business tour. I didn't you shared the picture with that, but it was awesome. Thank you so much. That was a really good day. And um and I have to address something because people keep asking me. um Obviously,

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I am

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not sick. That's what people keep asking. Are you sick? No, I am not sick. ‸ I did this on purpose. So, but I just want to make sure because people keep asking,

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know, they watch or whatever and and have seen me and they keep asking. I just um I'm much healthier. I'm now in the normal range for body mass index. And uh I'm very grateful that this has uh that it worked so well. So I'll be happy to share that with you if anybody wants to ask how I did it. And Friday, I'm flying to Washington, DC for uh NAR mid-year business meetings. I'll be gone for six days and meeting with elected officials and um committees that I'm on and all that stuff, all meetings. So uh that will be good. And then in case you didn't know Bill Posey's funeral is this Saturday as well.

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I know. It's same time. So

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yes, sir. A lot going

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on.

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Yep. So anyway, but thank you all very much. That's it for me.

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Okay. Check that slide out, baby.

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I know. Turn it on. man I know, right? Why can't I? Look at him.

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you. Okay. This is an event that was held just me prior to going to what? uh Washington, DC. I'm supposed to go there, but I don't think

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This is with the um United Way. That's wiggle the worm. We were giving out books with the United Way. uh Former Sheriff Mary Kelly uh and myself, Principal Murphy was there. Not only there, but also the Child Hunger Society were present at the facility at Endeavor Elementary. As you can see, we're giving out books to the kids,

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Kids. To my right in the corner, that's miss Tracy Harris.

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pre-K, not pre-K, but first graders on up for the summer. Kids are still able to get a summer snack for the summer to take home. If the school is open,

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But also reading is fundamental. gotta stimulate that brain. uh You can see, there's a reason why Tracy's in the picture,

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I'm sure you guys will see. Having a great time there. And

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number two. um This is the United Way group as well, as you can see. And myself, all the workers there, United Way was giving to the our left that card of food ‸ There. Now, here's the reason why. You can see, I think she's called Goldie. She's a chicken. They raised chicken there and eggs. So part of their educational program. And needless to say, I've known Tracy, I taught her daughter. um And uh Cheyenne, I'm happy to say, ‸ she also teaches at on the primary school education. he's Needless to say, we had a great time. It was a handful time, shall I say. Cock-a-doodle-doo. um These are some of the kids we were at the graduation at base. uh uh Their last name is Blake. uh And their family member

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taking a photo in that baby blue, just for you. And my blue suede shoes. That's Karen and his sister, Blake. Karen, rather. Sorry, ma'am. See, we shared the same photo. but In between Councilwoman Weeks and myself is my former student. She's performed here once before. uh Destiny Battles. ‸ Yes. and Beautiful voice. Elegant voice. um As you can see from uh yours truly, Dr.

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uh Mrs. Campbell, School Board

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uh Councilman Mayor, rather, Connor, uh one of my other former students, School Board Member, Megan Wright. No, what's

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last name? ‸ Yeah, is it? Okay. And then State Senator Wright, then

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Trent, then Councilwoman Weeks, then Destiny and myself. And there's a few other pictures that we took that has shook up the world, but we counted all joy. uh Yeah. Yeah. That's just how fire spreads, but they don't know. But they do now. So this is Councilwoman Weeks and myself. We decide to select blue as our color.

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Again, this is United Way giving out the books and the child,

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Society? Children? Sorry, I said child because

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that. Children. Thank you. Point of Correction. I apologize. This is

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Has Talent.

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got talent. Myself, that was a great event. Mindy at Light Rock. You remember Amy from

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that judging.

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mean, it's tough. The competition was very stiff and steep. I mean, you didn't have a chance to make a mistake. You must be inspiring to the children and adults. Proud Wayne, I was Sheriff Wayne Ivey and his staff. All the tables were there, great contributions and major attendance there, ranging from all elected officials and business owners. And they were raising funds as for the Humane Society there

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This is the Coopers and myself and Mindy at the event.

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at the event as well. Everyone is looking sharp, so sharp that even a cat can't even scratch us. That's how sharp we are. And I just want to say thank you to our staff for your commitment and dedication to the 400 plus employees,

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I just would like to say to you, buy local, spend local, keep it local. We recognize your great works. God bless you all in these great United States. Chair entertains the motion to adjourn. Move to adjourn.

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looking for a second. Second.

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And we thank you. Great.

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Thank you.

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