I'm going to make the best of citizens on behalf of the city of Cocoa.
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to watch over us as
we walk.
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Ready, man.
Yes, sir. I pledge allegiance to
the flag of the United States of America and
to the
republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
You are. Madam Clerk, may we do roll call, please?
Mayor Blake.
President, ma'am.
Deputy Mayor Weeks. Here. Council Member Goins.
Here.
Council Member Hearn.
Here.
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City Attorney Ike.
Here.
City Manager Witten.
Here.
Thank you very much. Mrs. Aubrey Urich, the Assistant City Clerk, working hand-in-hand with our City Clerk, Ms. Monica Arsenault. Okay. The purpose of this meeting is to define our priorities and make proper planning. What I would like for everyone to do is go to page two, depending
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the agenda. As you know, each department has a performance based on what's in the budgeting system.
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Fund balance updates, parks, updating discussion, public safety priorities, waste management. And number six will be public comment. Okay. Do we have any questions before I turn the floor over to our City Manager? On Council. Seeing none. Mr. City Manager, sir, the floor is yours.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor and ‸ members of the Council. As you know, the City Charter requires that each year, one of the core duties of the City Manager is to present the Council with a balanced budget proposal. We usually ‸ kick off that process in February, starting with these priority setting meetings there. And this is the first of two or three scheduled meetings there. And so it's that first meeting. You've gone over the agenda. Probably we will need some direction with regards to fund balances, the parks update. We have a discussion in there for you. And then, you know, wanted to talk about just very briefly the public safety priorities because we're a growing city. And then give you an update on the waste management issues there.
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over time there. So, I wanted to start out by saying it's always early in the process. And this is a little different because it's not only early, but we have a state of flux on a number of different levels out there. We're in a state of flux.
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isn't slowing down. ‸ The jobs ‸ appear to be slowing down.
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one administration to the next administration. Some of this actually hits home more so in Brevard County than other areas there. But you'll see in the headlines there that the NASA meetings are on hold and their missions are up in the air according to that one headline. ‸ You can see that Blue Origin is laying off people. And I think there was another major company out at ‸ the Space Center that's also laying off people. You can see at the state level, and this issue comes around. I've been in it for 35 years. And this issue comes around every so often. We're at the state level up in Tallahassee. We want to talk about ‸ getting rid of property taxes.
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I don't know how real that is. Not sure that I've seen any bills on that just yet. But again, that's been in the headlines.
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of what's going on in terms of legislation that is being proposed up in Tallahassee. And so ‸ those couple grabbed my attention as we were preparing for this workshop. ‸ We've talked about this repeatedly at numerous meetings, and you can see that none of the other cities are immune to the issue. And this was, there were two news articles. ‸ There was one newscast today with regards to the issue in Palm Bay. And so just wanted to remind you of that. But also ‸ to, again, I sent this out to you to remind you of House Bill 1365. You can remember back a couple of weeks ago when we had the item come up under delegations. And House Bill 1365 is the bill that was enacted into law that prohibits the unauthorized public camping and sleeping on public properties. And that became effective October 1 of last year. And
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without certification ‸ from DCF. And the county must designate public property that gets certified through DCF and meets specific criteria.
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there. And again, just wanted to emphasize,
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office, that only the county is authorized to designate the public property and to submit to DCF for the certification.
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as I talked the other week about it's a countywide issue, it really is a countywide issue because none of the cities can play in that particular sandbox unless authorized through the county.
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we want to do something, we want to do an encampment within a municipality, that obviously requires
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concurrence of the municipality through a majority vote. But again, it is the responsibility and the authority is given to the county to set up these encampments. Again, counties, and you'll see counties sort of written all over the legislation, counties must maintain the standards
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health services. And so ultimately, at the end of the day, if there's going to be this encampment, you have to have services that are provided in those encampments. DCF's role and then fiscally constrained counties can actually petition to ‸ exempt themselves out. And again, cities don't have the authority to independently establish shelters or to designate public camping, sleeping areas, again, without county and DCF, county approval and DCF certification.
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about overnight camping and
sleep. And
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we had that discussion. And they actually reminded me that it talks about overnight. I mean, it says overnight camping and sleeping.
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the loitering and ‸ the appearance of camping during the daytime. But again, the bill specifically talks about overnight. ‸ So I wanted to drill down on that a little bit. You know, the goal of all of this last five, ten minutes ‸ has been to say that, to at least put you on alert, alert that, you know, different than most budget years where we go in and it's the same administration ‸ and things are pretty stable. I think our environment is a little bit more unpredictable. And so, again, as I've said earlier, we're here early, but we're also in this unpredictable environment. We have a number of a number of issues that are that are being, I'll say, forced upon us. And we'll talk a little bit more about those later on.
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of police and fire pay and retention. And we've done a great job. I think you all have done a great job in approving those raises.
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We're a lot better off than a whole lot of cities and counties. And you can
you
can you
can gauge that by, you know, the news articles and the news reports that that we've seen recently. And so but ‸ that continues, you know, we're always chasing the next department that gives a pay raise that gives that provides incentives that are that are better than ours. Because, again, the schedule allows some portability in terms of the profession. You know,
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now there's
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Yeah.
And
so so 48 either way, that gives you some some ability to work up and down the state because, you know, you're you're only there tops two days. I guess what was the other? Eight
days
out of the month.
Yeah. Eight days out of the month.
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it's it's eight days out of the month. And so you can you can live in in ‸ in ‸ South County and South County, South South Florida and work here or vice versa. So so that's that's always a challenge. It's always been a challenge there. So, again, just wanted to highlight those couple of issues that are that are barreling down on us. I'll I'll pause here for any questions that anyone may have. Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir.
Thank you. Councilman.
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Sir. On your last point in regards to the homeless and camping bill, I just wanted to put something out there for you to research for future conversations, if that ever came
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Um, I know you talk about the county, uh, they're in charge of certification and standards. Uh, also could we do research in regards to liability as well, which government agency would take on that liability or something was to happen?
Well, it's it's ‸ it's all governments going to take on that liability.
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viable for allowing public camping and sleeping to occur,
regardless
of whether the county has created a place for public camping and sleeping. So it unfortunately puts us in a difficult position because if you do nothing, the bill does have provisions in it that provide for any person who lives in the county, um, as well as any business owners in the county and the attorney general could sue the city. Um, and they could, uh, obtain attorney's fees and costs, all of their costs, if they were to prevail. Um, if they, you know, find that the city is allowing, um, public camping and sleeping to occur.
Okay. Thank you.
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Could you elaborate on one of the issues of saying an area has been designated? Um, how other municipalities just what happened with Melbourne and Palm Bay, uh, one municipality said, Hey, I don't want your people coming to my area. I would address my people only. So how do we, you know what I'm saying? What rules or regulations, even though it hasn't been established ‸ yet, but we know what 1365, House bill 1365 dictates, could you expound on that a little bit please?
So,
um, again, only the county is able to designate an area for created for public camping and sleeping. If they,
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that would apply if they did designate. Um, but in
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cities to ensure that people are not camping and sleeping on in public places that includes
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our parks, any, you know, any public spaces.
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be trying to give,
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tools that they need to ensure that they are able to, you know, hopefully provide warnings to people to not camp, um, in the evening.
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people.
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in.
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from walking, prohibiting them from walking.
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And
this. Yeah.
There could be other issues with regard to that, especially during the day. I mean, as was brought up this, this bill prohibits the overnight camping. So we need to make sure that we have the tools in place to, to, uh, allow the police to enforce that. Currently the, the city ordinance does prohibit sleeping or actually it doesn't say sleeping, but it says loitering, walking, standing, sitting, or lying in a park in specific parks, actually. Um, during, uh, closing, you know, when it's the hours when it's closed, but that doesn't, wouldn't of course cover other public spaces.
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So that's why I'm saying there may be, that that's the recommendation is that we may want to move forward with,
uh,
updating the ordinances.
And Mr. Mayor,
we,
we, we sent that, that I'm glad, uh, city attorney, I mentioned that because we did send that out when the, when we sent out the, uh, the, uh, information, the summary of
house bill
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13 was that the direction that we should take is to, to do some revisions to our ordinance or drafting of a new ordinance. And so we'll, we'll work on that. Um, you know, again,
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Um, yeah, you know, and I'll let commander Marquis could tell you without getting into specifics of what they're doing with regards to, uh, the police department and, and specifically, uh, ‸ sleeping or camping in public places.
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We have post patrols on the parks twice a night, including
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park as well. If
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warnings to them. And if they fail to leave, then they will arrest them after that.
Uh,
yeah.
And,
and so, and so just like, you know, and so when you see, uh, our regulars, I'll say in the parks, um, you know, rest assured that, that the police department is again, as he said, is doing twice nightly checks, you know, but again, like anything people get used to. And they start knowing the patterns and, and again, they come back, you know,
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you know, obviously we don't want
to
tell what we're, you know, our sort of methods.
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being ignored and that's a commander. That's a check of all the parks that we have. Yeah. So, so all of the parks, you know, ultimately that's going to be
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and, and just normal growth. You know,
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state.
Right.
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months or so since provost park has been open, I think, um,
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us this week. And I think what it, what happens is, is,
is
more of a frustration and it is not necessarily saying that, um, PD is not doing anything. I think what,
happens,
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you start seeing the same as what you said, the same group of people consistently for weeks, um, at a time. Um, we may not see that interaction of warning, but we do see the consistent person being there. And so what we know
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uh, uh,
commander Martica
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as well. Once you start getting, um, overnighters, that's when the drug element comes in because those drug dealers, they know that crew is sitting there. And now that same
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social security check.
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and a half million dollars at provost. We cannot afford, and it looks silly for us.
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but we cannot afford, uh, for the optics of that to happen again, as it was in the past. I think we've came a long way from what it was and we just don't want to allow them to get ‸ comfortable enough to think it's okay to, uh, to come back in. And that's, I think that that's kind of, and I'm, and I'm getting to that too, of just being frustrated when I ride through and I see certain things as, as, as I said before, uh, with hanging up clothes on, on a fence line.
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It was not to become what it has been. You know what I mean? And that's what the lighting I see today, the lighting company was, I know we got a park conversation too, but lighting company is out there today.
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You
know what I mean? But I'm just, I think that's really what came out was more of just frustration.
because
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we see it
because
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I ride that street every day and it's sometimes you do get frustrated. Yeah.
And I would ask that, that, you know, what we do is all a part of the public record. And so again, I can tell you that, that, that we're not ignoring it again, as the commander said, we make twice nightly checks and that includes Lee winter park. That includes riverfront park. And so we make twice nightly checks, you know, and I do believe that you drive the, the good activity in and it'll drive the bad activity out. And we'll talk about a little bit more about that later. And we've done a good job of doing that, you know?
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so,
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know exactly what we're doing. If you ever want to know what we're doing, just, just call the chief, one of the commanders.
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or maybe even a phone call, maybe twice a day, because one is on the way into work and I'll say, Hey, you
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listen to the text messages. We're
doing what
we can do. Yeah,
so again, that's just going to be ultimately a matter of resources there. And I think that once people know that, because again, you have in your code right now where you can impede the flow of traffic by giving and receiving. And so I don't know how firm we are on that legal ground, but that's what you have in place right now. And so we're very aggressive on that because I know that the chief
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and probably from the mayor and
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So I think we have.
Yeah, I certainly don't want to discount the work that our women and men are doing in the police department. But as councilman
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stated, the frustration part of it, my phone blows up about a number of things, mainly trash, the waste management issue. But lately, it's
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claims. I've been dropping by there almost three times a day. These parks and I see the same crew. Well, the crew is actually starting to grow and
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This taking place or trying to take place again, photos to verify that. And then also the frustration part of the parks and parks and recs. They're holding us to a higher standard or whatever our part of the agreement with the parks.
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stacked up in front of our concession stand has been there for three months. I would think that's their ‸ responsibility to remove that. So as long as I got to keep dealing with the phone calls, I'm gonna keep bringing it to the council's attention until it's done.
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about it. Yeah.
And you're never you're never
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and you're never gonna you're not gonna be 100% on anything.
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The county does have performance standards with regards to to the parks there. And so, you know, if it's if it's three months, the trash has been there, then, you know, first week we should know about that. But but but but again, it is most of these problems can be taken care of with a phone call. ‸ And I get that, you know, I've been here 31 years and I can tell you, I've seen the same people over generations on the streets and at Provost Park, you know. But I know that as a staff, we're working on it. I know that as a staff, we're committed to the betterment of the entire city again. And we'll talk about some some one idea that that is a
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call it a Stockton idea to drive more activity into the parks there.
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expectation that overnight we can solve the homeless issue. We can solve the camping in public spaces.
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the fourth year in a row, our crime rate is down. And so and so we're we're making progress and we're we're we're actively working. And again, but don't discount the public being frustrated because, again, it is ‸ it just takes time.
I and I know we're going to talk about parks later, so this may be the wrong time. But what about the motion detector cameras and stuff to go off to alert that, especially when it's not in use, something along that line? And I was curious, how long when they're arrested are they in jail for?
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same one. So I was just. Yes.
I know most of the time, the state attorney date with the motoring and things of that nature.
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And then you would ‸ back out ‸ the streets.
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frequent fly. Yeah. Oh, that's why I was curious.
‸ I was
frustrated on the officer where they go out, get these guys off, they may have a little weed in their pocket and get them on the exemption chart and then they back out in 24 hours. ‸ I'm pretty sure that's frustrating.
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Yeah.
And
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Yeah.
OK.
So. And again, want to want to continue to do more of that.
Yeah. ‸ Thank you.
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thing that's frustrating
it's
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easy to make a mandate and not fund. ‸ Yeah. That's the frustrating part of it all. You tie my hands where I cannot generate revenue to ‸ offset dealing with the homeless. But then again, you want to take the ability to have property taxes or a military and you want to take that away. So how do we generate revenue to provide adequate and fair and equitable services for the citizens? And it's statewide.
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Yes, ma'am. My apologies.
I just wanted to ask. You mentioned the growing population. What is the population? What is the growth?
Yeah. I don't know that I have the latest statistic.
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We are three or four years removed from that.
I
would.
‸ Yeah. ‸ Don't we ‸ have a report? Well, we can get you that. I just don't have
it off the top of my head. I mean, University of Florida does ‸ the population statistics and that's updated on a regular basis. But we can get you that. Somebody can probably just Google that.
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Yeah, I think we're over 21. And again, and we'll leave this subject and move on to the next topic. You know, I don't want to, you know, obviously
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And I'm not saying don't be frustrated, but at the same time, I just want citizens to know that we're working on the issue. And so, yeah, I share their concerns and we're just as frustrated and we're working on it. I think probably harder than than than we've worked before, you know. So that's that's just the point of my ‸ comments there. And so we'll move on. Mr. Mayor, if you're OK, we'll move on to the to the to the performance priority areas there.
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and but but also talk, as you alluded to, of how we tied this into two departments within the budget document.
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just as a reminder, our priority areas are public safety and community standards, investment in public infrastructure, economic and community development, community outreach and engagement and organizational effectiveness.
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puts together performance measurements that get associated with each of these priority areas. They are listed in our budget document. So what I did was took the priority areas listed
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and then took them and put them with a priority area. I'm not going to go through each one. These were just a few that I pulled out. You are welcome to go through and look at each department in the budget document. And I did on the next slide include a link to our budget document. But just to name a few in under public safety and community standards, we are developing a network within our neighborhoods to enhance communication between the members of the police department and the community in public infrastructure.
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and under economic and community development. One of our measurements is to implement at least two business development conferences or programs this fiscal year, attracting business owners to learn more about small businesses and incentives
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You have community outreach and engagement. We have implemented starting a monthly letter and flyer
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some of the big events that are happening in the area. And then under organizational effectiveness, we have implemented a new public records management system that ensures compliance with Florida statutes. So those are just a few again that I've listed here, but all of them are listed in our budget document. You can go to our budget document on cocoa.
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‸ It is all listed there. You can go to each department and you will see every department performance measures that all fall into various priority areas.
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the last bullet point on the on the left. Left left hand side, ‸ left hand column there. And so, you know, I didn't realize that we had already started, but we do, you know,
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the sun. And so it's good to see that we're actually we are doing the monthly letters and flyers to the churches there because that's where a lot of information is disseminated.
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a good listing of churches and everybody's getting that information so that they can put it in the in the in the announcements.
Yeah, I think we have over 50 churches and there's even some just outside the city limits because people from the city do probably attend those. So we have a listing and we send
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but or every other month. But most of the time, if we got lots of stuff going on, it's monthly. Okay.
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Yeah. So, okay, so I should go to the list and make sure that we have not taken off something like invest in ‸ environmental stewardship. That is not on here. A lot of these support the well maintained network of parks. I'm looking at our I'm looking at our priorities.
I
guess these would be called the priorities ‸ last
year priority areas.
These are the priority areas.
Yep. That have been the same. And
so what's below it are performance metrics set.
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And so there were a number of things that were on there last year that I didn't see, but
we've not taken anything off that was on there last year.
So nothing's changed the priority that the performance measures may adjust year to year, but nothing is for me. Now.
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And can I just ask about the one specifically the plant 15 trees annually in the city using the arbor mitigation funds. That doesn't seem like a very ambitious goal, particularly since we've lost quite a few this year anyway.
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tree management plan that was written for us a couple of years ago?
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It's it's a I don't know where we are in terms of that was a two year plan.
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But but again, it
was a three year and it's it's over, right? Yeah. Yes.
It was developed.
So
we met a goal. You guys pull your mics down.
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that sort of thing.
Right. ‸ I'd have to take a look at it.
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As we replace
trees. Yeah, I just don't recall that the line of streets was in there.
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it.
It's the preservation of the city canopy to
mitigate
the heat risks that we face living where we do.
Yeah. Okay.
Next.
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Any other questions? Sir.
Just I was wondering if you can see if
you
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can get an update with housing, Cocoa Housing Authority on the project they were looking at doing a couple of years ago, where they're at? If that's still a project that they're looking at?
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Lane
A or something like
that.
A, B, and C. A, B, and C. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're not, but I will get you an update. Okay.
I know they changed management over there.
‸ Right.
Yeah.
Something like that. Yes, sir. Okay. Any other questions?
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Obviously, I'll jump in where...
Before we get started, I just want to command Mrs. Bowman and staff for seven consecutive years, being an unblemished, pristine, clean record,
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But it's a team effort too, so to all 400 plus employees, we're deeply appreciative.
The
floor is yours, ma'am.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Yes, ma'am.
So, at this point in time, I wanted to give you all a financial update, and I'm going to walk you through some of the fund balances that have been assigned in previous years, and then present to you a list of things that are suggested and going to be a request to be approved for
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balance for fiscal year 24.
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there was 8.8 million
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Since that time, my staff has worked ‸ diligently reconciling all the individual projects in the movement of money. And so, this slide here is presenting to you the projects that have been completed, utilizing that assigned fund balance dating back to fiscal year 21, which means in 22, you would have, Council would have approved use of the money for different projects.
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parks, which there's been a lot of park improvements done, and various things. There was a fence, I guess, erected at Juni Rios Park. If you look down in the bottom right-hand corner, if
I can see, oh, that's not pointing.
There is some projects that are not complete yet, one of which is Juni Rios.
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for economic incentives. One thing that I want you all to keep in mind as I go through these slides is that every year I have to reset what assigned fund
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So, while we were keeping track of all these individual projects, when I do the financial statements, I have to consolidate all the years of assigned fund balance and what's left over and do one comprehensive list. So, while you may see, like Juni Rios had a specific commitment, but like the economic incentives had a bucket of money that wasn't necessarily used over the time. So, some of these numbers may not line up specifically as you work through each slide.
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I'll
say
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And I think we've done a great job
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funding, you all have done a great job in funding capital over the last couple of years there. Most notably, you can see that roof issue and other repairs over at the police department that were ‸ actually terrible. And so, ‸ we've done that. We've done a lot in terms of increased funding for paving and then the village parking. Remember, that was the purchase of the lots there. And so, now that's sort of in the ‸ left-hand column. That's what that was, Rebecca, right?
Yes.
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are saved over ‸ from that.
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Florida City Gas that we got for to grant them the ability to construct an easement over at Lee Winter Park there. ‸ And so, again, in terms of
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hopefully to come out of the hotel deal there. So, ‸ I think those are significantly of note.
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So, the economic incentives, Samantha may know these off the top of our head, but we're going to have a couple of funding commitments to Brightline in the coming months. ‸ So, if you can just hit those.
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Yeah. So, we have as part of that grant application, there is an environmental protection portion that we need to complete to complete the grant. And so, that we will be conducting that in the first quarter. We're working with Public Works to get that completed.
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our responsibility as well. So, we will work with Brightline, closely with Brightline, to conduct what the design of the station will look like.
And then we may be in the business of purchasing mitigation credits, too, with regards to some of the properties that we own out there. But we'll talk about that as we get there. And also of note, you'll
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some parking lot. I can't remember off the top of my head. And you'll see when we get to parks there, there is an additional discussion on funding for Stradley Park. ‸ So, Stradley Park is not too terribly far behind Provost Park in terms of the ‸ total commitment of dollars.
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What is the breakdown on the track in Brevard Museum?
The
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Okay. For the track.
And 10 police?
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a process that I have to go through to figure out what all the classifications are in fund balance in accordance with GASB 54. And so, I do calculations and present to council an amount of money to assign fund balance with. So, in fiscal year
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We had a lot going on with fiscal year 22. We had a grant for Dixon and Indian River Drive. It was later determined not to do that grant.
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And you can see down there in the categories there. We assigned 1.1 million way back when we started
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million because we got additional funding. But then there was other things financially going on with that project. So, we wound up returning some money to fund balance already right off the bat. And keep in mind that the money, any money that's not spent goes back into fund balance at the end of the fiscal year. And I have to reassign the money. So, like I said, my staff has been working very diligently on massive spreadsheets trying to keep track of all these different projects and the costs of them and what happened with all the money. And so, I'm trying to demonstrate to you here what happened with the money for fiscal year 22. Again, as the city manager pointed out, we had additional money committed to paving in sidewalks.
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We did a big upgrade to the fleet software system that was needed. And then we put in place, council approved, to hire high school police and fire cadets and pay for them to go to school. In addition, at the same time, back in 2022, we were having an extremely hard time hiring police officers ‸ and firefighters with any experience. So, council approved a bonus program to hire police officers and firefighters that had experience. Now, over that time, some things have evolved. Council approved an employee, an existing employee. We've had different situations come up that Ms. Jemani can speak to where we found out that with the police officers, they have to be, I think, 19 to be able to start the academy. So, they can't do it right when they get out of high school. And so, we've learned a few things every time.
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recruiting the younger people. But when I get to the assigned fund balance line,
mr jimani
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can speak to the different parameters. So, we are still trying to keep some money set aside for those programs because they have been very successful. In fiscal year 22, there's money left for affordable housing. If you'll recall, we, City Council, had approved money to be set aside for the Michael C. Blake subdivision.
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of which we did use some in fiscal year 24. So, there's only a little bit of money left for that. There was money set aside for museum capital for any one of the museums in case something comes up, like air conditioners seem to come up quite often. And then, there was money left over for the police and fire recruitment and cadets.
And those efforts have paid off on police fire side there. We are, Chief Lamb, how many vacancies away from being full?
Four.
Say it again.
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Four. Four. One just recently created a gentleman that's moving out of state. And so, in one, we're holding open for the high schoolers.
Yes, sir.
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a full house open fire.
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in the police department. I just
checked today. We're ten. ‸ That's including management as well.
Yeah. Which
includes the trainees.
Yes. Yeah, so it includes its trainees. It includes ‸ the management positions there. And so, we're doing really well. We'll talk later on about expanding that ‸ to expanding the cadet programs, if you will, to other city employees.
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a police officer.
so
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So, that was good for us.
I ‸ had ‸ a question about the affordable housing money.
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That was for down payment ‸ assistance, correct? For people purchasing. Is that right? The remaining affordable housing
money?
Yes. Yeah.
‸ So, we've been having to keep track of all these separate buckets, even though the money's going back in a fund balance. And I'm doing a consolidated list of everything each year in the financial statements in order to keep track of these individual buckets of money that council has approved.
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building of the homes.
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But associated with that same project? Yes.
Down
payment assistance for that? Yes. For the Michael C. Blake project?
Only for Michael C. Blake. Because I know Coco has had programs before.
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down payment assistance. That's not that money. That's first time. Yeah, that's not. We still do
that through the state or federal programs there. So, we still have
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other cities are in size. But ‸ we still have down payment and first-time homebuyers assistance.
I just didn't know if it was that pot of money or where that came from.
So,
okay, thank you.
What
was the Dixon and IRD? Oh, ‸ that
was
the road raising the road at Dixon and Indian River Drive. And we got a grant and then that was brought before Council with a decision that was made not to pursue that because the cost benefit of it was not there to raise the road.
And you actually moved.
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Yes.
So,
that
was to keep it from flooding?
Is
that what the-
Yes,
it was
a flooding issue.
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In
theory. The
issue is that it would have created more of a bull. Okay. I wondered
what ‸ the rationale was.
So,
thank you. So,
the one thing that I would like to point out is that there's a lot of the projects that are done for fiscal ‸ year 21 and 22 is assigned fund balance. And so, we're- anything that wasn't completed and won't be on the fiscal year 24 list, we're proposing to just let that money naturally go stay in fund balance, which is where the money went to, so that we can go on and work with the new list.
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on council action. And normally, we don't budget for assigned fund balance as the projects come up. Then staff will come to council. It's usually beyond the city manager signing authority.
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to use
the signed
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fund balance. And that's what I'm proposing to do ‸ going forward. Even though- and you'll see in a few slides, I still got the- these monies, these remaining dollars set aside and assigned fund balance for fiscal year 24.
Well, let me- let me- let me say this and I'll probably say it every year. Um, we do fund balance- the assigning of fund balance different than prior to- to, uh, my arrival. Because we- we come to the council and we ask you for your approval to assign fund balance. Whereas it was a decision that was- that was, uh, rendered in the, uh, in the, uh, preparation of the financial statements.
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And so, so again, I think it's a more transparent, uh, process. It is up front and, and again, not, not, uh, ‸ not listed in the, in the financial statements. Question.
Um, Ms. Bola. Mm-hmm. Projects
that- and this
may be rare that it's happened- projects that come in under the allocated amount. What happens to those dollars? There's no change orders, no change to the contract, or no addition. What happens to that? Does that money ‸ go back into general for
them?
Well, um, if you'll recall, we've come back before council multiple times to say, okay, some of these projects are done and there is some leftover money and what do you want us to do with the money? And,
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And now we're down to where there's like a little bit left. Most of the projects are completed and that's why I'm requesting to just stop keeping track individually, let the budget run its course, and then we're coming up with a, uh, consolidated- new consolidated assigned fund balance list.
Thank you.
I'm petrified potentially with all the layoffs taking place both on state level and federal levels, that we be good stewards of the taxpayer dollars, ladies and gentlemen, because we're,
you know,
traveling in some uncharted waters.
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this is the consolidated list of everything that was left over in fiscal year 23, plus some new things that we found out about in fiscal year 23. So for example, that line for grants of the 1.3 million at that point in time was for Fisk and Indian Fisk and then Dixon and Indian River Drive. Now today, fast forward and closing fiscal year 24, we don't need that reservation of that money any longer. Um, the affordable housing was the money for the Michael C. Blake subdivision.
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was on the previous slides that was reassigned in fiscal year 24. So in fiscal year 24,
it
was 18, 23, I'm sorry. It was 18.7 million dollars. Um, one thing that we did like with the software upgrade was one year we just had an assigned fund balance. The next year we budgeted for it.
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balance like I was talking about.
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gets very confusing for staff. We know it's three million, but it's like, what do we do this year versus that year? And so it's easier to get all the money back together again to keep track of it. And we are taking steps towards doing that software upgrade.
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and all the different ‸ fire trucks and things. Like that that has that rolled over into fiscal year 23.
Hey, can we can we go back go back and talk a little bit about no
you're
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23 the software upgrade and Rob, I mean, and Rebecca, let's just because the general public just sees that as a software upgrade and we need to, we need to drill down a little on a little a little bit more on what that actually is. ‸ So let me let Rob
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All right. That software upgrade is our ERP or enterprise resource planning platform, which is our core systems.
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The current system we're on. I can't go into a lot of detail because it's confidential. However, it's a very, very old system. That does not allow us to conduct business in a modern way with our citizens. Yeah.
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It is the backbone of what you do as an organization in terms of technology. It is it is timekeeping. It's payroll. It's purchasing.
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Payroll
HR.
Budget.
Budget. So, so,
so,
so a little bit more comprehensive and complex
than
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just a simple software upgrade.
So, you know, as
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just mentioned in the back there, we're actually purchasing separate software to get that award winning budget book produced because our current software can't handle it.
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Same thing with our financial statements. We're purchasing separate software to produce the financial statements and ‸ newer software may be able to provide a more robust financial statement. So it's it's become more and more pressing, especially as we want citizens to be able to interact online to make payments to get information about what's going on with their properties. It's just becoming more pressing. So we are taking steps, like I said, to start moving towards choosing a different software and moving forward with that.
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We may wind up having to have consultants work with us business analyst type people to help us do implementation. So it's not just purely the cost of the software and it's an estimate at this point in time. And half of that is in general fund and the other half is in the utility fund. So it's going to be a very expensive labor intensive endeavor.
But we're being proactive. Yes, sir. Thank you.
Okay, so in fiscal year 24, obviously we spent down some of the money. You've seen the projects that have been completed both on paper and physically, you know, you've finished provost and some of these other big projects.
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for
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fund balance in fiscal year 2024. However, we've learned a couple other things that you'll see as we get further along in the presentation. So once we get through those things, then I'll ask Council for approval of this assigned fund balance listing, including these other things that we found out about. But to go through the list in the middle there, you can see the ERP software. So again, I'm not budgeting for these items unless there's already an open purchase order.
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Rios that was for design. But we have other money that's committed and reserved for Juni Rios, which is in this list that's part of that fiscal year 21 and 22 assigned fund balance. So we do have the money set aside for that, but we won't budget for the rest of that until it's decided what to do. We are we received a payment from the county for the TIF transportation impact fees last fiscal year to put towards the design of State Road 524 widening. So I know that I need to reserve that money. The train station, that's the five million dollars that Council's previously approved to put towards building a train station.
Let me let me on the on the widening.
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it comes from transportation impact fees.
So
that's paid for by developers. And so those those 2
pots
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of money are funding entirely.
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of the state road running through our city, but but again, that's very unusual for a city to step up and say, hey, because we want to get this project moving. We'll fund the design of that project there and again, we funded that with TPO dollars and construction, if you will, transportation impact fees.
Okay, so we still have money set aside from I think it was fiscal year 21 for sustainability.
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few minutes, few minutes ago in regards to things that need to be done for the train station. Um, she mentioned some things and I
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some of that money up a little bit using rounded numbers as a guesstimate of trying to give her a little bit of leeway.
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leeway. Um, and then the village parking, you know,
uh,
one of you all asked that there was
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resetting that dollar value to make sure that there's money set aside for village parking, um,
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um, figures again, I reset, um, some of the money for the, um, uh, police and fire recruitment and the cadet program to ensure that there was adequate money there. And then everything else was already committed. And some of those projects are actually finished in fiscal year 25. Um, so as I said, I'll be asking council to, um, uh,
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fund balance list.
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Um, these numbers are going to change a little bit based on updated information. Um, but these are the classifications of fund balance that I'm required by GASB to put forward, uh, non spendable, restricted and, um, non spendable and restricted are hard numbers. There's an account that equals those amounts of money. Um, we do have a stabilization reserve. So we're setting that aside as 13 million. Again, there's another commitment for capital reserve. Those are policies that city council previously said, yes, we want a policy for these things. Uh, we do have a commitment for grants. So
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set aside the money for those, uh, the 16.6 million dollars in assigned fund balance that I showed you on the previous slide. Uh, we did have money for budget
rollovers
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uh, things, um, money that wasn't on purchase orders. Plus money that was on purchase orders is what goes into that budget rollover number.
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uh, repay the debt that we did take out in fiscal year 24. We have not made the purchases yet, so I can't do anything with the early repayment. But once I get to the point where everything's been purchased and we'll probably wind up making a couple of payments on that debt before I get there and then, uh, request council to approve actually repaying that debt, but setting aside money to be able to do that.
Yeah.
And so let me, let me just, uh, expound on a couple of things here. And so, you know, this is a very, uh, conservative approach to, uh, what we're doing, um, you know, because of the uncertainty in the environment, but, but also because I think we need to be, uh, fairly conservative there. And so,
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and, and, um, you know, we can clap our hands and, and,
uh,
thank Mrs. ‸ Bowman that we're in the position to actually, uh, retire, uh, at least budget for retirement and the debt before we actually incur the debt. And so that, that's a, that's a very good thing, you know, um,
can, can you expound on why that is? It's not like I was getting creative.
Yeah. I forgot why that is. Um, no,
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investments. Mm-hmm And,
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our investment performance. Um, and, and, and the best thing to do with those, uh, one-time savings is to actually spend them on, uh, one-time expenditures there. And so, uh, she, she did a yeoman's job or your person's job in, in, uh, in, uh, managing the debt. And again, you know, her and her staff and the financial advisors and the investment advisors do a great job doing that.
And
so we were, we were able to generate much more, much more in, in terms of, uh, uh,
uh,
investment proceeds than we had originally budgeted for, which allows us to, to do that early payoff for debt even before, even before the equipment, uh,
uh,
arrives there. ‸ So very, very proud of her and very happy about that.
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good at telling you what things like GASB are. So tell them, tell them what that is, Rebecca.
Uh,
that's the governmental accounting standards board. So, um, private companies that have to work under the financial accounting set standards board or FASB. And it's a, um, uh, governing body that dictates how we need to record things, uh, how we need to present things, uh, when we recognize our revenue, when we incur a liability. Um, and like I said, how I have to present this information and the financial statements for the lay person to somewhat understand what I'm doing financially.
And, and so again, just very proud of the stabilization, uh, number of the liquidity reserve, the early debt, uh, retirement number.
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it? You don't need an action or on this slide. No,
not on this one, just the assigned fund balance. And then, like I said, I'll come back with the, uh, debt
question.
Yes.
Um, Oh, so what, what were we, what were we getting the debt for? What was that kind of before?
Uh, it was a bunch of different equipment. It was, um, ‸ vehicles. It was radios for the police department. It was quite a few vehicles for public
works.
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We
had two fire trucks were in
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fund balance. And I think there was a third one.
And the liquidity reserve, um, I looked back last year was 8 million. So ‸ we doubled it this year.
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Um, we have a lot of growth. There's a lot of things that we're going to need to plan on in the future, which the
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to make sure that we have money set aside.
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so we don't know
if we're going to get paid for those grants right I'm waiting
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the liquidity reserve, are those dollars that are there, like the immediate?
Yeah, ‸ your stabilization
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Yes,
‸ it's a plan. So if you use that money, you have to have a plan to replenish that money.
So
that would be a catastrophic fund, whereas the liquidity reserve, if ‸ comes up that the train station cost we have to put forward
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instead of five that we've set aside, you would have that money to be able to go to to use. the
Liquidity, yeah it's it's the savings yes it is for for those lean times but also I think it helps and correct me if I'm wrong
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we we we have a recommended very aggressively on that over the last two to three fiscal years.
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that all this there was surplus there, and you were able to take some of those funds and basically cash that out to add
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we were we were recommending the allocation of those additional investment earnings to these accounts yes okay
yes but it's there
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can get in the
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a each year. You know, she's a consistent performer. But, you know I mean chances are you know obviously we all know the markets go ‸ up and down there
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I mean
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duplicate it you know then she's really really good you know ‸ I
don't want to get that aggressive yeah
um
‸ yes and ‸ I think it's just looking so
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the one thing that I just noticed is in the assigned fund balance that I have
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debt, which we do want to be have be part of
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fund balance. And so out of that 16 million
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liquidity reserve, there went
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million.
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And
that's why we try and maintain that strong liquidity reserve. we try to do the best job that we can but obviously I made an error there and it should have been on that list So um all that being said, um that's it's time for us to start looking forward into the future, because that's all looking in the past. And um we need to start thinking about uh what we may have coming up for budget for fiscal year 26.
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um So we just at this point in time, just kind of build in a rough estimate of some of the recurring revenue that we know that we have. um We use
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in property taxes. uh
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um there's a built-in
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in capital assets, so that
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uh You won't see that every year. It's all dependent on what kind of capital he puts in in place in the utility system based on policy. um So overall, right now, today, uh
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do each year we kind of guesstimate okay well where are we at with salaries and what other kind of increases do we think may be coming up? So we built in increases for the salaries which I'll show you in a slide in just a moment what we do have unions we just negotiated contracts that were effective in fiscal year 25 for most of them. So their increases are already built into their contracts
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The cost of utilities, just like the other consumers, we're a consumer of utilities. So when the utility rates go
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and
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we know that's without getting any departmental input. um And again, that's an estimate uh because as we go along, we get more finite numbers. But right now, we're looking at a shortfall of roughly 32 000
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But all that comes with a big question mark because none of that is there's Sorry, a little bit of that is definitely known numbers, but a lot of it is unknown at this point in time because we are very early in our budget process. Can
I ask a
couple questions?
the um So the uh the new money estimates, does that include new residences? Do we have any estimate on that?
No, we don't know what is going to be included on the tax roll right now. okay um When we get further on in the next two to three months, we'll have a better estimate.
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I
still don't think we're going to
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best new construction year because I think a lot of stuff is still it's going to come on the tax rolls uh for for not the fiscal year that we're working on, but the following fiscal year.
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doesn't include probably a a minimal sum, but nonetheless, like the water service utility tax, some of those percentage.
That's a little more granular and we're at a higher level right now. So no, that does not include that. oh
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We're
just kind of at a higher level right now of, okay, just off the bat, these are the things that we we think we know about and we'll go through an analysis as we get further along in the budget process and determine what we think the increases will be with those types of revenue. ‸ Let
me ask one more quick general question though.
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So once an apartment building has their uh certificate of occupancy, they start paying taxes on those properties, right? Whether they're occupied or not.
‸ Yeah. And I, I, well, the rule is or the law is if you come on before January
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you're, you're, you're on for that next fiscal year.
Okay.
Now, and
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So I don't know if they float for a year or how soon she adds them to the property role. I still have that as a question I need to call her on, you know, so, so that's ‸ that's the trick. Everything that's on prior to January
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of uh this
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um
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i just off the top of my head, because
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a few months after that uh after that uh red line. Right. She
meaning Dana? ‸ Is that that ma'am?
Yeah.
Okay. Deputy Mayor?
uh Well, I wanted to ask, um you know, I know that you're giving us generalities now on this and the new money and stuff.
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This is ‸ kind of a preview. Yes, ‸ Okay. I just
want to get back there
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Thank you. Well, we'll talk about our revenues and expenses quite a bit. Yeah. I
figured, I just, thank you
you're welcome Okay, so some of the things, um as the city manager has alluded to, there is and it was an additional increase in homestead exemption that was approved last year. We don't know what that impact is going to be. And then again, um as I spoke previously with the federal spending cuts. We don't know if that is going to have any impact case in point. We're waiting to hear about getting a grant for a train station. So we don't know where, where the federal government's going at this point in time. And as the city manager pointed out in previous slides and, and what the impact will even be on the economy as a whole. um so we just need to keep that in mind as we're going through our budgeting process, because there is a lot of unknowns. um the wage increases for, um the unions, um you can see there on the first line is
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So they're going to be getting a
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increase along with the IAFF, which is, uh police and sorry, fire ‸ rank and file, uh the police rank and file will be getting an
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So they negotiate a
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for the next three years. The
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So that's a pending discussion. And then
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at this point in time. And
again, I want to remind, uh the council uh and the unions, I mean,
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um all the land. And so
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and that's very unusual. um and our, our, all of our agreements actually say, uh pending budgetary appropriations. and so And so, again, they're in there. um We're hopeful that the dollars work out so that we can we can reward uh folks for their hard work. But, you know, again, we do
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under contract. um Three of the five unions under contract. And then I think, are we going,
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The lieutenants and the district chiefs have wage openers, um and that affects eight people total, if you want to, in perspective. Yeah, so we're doing
pretty good. And then you want to talk about the uh expanding the uh the police and fire cadet incentives to to the other city employees or city employees?
Sure. when When we originally wrote the program for the high school recruitment,
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uh different um scenarios that could happen. And so we've been approached by different scenarios. um A couple of them have been internal with city employees that want to go into public safety. We want to encourage um internal employees for going to different departments and going into the academy. So we found a way to sponsor an IT employee who met the program um after the fact. He was
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um So what it did meet that criteria. um the To be a certified police officer, you have to be 19 years old when you graduate and become certified. So you can start the academy at age 18, but by the time
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need to be 19 years old. So so the timing of it with graduation might not always pan out to a high school student. And we did run into that with a um firefighter as well. So so we just need to build in a little cushion where
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so maybe So within like one to two years, because of the criteria, they need to spend some time to get the prerequisites in place.
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So um we worked with that candidate to get their driver's license. And um so it's a lot of things on the back end to get them ready for the academy. So so
we're requesting council's approval to amend the program um to include um essentially hiring cadets, which is young people. You need that
tonight? Yes, sir. okay
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Just gonna ‸ call. You want
it
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from your attorney?
Do we get public comment? yes
I will. I will. Thank you, ma'am.
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one in the audience
would
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like to speak on this island. Going once. Going twice. close this portion of the public ‸ return to the council.
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and
so now,
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I
just wanted to point out to council that um as part of this, um long slide.
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fund balance number, as you noted in previous slides, we did spend some of that money for the um hiring bonuses and for the cadet program. And so I reset that money um included in this assigned fund balance number to
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for each one of those programs.
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that's how much money was in there. We started out with
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‸ We spent some. And so I reset it back up to where it was previously. Okay,
so just a point
of
clarification. Yes, sir. And can
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so chief, uh tell tell them you were out of the room when we talked about the early debt repayment, but tell them what we purchase or what we're purchasing
‸ yes sir um
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don't give
the numbers just give.
yeah Yeah. So we, um we look to replace two items. One was a new engine, uh due to the miles of our reserve engines, like we were talking about once before. And then the last item is the alerting system for the fire station. The current alerting system we have is very antiquated. We can no longer get parts for it. And we've seen on multiple occasions where ‸ it has failed, causing us to miss calls. ‸ for
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that you put in the cars but.
‸ I'm sorry. Fire trucks, fire, fire trucks, not fire engines. But
yes, fire
trucks that actually carry water, people, equipment.
Thanks, I just wanted to make sure the audience at home.
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or uh because we still have parks.
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and waste management. uh
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I'll second. All in favor, saying aye.
Aye.
See you, I just
say, six and
five
minutes. Give
or take, because this ‸ sweet tea of mine
thank you yeah
or internal employees yeah
i think we have a dispatcher right now that wants to be a firefighter so he's actually a veteran air force
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Sorry. That is my buddy. That's all.
That's all right.
Laura can
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It's never ending.
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We'll
repair it. And as soon as they can't find a way, they'll cut it again.
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Yeah.
No
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So she's... Samantha, built some stuff, I don't know. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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to wait on... Okay.
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That's what you said. ‸ Yeah.
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Okay. You're going to start.
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It did say from five to seven, right? Yes.
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Can I get started?
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At least we can
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It's the same one that we had jaw jacking in right here. Yeah.
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Mississippi.
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need a motion to stop the meeting back, please, from recess. Second.
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Aye. City Manager, we have two items left on tonight's agenda.
Yes, sir. So, the next section is parks and rec. And we'll tag team this. I think Mrs. Morgan is going first and then Mrs. Singer and I will jump in where appropriate.
Please recall in August 2024, the city and Brevard County entered into a new parks operation and maintenance agreement. As part of the maintenance agreement, the county wanted to ensure that the funds expended did not exceed the revenues taken in for the special taxing district,
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The the agreement requires the city to pay for additional utilities like electricity, water and sewer includes the county not funding expenditures over $5,000.
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We have also removed three smaller parks from the agreement and incorporated their maintenance into the city's daily operations.
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The city posted a survey for citizens to have a say on what they would like to see
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Sam will now explain the results.
So you can just see here. These are just some of the results we did ask on the survey what your top priorities ‸ were for certain things. And you have the options at the top pickleball courts pavilion playground expansion of the playground walking loop and a soccer mini pitch. And then we asked each person that was taking the survey to prioritize with number one being top priority and number five being the bottom priority. You can see from the results that a addition of a walking
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the survey and then followed by expansion of the playground.
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You remember
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I don't remember off the top of my head and I was trying to look it up on my phone, but I couldn't.
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shows you the majority of people wanted to see a walking loop that took the circuit.
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a little later about the soccer mini pitch. About that concept.
I
like that concept.
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of the loop.
Expanding the walking.
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It's it's not very walkable. Yeah, it's got some some trip hazards and and.
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length of it too, right?
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I think there's maybe one or two gaps, but it does actually loop the whole entire project.
Okay, we just make it a walkable loop.
Yeah, there you go.
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available to fund these projects. Based on the survey, I have included the cost for the individual project components.
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walking loop. This would include the tennis court stabilization. There's some areas where the tennis court is actually undermined. Um, the expansion of the
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This would include stabilization of the area and the installation of the equipment.
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And this would be up
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you want to park there and ask questions?
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Go ahead, ma'am.
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from where we're supposed to have a 50 foot easement to ‸ Cocoa Conservation Area and where we have all those lovely walking trails that nobody knows is there.
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money, some of that money towards putting in that, putting in a pathway or a way to go back, if you go back to 2003 when the easement was first given to the city, they wanted us to only use it as an easement to get back to the conservation area. And part of that plan at that point was to put in that parking lot there to accommodate
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And I know a lot of people who would love, especially with the train station right down the road and all the other things that are going on in that area, if we had a lovely sign that said Cocoa Conservation Area, people would go back there and would give them a whole lot more walking area than the walking loop around the thing. And you can do it with those papers that have holes in them. That's what they did at my church for the driveway.
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Area ‸ on the map, which a lot of people want very much in my district to be able to get to. So I personally would like to see some of that happen.
Let me ask you, Abby, do we, and Kristen may be able to answer this too. So we have the easement to the conservation area, but do we have area that allows us to construct a parking lot or ‸ parking area?
It's actually a 55 foot easement, but it is, it's a drainage easement. So yes, and it's actually, I'm not quite sure how many linear feet of it it is, but it's, it's, it's, it's long.
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is not where we ultimately ended up at. And so, and so Abby said, it's a 55 foot
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And I, I think that I'm not sure where we ended up on that. If we, if that easement was maintained or if at, at the, when that deal was finally ‸ executed, if the developer took that easement off the table.
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What,
what year is that?
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Okay. So, um, yeah, I'm just trying to get clarification. So we'll, so we'll know, we'll know where, where we're at for sure.
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be the parking here.
No, it's the easement back. You put the parking back in the, at the start of the conservation.
Yeah. That's what I'm, that's what I'm asking her. If 55 foot easement, which is an access drainage easement, can you fit parking in a 55 foot easement? Where, where's that?
I didn't print out everything.
I
mean, I've got a bunch of, and yeah, you've got it.
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‸ dollar general. And it's there. It exists. This one is, it's kind
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So that 50 foot easement is just east of dollar general and is not part of the 55 foot easement that was provided to the city as part of the Integra, um, uh, uh, conveyance.
And so the, I just need to see the concept of where the parking was.
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One
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was colored and it showed the 50 foot easement and then the parking that was right. Um, it was on conservation land.
Yeah. And we'll, we'll figure it out regardless of that. That is a, again, I just have
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do it. Yeah. Yeah.
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Just asking the question.
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Would that alleviate some of that traffic flow?
Because you'd have a main entrance. Yes.
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lot of that traffic flow. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because,
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‸ competition taking place.
It would be at
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connects to the trails that are currently there.
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We're going to meet again. And we'll get that address. Great.
Thank you so much.
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this was the opinion of two women.
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And it's just not in such a small loop. Yeah. That,
you know.
That's the
real loop she's talking about? Yeah.
Yeah. I
was going to ask what is the name?
Yeah. And as far as pickleball courts, yeah, it's the thing today, but yesterday it was something else. Well, they
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Okay. Um, they have a pavilion?
Yes. There's two
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And I've had ‸ birthday parties. Yeah.
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stuff needs to be done.
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there.
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On any of those projects.
Or any of, anything that's not up there? I mean, ‸ we're just, we're looking for direction. Um.
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Okay. In the event, if, I'm just asking. Yes. In the event, if we're not assessing, yes sir, what's the next priority? I'm just saying.
Well, the next priority would be, obviously, still be fixing at the park what's getting washed away ‸ needs to be fixed. Um, and, um, then, from there,
you
know, an expanded playground, you can always, as a, uh, the equipment doesn't last forever. So, but that would be my thing for that. I don't know that
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another pavilion and again, pickleball courts, they can use the tennis courts, so.
So, so, Mr. Mayor.
Yes sir, can I hear from the council?
Yeah, yeah,
sorry, sorry.
I know you're
going
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um,
and we're looking at doing a parking lot, we're kind of going to talk about that big lake, uh,
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section,
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seashells or whatever.
Cocaine. Cocaine.
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taken from, an actual proposal to to come in and remove broken concrete and to regrade and certain areas that are uneven and do have trip hazards and to kind of make it walkable.
‸ And
to also stabilize that area near the tennis court.
okay
‸ Yeah, this
‸ this is a, this is, yeah, the ‸ county replaced some, some equipment. This is expanding the playground. yeah
Is that it, sir? Yes, Okay, Councilwoman calls, and Councilman ball
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um So, yeah last year, um I brought up last week,
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got
you covered. Point
well taken. Go ahead. Abby, did you have anything? Did you have anything? Well, before we leave here, I mean, i I've heard the individual thoughts and prioritization there. are you Are you guys going to give that to us as a motion, the priorities
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to, yeah.
Investigate. Investigate.
Investigate uh making uh the easement and parking lot to the conservation area. Second. Well,
we can, we can, let me, let me, here here's what I heard there. So,
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improve access to the conservation area. Because the, and the, and the, the, and then we'll research because we think there
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lot on it that I don't think exists right now that you probably did see the, in the originals, but
we'll
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clarify that. And so I heard that i i
think that
as number one, ‸ heard as number two,
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even if she didn't do the walking loop. So that's why I listed that separately. Now, that's just my notes. I could be wrong on that, but, it but again, um
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That's why. And so again, it would be parking lot with access to the cocoa conservation area is Number one, the stabilization of surfaces is number two, and then some sort of enhancement expansion, uh improvement of the walking loop is number
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‸ i
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finish my motion to include markers in the trailhead and signage to the Cocoa
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And I
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amend my second to reflect
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motion. Mr. Mayor, respectfully, Deputy Mayor Weeks, is your motion the same as my notes?
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areas that are washed out at the tennis court and at the park.
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Okay, so just the two priorities. Gotcha.
Okay.
That's my second. To amend, can you reflect your motion? He's gonna ‸ call the question of all of
your
favor saying. Aye.
Is
there further comment?
‸ Can
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Okay, go ahead, sir. All right, we're gonna ‸ move on to Stradley.
So there is parts capital contingency available for additional projects. Here are some staff recommendations. So the county has provided the cost for the football field concessions renovations. The cost is $619,300. The county is showing that they've budgeted $284,000 for the football concessions project. This would leave a city cost of $335,300 to move forward with the project. The county also has $200,000 budgeted for the softball and baseball concessions renovations projects. And so we could have the city pay for the shortfall for the
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Or we could have the $200,000 added to the football field concessions project. And we'd still be at a shortfall of about $136,000. And
so the recommendation is in the simple, and she did a good job of the math. So $619,300 is the football project.
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And so we would suggest that if the council wants to consider going forward with that project that we do it out of, I think it was fund balances.
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to.
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And then we would have the softball and baseball concession project for the $200,000.
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that project themselves. So two separate projects. Again, the one, the football project would
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It's just, ugh.
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sports.
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that
has
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deal
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No, no, we, we, we, we have the new deal. And as I understand it, Rockledge will
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The, but we're also the only city in the agreement that is being donated to.
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were getting more from ‸ the special district tax and perhaps even the countywide general fund than we were putting into it. So this
is a perfect example of where we can have people
with the
parks
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county system because people from all over the county use parks in different municipalities.
Yes, and these were designed for just that purpose. These are district wide parks. And so when the, when the, when the, when the special
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that purposes so that anybody from unincorporated, uh, Brevard,
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of Rockledge could utilize these parks. So there, they are district parks just like, uh, provost is a district park and I forget the other district park.
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Thank you. Travis there. So you're, you're right on that point. But again, we, we've inked the deal. Uh, this is, and again, we, we remember earlier, Mrs. Bowman showed you the 700 or whatever it was that we, that we did for the football, uh, field there. And so, so we, we've done a,
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to take, we're not pitting softball and baseball against football. Um, it is 619, 300 for the football project county being 284 and the city being 335, 300. And, and I'll, I'll submit that for your consideration.
Councilwoman Costs, what are your wishes, ‸ ma'am?
Well, I want to see something they've done.
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So, just to be clear, you're, um, requesting approval to do the, uh, football
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Yes.
That's right. Okay.
And
then the softball will have to wait.
No, softball is budgeted
by the county. The
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They can pay
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So, so they have it budgeted.
And
so again, again, but I also ask for your approval of that too, um,
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that project as a part of, uh, of, uh,
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our park inventory.
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I mean, I still love the acoustic cushion that Travis, so that it's a usable recreation center. It's a recreation center that's close to an area.
whether it
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be developing more.
It
has ‸ potential to be used for, um, you know, right now it's underutilized because the technology is kind of,
um,
um, the acoustics are a big part of it. And then the computers that we invest with, unless they have some sort of curtain or divider in their
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area, they just have to be used.
So...
Yes. I'm getting ready.
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You got something to say? ‸ Councilwoman, cause you finished, ma'am?
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Okay.
Yeah. I have a, I have a response from the new parks and rec director and I'll send that out to you. Um, yeah. Acoustics and the, uh, and the, uh, computer.
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to make sure that we include, um, the football organization into what this may look like. Um, the reason why I say that, because ‸ once
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um, you had a member of their leadership, uh, ridicule us for the decision that we made, uh, with ‸ improvements at the park. And so if they're included, you can't ridicule anybody. And so I would like for them to be, um, part of the discussion. ‸ Yeah.
They, they were, remember ‸ the football field was a redoing of the field. That's pretty basic. Um,
because
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you remember they had, uh, ‸ drainage
grates
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so we did the proper crowning over there.
They,
they've been included. This one, I know for sure they've been included.
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and they have the use agreement with parks there, but I will make
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I would like
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I kind of went over it. ‸ You mean before? Uh, after we completed the last project.
And
so, so that I'm clear and I hear what they hear. There won't be any, any windows.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I'll let you guys get to the most. Yeah. That's all.
Okay.
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Yeah. I'm getting ready to call the question. I'm just letting it finish. I got a question for the attorney.
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I don't, you know, here's what I'm saying. I'm trying to comprehend. What does he mean by being included?
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want to be there doing the planning process because.
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We would notice it. That's all.
I think the planning process is done. It's designed. I know that they, they designed it with input from the, uh, from the football, but, but that's easy enough to prove or disprove there. So, all right. So I think it's easy enough to handle.
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Chair's going to call the question. I'm in favor of
it
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Aye. Seven unanimous.
And it was
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And again, Mr. Mayor, that, that includes the softball, baseball concession project too, even though the county is taking care of that out of the district revenues.
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to make sure it's legit. If you're there, we have to make notice that others council members want to be there.
because
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he used to coach there.
So.
Well, I think, ‸ I'm
sorry, Mr. I mean, the important thing as we walk into these meetings is,
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I mean, ‸ I'm pretty sure they, if there is a design, I think it includes the, uh, the concession room where you, where you hand out the,
uh,
it may include some renovations to the, uh, to the, to the locker rooms, maybe upstairs and the equipment room there. So I think, I think all of that has been agreed to by all of the parties there. And this is the 619,300 there. Um, yeah. Okay. So, so,
so
Mr. Mayor, as, as we move to this, uh, soccer mini pitch and I will let Mr. Mr. Beach, Mr. Beach tell you what a soccer mini pitch is.
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I'm awake now.
Yeah. Go ahead. Tell him, tell him what this mini pitch is.
Mr. A mini pitch is just a, a small soccer field with an artificial surface. It has walls around it. Uh, it's like essentially, uh, an indoor soccer field, but it's not indoors, it's outdoors. And so they're good for urban environments. And
so they cost, and if you, if you had an old tennis court, you could put it right on
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Um, it's a, there is a, there is a federal grant process. Um, there's a grant process, um,
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singer and I had the, the, the conversation with, uh, Space Coast United soccer to provide programming. And it, and it really is. And, and I, someone told me about the concept. I think the concept is a great concept because it drives activities into our parks.
It
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uh, with regards to building a community and even, and even getting, uh, kids to college there. And then my, my, my, my, uh, my oldest brother was ‸ football scholarship. My second oldest was a baseball scholarship, and I was a football scholarship.
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we had to run up and down the field to, uh, to,
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take advantage of the opportunity for the scholarship. And soccer gives us, uh, that ability to, to, to introduce, uh, kids from, um, our, our, uh, from different demographics to, uh, a different sport that has a whole lot of scholarship opportunities. And so, so we would partner with, uh, Space Coast United soccer and they would do the programming. They would do, they would provide the coaching, um, the operations of the league or the training foundation, if you will.
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kids and families into the park and driving the activity that we don't want out of the park. You can see the listing of associations that are, that are, um, that are, uh, supportive of our sponsors or, uh, or somehow connected with, uh, with the many pitches. And so what I'm simply asking tonight is that you give us the authority to apply for any grants that may be out there and to further pursue, uh, this endeavor. Samantha, did I miss anything?
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I have two comments and then,
uh,
‸ listen to council members.
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Because it's changing.
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I love it all. Um, the other thing is the youngest professional athletes, do you know who they are? soccer players. At the age of 13, 14, you can be a professional soccer player. That supersedes gaming and all of that other scenarios, but I'm in favor of this mini-pinch grant if there's no cost to us just to do our own due diligence and research and come back with the information.
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board right there.
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Maybe I wouldn't have played football and I wouldn't have had an artificial knee. ‸ But it's all good.
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Yes, ma'am.
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After you, Deputy Mayor.
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say we've got
you know, women's
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and men's professional in Orlando right here. So soccer is a big thing.
And
I will say, you all have met my son, that little fella. He played soccer, but he kept tripping over his own feet. So he was not a good soccer player. He played drums instead. ‸ But anyway, but ‸ I do think it's not going to cost the same thing. It's a great place to start.
Okay. Location.
Okay. ‸ We're going to do it this way, doing things decent in order
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Then I don't know who between y'all two. Okay. Go ahead.
I just wanted to circle back. I know our conversation started a little rough about our parks this morning, but to be clear, I ‸ certainly support the investment we've been making into our parks, specifically Provost Park.
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city. And that served kids from all the way from age five up to 14. So that's been a big...
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to see going out of Provost. And one of our biggest organizations that use Provost Park to this day is soccer. You go out there on a Sunday, it's jam-packed with kids, adults. And, you know, you certainly want to ‸ do anything you can to keep increasing that positive foot traffic out there. So I'm certainly in support of it. Um, and it's something that we can look to and see that it's working. So, yep. Okay.
Next.
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Oh, yeah.
Well, we're
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so you have tons of acreage. I don't say tons.
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But you also have the soccer fields that are... That are... That are north of the driveway. That's north of the community engagement center. So you could move the soccer over to the west side. You could do it there. You could actually make a new parking lot where the old parking lot is.
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Provost. You know, it requires some reconfiguration. And that's why I was a little... You know, don't... Don't make your motion to say it won't cost us anything. You know, but ‸ again, it... It... You know, it will
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maybe, you know, and so again, any grant application would have to come back for you guys to approve. I'm just saying let us chase, at least apply for the grant application, see how far we can get, let us actually determine what the costs are going to be because
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have a real opportunity where we have Space Coast United Soccer which has approximately how many members, Samantha?
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Um... I
think
there's... There are up to 4,000 kids now.
And that's... That's... That's 4,000 kids in county. And one of the things I know for sure is... When you get an opportunity to see people that are different, to interact with people that are different, you... You... You... It only serves you better. And who you... Makes who you are better. And broadens who you are as a person.
And
so... So I think how wonderful it would be if we could have that organization providing ‸ programming in our neighborhood.
And they currently do at Endeavor, too. He did mention that.
Oh,
that's right.
That's... That's another... That's a huge thing that I actually forgot. And so... And so they actually... They actually have a functioning program at Endeavor.
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They don't have the mini pitch. They do it on the grass, you know. And so maybe we explore... If the grant is available, we explore something with the school board, you know. So that's... That's... Yeah, that's a...
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He has 100-plus kids at Endeavor.
Yeah. And they just do that through, like, their summer program. So they have a coach comes in and works with the kids that are there.
Yeah.
So you should have had her doing that.
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That's what I have... I have them to remind me of the...
I like the idea of that west side of the rugby field. Because it's nothing ever been there.
Well, I didn't want to say that out loud. Because, you know, that... Touchy.
Right.
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But there is... There is. And if you're not familiar with it there, on... And I don't know if somebody's looking at the property appraisers' website.
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soccer field. I don't know what the dimensions are of the current soccer field.
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And north. West corner.
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Yeah.
The
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I'll second it. Y'all scared?
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scared.
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reconfiguration comes into as well. Okay. All right, Chase, I'm going
to
call the question all in favor.
Aye.
I just have unanimously. We've done that. Provost, special needs. Here we go, councilman. Point well taken. Okay.
So we did have a resident come in. I believe it was one of these meetings last year requesting some special needs equipment. At one of our playgrounds, we did look at all of ‸ the parks and found that provost actually has the room near the current playground to expand.
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of the equipment covered. Unfortunately, the one that we found does not cover our area right now. They said they could expand in the future, but right now it does not cover it. So then we went out after that and got quotes, started getting quotes on equipment. And you can see that that equipment is ‸ quite costly. But these are just some of the pieces and the different quotes that we've received. And so we just need a motion to, I think Rebecca was going to say, to cap
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provost to include the special needs equipment. So
we would bring that back to them? We would have to bring that back
to
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So they do.
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You have your five pieces or your two pieces.
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And then play more is your bottom two. ‸ I
don't see 10 pieces of equipment anywhere.
‸ So the bottom has 10 pieces. There's a bunch of pieces in there. And then they are also including the two swings on the right, all the way on the right-hand side as well.
So
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Oh, Jesus.
Okay.
One, two,
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go with it. Go ahead, man. So I think the last year, provost was a conversation, but also
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I think you brought that point up.
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So maybe split the baby and have, you know, a few pieces here and a few pieces at Anderson. And still stay up underneath ‸ that couch.
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at the space too.
So
just keep that in mind that these do need space. So that's why we had looked at provost was the available space of surrounding where it is right now. Okay. So
we can take a look at it. ‸ I'll make a motion to.
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We'll discuss. I'll discuss.
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Not to exceed a hundred thousand. Don't
worry
about the options.
I
think your. Your motion. Sir. Would be. To pursue the purchase of special needs playground equipment up to an amount of a hundred thousand dollars.
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What
he said.
That's not me y'all.
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‸ Okay. We have a motion
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I'll second it for discussion. Okay. Now which one of you two ladies. Which lady would like to go first?
Sure.
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Yes. West Melbourne. They have a special needs. Right. So
what.
Do we
know. Because. I mean there are a lot of special needs. So. Just to be able to. Just to make sure that we spend. Oh okay.
Yeah we. We. I know a whole lot about the field of dreams.
Right.
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Yeah. That was. That was originally. That was a county waste management. Right.
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And so. And so.
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And. And
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We. We will. We will reach out to whomever. And make sure that we're buying equipment. The proper equipment. Remember we just
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the one family that came. And so. We can certainly look at the field of dreams. And get some. Some more expert advice on what we should be buying.
Okay.
Is that it ma'am? Yep. Okay. Ma'am. Deputy.
My concern about splitting it is.
If
you have a special needs child.
Or
different special needs children. Having it split.
And
just having a few pieces here. And a few pieces there. Seems like you would want it. One destination. So that.
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Have multiple things. Okay. To do. Versus splitting it up. Okay. Because. Even if there's only one other one. In the county right now. They're going to look for that. ‸ That
location. As in the special needs park.
Yes. The special needs park. So. Whichever place works best for.
‸ I
just. Okay.
I amend
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I'll second. And amend my motion to reflect yours. Okay.
So
provost part only.
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Listen to my deputy mayor.
Yeah.
And then that's what I'm saying. Maybe next year. Or the following year. Or every other year.
We
address each park.
within our city limits.
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Just for potential. But we need to address this. So we can move forward. You got your hand up. Okay.
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This decision tonight. Will still fall under last year's. Since we made a motion last year.
I'm getting to that.
Okay.
So right now. I just need a motion. Approved to. Spend up to 100,000 on.
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All right. Special needs.
All
right.
All right.
Good.
Yes, sir.
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I'm a favorite saying. Aye.
Aye's have it unanimously.
Our last item for tonight.
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Public safety.
Yeah.
We had the waste management. I could bring that back at a. At a Tuesday's council meeting. Can
I. Can I go.
Okay.
Can I go
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Gotcha, sir.
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Um, I am requesting that this be amended and include the early repayment of $3 million for the debt. Uh, the city council approval of $335,300 for football concessions that was approved this evening. And $100,000 for special needs, um, playground equipment that was approved this evening also.
So,
I'm requesting city council to take a motion to approve this list with the amendments I just noticed.
So moved.
Second.
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Okay. Uh, we have a motion on the floor by, uh, chair, uh, based on staff recommendation. And the second came from.
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That all right? Okay. Mrs. Bowman, go back to that real quick. That, that's not their final action on that. On
a signed fund balance for fiscal year 24 years.
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that page?
No, I was waiting for them to get to this point because of other additional things we found out about.
If it's the final, then you're going to need the public comment.
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Okay. Okay. Don't let me forget to extend this meeting because we superseded seven o'clock. Okay. All right. Cool beans. Um, we have an emotion on the floor by, uh, by the chair
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a second by deputy mayor weeks. Uh, we're going to close this portion to council open to the public. Please come forward. State your name. Uh, and you have 180 seconds to elaborate about the general fund assigned fund balance of 2024. State your name for us.
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They eliminated one of my driveways in front of my house.
Okay.
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You can. We got after this, then we have a public where you can just talk
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that's what you meant.
Okay. Well, I was speaking of general fund. Is it okay, city attorney?
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Thank you for understanding, sir. Appreciate your patience. Okay. We have a motion on the floor by the chair and a second by deputy mayor.
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All in favor, saying aye. Aye. Ayes have it unanimously. Next, chair would like to extend the meeting until eight o'clock up to 8 p.m. I'm looking. Okay. Okay. We got a second on the floor by Councilman Goins. Okay.
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All in favor, saying aye.
Aye.
Ayes have it unanimously.
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Are you ready,
sir?
Yes, sir.
So, so. I don't know who has the clicker. Yeah, just click. I'll let you jump in in a second.
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Thank you. Okay. This you?
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Oh, that might be. ‸ Yeah. So, we think we're at that point where we need to talk about public safety resource, personnel resources, and increasing those resources.
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proposal, but we're quickly getting to that point where we're going to have significant residential and growth and commercial developments that are going to quite naturally lead to a demand for public safety and increased public safety personnel. And now let the chief talk to you about the previous study that identified
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for a fourth station. And so, obviously, you know, and I didn't want to appear argumentative with Councilman Hearn, but, you know, there are some issues that we just don't have enough resources to actually, to tackle those on as aggressively as we want to.
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to maintain safety and traffic management.
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you know, so we're always concerned about our response times with regards to fire. And, again, and I know that this is a certainty for us that we're going to have a Brightline station here one day, and ‸ that's going to create a demand by itself. You know, it's going to increase traffic. It's going to have a transient population, and it's going to be development in and around the station there.
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to start looking at some sort of incremental phasing in of additional resources and police and fire.
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can.
So, the city manager pretty much hit the nail on the head a little over 10 years ago, right before I got here, you had a station relocation study done
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In that station relocation study, they even pointed out the need for a fourth fire station because of the development and growth in the future that we are going to see on the West Cocoa side. Well, now you fast forward, and we're already seeing that growth. Just doing some preliminary numbers, going back and looking at it, just exactly where we're at, we're already starting to see the increase in call volume. And that's
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us what we call a lap over. And
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we're seeing the primary
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already out. So, we're having to send a secondary unit within the city, which is causing gaps in coverage and response times.
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growth of our fire department, not only from a fire station, but from personnel. So, in order to get us there, we would have to include six new firefighters a year over the next three years to get to a minimum staffing of 17 per day in order to put on more trucks and start preparing for that new fire station. That would also include an increase on top of that of administrative staffing with inside our administrative office on 40-hour work week.
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start doing that, we're already starting to see the increase in call volume. So, we're sort of behind the eight ball with the announcement of the Brightline Station. Once that announcement was made, what you're going to see is development, which we have already seen in housing developments, but also commercial
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start buying property, because they want to be built out and already established prior to the station getting here. So, that's happening. I mean, it's happening very rapidly. We saw that with, and I keep calling it the Brightline Community, but
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all the other things that are being built out.
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of show you what the future looks like and where we're headed as far as an organization in order to keep up the ‸ demand and calls for service.
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That's why you see the increase in us coming forward for equipment is because we're putting a lot of miles on these units, and it's causing us to ‸ have more service on the units, more wear and tear, just more call volume altogether.
So,
I would have to go back and look at that station relocation study. We really would need to get that updated according to how our growth was going, but it would be
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subdivision is out in that area in order to answer that NFPA standard of response times and where we're at. Right now, it would take our engine, Station 3, approximately 10 minutes to get back there to the back side of where that Brightline subdivision is and where the calls for service would be, which is way outside of the standard.
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Yeah,
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Yes, ma'am. Okay. And again, that will... Yeah, and there's more in there.
Yeah, grease, what, and all that.
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So, what I'm just trying to paint the picture that
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Mm-hmm.
So,
come back and solve it.
Yeah, and that's why I said we would really have to conduct a new study and have them come back in with the growth and development that's already been approved to ensure that that is still the optimal area for us to answer those response times in accordance to the NFPA standard.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Just remember, that's not as the crow flies and the other portion that they take into that is that overlap. So, it's good to say that that station's there, but if they're not in the station because
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call volume, then that changes that response times. And that's really what we're seeing is that 70% of the time we're having that overlap just within the call volume itself.
The new one may be, again, the study is there, but the new one may be someplace close to 524.
Yeah, absolutely. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, right across the street.
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But even right now, that station, they're already, they're exhausting their resources as well.
Yeah, we're,
they run all the way to the county line.
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as part of our auto aid agreement in the county areas for that station because they can't cover the call volume on that side. So, I mean, that's one of the biggest issues we have right now is we're running a lot of calls for service as their backup to provide services in that area. So.
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‸ City manager,
everything else pretty much presents us. Equipment and personnel, for sure.
I
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just wanted
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But uh
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where they do the dual stations, where they have
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a police substation as well as fire. um So that may be something we could think about as well. um maybe I'm
sorry, sir, you were breaking up
public safety ‸ Maybe maybe maybe even something that at the fire station at the fire station, at the train station,
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I think it talked about, that one parcel, public
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for parks, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. okay
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Yeah, maybe bright line on a bright line parcel. But
also to put in perspective. Sorry,
I don't understand.
‸ To put in perspective how far uh our run uh area is, and the county picks up some of this stuff too,
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to respond to that as well, possibly. So, uh it's definitely that the city is growing and there's a need to start thinking about this stuff. yeah
But at the water plant, Jack, I think if you've had incidents, you've had Orange County run it?
Possibly.
yeah And
the
other part of that is that is not the city's jurisdiction. Yeah, so yeah yeah
right yeah Orange County would run it. the
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Mrs. Singer and I and and uh maybe Mrs. Morgan, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna tag team on this one too.
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You want me to
start? Okay. So just to go over, we um just to give you an overview. As you know, 2021, um we had a new waste management contract. um Per the requirements of the contract, it requires residents to call in bulk yard waste and what they call bulky waste, which is your furniture, construction material, um to be picked up instead of a regularly scheduled bulk pickup day.
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received. And I'll show you on the next slide kind of what that looks like. um
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current our current contract runs through 2028.
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process ever since it started in 2021. um We have done postcards. we've done magnets.
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We've done newsletter uh posts we or stories, videos, social media campaigns. um ‸ And
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about new efforts that we can um have them assist us with as well. um One of the biggest issues we have is as the the mixing um of different trash. So here
we just, we gave you a
side by side um of a Cocoa Beach resident versus a Cocoa resident. And you can see, um just to give you a green waste for Cocoa Beach includes one regular pickup a week. Regardless of whether you have green waste, bulk green waste, everybody has a cart. We have a cart as well that gets picked up regularly once a week. We're talking bulk yard waste. So this is outside of your cart. um Cocoa Beach has a regular pickup. Regardless of whether you have bulk yard waste, it's still, you pay for it once a week.
And you don't, you don't, you don't have to call in. You don't have to remember the number. They come around and whatever you put out, they pick up. Is that correct, Samantha?
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You can see the price difference between their current service and our our current
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would go from the 523 to the 1192,
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um what those differences are.
and And waste management is working to get us what our pricing would be, because ours would not be that much. There are some added costs that Cocoa Beach has um that we may not, um but they're getting some price. And they're also working to see if there's, they have some additional ideas that may help as well with some of the issues that we're having. um But again, there there there's multiple issues, and I think some of the issues that you guys get called on regularly are, we have certain areas, they just will
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know, as much postcards we send out, they're just not making the phone call. um But anybody can call. So if you see that your neighbor has bulk waste sitting outside, you can call and say, come pick up that person's yard waste.
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waste. That's, I mean, that was a question for for for everybody, because
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there. We think our biggest issue, this is a question, our biggest issue in the city is the bulk yard waste. Okay. yeah
And then the other part of that is that if it is mixed with anything, if there is a piece of fence, if there is a piece of furniture, waste management will not pick it up. You know you could call in and they drive by and they see that it's mixed with something, they drive on by. They do not pick it up. So it it's a matter of understanding that you have to separate your piles, which we've also been talking about on these on this material that we push out, but it will not get picked up. So that's where code enforcement is going to come in, where we would have to notify them through code enforcement that they have a mixed pile that's not getting picked up.
And so and so we we we'll work on that with code enforcement. i tell you, waste management has committed to uh working on new ideas with regards to how to become more efficient in the bulk waste pick pick up. and uh
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um And so again, just bringing you this information, this sort of advisory.
The phone calls I get have to do with that they can't get a hold of Waste Management, or they call and they don't come out. uh ‸ For weeks on end to pick up the bulk stuff. I mean
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been less than stellar.
Okay,
‸ let's put their feet to the fire.
Yep. You're
right. Because it's a five-year contract and that that was done in 21.
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and we're talking about next year but they'll
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Yeah,
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because it yeah it's a
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Which is why I hate code enforcement, you know, if the people have called and they haven't picked it up and now here here they are getting code enforcement
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So anyway, not always the case. I understand a lot of them don't call as well, but that's the calls I get. So that's all for me.
And keep in mind too that the yard waste has to be called into Public Works. So not Waste Management. ‸ It gets called into Public Works. So the numbers that are on the magnet are for Public
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of all of the calls that they receive to pick up. Every day. ‸ They email them a list of the addresses they receive calls on.
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It's on everything that we've put out. We have the address or the phone number is to Public Works.
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call somebody else to come pick up the load. And now
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to haul it to the dump.
So
it's
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kind of
like the double dipping. Yeah,
my recollection is in the contract there's no maximum number of pickups there. So, ‸ yeah, if you give us that issue, if you got an address there, we certainly. Because I think the contract is probably silent on whether you have a maximum number of times that they can come out. ‸ you know
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realize is
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it up, put it in your container, and it may take two weeks to get picked up, but it may get done faster than waiting for the bulk yard waste to get done. So you can put it in your yard waste container. You can also utilize your waste container for yard waste as long as there's not waste in the yard waste, in the,
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So I can get to my brother Frank over here. because i got a couple questions.
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State your name. for us we're open for
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And you have
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They put nice sidewalks in. on the promid they eliminated one of my driveways.
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in and they're closer to the intersection than I am. And the second thing is that project took so long, I got overrun by rats. I turned it into your insurance company and they said, well, being it's the city, we can't be held responsible. I sent them a letter from my exterminator that comes to my house often. ‸ was never treated for rats or mice. I was
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for,
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sent the insurance company all the information, the bill that I had to pay. Because that project is extremely... It's not even done yet. And then at one time, this is off the
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your
bulk waste?
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I remember
that was just recently because of the storm, ‸ that's what you're talking about. No, no,
I meant before. I mean,
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been
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and i've you know, they you set your stuff out by ‸ side ‸ the road, they
would
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come by and pick it up. You didn't have to call everybody yeah That's true.
it's a New contract. ‸ New contract.
New contract. so it would be nice if I know that because I got stuff sitting out there for over a month that I didn't know I was supposed to call somebody. And I don't even know who I would call. Man just said
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something with a phone number on
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i got wow ‸ Pardon me? Yes, it does. Real men drive pigs. Okay,
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fill the card out for
us.
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I'm gonna ‸ fill this out now. You're a good man. Thank you, sir. So,
yes, sir.
Any
other questions?
oh I do have one other thing, though, from my driveway. Okay. Just to let y'all know. ‸ I am 100 disabled. back
Okay, sir. Thank you, sir. All right. Come
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then we'll
hear
from the ward. ‸ So,
I know we're gonna ‸ have a budget discussion again, but I wanted to see if if, and I may be just throwing out there, uh if there's any possible incentive programs we can come up with for not, I know we have the small business grants but maybe uh something more specific for, like, restaurants or um retail,
and
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we can possibly explore that.
Yeah. i i think I think that the uh
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to all
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All businesses. they
only there's certain ones, like, um I think, like, liquor stores, those types of things, it does not apply to, but retail and restaurants, it does. well
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was thinking something more bigger, like
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Yeah. um you said chain
restaurants? I don't know if that's a correct term, but, you you know. Yeah,
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you. Okay.
I got you.
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here to see if I can get support from the board, and it's money already set
aside.
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And the first request is something that I had mentioned at the last council meeting, and that is the expense for ‸ security guard in the downtown area that can assist
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change every year that is put into an account for this purpose, and it's actually cheaper than actually hiring a police
officers
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to be there, but they could be in uniform and give the same presence. And
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units that are going to be
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the money is there, I've
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discussed this with everybody, including ‸ city manager, uh and I did exactly what the mayor wanted me to do, was to talk about this subject about ‸ And I'm just hoping that there could be a position
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consensus that we could at least start. And we're not stuck with it. If it doesn't work, you change it. But I'd like to see if I can get a consensus to have this approved. And that's my first question. um
We will we will address your concerns, uh Mr. Greenwood. um It's
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falling on deaf ears.
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So you want me to give
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um Next budget meeting.
all right
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Not
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so yes, sir, but I'm saying there's
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is March. Yeah, we have another one, man. for it In March? Yes, sir.
it's
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not next year. That's good. okay Mr. man the other thing come on with your question, man. Your time is up.
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Well, golf cart. We've been talking about it over a year. Joe Whitley found a way to solve the problem because everybody that's driving around with the golf cart right now could be arrested. Joe Whitley went to North Carolina, got a tag. He's legal now. And that's what I'm thinking of telling people to do, including myself.
You can't. No, man, you can't do this
He's got a tag on his car right now.
Okay, brother. all right
So I'm just hoping that we could look into it to make it
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requirement for the attorney to look into it. And I'm just hoping that this is something that we can go ahead and do. It's a big asset. There's a lot of people
riding
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golf carts all over the downtown area. And I don't want
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is not rocket science. And it's simple. It's easy. Do I have a consensus on that? Next meeting. March. okay i'll be ‸ Aren't
both of these CRA issues? Well,
I was told to go before the council. I did do the CRA. The council says ‸ the one that voted okay sir to be ‸ sir.
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to
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um because that would be, in my mind, the most appropriate funding source there. So so i'd already uh intended on bringing that to the next CRA meeting. And then the golf carts, uh the legal research on that has already been done and presented to you guys. And so, um you know, remember, you got to do the
citywide
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study
right
and you can only regulate um a certain type of golf car and you can't regulate them on state roads. But but the attorney who actually wrote the uh information is here. and So I'll let
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so I think if if Mr Whitley has a golf cart or whatever it is with a with a tag on it and it's a it's a it's
a
a current tag and it's out of
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and antiquated. um
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um yeah. So we have, we have, we have a current business,
that wants
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to do food trucks.
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10 o'clock so ‸ majority of the businesses downtown currently are closed at
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o'clock. And so
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so, they didn't want to compete with food trucks. ‸ I get that. But, there are some businesses that
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outside of CBD by 700 feet or so. And so
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seeking. Yeah. And we don't know what that means. right And so a particular business got coded. They got a violation for that particular device. But it's not really clear on what that device ‸ is. So I think we just, ‸ a few things we can look at.
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March,
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meeting
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I think that is a good conversation
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8 15. Because somebody might just talk up some more. So are
we okay with the City Manager bringing that bringing a cold conversation back? Dealing with attention seeking devices and
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trucks after 10. you
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food trucks after 10. well no this let me just say it this way. So it is
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allowed to have food trucks.
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to say you can have food trucks in that district and sub district after 10 PM. Right.
Because it does not affect those restaurants who are open
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the other issue is the type of sign, banner, attention seeking sign, which is a somewhat a matter of interpretation there. But but again, um I think the code is was pretty clear on that. But but again, just to address, to for
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Is that it?
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change the motion to adjourn. you Got a motion on the floor by uh Deputy Mayor Weeks. Second by the chair.
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