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City Council

Special City Council Meeting

Date
2025-03-18
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1219
Also captured via
YouTube mirror (1qdteLBp5EE) ↗ — alternate recording of the same meeting; primary transcript shown above.
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (2230_03_18_2025.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: the minutes print an “ABSENT” heading with no names under it.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Monica Arsenault (City Clerk), Abigail Morgan (Public Works Director), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief), Evander Collier IV (Police Chief), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Samantha Senger (Communications and Economic Development Director), Robert Beach (Chief Technology Officer), Jennifer Webster (Planner)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (9)

  • to approve the agenda for the Special City Council meeting of March 18, 2025 as written (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • 2. Minutes: (a) Regular Meeting of January 28, 2025. (2025-168) — to approve the minutes for the Regular City Council meeting of January 28, 2025 as written (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • Consider the Appointment of Joseph Bachand, Russell Sengel or Keith Wall to Fill One Regular Member Vacancy and One Alternate Member Vacancy — to appoint Russell Sengel as a Regular member and Keith Wall as an Alternate member (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • 2. Council Approval to Apply for a Phase 2 - Construction Grant Waterway Assistance Program (WAP) Grant Through the Florida Inland Navigatio — to apply for a Phase 2 Construction Waterway Assistance Program (WAP) Grant Through the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) for the Construction of a New Docking System and Riprap Revetment to Replace and Protect the Day Slips That Were Destroyed by Hurricanes lan and Nicole Located at the Cocoa … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 5–6
  • Approve the FY 2024-2025 HOME Disbursement Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County in the amount of $401,671.98. Approve a Re — to approve the FY 2024-2025 HOME Disbursement Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County in the amount of $401,671.98. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF#25-047-A for the current Allocation (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 5–6
  • 2 Request Council approval to contribute $1,216.00 for Major Abby Sweetwine sign to be located in the Habitat for Humanity Female Veteran's — to approve a contribution of $1,216.00 for Major Abby Sweetwine’s sign to be located in the Habitat for Humanity Female Veteran's Village in Diamond Square L CRA; Authorize the City Manager to approve the budget adjustment for the amount approved by Council, on the monthly Budget Adjustment Cleanup (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 5–6
  • 3. Direction regarding fluoridation of the Potable Water System. (2025-231) — to direct staff to continue the fluoridation capital project which will continue the practice of fluoridation of the potable water system by using 0.7 parts per million, with discussion. L Councilmember Hearn reiterated that he is hesitant to move forward with committing such a large amount of money … (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Patricia Weeks); CARRIED 4-1; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn; nays: Lorraine Koss — the City's minutes, pp. 9–10
  • to adjourn the Special meeting of March 18, 2025 (moved by Mike Blake, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Patricia Weeks, Alex Goins, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $401,671.98 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve the FY 2024-2025 HOME Disbursement Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County in the amount of $401,671.98.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2230_03_18_2025.pdf, pp. 5–6); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1,216.00 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “approve a contribution of $1,216.00 for Major Abby Sweetwine’s sign to be located in the Habitat for Humanity Female Veteran's Village in Diamond Square L CRA; Authorize the City Manager to approve the budget adjustment for the amount approved by Council, on the monthly Budget Adjustment Cleanup” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2230_03_18_2025.pdf, pp. 5–6); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $150,232 — Council: Consent agenda item 5, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve TO #2025-4 in the amount of $150,232 to McKim and Creed using Continuing Service Agreement Q-23-12-COC-C for the engineering design of West Central Avenue Watermain Relocation Project.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2230_03_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $576,182.50 — Council: Consent agenda item 5, approved with the Consent agenda. “The estimated construction cost 4 for this project is $576,182.50.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (2230_03_18_2025.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

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I. Opening Matters

  • 1. Call to Order
  • 2. Invocation
  • 3. Pledge of Allegiance
  • 4. Roll Call

II. Approval of Agenda and Minutes

  • 1. Agenda: Special Meeting of March 18, 2025.
  • 2. Minutes: Regular Meeting of January 28, 2025.

III. Awards and Presentations

  • 1. Women's History Month Proclamation

IV. Delegations

V. Consent Agenda

  • 1. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY 2025 Budget, BAF #25-038-A1, A2, & T to Reconcile the Match and Grant Portion of Fiske Blvd. Complete Streetscape Project.
  • 2. Approve a Resolution Amending the Fiscal Year 2025 Budget by way of BAF 25-045-IFT (1-3) to shore up the Inter-Fund Transfers Across all Funds/Departments.
  • 3. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY 2025 Budget, BAF# 25-044-A1&A2, to shore up Assigned Fund Balance Projects (AFBP) 21 and 22.
  • 4. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY 2025 Budget, BAF #25-027-A1-3 and T to Shore Up City Grants and Solid Waste Expenses.
  • 5. Approve BAF-046-PT for the funding of design for the West Central Avenue Watermain Relocation Project. Approve TO #2025-4 in the amount of $150,232 to McKim and Creed using Continuing Service Agreement Q-23-12-COC-C for the engineering design of West Central Avenue Watermain Relocation Project. The estimated construction cost for this project is $576,182.50.
  • 6. Approve the date change for the Space Coast Classic Runners15k and 2miler race.
  • 7. Approve Aggregation of Lots (Unity of Title) for Oxbow Circle, Lots 7 & 8.
  • 8. Approve the Aggregation of Lots (Unity of Title) for Oxbow Circle, Lot 26 & 27.
  • 9. Request Council to approve the Cocoa Police Department to enter in a MOA with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
  • 10. Approve BAF#25-043-T for Brightly Software (SBITA) Account Correction, in accordance with Governmental Accounting Standards Board(GASB) requirements. Approve a Resolution Amending the Budget for future GASB 87 Leases and GASB 96 Multi-Year Service-Based Information Technology Arrangements (SBITA), within the City Managers Signing Authority.
  • 11. Request approval for a multi-year agreement between the City of Cocoa and Parrish Medical Center for Occupational Health Services effective March 18, 2025, through March 17, 2028, and authorize the City Manager to execute any renewal terms per agreement.

VI. Public Hearings

VII. Council Business

  • 1. Council Approval to Apply for a Phase 2 - Construction Grant Waterway Assistance Program (WAP) Grant Through the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) for the Construction of a New Docking System and Riprap Revetment to Replace and Protect the Day Slips That Were Destroyed by Hurricanes Ian and Nicole Located at the Cocoa Waterfront. Approve Resolution #2025-XXX. Authorize the City Manager to Execute the Grant Application. — 00:22:45

VIII. City Business

  • 1. Approve the FY 2024-2025 HOME Disbursement Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County in the amount of $401,671.98. Approve a Resolution Amending the FY25 Budget, BAF#25-047-A for the current Allocation. — 00:24:21
  • 2. Request Council approval to contribute $1,216.00 for Major Abby Sweetwine sign to be located in the Habitat for Humanity Female Veteran's Village in Diamond Square CRA. Authorize the City Manager to approve the budget adjustment for the amount approved by Council, on the monthly Budget Adjustment Cleanup. — 00:25:20
  • 3. Direction regarding fluoridation of the Potable Water System.

IX. Informational Agenda

  • 1. FY 2025 February Budget Adjustment Report.
  • 2. In accordance with City Code, Section 2-74, at the beginning of each month during the fiscal year, the City Manager shall submit to City Council data showing the relation between the estimated and actual income and expenses to date.
  • 3. In accordance with the Financial Operations Manual (FOM) the City Manager shall submit to City Council in the form of an agenda item any approved change orders to construction contracts that the City Council has authorized the City Manager, by resolution, to approve in excess of the City Manager’s spending authority.
  • 4. Informational Only - The City of Cocoa's Open Board Vacancies.
  • 5. Bi-Weekly Report for February 21, 2025 - March 13, 2025.

X. Reports

XI. Adjournment

XII. Notice to the Public

Transcript Partial transcript

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Ladies and
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gentlemen,
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Councilwoman Cross, the leaders in the Pledge of Allegiance,
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So, everyone
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please stand. I pledge first.
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Yes, please.
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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
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And
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to the republic for which it stands.
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justice for all.
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morning, sir.
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If everyone
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Dear Heavenly Father, I'd like to give thanks to you for allowing everyone
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Amen.
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Madam Clerk, may we
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a little call, please.
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Yes, sir. Mayor Blake. ‸ Present, ma'am. Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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Here.
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Councilmember Goins. Here. Councilmember Hearn.
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Here.
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Councilmember Koss. Here. City Attorney Ike.
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Here.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. We'd like to say thank you very much for the roll call. Ma'am. Proceeding on to item number 2-1. Agenda. Special meeting of March the 18th, 2025. What are the
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2025. What are the wishes of Council?
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‸ Second by Deputy Mayor Weeks. Just gonna ‸ call
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Aye. Aye's have it unanimously. Proceeding on to awards and presentations. Okay. We would like counsel to please come forward. Please reach down front for proclamation. Please ma'am. Please sir. The first one will be professional weeks proclamation.
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Good evening everyone. So tonight I'll read in this proclamation. Whereas the Florida Government Finance Officers Association is a professional association founded in 1937 and serves more than 3,300 professionals from state, county and city governments, school districts, colleges and universities, special districts and private firms. And whereas the ‸ FGFOA is dedicated to being your professional resource by providing opportunities through education, networking, leadership and information. And
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organizations is a week long series of activities.
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our state and our community. And whereas during this week government finance professionals throughout the state of Florida will be acknowledged for their hard work, dedication and leadership. Now, therefore, mayor Michael C. Blake as mayor and on behalf of the city of Coco city council do hereby proclaim March 17th through the 21st, 2025 as government finance professionals
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all government finance professionals throughout the state and
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Let's give them a round of applause. And I like at this time to present this proclamation to Miss Bowman.
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Not only can she use the advocates, but she can also utilize the slide room. Y'all know about that? I'm telling my age this generation do not understand that.
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Compete. One, two,
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Jeez. All right.
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Let's give our finance department a round of applause. Their records are clean and pristine for
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eight years.
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Clean.
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No strikes against them. Now, before
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several of us here, several of the ladies that have impacted my life here with the city of Cocoa.
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from 19 years all the way up to 20, maybe 30 and greater. So
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Miss Florida Gardner, Miss Sammy Robbins, Miss Heidi Byron, Miss Rosemary McGill, Bethany Foster, Vicki Lakeman, Susan Young, Pat
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Let's give these ladies a round of applause. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir.
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them are 20 plus years strong. Several over 30 years committed and dedicated to making our city the best place to live,
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So I thank you ladies for being the backbone of our great city of Cocoa. So again, let's give these ladies a round of applause.
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Whereas the 2025 Women's History theme is
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This theme celebrates the significant roles women play in leadership, mentorship, and education, and their impact on shaping the future. Whereas this timely theme highlights the crucial roles women have played in education,
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and their profound influence on shaping the minds and futures of generations. ‸ Whereas in the city of Cocoa, there are many women who educate, advocate, mentor, and inspire young people to achieve their dreams, break barriers, and make a positive impact in their communities and the world. And whereas is it essential to support and recognize the importance of women in education and mentorship, and to continue fostering an environment where future generations can thrive through the guidance and wisdom of women. Now therefore, I,
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behalf of the city council of the city of Cocoa, do hereby proclaim this month of March 2025 as Women's History Month.
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All right, let's give the ladies a round of applause. Teamwork makes the dream work. If I may, I'll be remiss.
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mayors that we've had in our beautiful city. Judy, Judy Parrish is another one that just comes to the top of my mind.
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um, also has been instrumental in our city, shaping and developing our city to where we are now. Because, guess what, ladies and gentlemen? We are on
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the
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Thank
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you very much.
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Okay, if you have one of those white cards, please turn your card in for this particular item. At the end, I know. Dr. Anthony, Ms. Singer, raise your hand, please, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. Please make sure you
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if it's pertaining to the fluoride issue with the warder.
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point three. Thank you very much. Okay, right now I only have one card for delegations. Let me make sure. Ladies and gentlemen. Okay, fantastic. All right, on the delegations.
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please come forward, sir? Be mindful we have about three minutes to expound on your particular item. Please be aware that delegation is up to 30 minutes and if we supersede that time, we must extend the time.
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Thank you. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Thank you for letting me speak.
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I had placed, with the help of Samantha and Monica, this one page item in front of you all.
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They're actually doing what we're in the process of creating. And I thought it'd be good reading for you all to get this information if you haven't seen it already. I think this is nothing but a win-win and a plus-plus. Melbourne definitely need it. And we're trying to be able to be ahead of the game and be able to get things on a roll without waiting for problems to develop and then, you know, be reactive instead of proactive. The
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for getting angry at the budget meeting.
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And it can't happen if I keep seeing arguments over really minor things that happened during the meeting. And this has been a growing problem. ‸ The thing I'm getting at is that if there is a statute guideline ‸ that needs to be followed, don't take it personal. Like you're being told only no, you can't do that. And I'm seeing the reaction being handled when an issue like this comes up as if that one council member is being attacked personally. That's not it. It's the city manager doing a very good job following the charter. And ‸ it bothers me to see the mayor, the city manager, the city attorney, all the most reputable and have been here for 30, 40 years. These are people that truly want to do the right thing.
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a debate or argument when there's something that the city manager wants to do. Now, in reference to the ‸ ethics commission, I have a letter here that basically states why that was sent. It was me and my constituents with the commercial property group that felt it was important because it was a letter that was sent by a
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to try to convince them to reconsider a permit that was going to be reissued for this particular property. Not my property. Okay. But it was looked upon as if it was me being attacked when I was not. This is a situation on another property that you cannot do that to new development people. It is wrong. And I've got the paperwork and the recording to prove
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it.
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filed, I have available for anybody that's interested. Thank you.
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I just want to say that that has been brought up eight times now. Eight times that's been brought forward. The letter that went to St. John's was, in fact, an inquiry. And that's really clear.
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Madam Clerk, do we have any additional cards for delegations?
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No, sir. We do not.
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Okay. Thank you. This concludes this portion of delegations. Proceeding forward to item number five, the consent agenda item. What are the wishes of council? Motion to approve. We have a motion
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Second. Second by Councilman Goins. She's going
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call the question all in favor by saying aye.
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Aye. Aye.
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have it unanimously. Okay. Proceeding. Thank you, sir.
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one regular member vacancy, one alternative member vacancy on the PNZ zoning board. Please be mindful that you do have a document to your right, ‸ this voting column.
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And three being the lowest. You see the three names. If I may, there is a regular seat that's open. There is an alternate seat that's open.
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And then there's an additional alternate seat that is open. Is that correct, Madam Clerk? That is correct, sir. Is there anything that you think you would like to share with us, ma'am?
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The only thing I will say is Mr.
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is already an alternate. So depending on how you guys decide to vote, he'll either move up into the regular member seat or he will remain an alternate. And you guys will have to fill the regular member seat as well as an additional alternate vacancy.
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Right. Now, thank you, ma'am. Point of clarification, too, as well. So, Mr.
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is an alternate, as the city clerk alluded to.
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The current chairman is under the leadership of Mr. Wesley Park. And Mr. Wall was on a previous board. And now he's wanting to serve in a higher capacity and come to the PNZ.
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So the question is, how do you rank these gentlemen? We're going to do a tally count, as we know. Please, do you want it in pen or ‸ is pencil acceptable along with our signature? Okay, I have a pen just in case, so it's
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authentic.
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All right, do we have any questions before we complete this ballot?
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I just wanted to say, I know you mentioned the other two candidates, their qualifications,
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estate and is quite familiar with planning and zoning ordinances and the like.
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you very much. Make sure you sign it.
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Will the finance director do this?
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Here's my ballot ma'am. Thank you ma'am. So yes sir. Thank you sir. Okay in the meantime as we
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thank you all for participating in
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because it's the form of government that's closest to the people
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didn't have any green on you know you know the outcome but I just want to say thank you to you all we endured this beautiful weather another beautiful day in beautiful downtown Cocoa, Florida. And as the the ladies
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the scores there and share the results with us I think it's important and I appreciate it.
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Okay.
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So the one with the lowest number will be the person that's filling the empty seat and then the second will be first alternate and the third will be second alternate.
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Okay sir I think we have the results tallied.
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Yes ma'am would you share that information with us because this is an official document. Yes ma'am.
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an alternate ‸ so
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maintains the alternate and then you guys have the option to decide if you want to put Keith Wall into that. Other alternate yes.
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For right now. I'm in favor of.
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just say make that part of your motion.
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just going to second your motion.
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like to make a motion to approve the results stated by city clerk. Number one as a regular member will
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The second will be
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and the second alternate will be Mr. Wall. And we have a motion on the floor by the chair and a second.
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going to call
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Thank you very much. Let's give them a round of applause please. Okay. Next will be item number two. Council approval to apply a
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as WAP grant for the Florida Inland Navigation District for the construction of the new docking system and
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that were destroyed by
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this grant application.
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As you all know this funding will be implemented by the district find which has been a very instrumental portion to us and I would like to make a motion to approve staff recommendation for phase two of this grant.
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Okay. Second.
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Just gonna ‸ call the question all in favor
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‸ saying
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aye. Aye.
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it unanimously. Proceeding on to city business item number 8-1, approved fiscal year 2024-2025, home disbursement agreement
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by Deputy Mayor Weeks this is a no-brainer great job everyone all in favor of saying aye
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This is a no-brainer.
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‸ Authorize the city manager to approve the budget. Make the adjustment for the amount approved by council on this monthly budget adjustment cleanup as you know mrs. Sweetwine is known as angel platform number six during her time doing this her time as being in the nurses for the United States Air Force during the 1950s she would put an X mark on the individual's forehead for receiving morphine and the letter excuse me
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letter M for morphine and the letter X for receiving ‸ treatment and this is a heroic effort by this young lady and she
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buried laid to rest at National um excuse me Arlington National Cemetery and I'm thankful for Space Coast Habitat Diamond Square in the city of
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no mr. mayor it is that the
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and the city's requesting to pay a third and and the sign will be it will have a QR code ‸ on it that will tell the history of
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so visitors who are walking down Whaley Street will be able to learn more about her her story and uh and what she did to uh to to benefit the the medical industry at that
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to approve.
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the floor by Councilwoman cost and a second by deputy mayor weeks and yes ma'am yes sir this is
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woman's money
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for tonight that's
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it now
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let me set some parameters please if someone comes up and I'm not going to deny you from your amendment one freedom of speech I do have multiple cards here in front of me
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tell me what's the magical number you have there sir I do have more than 12 cards I can just based on the thickness but if someone who has similar thoughts and ideas of you or they reflect and it's equitable along of what you speak about, maybe you would consider doing this. Please, ma'am. Please, sir.
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will listen to everyone.
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cards. You have three minutes. So, and and I know we're all empathetic. We don't want sympathy. We want empathy. Because then I know you care. And that's why you're in this room. Good, bad, or indifferent. We're still red-blooded Americans okay yes ma'am yes sir yes ma'am yes sir thank you kindly all right first on the list Okay, and we're going to proceed in this order. Thank you, uh ‸ councilman. Sir. First on the list, um
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yes ma'am come forward please ma'am
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Good evening.
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I'm Dr. Jane Benton, and i thank you. I appreciate the opportunity to speak this evening. I'm a pediatrician, a parent, a grandparent, and I'm a member of this community. I'm not in the habit of speaking at public forums. However, I'm very concerned about removal of fluoride from our drinking water. There's no question fluoride is extremely important in the prevention of cavities. You may think dealing with the cavities ‸ a simple matter of going to the dentist and getting a filling in a tooth or two, but it is much more than that, and most of us would agree that sitting at the dentist's seat, respectfully, uh
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not a lot of fun either. um Some young children requiring extensive dental work must be subjected to general anesthesia. That's not
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nutrition, which in turn leads to other health problems. A
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mouthful
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of cavities contributes to missing school days. Fluoride at a safe level is effectively and safely decreases cavities. For those who want to remove fluoride, they likely have the luxury of deciding whether to get fluoride through their dentist or through supplementing water at home. That's not the case for everyone. If people want to have a choice, those who do not want fluoride in their water can purchase purchase fluoride free bottled water or filter their water at home. If you do not personally understand the research regarding what fluoride why fluoride is important in our drinking water, I ask that you not make an emotional or political decision about this service. The addition of fluoride to our drinking water has been a tremendous community health success. To remove it would burden individuals as well as our community and providing care to those affected. The bottom line is removing fluoride from our drinking water will hurt kids who may have no other protection from dental disease. Thank you.
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let me be ‸ first to apologize. Because normally I will hear either from the city manager or
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to the portion of listening to the audience. Let me get your opinion. Would you like to continue listening to the audience first or would you like to hear from um our city manager or ‸ utilities to director? What are the wishes of Council?
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So you'd like to hear from the audience? Would ‸ like to hear from the audience? sure Is that good with you, Councilman
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is that good with you?
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Yes, sir. Okay, come on down. I feel like Bob Barker, sir.
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Hey, good evening. My name is John
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I live at [address] […].
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I've been involved in a seven-year trial against EPA for fluoride. ‸ And after seven years,
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we brought experts from around the world, ‸ And one of the highest courts in this country has concluded, without a doubt, in an 80-page decision, that fluoride poses a threat to human health. One of our top health agencies, the top health agency in this country, HHS, has declared that fluoride poses a threat to human health. Florida's top health officer. Florida's top health officer has declared that fluoride is a threat threat to human health. The idea that a city council member has the right to force its citizens, especially their children, to take a drug goes against everything that this country stands for. If anybody took their children to a dentist and that dentist forced that child to a fluoride treatment, they would immediately, immediately lose their license. I have given at least half a dozen speeches before this county, this city council. And I work for one of the organization that
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you, ‸ so you understand,
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of public water systems, hundreds of city council members, just like you, have looked at the evidence, have taken to time to analyze the evidence, and have taken taken fluoride out of their public water system since the trial ended back in September. and
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to take fluoride out of their public water systems because they looked at and they read the evidence. And if all of this put together doesn't resonate with you, then I'm not sure what will. Thank you very much.
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you very much, sir. Okay, next will be Dr. Mary Bruno, please.
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I am Dr. Mary Bruno. I am an educator at Eastern Florida State College. I teach in the dental assisting and dental hygiene programs. I have taught
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allied dental education for 25 ‸ plus years. An important public health policy that has been long-standing oral health initiative that is safe and efficacious in reducing cavities for children is the addition of adding fluoride to the water. water
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was instituted across the u.s in the 1940s and in 1957
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at safe
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past two years fluoride was removed from the drinking water and cocoa
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due to unsubstantiated reports of various health concerns, patients including lower IQ and possible neurobehavior problems and children exposed to fluoride that was revealed to be at double the levels for safe use in drinking water. florida has been proven to offer significant dental health benefits, including reducing tooth decay, preventing cavities, particularly among children in underserved
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the American Dental Association, the American Medical Association, the World Health Organization, American Academy of Pediatrics, and many others, including evidence-based research journals and reports in support of fluoridation and community water supplies the u.s center for disease control and prevention has indicated that community water fluoridation is one of the 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century. Fluoride was removed from drinking water
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has been a significant increase in dental related procedures for children and adolescents by as much as
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According to Florida Department of Health, they have noted that emergency room departments in Brevard
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in 2023 for dental related conditions. A benefit, regardless of socioeconomic status, education, or other social variables, is that we can offer as a community to give children and families access to fluoride in their drinking
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here. I was married here. May I finish? Is that okay? Okay. And my husband and I
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We deeply care for our community. I, along with my colleagues, would like to respectfully urge the city council to highly consider the essential benefits of fluoride for
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and make the informed decision to
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into the water system. Thank you.
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‸ Yes, ‸ ma'am. Thank you kindly, ma'am. Please come forward.
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kind of short and simple. um I feel like it's my responsibility as a mother to watch out and protect my children. I believe that fluoride has neurotoxicity that my children are exposed to when I cook, when I clean, when they take a bath. There's a lot of documents that show this. I'm asking that you guys will vote to not put it back in or not have it in our our water system. Also, um our
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surgeon Joseph Lapido said, it is a public health malpractice with information that we have now, and if we continue, to add fluoride in our water system. So, please consider this. And this is just
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mother. These are my four kids, and um I care deeply for them. So, thank you.
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Okay.
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Dr. Gerald Bird, sir. Affectionately known as Dr. Jerry, but I'm reading the
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card Before I start, I wanted to ask you, the mayor, if you know what shirt I got on. Yes, sir.
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The Rotarian, sir. What do you know about that? oh boy. A thing or two. A thing or two, sir. Yes, sir.
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‸ Okay. um As an oral maxillofacial surgeon, I came here. My office is right here across in 1985. And here's where I've been most of my life now. um i'm
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Grand Rapids was the first city to put fluoride in the water in 1945. And they got into a comparison with Muskegon, which is 30 miles west on Lake Michigan.
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After six years, Muskegon
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decreased in cavities in people. So that's what started the whole country to come forward with that. Unfortunately, the studies that have come out, say, in the last five to ten years, the studies have come from other countries, and they're very poorly done.
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They don't have the proper education on them. They don't have the knowledge on them. And
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that you can read that's trusted by the medical profession here in this country.
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is going to hurt our young people. Because if you don't have fluoride in the water that makes the teeth stronger on the
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So you look at the people, it's young people, especially as they're growing up these days. Unfortunately, this gets worse every year. They're all gaining about a much of weight. So they're getting bigger and bigger because they don't eat properly. They don't drink
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to buy water at the store that has fluoride in it.
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that has fluoride in it. They're not going to have a mouth rinse that has fluoride in it. So they're not going to be doing all these things to protect them from getting teeth that are all bombed out from one to the other.
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The mayor knows what happens when you have multiple teeth that are decayed. And this only gets work with time word with time. And, you know, if children and adults, especially in areas that their parents aren't working and there's no money, the kids in those areas are not going to be raised properly of how to brush their teeth every day, what to use, how to rinse their mouth every day. They won't be doing any of this to protect themselves from getting cavities. So we as dentists don't need more patients because the general dentist is fixing teeth right now, putting crowns on, whatever they need to do already. We don't need to get bombed with all these children that need multiple teeth out or we have to admit them to the hospital to get these teeth out or they get a massive infection and we've got to add them to the hospital and take them to the OR to drain these.
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and all the cities that are
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by our water. So you can't count on the studies. If you look back 15 to 20 to 30 years and you read those studies, they were properly done all every time and you can read them. You read something now and they're not done well. They weren't done properly. And, you know, I was born in 54 in the Grand Rapids area. So here I am at 70 and my brain works fine. And I just had my first cavity
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me. My kids have never had a cavity. So why would I want to turn that around and have like any grandkids that live here have cavities? It's just not worth
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multiple teeth. So, you know, I really appreciate it if you keep fluoride in the water because that's what I'm used to, having my first cavity and I don't want to have another one.
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All right. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you,
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practicing here in Brevard County. I live in rock ledge and drink
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as the president of the Brevard County Dental Society, an organization representing 139 dentists. I'm here to express support for community water fluoridation. The preponderance of current evidence shows that water fluoridation is
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Studies that show potential harm use fluoride levels well above the recommended level of water fluoridation ‸ recommended in the u.s even so these studies are not ignored by the medical and dental communities. They're evaluated and often lead to new studies. Numerous recent studies published
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showed no IQ deficits when consuming fluoridated water at levels recommended or at the at the optimal recommended levels. Removal of fluoride from water has been shown to increase cavities in kids. Water fluoridation is a proven method to improve the oral health of communities, not just those that can afford dental treatment. i urge the council to vote in support of community water fluoridation, a measure that's supported by nearly every health organization in the world. Recently, across the state, there have been different municipalities kind of bringing up the same issue. In
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voted to keep fluoride in their city's water system. Speaking on the
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the judge in that case did not conclude that there was definitive evidence of harm from fluoride, and did not order it to be stopped. Fluoridation has never been ordered to be stopped in the United States.
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it's never been um
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ruled that it needed to be stopped. Thank you.
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did you guys have a vote on this particular situation or a huge discussion? And and if you did
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vote, what did that vote look like? yeah Not of the full membership. We had a discussion of the executive board. um So I would say just from informal conversations, it's certainly not everyone, uh not every single member that's in support of
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but the overwhelming majority are. But there was no official vote of all of the membership. Okay. Thank ‸ you.
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Is there a doctor Yoshita Patel asking to as well? now Now is... Well, I'll wait. Be mindful. We were in Tallahassee. Was it last year or the year before last? Was it last year when the council members on on on legislative day, from
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‸ They were with us at the state capitol. Yes. Because we we went to uh ‸ state legislatures uh house representative. We're
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president of the Florida Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, and a member of a community and a mom. I just wanted to address a few points that were made just to clarify. Fluoride is safe and effective at the appropriate dose which is 0.7 parts per million and it's one of the very few public health measures that actually saves more money than it costs. Our kids deserve the freedom from dental pain, dental infection, dental cavities, missed days from school, and parents deserve to not have missed days from work to bring their kids to my office.
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and I serve our community with my heart and my soul. Sorry if I get emotional, but this is an important thing. Every dental school in this country supports community water fluoridation. So when you go against it, you're going against your education and your training, and that's fine. That's your privilege.
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I get a flyer every few months from our school, and they ask for hygiene supplies because many students can't afford basic hygiene supplies. On that list includes things like deodorant, but it also includes toothpaste and toothbrush. So when people say to you tonight that just brush and floss, it's not that simple. It's inexpensive to those who can afford it, but to those who can't afford it, it's expensive in many ways. It affects their livelihood, their safety, their health, and I see it on a daily basis. To the extent that I worked very closely with someone who you may know,
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We partnered as community members to serve our community because there is a deep gaping hole of children who do not get care. It's not because they're not loved or that they they aren't ‸ seen in the community. is that dental decay is often silent until it's not. And when it isn't, it screams, just like those babies all night long.
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ask my kids, of people asking for help. And I can help them to ‸ extent, but you can help them at such a significant extent that it's going to affect so many more children than I will in my lifetime. And I hope that you do that tonight by keeping fluoride in the water.
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um Next on the list,
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Hello. I'm Susan
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I've lived in Brevard County since 1979. I originally came from Jacksonville, where in the groundwater, they have higher levels of fluoride than the optimal level. um
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cavity. um I came from a large family.
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We drank Kool-Aid because it was cheaper. It was made with sugar. It may have given me diabetes, but it did not give me cavities because I had water fluoridation. I am a mother of five, i'm a grandmother of nine, and I'm here to support community water fluoridation. I recognize there are many issues that your council has to address, but I'm a problem solver, and
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have very big problems to solve with a finite amount of funding. Water fluoridation will help you, will allow you to do the most good for the least amount of money. it will reach the most vulnerable people in our community, our children, and it is supported by science, which has a proven
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So let's be practical. Let's help the greater good. Let's do the right thing. Let's continue optimal water fluoridation
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it says uh a name, the power of the name far greater than silver and gold. So that's the ‸ reason why a good name and that you have proverbs 22 1. okay okay since we have you ma'am let's bring on the
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please come forward, sir?
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My name is Jim Antone. I'm a dentist, retired dentist ‸ and periodontist in
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and ‸ a lifelong uh Brevard resident and Cocoa Water user. It takes courage to do the right thing when you're facing a raucous crowd, but voters tend to reward that courage. Based on the preponderance of evidence over the past 80 years, fluoride is both safe and effective in reducing cavities. And that means less pain, less miss school, less missed work, and according to the pediatricians here tonight and elsewhere, fewer hospitalizations and deaths from medical complications,
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The study showing IQ issues run contrary to current science, including those cited by our Surgeon General, and
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The school test scores are the same in fluoridated and unfluoridated areas. A recent review of the article cited by the Surgeon General stated, and I quote, those studies on IQ are flawed and a failed
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unacceptable for policy purposes. Ladies and gentlemen, we should base our policy on facts and not fear. The author of one of the IQ studies went on the record to say that even she supported optimal water fluoridation. And let's consider who else supports it. You've heard others speak to it. But
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The American, Florida, ‸ Brevard County Medical Association supports water fluoridation. And of course, the American Dental Association and the Florida Dental Association, they did vote. Their House of Delegates approves policy every year.
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And you also heard every, essentially every dental school in the world supports it. So who opposes water fluoridation? Well-intentioned, vocal group, and even a very few
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have been decided in favor of fluoridation. And it is not illegal anywhere. And the judge did not order it stopped. So who then should we trust? the few These few or legitimate associations, institutions, and the experts and professors who trained them. Fluoridation costs pennies per day. And you heard that. 30 return on every dollar invested. And that's 10 billion
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in the United States every year that's saved from water fluoridation. Due primarily to fluoridation, the number of adults with dentures decreased from
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in 1964 to less than six percent in 2014.
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dozens of local and statewide missions of mercy. I've seen the devastation, the misery, the medical complications, and the cost
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families and communities. Mr. Mayor and honorable council members, removing optimal fluoridation will disproportionately affect low income families, especially children. I'm not here for myself. I'm retired. My kids are grown. I'm here for children and families who don't get to vote, but will ultimately pay the price if fluoride is
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still have fluoride in their water? I
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can't give you an exact number of cities,
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Yes, sir. We've we've lost a lot. of We've gained six or seven in the past month or two. uh
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‸ Please tell your dad I still can't make a free throw.
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So, yes, sir. Okay. Do we have Mr. Bailey?
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is the type of fluoride that is in this drinking water. um Well, let me start with my background so you guys understand a little bit more here. I'm a globally recognized environmental health advocate who has worked closely with the EPA, the White House Council of Environmental Quality, and I'm known for the first ever
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When they first told us that 70 parts per trillion was safe, and we learned that it wasn't, and it was much lower that um we ended up bringing it down to. But the fluoride in the drinking water is
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acid. You're going to hear tonight about how um it's fluoride, fluoride, but what about the type of fluoride? It is not a pharmaceutical grade fluoride that we're talking about right now. Do you know where hydrofluorosilic acid comes from? It comes from the phosphate mining industry in Central Florida. The reason, likely, that Bartow voted it down is because they are heavily influenced by ‸ the phosphate mining industry like Mosaic. I want to show you a photo of cows from when this type of hydrofluorosilic acid was being
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in the air. This is not the same fluoride that you're thinking is in
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underprivileged communities. ‸ What about the different
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You have doctors in advertisements smoking cigarettes. How many decades did it take for them to realize the dangers of some of these chemicals? All I'm asking you as a city of Cocoa drinking water and a non-profit that actually gives drinking water filters to a lot of your community here is that you consider all of the information beyond. I know it was difficult for me to wrap my head around
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It really was. I was pro fluoride until I learned where the fluoride came from. And I think if you just really, really researched and learned about this fluoride, and yes, it is in toothpaste. I find it very offensive that you're telling people, oh well, poor people are too dumb to understand this. I don't believe that for a second. i don't infants are a different size toxicology is different than topical please
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‸ thank you
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thank you mayor and council uh people
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rockledge florida and i am a practicing dentist of 47 years and i early in my career i was totally pro fluoride
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supported it because that's what i was trained and when i lived in rhode island i was actually the president of the newport county dental society and was able to get the town i lived in
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the chiropractor that was three doors down was against it, and we labeled them a quack. And we were unwilling to really listen to his point of view, and we were very happy that we got it fluoridated. When I moved to Florida, I learned that I was toxic to mercury, which is a substance that ‸ to this day is still approved by all of the same health authorities that want uh fluoride still in the water. And that led me to a journey of learning how to treat myself to get the mercury out of my body, and I became a doctor of naturopathy. And one of the things that we studied is toxicity. I can tell you this, fluoride is a toxin.
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We do not need it at all. And what's interesting is that water fluoridation only affects the first nine years of life when the tooth is being formed in the bone. Once the tooth comes into the mouth, it has nothing, no benefit to anybody, whether it's a child or an adult. Yet, the negative effects of fluoride are body wide All of the bones of the people in this room have fluoride in them. ‸ And those bones might be stronger, but they're brittler. How many people have thyroid problems? How many people have sleeping problems because
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There are many bad negative effects of fluoride on the human body. What I propose is that the money that we save from fluoridation, we use in public health. Because many countries in this world that do not fluoridate fluoridate have less cavities than we do. And we can go ahead and use educate the pregnant mothers and the young mothers as to how to prevent these problems and and and not subject the rest of us humans to a toxin that shouldn't be in our body. So, I request that you do not continue to add fluoride to the water. I i know i think it's a mistake. and And although the dentists say that they have science on their side, there really is no good science in the last 20 or 30 years that really supports their position. The science that they have is all old and can be questioned. Look at the current science and you're going to see that it is a, you know, the the the evidence is there. So, thank you
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Now, technically, I'm not supposed to allow y'all to clap. I'm just trying to be calm about it. so Okay. What a nice guy. Okay, is it Christmas? Okay, may I see. Forgive me if I mispronounce your last name. Is it
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E-C-K, Herbeck.
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are you doing tonight? All as well. Thank you. All right. Well, good evening, everybody. My name is
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my degree to treat patients over the bridge at Merritt Island for the last three years, and
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all of us in the room when I say that
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this fluoride issue we're on, we are here because we care, and I think that's part of what makes our country great. So, no matter what side you're on, thank you for being here. Thank you for participating in our country. This might seem like it's about fluoride, but really, truly,
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we have an unprecedented amount of access to ‸ information, something that nobody, nobody in human history before us has had. And while that is wonderful, it does not protect us from the overwhelming preponderance of information that, like a wolf in sheaves clothing, is designed to take advantage of us. People who use science and mask it in a way to
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take advantage of those of us who are less fortunate, maybe are less educated. I know there are some studies that seem scary about fluoride, and I am not willing to blame anybody for being worried about that. It seems scary. Being able to be literate about the science that's in front of us was not something that
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very exclusive scientific degree. Okay? So, I want to conduct some science here tonight. How many people in this room have been to Australia? Raise your hand. I ‸ see four people of the roughly 55, maybe, of the 50 people we've been in here. So, based on study conducted by a University of Florida scientist, that would be me, five people out of 50 have been to the Australia. Therefore, Australia does not exist. Do you see how you can warp science to say something that maybe isn't quite true? You can come to a conclusion that might seem scientific if you put it a certain way, but truly, it is silly. I'm telling you that
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but I'm here to tell you it's run with the same scientific integrity that I just did just now. Okay? It is based on cherry-picked flawed data that does not account for lead toxicity. It does not account for the dose. It does not account for any of the societal factors that are going on in those communities.
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they are None of them are based here in the United States. If you want to talk about stuff that's based here in the United States, look at the JAMA article from January 6th of this year published by our country in a meta-analysis that shows conclusively, talking about old research, it was from this year that shows that Florida has no negative health on IQ or any of those things. So listen, I i don't blame anybody for being worried about this, but I'm asking you, look at the ulterior motive of the people who are saying to take this out of the water because it is inexpensive to keep it and very financially viable to take it out.
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it Angela McKnight? Am I close?
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Good evening, Mayor and council members My name is Dr. oh sorry.
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My name is Dr. Angela McKnight, and I'm an orthodontist and strong advocate for public health. I was born and raised in Brevard County and now have three offices in Brevard, including Merritt Island, Sun Tree, and
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I urge you to continue adding fluoride to the City of Coco's drinking water since fluoridation is a cost-effective, equitable solution that benefits everyone.
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free dental care clinic. We put on yearly at the EFSC Coco campus. If you want to see the dental care need in Brevard,
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I invite you to see the families that sit for hours and the swollen faces of the children that cannot eat. And I ask you to help them transport their families there because that's the difficult part is getting them to our clinic, whereas at home they have this drinking water that is a solution. I understand concerns about personal choice, but this is a public health measure, just like seat belt laws or clean water regulations. The amount of fluoride in the water is carefully controlled to remain safe.
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community water fluoridation dissolves simply into fluoride and hydrogen ions in sand. There is only one fluoride ion no matter where it comes from and
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old with no change in bone quality. When you choose not to have something, you are taking that choice away from others. In our community, we want to make choices that benefit the benefit excuse me the health, safety, and well-being of all of our citizens, including children, the elderly, and those with physical and mental challenges.
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County Dental Society is an arm of the Florida Dental Association and a strong supporter of fluoride, and we stand with them on this topic.
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Please do not allow our community here to take a step backward at your hands. Let's continue supporting a healthier future for our residents by keeping fluoride in the water.
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Karen. Thank you, ma'am.
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our comments. My name is Karen McCullough, and I'm asking you to remove the fluoride treatment system from our water supply for the following reasons. Mass medicating of the public should not happen, especially without proving the safety of doing so. Second, there is new concerning evidence of health risk from fluoride being added to the water supply. And finally, because the source of the additive seems questionable at best. While I do not prefer to read medical journals in my spare time, I absolutely do so for my children's health, and I expect the same from our elected public leaders who serve our community's children.
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a risk, there must be a choice, which is also known as informed consent. If an individual needs fluoride, it
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and would be appropriately dosed for their age and size. By
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over how much any individual receives. Based on the information of dentists prescribing it as a treatment, it seems in order to distribute it to the population through the water supply,
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should be provided by each municipality for transparency's sake. And if you were to fix the system that's currently broken, there should be a way for the public to ‸ be informed of all of these risks, as well as to be able to opt out of receiving it. Second, last year, a 10-year government study came out that indicates fluoride exposure can have significant neurotoxic effects. I'm quoting from an article I'm going to email all of you.
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high quality studies found that fluoride exposure negatively affected neurodevelopmental or cognitive outcomes in children.
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children's IQs, and of the 19 studies that were deemed to be high quality, 18 of them found higher fluoride exposure led to a decrease in IQ. I imagine none of you want to decrease any of our children's IQ or cause potential neurodevelopmental delays. Therefore, you should remove the water fluoridation system. Lastly, in researching this topic, I found what this lady previously mentioned. Hydrofluorosilic acid is an industrial waste byproduct used in water treatment to artificially fluoride elevate the fluoride content in public water systems. The hydrofluorosilic acid is produced by removing si f4 from the gas stream and hydrolyzing it. So I had to look up what is si f4
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may ‸ severely irritate or even burn skin and eyes and is fatal if inhaled. So by hydrolyzing this, it somehow makes it safe. Perhaps someone ought to be proving to the public why it's a good idea to add this to the water supply. Please vote no to repair the water system fluoridation. Please do not mass medicate the public, especially in light of toxic effects it's shown to have. And know that what's being added is not just a fluoride ion. It's a previously toxic substance that should be proven and documented. If there's any question about the safety of a product, you should absolutely wait until further long-term studies are available and err on the side of caution. Thank you for your time. Thank
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you very much, Mrs. McCullough, ma'am. Okay, next on the list will be Dr. Gary Herbeck, too, as well. Please. ‸ are there any additional cards in the audience? Come one, come all.
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What? You saved the best for last? Amazing. Thank you. I
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have one more card behind you, so ‸ All right. Well,
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how about next to last? That's good. um ‸ I'm Dr. Gary Herbeck. uh Thanks for the opportunity to meet and speak here tonight.
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District Dental Association. I was also with the Board of Trustees of ‸ Florida Dental Association for 10 years, and
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But before that, I was the scientific editor. And in my time, I had to go through many, many, many articles trying to decide which were scientifically valid to be published. And in many of those submissions, one of the things I found was the occasional anti-fluoride positions were severely lacking in what I would call logical scientific truth. So we never ever published those. We did learn over time that, for instance, fluoride originally years ago was 1.5 milligrams ‸ parts per million and now it's 0.7 which is the safe ‸ efficacy. We also know that fluoride is most effective in pregnant women. Why? Because the whole goal is to make sure the structure of the teeth, the outside enamel, is as strong as possible. But since uh about at 18 for almost all people, your adult teeth are already formed. So many of the anti-fluoridationists come out and say, well, you can just brush your teeth with Colgate fluoride toothpaste or you can rinse with Listerine fluoride. It's not as safe. it's I mean, it is as safe, but it's not as
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Think of yourself, think of your teeth as a product that's being formed. And then when they get to the the part where you're supposed to actually use them, you want those teeth to be as strong and cavity resistant as possible. and
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and I start, I've got so much to say. But if you are,
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a person who's against fluoride, it's so easy for you. All you have to do is buy bottled water. You get your own desalination unit if you want to. Anyway, because that would be your personal choice. But the number of people anti-fluoridations are so low compared to the general population,
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And if we are able to provide that for our kids, councilmen and women, I sincerely ask you to please continue fluoridating the water
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Thank you.
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And uh so I don't have the medical aspect of it. But uh mine is more analysis. And I looked at the, I just saw the thing in the paper yesterday, so I didn't have time to prepare anything. But
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correct equipment to ensure the correct level of fluoridation, which i'm totally for, based on all the scientific, again, PhD evidence that's presented. And I looked at that number
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parts per million. And I'm thinking, okay, somebody wants to give me money. They give me a dollar or a thousand. There's a big difference, but ‸ that's only millimeters or mill whatever.
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can do that validly, which I'm thinking would merit that kind of a price tag. And it's been shown, well, shown, I think, that
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water is good. But you want the proper level. So you pay a fair sum to get equipment that can ensure that. So it made sense of, and um the other side of me is Scottish and we're very thrifty. so uh so it seemed it's a good trade. It's a good trade. If somebody's giving me money, I don't want them to make the mistake, you know, if it's like a dollar or a million dollars, you know. So, yeah, it's a good trade. And I understand why we haven't had it the last few years because the equipment wasn't certified, which
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best to ensure that it is safe. And so they pulled it out because the equipment wasn't certified. And so now we need to get the new equipment, even though the price tag looks a little bit high. So, but we're talking parts per million it needs to ensure. So, thank you.
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‸ just for the record, would you please state your name again?
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is here to answer any of the technical questions on the agenda report. I think we laid it out fairly clearly for you. And as a couple of the speakers said tonight, for the last two years, we have not infused the cocoa water system with fluoride because of um because of the end of life of the uh prior equipment. And so, we do have under uh ‸ final design, I believe it is, engineering
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design, the uh the new uh capital system capital improvement system. And so uh
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it was the most appropriate time to bring this issue to the council. um Again, for the last reporting cycle, our levels of fluoride have averaged uh ‸ highest concentration of 0.13 with a range of 0.13 to 0.19 and so what uh what we have in our water system is what naturally occurs in the groundwater. uh And occurs without additional chemicals.
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of, do you want staff to continue to pursue the capital improvement program that would again begin the process of infusing fluoride into the water system? That is estimated at approximately 700 000 with an annual recurring expenditure of approximately 65 000 And
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when we had the equipment operating.
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thinking it was under. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
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fluoride over the past uh two years now. um And what does occur in our water is uh naturally occurring. So, uh there's some fluoride getting in there. um I can say my district, uh
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have a large uh population of those kids that are uh challenged in getting fluoride in their, uh what the levels that they need uh uh through dental hygiene. uh Endeavor is one of the schools in my district. um I go out there all the time. I volunteer. I speak with a lot of the students and ‸ parents. And uh speaking of Dr. Dotes, I've been out on some of her initiatives to get uh dental hygiene for those students.
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So there is evidence there that a lot of those kids won't get that proper fluoride uh without it being in our water. um However, um I would say this on record, i'm I'm in favor of
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um I have to get some clarity, but I believe there may be uh some push from the state in regards to uh forcing municipalities to uh discontinue fluoride. So my concern is I don't want to move forward on this, uh on this initiative here and spend the money and then be turned around by the state uh to discontinue that's money that we wasted basically. And this is a high price tag. So uh I don't
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phone calls and uh emails on this subject. I'm sure the whole council has. um ‸ and uh as a product of, you know,
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except for the last two years
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but hearing the experts talk, uh especially about pregnant women and their teeth, um
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‸ really gave me a different perspective. in the fact that after the age of 18, uh the fluoride that you're drinking really doesn't make a lot of difference. I, I'm convinced that I don't think that it's hurting people, uh at this point. um and
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uh but like
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I'm, you know, if there's going to be something from the state ‸ and I don't want to spend money unnecessarily either. So, I would not be opposed to waiting until after the session to see where we stand. But I am in favor of fluoridating the water.
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something? I've been in contact with um our legislative ‸ group for the Florida League of Cities, and I have not yet read anything about taking
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it hasn't happened, but in our discussion today at the webinar, that did not come up in our conversation, and it did not come up in yesterday's commerce excuse me conversation
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So I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. I just have not yet viewed it because the top things right about now is property taxes, transferring funds from general, uh
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utilities or into our general fund, uh uh ‸ local business um tax, so forth, being uh business receipt, being in effect. But I haven't heard ‸ anything pertaining to fluoride um my thing is this um and then i'll turn the floor over and i'll just go last um at 0.5 at 0.5
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to 0.5 yeah
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if you go back and look at our water quality reports that were required to submit to the state, uh
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years we didn't put in uh somewhere between 0.55 and 0.61 or points What happens is at the plant, most things that we do are a maximum contamination level, so operators are kind of trained to stay at or below. So to average it for the entire year we would mean would imply that we would be dosing higher than 0.7 during the year and
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wanted to go above the recommended level of 0.7 parts per million and therefore that's why we would always fall somewhere below that level as an average for the year.
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tap cocoa water. And my thing is, I'm a product of BPS, school system, and I believe in ‸ I've been drinking this cocoa water all my life. My father's been drinking this cocoa water all his life,
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old, and he consumed coco's water too as well. So just on that simple principle in itself, and everyone that has sent my family, uh I'm gonna ‸ take the stance of, I support having fluoride in our water, and I believe in the fluoride in our water, and I and i do not see it being it
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Florida and surrounding area And if you really want to take a look at
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baby, every day, all day.
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system and the individuals that's responsible for the system. Because we all in this room are living proof. So that's why I stand on those sincere moral character and the fiber of drinking this quality water for us. One more other question. And then I will
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want to drink the uh bottled water, ‸ excuse me, do not want to drink the cocoa water, because in our bottled water, do we have fluoride, sir? In
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bottled water? ‸ It depends on the manufacturer.
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Yes, sir. ‸ It comes from cocoa.
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Not all bottled water, no.
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water, they can either drink bottled water, or is there some type of filterization that they can utilize?
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Yes, ‸ but bottled water would probably be the simplest alternate to use.
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Okay. Okay. um I don't know who would like to go first,
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Well, first of all, I just want to thank everybody that came here tonight. I don't think we've ever had this many doctors in the room.
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a distinguished audience, and, um you know, it's ‸ intimidating, and as someone mentioned, it takes courage to to to um really speak what you think is the right thing to do.
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one of our earlier speakers john nyland uh several years ago he came here i think you mentioned at least a half a dozen times and in kind of small bites gave us an education on some of the issues and on the case on the um the lawsuit the epa lawsuit which having worked in the water sector all my career, I followed. And um
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us to eliminate fluoride in the water. and And my response was that I was really looking for that EPA ruling. Because we're in the position of being elected by Cocoa, but our water serves a much larger body. So now that ruling has come in, and I'm not sure that everyone understands that ruling, but correct me ‸ if I'm wrong, but the ruling is that the government does not have, should, does not have the right to medicate. The population to determine whether or not people take in fluoride.
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The federal government is... I think you have... I'm sorry,
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you have to come to the mic so that everyone at home
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even Dr.
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allowed to put a medication in the public water supply. It can only be done on a town by town or municipality basis. And throughout this country,
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be put in the water system, the town council or the city council or the county commissioners had to vote to put in that drug in in the water supply.
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‸ And by the way...
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Yes. I was going to say that I'm happy to um talk about the EPA ruling if you'd like. um ‸ I could wait until,
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comments, but...
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Yeah. And again, the state of Utah just passed
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bill. Statewide, florida's uh
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So, several of the speakers um have alluded to this case. um
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California issued an order in Food and Water Watch versus EPA. um And this case is also mentioned briefly in the flyer that's attached to the agenda item from the Florida Surgeon General. um Essentially, what the the order found was that fluoride at levels typical in the united states which is 0.7 uh
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per liter um presents an unreasonable risk of injury to health. And um determined um
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essentially, the court ordered that um
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that they will have to engage in rulemaking to determine what level, if any, of fluoride in the drinking water will not present that unreasonable risk. risk
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I can tell you that um in an open letter, the American Dental Association and a number of other uh uh associations uh of dental practitioners urged the EPA to appeal that decision. The EPA has done so and filed a notice of appeal in uh in January. And so, currently, the um you know the state of of what the the level of recommend you know recommendation of fluoride in the water is really in flux. um And we're not entirely sure how this case will be resolved. But I did want to provide that context to you um
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thank you i appreciate that
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um so
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this point uh
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I would be in support of postponing um this decision until we do have some solid recommendations. um
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or the filtration systems to take fluoride out. It's common to purchase toothpaste with fluoride And those topical treatments are so ‸ available to us now as compared with, i'm i no question ‸ my mind, in the 40s and when they first started
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um to some communities. But we now have a lot of topical options which don't force us to ingest us just it and take the risk of accumulating those toxins. um You know, I also speak to this um
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the concern of post-menopausal women who have bone issues, many of my constituents. and um I would hope that we, you know, take into account all of those, the health issues. But I don't feel good about making this decision at a point in time where we really don't even have the optimal dosage. so I'll give the floor up.
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um i will say this i i am very encouraged by the amount of emails uh that i receive which is probably close to probably over 100 um on both sides and i absolutely um really really appreciate the knowledge i feel like i'm a scientist now um a lot of things i didn't pay attention to um I did a lot of research myself and you and you guys forced me to do so. um And so I really appreciate that. So I wanted to say that uh before anything. um
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also um concerned if we do make a decision
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and something happens within the next few months or next year. um You
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really think about that. uh So I appreciate uh Councilman
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for bringing that up. I don't think we're right now. We're not in a time crunch to make this decision um as of today. um
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uh We're kind of holding the bid, the invitation
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for a decision, but obviously we'll follow whatever guidelines come from this this council.
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um that decision
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is not a medication the courts have ruled over
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times that it is not a medication. It's a nutrient. It's like vitamin A. It's added to your milk. It's like phosphorus and calcium added to your bread. It's like iodine that's added to your salt. I could go on with a dozen other uh similar situations. It is not a medication. The courts have never ruled that it is. And no court has ever banned fluoridation.
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I have one more additional question.
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this this is applicable to pediatrics, too, as well. i've been to multiple elementary schools to read to the kids.
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from, yes, Endeavor and throughout
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municipalities and unincorporated elementary schools
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to get dental treatment. Because
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cost or, if not, at a very, very reasonable cost. My concern is this. um Yes, a lot of these kids do not have the necessary coverage and and i'm a firm believer i ‸ can tolerate 0.5 i really can and i think pediatrics can you tolerate 0.5 Fluoride fluoride fluoride
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the water? The range? Hello? Shake your head? No? Maybe? if you Come talk to me, Gator. Doc? Come on up,
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So the research, I mean, originally when we were, this recommendation of ‸ dosage amount was put forward, it was about 1.2 parts per million if my memory serves me correctly 1.5 and as time went on you know we've kept reviewing this information. This is not something that science has always decided
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So over time, over the last 60 years, this research has been re-evaluated time and time again and that dose has lowered 0.7 has been shown to be the minimum effective dose. So it minimizes any potential kind of side effects while maximizing the benefit to any person coming out here. I know someone had did mention about uh osteoporosis. I'd like to ask in that respect, looking at what our water quality report from 2023 shows, we have an arsenic concentration of 1.2
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in our water supply that has been shown to have negative osteoclast uh formation in our bones. My question is um
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out arsenic as a potential cause? What was the p-value of it? What what statistical regression was used to analyze this to make sure that it is a sound scientific study? Okay, there's that. But then I also know about the three million children every single year that miss days and days of school because they are in the er with dental infections. That's something that we do know that is something that is concrete okay so my point is yes
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And it has been shown for decades that this is something that is beneficial to our children, to people who cannot be here. A seven-year-old cannot come here on a Tuesday night, but I can. So, ‸ did she drive here i hope
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i just looked this up the cdc says
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to try and achieve that 0.7 parts per million um there's probably benefit at 0.6 to 0.7 as a
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might be splitting hairs here 0.6 um versus 0.7 or even 0.5 and um whatever the case may be i'm in favor of addressing this issue right now because the citizens believe in us. That's what representative democracy is. Sometimes you have to stand on your own conviction. And I'm living proof. And a lot of our family members here consume the water. Our kids and our grandkids drink this water. I have 15 grandkids and they drink this water.
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You'll catch that. But the point that I'm saying, ‸ I love my 15 grandkids, um the point that I'm saying to you, take a
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take a stand, vote your conviction. And
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Parts per million?
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Parts per million. And I'm looking for a second.
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Second.
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Of course. Councilman
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your light is on. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. weeks You're
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welcome. I
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wanted to come back to that uh possible bill that that's up in the state right now. Senate Bill 700. It just made it out uh through ‸ unanimous vote from the Senate Agriculture Committee.
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Senate Bill 700. uh That bill, I believe, is a part of a a larger uh initiative as well in regards to the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. But if enacted, it would prohibit it would prohibit the use of any additive in public water systems that include primary primarily for health related purposes, such as fluoride. So, again, I want to be smart with ‸ the uh taxpayers money, and
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uh
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money, towards something that we may be prohibited from utilizing. um So, that was just about seven days ago, if i believe if I'm correct, that that came out. um We're going into the legislative session. I would feel more comfortable making a decision on this after that. um
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and it was voted down. So, uh I would just like to see how it goes. Is
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it out of committee,
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man
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it at the subcommittee? That's what I'm trying to ask you. I'm
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not sure on that. um
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So if anybody has any knowledge... Is there a house bill? Because normally you can't do a bill without having the support of both sides traditionally.
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there. It may not gather any legs and
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read for the first time uh to the Agriculture Department. So that was March 18th, which is today.
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‸ So it's not out of subcommittee. It's just read.
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Yeah.
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So it has no legs. So that's the reason why I'm saying to you. And and and my thing is, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm coming to you, uh Deputy Mayor Weeks.
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‸ And if it... Until if the governor... We're not going to with the Whatever it takes to repair the equipment or get the proper equipment. It's not going to happen overnight. It's not going to happen overnight. So
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the decision right now.
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If it gathers legs, but... And it's not ‸ even out. Just because I read it to you doesn't mean
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left the subcommittee. That's what the point that I'm saying to you. So, you know, do not put the cart in front of the horse. um And that is the reason why I'm saying to you, let's make a decision. um And whatever that decision may be, I will stand behind it. Because I am... We all in this room,
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we're living proof. Okay. uh Councilman Goins, you have your... life oh I'm sorry.
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And we do have a motion on the floor. Deputy Mayor
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Yes, I just wanted to say that um I agree with, uh again, with the fluoridation But uh I do know that it ‸ will take time. It's not like we're going to have the equipment up and running that has to go out for bid and all of that, correct?
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That's true. Right.
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Yep. So so we can get this process uh started. And if things change statewide, we can always, you
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who are pregnant, whose babies won't have the uh ‸ the internal fluoridation for their teeth, which down the road is, you know, who knows how many
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And uh especially hearing that the topical fluoride doesn't do what the internal fluoride does. That really stuck with me. So I would like to see us move forward. Thank
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you very
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So you you are putting, I know you're pretty much ready to go with the bid. So when will the, when will you read the bid for the deadline for that? I
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think we were waiting for action by this council. uh Once action is taken by this council or not, I mean, we were wanting to hear, we
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That equipment, you know, is beyond its useful life. So it needs to be replaced. So if council's action was to remove it, then obviously we wouldn't include it in the bid. If that,
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in the bid uh i could also uh because we've already talked about ‸ a little bit, if we need more time. But I mean, the contract has to come back to council anyway. So even if we put out the bid tomorrow, which we probably wouldn't go tomorrow, but if
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came out over the next few weeks, whatever it might be, the contract has to be evaluated and then reviewed and approved by purchasing, comes back as a contract. And so if at that time something else changed, you would still have another second look at that before we would award that, that, that, that portion of the contract. And this is not just for this.
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that we were working on. This was
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30 days. Yeah.
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Yeah. I just, I wanted that point of clarification, not only for me, but for the audience as well. um And also I wanted to get a gauge on how
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looks like it's going to fly anyway. um But I really, I really want to try to match up those,
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And let me say one more thing additionally. Session started early. Why? Because
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special ‸ excuse me, session. The governor calls him before the designated
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And he can do a special session
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as well. He can call it anytime he wants to governor Ron de santis And that's the beautiful thing about understanding. ‸ And that's why we're going up there on Capitol Hill to fight for citizens
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the floor by the chair in a second, by Deputy Mayor Weeks. You have the motion, right, council, uh city clerk, ma'am? Yes,
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All right,
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favor by saying aye. Aye.
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aye Any
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nays? Nay. That the record reflect
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move forward. Thank you both parties. I thank you for exercising your rights. The story has not yet been concluded, but we're moving forward. Sirs and ma'am. And I look forward into having this continued conversation. But I'd rather err on the side of helping someone than not helping them when I know they need it. And I will believe in that. Because I ‸ believe, like everyone else, in helping people. Because it comes back to you 12 times the fold. So that's why we're all the good red blooded Americans. All right, this concludes this portion of it, sirs and ma'ams. Mr. City Manager,
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Mr. City Manager, reports, sir. Do we do we
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do we have any reports? Mrs. Singer has a report.
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thank
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you council oh my bad.
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yes ma'am Yes, sir, man We got more to come. Okay. Hey, hey. I love you all. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir.
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Okay, I'll go ahead and get started.
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we have our arbor day event and plant sale
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so um docs dr burr her back could y'all close the door? Thank you, sir. I'm sorry. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am.
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um We have our uh Trash Bash, which starts at
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o'clock. um Again, that's with KBB. We pick up trash throughout the city.
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which starts at 10 o'clock. And then
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Book fest going on in the village
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um all the streets in the village. We'll have authors. um They have fun stuff throughout the village. And they are actually coming into Riverfront Park as well with some of their authors to incorporate into our Arbor Day event as well. So, that should be a fun day. So, make sure everybody comes out on April 5th,
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Thank you very much.
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Did I miss something?
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yeah Can I ask a question? Are we gonna ‸ hear from the chief? Isn't the chief having a breakfast here pretty soon?
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um today um yeah
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We're gonna ‸ make the announcement next,
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We have a uh chief breakfast on april the 29th
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here at the civic center going to go from 7 a.m to 9 a.m
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thank you very much sir
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you're welcome
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okay Yes, sir uh Esquire Ike, ma'am.
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No report, sir.
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let let um Deputy Mayor, may we let her go first with everyone's blessings. Deputy Mayor, well, first of all,
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safely to your destination. Our prayers are with you. um If there's anything that we can do, please reach out and touch us, please, ma'am.
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Thank you. uh That is very kind of you. I appreciate that very much. It is a it is a tough time. um
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‸ anyway
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we um uh I did not get a chance to submit a report since we had to leave town so quickly, and uh we've been sitting with my father-in-law all day. So um
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keep you apprised of what's going on. So thank you.
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‸ yeah. uh Deputy Mayor Weeks,
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know you wanted to
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be here tonight. um I just have a couple of things. One, I wanted to, we got a, we got an email.
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in regard to the trash under the bridge. And
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Okay, great. um ‸ and just, I'm looking forward to ‸ Next Tuesday at Orchid Lakes, we're going to have the Clear Lake Community Meeting. we will
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uh venturing into an initiative to get public input for enhancements to the corridor. And we're going to share with people. We have a little better, set up there a little better, acoustics so people can hear and see. And we're going to share some of the developments going on, particularly around the corridor
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So,
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this could potentially be our uptown. So, we're eager to get the word out and hear from people in the community. So, that'll be next Tuesday. And that's
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my report.
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Busy, busy month and I guess the last three or four weeks.
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I'll be the mayor win as well. It's a health and wellness event, a great event. Not so great of an event for the turnout for the community. ‸ But I did talk with them multiple times about in the future maybe getting with me and or us and maybe get some volunteers that I could find and go out and do some door knocking because it ‸ was some great resources that was there. Especially on the pediatric side of it. A lot of free care, potential free care. ‸ Free dental care was there as well that they could have took advantage of. So we just
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do a better job of communicating and I think we'll do that moving forward. Top picture is my son. We got kicked out of Amazon.
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he still wanted to take a picture in front of it. ‸ Thank you for the city for allowing the council to go a part in this tour.
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I'm assuming that I'm going to give you the credit anyway.
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the community as well. And for us to see some of the businesses that we may not even know that they exist or what they do. So appreciate staff for ‸ getting this done. March 7th,
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went to the Florida League of Cities leadership class. It was one of the best ones I know I've been a part of.
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and allowing me to go on this one. I really enjoyed it and I really needed this as well.
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people conversation. ‸ That happens a lot in politics where you get two people out of 25,000 say they want something and when you don't do what they want you to do, then you become the idiot of the crew. And so everybody had the same issue with that and so I felt a lot better that we're not the only ones that get attacked for the we the people ‸ speech. But it was a great, great Florida League of Cities leadership and I appreciate Florida League of
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for all they do. Next one I went to was the FBC Leo annual conference of the 40th year anniversary as well. It
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event, another opportunity to learn and learn about other cities and also learn about myself as well because we all we all in a I try to keep myself in an education mode all the time because we all never know enough. This is at the Cocoa High
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what was great about this event they actually had the head coach of Kaiser which I didn't even know Kaiser had a college or a football team with their college.
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actually the guy on the far end he's the head coach.
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down the road and I believe
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And so it was a good event and you know Matt
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So great event to support Cocoa High School.
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I think my area this year and my crew would be over by probably Provost Park down Jackson Street. So if any council members ‸ anyone in the community that want to come. We have enough trash to pick up so please show up. Again, I'm gonna try to my best to provide
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and coffee or whatever else you like. Maybe some Kool-Aid.
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it is a great two or three hours to get get your steps in but also clean up the community. So that's April 5th. Correct? Yes. All right. That's all I have.
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ahead of time that I will not be able to participate in April 5th. I'm and the next council meeting I will be by phone. So I'm sorry that's unavoidable. I was looking forward to Arbor Day.
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All right. District 2. So I had the
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I love to see so many families and kids out there, so many community partners.
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There was other organizations that gave out food and resources.
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speaking about, toothbrushes and toothpaste. Just so many community partners.
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resources. At the same time, the kids were able to have fun. My kids went out there and enjoyed it as well. And I'm so thankful that we have that as a community here and all the work that Endeavor's doing to make the lives of those families better. So that was a great event.
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mayor also attended the FBC Leo event. Got a lot of great information. It's always great when you can get with other city leaders and see the issues that they are struggling with are very similar to the things that we're struggling with and bringing those great minds together and coming up with solutions. So I'm very thankful to be able to attend that as well.
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It really touched me to see, you know, when we think football, we just think of it as a sport. But that sports specifically, Cocoa High is providing so many kids in our community the opportunity to go to college, something that they probably wouldn't be able to do without ‸ that avenue, especially at a time when we're seeing scholarships very, very hard to attain. So I'm thankful. They are thankful that the parents, the kids are thankful for the support that the city has given to that school. So our good deeds are not going unnoticed as a council. And also, I'd like to end by saying I know the last meeting we approved a couple of weeks
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I would like to say for anyone that's listening up, please be patient. Give staff the opportunity to gather the information and ‸ get the ball rolling. We knew that it would be a big process, a large overhaul. So I would ask, please be patient, allow staff to get things going. Um,
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The information will be put out. Um, and we want, we don't want to rush them and getting information out because we want the whole picture. We want, uh, uh, efficient information. So, um, thank you to all the staff. Thank you to those who showed up tonight. I didn't know we had that
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So that's a great thing. We see what our city is made of. So, and that's democracy here from both sides and making the decision on behalf of the people. So that's all I have from district two.
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I want to say thank you to each and every council member. You make it always happen.
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diligently involved in your communities. And your districts. And I just want to say this one thing. The difference between stumbling blocks and stepping stones is the way you use them. That's important there. That's the difference. The difference between a stumbling blocks and stepping stones is the way you use them. And we have been using them in a positive way so that we can catapult our city into a new horizon and moving forward. This is one of the events on our business day. That's
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the links. One of our former, uh, one of my former teachers that we worked together. She did a performance with the yoga. Also, this is, uh,
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under the president, uh, Trump's, uh,
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and GOP administration at Washington, D.C. Seven days there at Washington, D.C. Uh, Mr. City Manager. Could you expound on it?
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you know, I'm coming to you, sir. Go ahead, brother.
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About how busy we were. I only spent two days there. And so, so we, we had an opportunity to go up and, um, and, um, speak with, uh, Senator Scott's
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then the, uh, the, uh, chief legal counsel for the
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Um, and so we spent two days, um, there in D.C. Uh,
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grant. So it was, uh, it was, uh, always a fun-filled two days with a lot of walking and a, and a lot of, uh, uh, meetings there. But, but again, we're, we're just as encouraged by this visit, uh, as we were the last time and even more so. So, so it was a good two days for us. And that was, um, the mayor and myself, Georgiana Gillette, um,
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Steele, and, uh, joined by, uh, Hussein Cumber. Um, I think that was the
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So, yes sir, you're correct. Here, we're at the National League of Cities. Um, the other additional five days, by me being on the executive board, they covered the cost.
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National League of Cities.
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And it was quite educational. He informed us about certain grants that will be ‸ available.
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We have to reach across the aisle, ladies and gentlemen, so that we can ascertain funds for our Brightline. We have to work with the people. We must have an olive branch there so that we can accommodate this multimodal transportation system that benefits not only the citizens
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whose birthday was on the 15th and also Senator Rick Scott and staff. This is one of our very own Sharon Moss Taylor.
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She's an elected official from Atlanta, GA. This is the city manager right here. The delegation here that we spoke about, the city manager elaborated on right there at Washington, D.C. You can see the climate everyone has on a jacket or myself. Quite naturally, you see me with the chrome dome because I have a scully cap on. You can go to Smirk, so am I, but ‸ it was cold. There is no place like home, the Sunshine State. Trust me, man. We were at the
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that. And let me make it clear.
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We do not discriminate. It's a great organization, very informative, and it talks about issues across the board. I had the opportunity to celebrate and read a proclamation to Mrs. Pearl Thomas, celebrating her 85th birthday, a young whippersnapper. I would like
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assisted me in gathering the information from Mrs. Pearl Thomas here in Cocoa, Florida. We were at West Cocoa Complex.
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and we're very proud of her. A member of Zion Orthodox Primitive Baptist Church. And this is the mayor from Kissimmee and the vice mayor as well at the FBC Leo. As you can see, our keynote speaker was ‸ the judge, our fierce leader, Mrs. Jeannie Gardner, Wes, the outgoing president. And this is, in conjunction, one of our original members of FBLC. FBC Leo, Miss Mary Brown. She's one of their original members.
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Also, Mr. Curtis Johnson and the new incoming
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Happy days. Great job, baby. This is a group notice, man. It's Women's Month. There are, what, six, seven ladies there that were in charge running the show, man. And we had a great time. I saw some ‸ of my former students. You can see council there. And we had a great time. Roll Tide. As you can see,
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the National Florida League of Cities. Myself and also Joshua Simmons. This is our CEO, Jeannie Gardner. And also our first vice
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Once I
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the baton over, she will do a remarkable, phenomenal job and have the utmost respect for her. This is the mayor from Jackson, Mississippi at the National League of Cities.
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Let me tell you something. The Florida City job is doing a phenomenal job.
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had standing room only. And we did a job survey and they're going to sponsor a scholarship just like we do with the Space
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which will be under us. That's right, a $5,000 scholarship per person. This is Vice President J.D. Vance. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. I stew for this man. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. I need his help. We need his help. It doesn't matter for whom ‸ our help comes from as long as it's blessed from the man upstairs. Today, we were at the M2X. It's located in South ‸ Cocoa on ‸ Barnes Boulevard, but they have a facility at Eastern Florida State College. As you can see, Edgar from EDC, Commissioner
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Councilwoman Connor from the City of Rockledge. This is one of their friendly equipment where they convert methane gas into methanol, protecting our environment. If you've ever been
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utilize that energy.
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You can see we had a great time, highly attended. This is the ribbon-cutting ceremony. And as you can see, you can see the co-founders there. Again, I want to say thank you to M2X. Welcome to the City of Cocoa. And what a great job. They have over 50-plus employees and growing. So I want to say thank you to everyone that participated.
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And the answer was zero. Because we're trying to slow everything down on Clear Lake. Yes, people were upset. Yes, they did not like the modification. But we're here to save lives. And that's what it's all about. So Mrs. Singer,
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And I would like to get with you so we can put it a part of ours. They also will have a mobility on demand at a FRA at Tampa where we all attend.
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of Cocoa to assist and aid individuals that need transportation outside of the SCATS bus. You can still get transportation. And they will come when called. And last but not least, Space Coast TPO. Again, kudos to Mrs. Gillette.
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grant that will enhance the safety of seven rail crossings. And one of them is right here in beautiful
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downtown Cocoa, Florida.
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in tonight's event, to council, to staff, to city manager, our city attorney, for more so than everything else. I want to ‸ thank everyone for making our job easy but challenging but more so than anything else rewarding. Buy local. Spend local. Keep it local. Thank you, staff. Thank you, city manager. Thank you, all 400-plus employees of the great city of Cocoa. Chair entertains a motion to adjourn.
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Second.
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All right. Before we depart, yes, I'll go with it. I'll take that. Deputy Mayor Weeks, we love you, ma'am.
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Go in peace. Great job, everyone.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.

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