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Sustainability Board

Sustainability Advisory Board Regular Meeting

Date
2023-01-12
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1165
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1632_SA_Reg_Minutes_01_12_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Mervis, Dick Bankhead, Cynthia Johnson, Kimberly Prosser, Jennifer Riggs, Joy Rutherford
  • Arrived after the roll: Shan Lathem (the minutes note: “arrived 6:05pm”)
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Lorraine Koss (Councilmember), JoAnna Zurinsky (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Bankhead, Johnson, Mervis, Prosser, Riggs, Rutherford (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (1)

  • to approve the minutes of September 1, 2022 and December 1, 2022 as written (moved by Prosser, seconded by Bankhead); PASSED 6-0; ayes: Mervis, Bankhead, Johnson, Prosser, Riggs, Rutherford; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2

Motions not adopted (1)

  • to set a meeting for the first Thursday of every month and one or two weeks prior to the meeting it can be determined if a quorum can be established (moved by Johnson, seconded by Riggs); FAILED 2-4; ayes: Johnson, Riggs; nays: Mervis, Bankhead, Prosser, Rutherford — the City's minutes, p. 6

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (SA_Reg_Agenda_01_12_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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Cynthia, you don't have the PAPS book,
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you?
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‸ Okay, so I gave it to someone, so it must
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be.
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Attention, I call
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Sustainability Advisory Board to order. Our first order of business is a Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God and indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Stay standing, Cynthia.
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Father, thank you for gathering us together today. Please align our hearts and wills and minds so that we may understand each other and work in Concord to further the benefit of Cocoa and all its residents and citizens. We ask your name. Amen.
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Amen.
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You're on.
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Okay.
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Board member Dick
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Bankhead.
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Here.
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Board member Cynthia Johnson.
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Here.
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Here. Board member Jennifer Riggs. Here. Board member Joy Rutherford.
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Here.
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[00:04:34] Speaker 1
Okay. Um, approval of the agenda and the minutes. I think you everybody's got a copy of the minutes. The agenda was sent out. Um, are there any additions or corrections of either of those. Minutes.
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Okay.
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that covered both of the meetings that we talked about. Okay. She's here.
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Sorry.
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Oh, you're here.
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I apologize for being tardy.
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Don't apologize.
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No, I do
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There's no
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tardiness. We're all at a level now, but
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you
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can ‸ get by with tardy.
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Well, thank you so much.
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Um,
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one of those.
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What? Hold
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So
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she can see it.
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Oh, it's not for us to see.
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Well, tonight in, in addition, as the, uh, as the agenda indicates, uh, in addition to some updates, um, we're going to try to talk a little bit about, uh, the whole question of priorities and how we're going to move forward, what we're going to do.
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the next couple of months, we will be in a position to, to go to the council and just give a brief report that we're getting things done. And here's the direction we're headed in. So the people that appointed us know that we're alive and well and working. Um,
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priorities for action plans. Um, having gone through the whole sustainability thing again, it's a formidable document, as we have said before, and trying to get some priorities as to how this, this group wants to deal with things, I think is important. And we will hopefully get to that, uh, tonight.
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of you have any questions or concerns about what we're doing or how we're doing things, uh, please feel free to let me know. Um, I'm open to suggestions and thoughts.
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process, but I'm guardedly optimistic that we'll get on down the road, as they'd say. So, um, and I think it's important to remember that we're an advisory board, uh, and therefore it's important that we advise, but also that we understand that our advice should be clear and
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focused,
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because that's how good advice ends up being taken. And so as we proceed, uh, to remember that clarity and focus is, is something that is a, is a good responsibility to have.
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Some things are nice to say, but hard to do. Um,
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every now and then we ought to try a couple of things that maybe are hard to do. So that's kind of
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that said, um, who would like, uh, Oh, wait, we have, uh, that's for you Stockton, huh? The, the updates with the department items from the sustainability plan.
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need to
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switch.
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We, we need to move, um, rearrange the agenda. Uh, we're, we're printing out the update. I thought I had the right one, but I didn't have the correct update. And so if we could do the budget overview and it wasn't cheap with sustainability budget overview, it was designed to be a city budget overview for you guys. ‸ So if you could take three ahead of two, and then by the time she's done with the budget overview, we'll have the, uh, the copies for the update. Um, and so, Mr. Chairman, if that's okay, we'll, we'll do that.
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Yeah, but I need to,
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At least not for me. Okay, so speak up.
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That's, that's, I
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heard you be loud.
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I'm, I'm, I'm very monotone and, but I'll, I'll speak up as, as best I can. So that,
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that level's great. Thank you.
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we'll, we'll have the copies ready for you. Uh, of
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the clerk duties tonight. We have, uh, your, your, your council
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liaison is councilman rip dial
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Uh,
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He's the utilities director.
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beside him. She is the community services director. And so I'll turn it over to Rebecca Bowman, who is the city's finance director to take you through the budget overview.
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Thank you, Mr. Witten.
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Okay. So I've been asked to provide you all with just a general overview of the city's budget. Um, so I'm going to provide you some information. That's a basic process of what we go through every year. When we look at the budget, um, I will tell you that the numbers that we're looking at are, uh, what we use to prepare for fiscal year 23 budget. So we have not updated them for fiscal year 22. We're actually in the process, uh, ‸ closing out the books for fiscal year 22. So when we start to prepare the budget every year, we take a look at what our property values are and, and, um, where we stand. And we kind of have to do an estimate and wind up getting from the property appraiser, um, what the actual increases are as we go through the budget process. And so if you look at the top there in
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of, um, the great recession, uh, when we had the drop in the market,
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property values went down. And so,
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So we always have to take a look at how much money are we getting, how much revenue are we getting from property values? And as you can see
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there were significant decreases and it took us, uh, a lot of years. It took almost 10 years to get us back to where we were when the economy first took the downturn in around 2007. So right now, um, we're at about $1.3 billion in property values and you see there was an increase of 12.1%. Um, that was largely due to new construction. You see all the development going on. Um, and so we are looking at, well, how much is just an increase in property values and how ‸ much of the increase in values due to new construction? Because we always need to be getting new construction to try and increase our property values.
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our money from? Um, you see the blue up there on the right hand side, uh, through taxes is about 27% of money that we collect. That includes not just property taxes, but other taxes such as, um, municipal service taxes and, um, ‸ couple other, um, taxes there.
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other sources. And that's largely inter-fund transfers. So I'll show you as we go along through this, how dependent the general fund is on the utility fund. So, um, just kind of stopping there for a minute. You know, a lot of people's perception is, oh, I pay my taxes and my taxes pays for everything. Um, we have to put money into different buckets and in those buckets, the state state slash contracts tells us how we can spend that money.
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but when it comes to the utility fund that, um, Mr. Walsh has, his money is restricted.
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the general fund, um, to pay certain things such as, um, payment in lieu of franchise fees. Um, and then also what we call an overhead transfer because most of, or a lot of the employees such as myself performs tasks that take care of the utility fund. My staff pays the bills for the utility fund. They pay the payroll for utility fund. I'm recording journal entries for the utility fund. I do the financial statement side, uh, for the utility fund.
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[00:14:24] Speaker 7
services. And that's what that other sources is with the utility fund and a couple other funds. And so you can see just in the picture there that general fund is largely dependent on money coming from other places other than what general fund is in control of. Um, one thing that we go through is we say, okay, we know where we were last year. Now, where are we estimating that we're going to be in this year? Do
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We take initially a conservative estimate of about 3% because we don't want to go too crazy and assume right away we have a 12% increase. And then as we develop our budget, we find out, uh, ‸ we only have a 3% increase because then we have to cut a whole lot. Um, so we take a very conservative approach as we develop the budget, estimate what the property value increases are. And then we have certain, um,
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uh,
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other assessments that we do, um, that have increases that the city council votes on.
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[00:15:36] Speaker 7
We do studies, we hire consultants, they advise us over the long term, what kind of increases we need to have. Uh, the fire assessment has, uh, pledged revenue against it because we bought some 3 fire stations. Um, so we need to show that we have money to pay back that debt that we took out for the fire station. So we have to have this fire assessment and we need to show the debtors.
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[00:16:07] Speaker 7
between utility and stormwater, these, uh, overhead allocations. As I said, that goes up because all of our salaries go up and other costs go up. So that's going to increase as we go along too. Um,
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general fund is government. And we don't operate like a business. We generate enough revenue to cover the services that we're providing. The utility fund, like I said, has to have long term investment in their ‸ utility system. So that, um, it's viable over the long term. They don't have broken pipes. They've got plants that can produce the water, take care of the, uh, wastewater end of it. So, um, they give us a return on our investment. So, um, it's similar to a business and, um, stockholders. So they're giving us a share back. So we estimated there was a 3% increase on that. And in this year, previously, um, the county, um, had an agreement with the city that the city got ownership of Lee Winter Park.
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the park. Well, in fiscal year 23, that's the first year we lost that revenue. So now we need to make up where, where with that loss of revenue, because we still are maintaining the same level of service to maintain the park. But we lost the revenue. So these are the
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of things we're kind of looking at and saying, what do we know about as we're going through the development of the budget?
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revenues of about $730,000. Then we need to take a look at the expenditure side. Uh, normally we have been able
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uh, five different unions. So their salary increases are negotiated by the unions. Um, and then the regular employees get, like I said, generally about a 3% increase. Um, so we have to take that into account to be able to provide for the employees. And as you all know, costs have been going crazy. So, um, we need to give the employees something to help maintain the value of their dollar.
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up and up. Um, Uh, we wound up just under 10% increase. Um, but again, initially we're talking with our, uh, insurance, uh, brokers and they're advising us what they think the renewal on the insurance is going to be. So that's the city. So
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city's cost of providing insurance to the employees. Fuel costs. As you all know, you've seen the prices at the pump. It's gone way
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And then likewise, you see your power bills. The power went
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And then we had different softwares, a couple software programs that we knew that we were going to be purchasing. So we increased
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only had about 700,000 and what we were estimating new revenue to be. So we come up with a shortfall of $546,000. And from there, um, the city manager and myself have to go back to the department, sharpen our pencils, see where we can make cuts. Because by law, we have to have a balanced budget. Yes, sir.
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a lot of the initiatives require a budget and so
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the general fund is probably 43 46 million somewhere in there
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and probably in total 22 million of that comes from um from
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utilities. And so this is ‸ a budget that property taxes are a little over
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million.
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of your core services so if you if you
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it's a very limited budget uh with limited dollars and limited ability to do things there. And so that's just sort of, sort of setting the scale and and the context in which uh we have free, uh our new dollars available each year to do new and different things there. that's that's so part of So
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part of what we're we're being asked to grasp and I don't think we that we've missed it is that times are tight the Budget is tight. And as we proceed with setting our priorities and trying to implement things that came out of the study, we should be aware that fiscally, it may be extremely difficult for the city to take on some of the tasks that are optimistically presented ‸ in that study. Is that a, is that a fair solution?
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Yeah, that's fair and I think she was going to get there and again this this budget and the revenues don't grow by leaps and bounds each, each year. And so it's, it's an incremental tick up. And normally those new dollars are going to sort of cost of living items within the budget. So that's, that's probably it in a nutshell for me
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okay because I ‸ just want to make sure we don't take up your valuable time
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know, by going to the grocery store, that things are challenging. uh you know, we're
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but we're romping along. And so,
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i have
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versus property taxes. Has something changed ‸ Yeah,
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the the city manager changed. and and
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There's always a huge dependency on the utility fund. And I've done analysis over the years. um
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back to the city um with the overhead calculation.
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ability to do anything on the property sort of tax side of the budget.
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know, again, this, this, we provide general services because we get in again, one way or another,
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so we're fortunate enough that we have the water. But again, it's just highlighting that and making sure that there's an understanding that we're taking the 6% return on investment from Jack.
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and all of those things. And again, you know, if this is a sustainability plan for city government, for the community, you got to understand, you got to have a cursory understanding of the budget in my estimation.
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Question.
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y'all been doing a great job of getting, you know, apartments, houses, which all brings infrastructure that we need to supply. So, or look at this current budget
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use it two ways. One, if you got the money and didn't give any more infrastructure, you'd have extra money. And if
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How do you feel about that with all these things we're added? Yeah. I'm not trying to get off this topic. I'm just asking a general question.
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No, I think, I think that's a good question. The, the, the, you know, you see all the building, but
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roll to actually fund the next fiscal year. Okay. And so there's a lot that's going on there, but it's still in construction. And so again, December 31st or January 1st funds the next fiscal year.
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hot and heavy out there. it's it's It's literally, you know,
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two years behind there. So, and again,
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those are not, you know, those are not, uh uh big revenue generators. They they generate something, but but those are not uh big revenue generators. They're just, you know, in terms of union contracts, in terms of insurance, health insurance, all other kinds of insurance, bills that we have to pay,
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increased property evaluation pretty much eats up all of that. Okay.
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Thank you. All right. So bottom line is still times are tough. And so as we prioritize, we have to be aware that that's, that's an issue. Is there anything else budgetarily that we should know?
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of the city, it's not just the current times as the city is always struggling because as the city manager just stated,
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properties are not paying very much in property taxes. So there's always a struggle of trying to meet all the needs to provide those core services. And
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part of the strategic plan, I take it is to try to increase the asset base while controlling the expenditures.
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101. Yeah,
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for for every city, for every county. yes sir everywhere. yeah
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I'm not understanding why you were unhappy
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was there. But,
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investments. um those Those are, to the extent to which his assets depreciate and appreciate each year affects that. And so, and so again, I think you have to to to to educate the council. I think you have to educate the uh the uh the public that this is not ‸ a
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a rich city. uh Again, this city has the ability to provide police, fire, public works,
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And that water utility provides a higher percentage of general government dollars than most cities uh get there. And so, you have to build the tax base. You have to, as Mr.
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you have to have uh residential developments. You have to have multi-family developments. You have to recruit uh industry and businesses. The biggest bang for the buck, obviously, is uh um uh industry You know, it's a it's a a Walmart distribution center, except when Walmart distribution center is getting a tax
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um So, again, it is, and John's orientation was different than mine's.
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um my my uh My experience is um budgetary and financial. And so, so again, uh I think it's just very important to to, again, um say over and over that we are, our general services, again, unlike most cities, are dependent upon what we can draw from our utility system. In terms of return on investment revenues and then what we're able to uh charge him for other things. And
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so, last person. There is no new perception of risk to the water utilities, our ownership of it due to ranches and saying we're gonna ‸ take it back in the 20 years. ‸ we
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Just recently negotiated the consumptive use permit and he can talk about that because that that that's very important. I'm glad you actually. uh brought that up and I'll let Jack tell you where we are on that.
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Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. yeah Stockton. Thank you. um yeah, that's correct. So
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because I had to attend the
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board meeting in Palatka, Florida. That's where
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that's where their headquarters is. And
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is, it's a permit by the water districts. The water districts are are governed by a state statute. They manage water within the state of Florida. We answer to them. and so, we have a
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use permit that permit allows us to draw water to use, to convert into potable
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that you all drink. We have two different sources. We have groundwater and we have surface water and that permit that I took. or i spent about a year and a half negotiating with the district on and all the terms and conditions that go with it
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and it's good for another 20 years so
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i used a combination of our, of course, our history, but also looking at new development, growth. and I work with the planning department. I got all the Vieira, all the stuff that's not been built because we know all those villages are coming. All that stuff is added together, projected on a line, you know, showed the district they agreed with ‸ per capita use. We extend that line out 20 years and we verified. And actually what really happened was is that we actually didn't take a hit because most utilities that are going to or trying or attempting to renew their permits are actually getting curtailed. And the reason being is because some, some consumptions are actually becoming more conservative because people are using less water and that's actually a good thing. But to a certain extent you get penalized because people are using less water in our case
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than than we did
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So our consumption has gone up or I'm sorry, our consumption has gone down and ‸ our actual number of customers continues to rise. So part, a lot of that, a lot, that's actually a really great story for conservation, but it's also a crushing story for the utility because we're collecting rest revenue. If we hadn't been raising rates slowly and incrementally really to drive our capital replacement program, we would have had struggled to keep up with our actual expenses. And so we don't feel it because we've really been talking about capital the last 12 years, but in in fact, it actually has helped that because it's offsetting some of those other loss and revenues of the 1.5
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long way to say that we have a a long-term permit and we are very sustainable with respect to our water withdrawals.
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All right. Is there anything else on the budget side that
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was just going to say is, you know, when we develop our budget, the departments have a lot of different needs. And so we're always
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a balancing act and having to go back and defer replacement of police vehicles, public works vehicles, different types of capital. And so this is just an example of what we have planned in the upcoming years of what the departments are saying their needs are. But we can only really afford to fund about 1.2 million dollars a year so if you see in 23 they were asking for about
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of how are we going to, what's the priority and what can we afford to fund? So, you know, bottom line is we're always trying to figure out how to balance and there are needs that exceed what our revenue sources are.
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All right. But we have agreement that as we consider recommendations and in implementation of the plan, we have to be very sensitive to the limited resources that are available to us from the city. If any, at any given time,
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yes, sir.
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And that's not to say that there are not grants and other activities that can be done or the state that can be hustled or the feds or whoever, where there are sources of funding.
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yes And so
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we're being told
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that
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that help sustainability, if they have costs, we're going to have to find alternative sources for funding. Is that fair?
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Yes,
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‸ Okay. All right. Stockton, uh you want to go to this? Yeah. Yes,
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sir. so Thank
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you very much. You're welcome.
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So, remember, we talked very broadly about how your your sustainability plan is structured. Last time you have uh the five star objectives and in each of those, I'm sorry, goals. And then each of those uh have objectives, initiatives, and then action items there. And so uh this is the sort of spreadsheet that uh that lists out all of those uh goals, objectives, initiatives, and action items there. And so I don't know if you want to walk through this thing to the extent that you you you know where you want to ‸ walk
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through it.
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Well,
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you may want to walk down page by page, but I also have the directors here. um
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um and he probably, and then the fire chief has a few initiatives. on this But
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Charlene can take you directly to hers. And then we can see where where we are in terms of time.
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and Excuse me. I didn't realize my eyes were this tired. I'm just going to run and grab my glasses.
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it adds an additional column when I'm looking at it. It has an additional column.
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that's correct. Yeah,
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‸ So this is the, here's what here's what we're up to column, right? The far right. Yes, sir. Okay. Let's hear it from them
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Jack, do you want to go first?
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Sure. all
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on the second page. Everything in in utilities is blue. So those are, those are my comments in blue.
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about, you know, maintaining and keeping infrastructure, uh doing inventories, identifying repairs. uh I could spend two or three hours probably talking about this, but
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that job. We have been doing that for many, many years. um we have a capital plan that we do, uh
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we're doing one for the reclaim. um and we use those plans as a, as a tool for the future. So it's not what I think, uh we try to put the engineering numbers to it.
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of any kind of facility. We determine whether that, that becomes a priority or creates a ‸ risk for the customers. uh and then we score all those criteria. We put them into a matrix. It pops out.
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multiply those together. And then we try to get the funding to take those top projects. First. That that's, that's how we put our, our infrastructure, put stuff together in general. uh we do about 13 000 or so work orders every year. And those are the guys you see running around the trucks, repairing
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uh making adjustments to meters, installing new meters and turning them off, turning them on, whatever. A lot of things going ‸ On um uh ‸ the next item, I talked about the
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It was a question about, ‸ it's a good question. It's a, it's a really a poignant question for the sustainability committee. So, what do we do in the future? I i kind of just answered that previously. If you have any questions on what I originally said, but essentially the short answer is, is. We have a long-term 20-year permit with the district that provides us enough water for our current demands and anything that I could ever project in the future for the next 20 years. um On the next uh page, there was a item. uh I'm
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for the future. What are you, what are you projecting the growth here? just so, just so I'll have people.
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um Yeah, so I use, I use the uh Bieber, which is the um business
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of Florida. And it's also the same, uh statistical group that the St. John's uses and recognizes. So
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about the annual water quality report about maybe putting. The comment was to put it out more frequently and and i I would say, no, absolutely not. The reason being is because the water quality report is done with very specific, uh number of months and criteria that are measured with a specific number of tests during that criteria. And so it's only published one time a year. We have that always available all, you know, all throughout the year. It's on our website. We have hard copies that we put in the library and other public places. Our conservation officer, you know, gets requests throughout the year. We send those to customers or bring those by them you know as needed. but that is not a document that we would alter the frequency of.
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it one time a year. uh the next, the next item was about hurricane preparedness. uh I think, uh two years ago, I believe we started two or three years ago. We started doing a hurricane, uh kind of a kickoff event at the city hall, uh where all the departments fire police public works. Everybody is kind of in the central corridor. We have flyers handouts preparedness stuff that we get from FEMA stuff that we get from, uh our local Brevard County, um EOC and such. uh we try to give giveaways, just make it interesting buckets. People walk around, they get flyers and they get sponges and they get, you know, uh
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bottles of water, all kinds of stuff. So,
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uh it's pushed out on the
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uh
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‸ Thank you.
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The next item was just a discussion or a recommendation to be a water sense partner. We already are a
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partner and we've been following that criteria for a number of years. uh With that, in regard to social media posts,
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um conservation, uh rain barrels, um um the water drop
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for the kids. I mean, there's all kinds of things that we put out and uh
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to 26 times a year is our goal. So, uh the next item was about the, that we should participate in water efficiency stuff. We've been doing that before I even got here as a director. It's actually part of our consumptive use permit so It's a requirement. uh but for this last
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rebates and
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30, 26 and 34. Sorry. um i have to go pretty far ahead. I think there's one more comment somewhere in here for me. Yeah, um it's under section ‸ n S dash
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pages ahead, sanitary sewer lines and septic impacts and the need for inspections. And
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set over our sanitary systems that are. um um they're, uh they're part of the Department of health. uh
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we don't do inspections. The Department of public health does those kinds of inspections. So that's really not part part of what we would get involved with. And I think that's my last comment.
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assigned to the county because the county is responsible for the permitting and the compliance of septic systems in the county. Not, not each of these cities
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and that's where it stays at the county level.
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So all of my responses are in orange on the final the last column. So
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processing of projects i'm sorry
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sorry,
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can I go back ‸ one question?
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us live and they're not fresh water anymore.
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They're
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salt water uh Then there's more and more of them. And it's all that way all up and down the East Coast. I'm not saying anything you don't know. You know more about it, I'm sure, than I do. ‸ Is it getting... It looks to me like it's getting worse.
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Right. There's a lot of varying opinions on that. It's a hot topic. A lot of people say yes. A lot of people say no.
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I say people, people way smarter than me, mostly hydrogeologists are the folks who study how water flows through rock, essentially. uh
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but I can tell you there's two different kinds of opinions. Some people believe, and I'm kind of falling ‸ that side, that there is a certain limited amount of fresh water that was entrapped in the soil 10 million years ago when the earth formed. And that's the water ‸ we drink out of the aquifer today or portions of that water over a period of time.
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It has necessarily nothing to do with the salt water pressure that I think that people think that the, that the ocean is placing into the groundwater, if you will, from the coast, because
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All up down the East Coast, the more houses we built the more the salt waters come in. uh And it's fact, and I'll be glad to go through that with you, but uh we need to stop here and just agree to disagree. That's
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fine, sir.
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No worries. Okay. So the first one uh I noted was on page five, which
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was expedite processing of projects with an affordable and workforce housing component in zoning planning and building permit processing. And, and so
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which is florida statute 166.04151 which has been utilized by two different housing developments, affordable housing projects,
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without having to go through a full rezoning of the the land that they wish to put an affordable housing project on it. So that saves a lot of time for for the developer to not have to go through an entire rezoning through the city planning department
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that's one of the methods that the state legislator legislature has allowed developers to use. Additionally, we are processing the permits in an expedited manner to assist. So we'll do concurrent approvals of site plan and building plans at the same time, if they're made available to us in order to move the time along. So at the time they receive site plan approval, we hope to have building permit approval at the same time so that they can move right into the issuance of the permits and begin development of the project. And it's up to the developer to provide us with site plan and building plans at the same time if they want it expedited. We can't expedite.
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We do a for our building permits, any affordable housing project that is funded with CDBG home or ship funds. We do not
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permit fees with the exception of the building reviews and any fees that are related to state surcharge fees or any inspection fees that are added onto the project. So that saves the developer some dollars on that project as long as they are funded through CDBG home and ship.
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to move their project along as quickly as possible. We need the developers to work with us to provide us the documentation and so we can do the concurrent reviews. we're more than happy. It actually is easier for us to do a site plan review and a building plan review at the same time because our engineers and water and public works. Everybody can look at the full picture of the project rather than just the site plan first and then maybe a few months later get the building plans. And in that
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regard
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um or discussions between the your departments and the developer
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guidelines and best practices, wastewater management storm water management all
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of that is discussed during the site plan we do several pre-planning meetings with the developers to talk about different affordable housing initiatives such as energy efficiency So we we do request that all of the appliances are energy efficient. uh We do request that they do follow as many of the industry standards related to energy efficiency. And uh we don't force a lot of the heavy requirements on them because the more we we require that is above and beyond what the building code ‸ requires is going to cost those developers more money, which may end up taking them out of the the project in this city. So we want to make sure we work with them. So we provide them with uh these are the goals and objectives that we would like for them to achieve and provide the most energy efficient housing opportunities for the residents of
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uh are there bonus points for efficiency and
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uh We don't have any bonus points because we don't provide any discounts for those. uh If they provide solar, solar fees are all waived um in the city of
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So we have all solar building permits fees waived. uh Those are the only fee waivers that we actually provide to the developers at this point. Okay.
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Thank you.
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do they reimburse you for your work financially? You're waiving all the fees so you're not being paid for your hours that you're working to uh review the plans and provide the documentation. Is anyone paying you for that work?
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No. We don't get reimbursed by the CDBG home or ship for waiving building permit fees.
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And so that's the fees that we we get an upfront fee of for plans review. Okay.
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So there is some.
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Administration of the program itself
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‸ But
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across ‸ country. Some states have rules or laws that the cities cannot impose uh solar panels
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there some limitations in what you can ask for ‸ are there not limitations?
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I don't believe there are any limitations. I believe what we do are recommendations. oh
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We provide recommendations to follow best practices for sustainability measures for energy efficiency and lighting, etc. okay
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So there's nothing included for like the parking, the, I don't know what it's called, uh permeated parking or whatever it is. Pervious parking.
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space? Those are all recommendations
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that are made to the developers that they could use. Those
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a suggestion or a recommendation?
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Suggestion more than a recommendation.
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A comment. um
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they're able to put pervious pavement down, then they don't have to have as much area for their stormwater ponds. ‸ And that's savings because then it turns into building square footage, which turns into dollars and sales. So, and that's where the engineer and the owner have to get together and figure out that, that, that. uh That kind of that local maximum on, on profit and, and, ‸ space and cost. You know, sometimes it may or may not make sense. In other cases, it can give you have a tight site. If you spend maybe a little extra money on the pervious pavement, you can have a smaller stormwater pond, which means you ‸ put a little bit bigger building on there. And all of a sudden now the project becomes viable.
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Right. Or the, although, I mean, one of the ways to do it is you can also put in green space or parks and, you know, have that pavement. ‸ Feed into stormwater holding.
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there's over 180
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So it's, it's not hard to do. It's just digging a hole.
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And I don't know what St. Mary's has, but
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in, but where you park. It's
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‸ right. They have the, uh
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are there, but
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or Do you see people moving that direction as you're seeing people build in our city?
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‸ We haven't, um seen people moving in that direction yet, but I'm sure that that could be a possibility. And again, like Jack said, it all depends on the size of the property and what they want to do, depending on what our stormwater drainage capacity is. uh Florida Avenue, for instance, has the pervious pavers, which are on the parking area, which was a very wise decision to make in order for to allow for the drainage here along Florida Avenue.
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more now than it was back in 2016 when that project was done. And
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you also have to weigh that against flooding, damage, where the
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a simple... Okay, who's next on on the hit list here? I'm still going.
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You
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still got more? Yes.
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six,
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uh the next set of orange sections is encourage
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housing through local zoning for forms. So we've talked about that a little bit with Florida statute 166.
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years. So our next meeting is due to reconvene here in 2023. We have a board that consists of builders, non-profit housing staff, and real estate professionals. and And primarily the discussion is to talk about how to encourage affordable housing. Now, that's a hot topic right now here in Brevard County and throughout the state, throughout the country. And so we want to try to do what we can to uh encourage builders to come in to do some affordable housing or attainable housing projects in order to uh
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where, you know, probably 50 to
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of the Brevard County population falls into that affordable housing category of 80 or below AMI.
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try to provide. Partnering with local nonprofits. The city has partnered with Space Coast Habitat to build
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which was uh six homes for six female veterans who have experienced homelessness or were homeless, homeless. And we were able to work with Habitat to ‸ put them into homes where they are able to live with a
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can call their own. Habitat builds approximately three to
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more within Brevard County. And so we work very well with them and we plan on working continually throughout um the next few years to continue to build more units just like that and creating other types of uh similar to female Veterans Village, but maybe another Veterans Village or some other type of of construction project. So that's something that we want to continually use. Charlene,
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what
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what kind of money ‸ your payments or rent or affordable housing, the ones that are building these here or across the country, what what are those people looking at?
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Are you talking about mortgages or? Either
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median income the monthly rent is around uh
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or anywhere but they're they're they're be paying it for that
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a month.
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Some of them are getting subsidized from the the government if they are using uh housing uh trust
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um they may they may other they may get other subsidy as well. In
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to qualify come you come up with a number dick yeah and then how that number is subsidized for the renter correct be different in different I understand in different areas well you seem confused and so it's
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based on income and it's based on the number of people in the household and so it
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Orchid Lake for instance so Orchid Lake is working with housing for homeless and um ‸ Orchid Lake is on the it's on Michigan and Clear Lake it's right by the uh the new gas station that's right there on the corner of Michigan and Clear Lake so there's going to be 90 units in that uh Orchid Lake
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the one bedroom units are around 705 square feet. The two bedrooms are just a little bit under 900 and
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they received funding from the state of Florida. They are required to have one unit in each of the size uh bedrooms that are
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family. And and their rent will be around 300 a month for a one bedroom, 500 for a two bedroom, and I think 700 for a three bedroom. And don't quote me on that because I don't have the list in front of me, but
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AMI. Right. ‸ That's the bottom. Correct.
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apartment is
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needs. We are part of the housing consortium of Brevard County, and that includes Brevard County, Titusville, Melbourne, Palm Bay, and Coco.
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least twice a month, maybe three ‸ times a month. and And we are discussing some of those trends. We are talking about what is coming out of HUD, uh the new guidelines the new standards, and trying to work together.
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project and another community is not using using their funds, they can contribute some of their funds to another community. We have utilized that for several different housing projects over the years. And in the last 20 years, uh the
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there's eight homes there. uh Palm Bay and Melbourne both contributed several thousand dollars, probably several hundred thousand dollars to to Coco in order for us to build those homes and provide affordable housing. So because at the time they may not have been able to utilize the funds. And so in order to for the housing consortium to work together, all of us have to partner and and try to share in the expenses in order to provide affordable housing. My next area, let's see, go to page number eight and I'm at the bottom of page eight. And and this one is inventory possible designation of historic properties that are associated with communities currently under representative in the National Register of Historic Places
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and among historic national historic landmarks. So we do have an inventory of all of the historic uh structures within the city of
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the ones that are owned by the city and the ones that are owned privately. The privately owned ones are inventoried by Brevard County. They are kept in the Brevard County. Historic Preservation Office. The city has our own historic buildings. We have several structures that are currently on the National Register. We have the historic Cocoa Village Playhouse. that's on the National
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those three structures we have put on the National Register over the last 20 years and have been submitting grant projects in order to uh renovate and provide uh the proper programming for those buildings to keep them sustained. Once
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structure is on the National Register, we're required by the uh the Department of Interior to maintain those buildings as they were provided as grants.
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we have to get permission from the Department of the Interior in order to do any of those renovations. uh Those, there are several homes.
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apologize. I don't have all the lists of all the, the other National Register ‸ locations, but but we do have an inventory. uh
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So you can go to multiple locations to request a list of that. But the Brevard County website has a list of all the buildings that are listed on their historical registry. And um they have several yes Do
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you know ‸ what the number is of the private?
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booklet I have is about 20 pages long and I think there's maybe eight or nine uh structures on each page. So there's probably close to 200 in Brevard County. And
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or helping people, do you use historic tax credits in that structure at all?
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of your actual cost. um and the historic tax credits is a very um lucrative and active market. You may want to look at it. And for and for
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get that. And then, yes, those tax credits,
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Main Street in Florida Main Street to to get funds to do some of the projects that they have. And that's the best resource for some of those in the village that's using their
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like there are a number
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business district in Diamond Square and if we were to approach
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so we currently have a grant that we received through the state of Florida to do some historical
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have been updating that and we also have another grant that we're working on for the
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‸ and so those will have a timeline of historical documents plus interviews, video and audio interviews of a lot of the residents that you just mentioned and their families to talk about the historical significance of the Diamond Square community and ‸ the African American community here in Cocoa as it was a strong community for those that don't know so that the ‸ building the Cocoa Elementary School that was built in 1924 it is a it's called the Rosenwald School and ‸ one of the unique things about the Rosenwald
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build that school and to make it out of block it is one of the few standing block schools that are Rosenwald schools in the entire country most of the schools were made out of wood and whatever they had material wise and none of them are still standing in Brevard County we have very few in the state of Florida very few in the southeast so the uniqueness of that was that the the residents here in Cocoa were able to pull together $11,000 in 1923 to build that school And so it's a it is a neat history to learn and understand and to tell that story of what they did to do that.
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but perhaps probably not a historic in terms of its age there so they're not there's not a lot that's left in terms of buildings that are historic and can be on any register in the registry in the African American community and then ‸ the ‸ the Stone family those are the that's the name associated with ‸ the turn sick
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right so the next one I have is on page 21 and the recommendation says as part of resilience plan
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acquire funding from FEMA emergency shelters emergency operation centers hospital fire stations police department city hall and the water processing facilities right now there's currently no funding from FEMA related to solar conversion of
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is on wind and water mitigation projects and and that is a primary focus now there are public private partnerships that can happen to to do some solar projects within a community but on the overall retrofitting an entire city building is probably not
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having funding from other sources it's not budgetary from what Rebecca discussed there there wouldn't be that kind of money to do retrofits of all of our buildings The next one is reduce permitting fees and simplify process for solar permitting. So we talked about that a little while ago. The city currently
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all solar permit fees for the installation
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every year when we update fees we keep this in effect for all solar projects so last year alone I believe we had 27 permits that were waived for solar panels to be installed on homes
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so those moving from where you wrote in your orange column going over to the third and fourth columns is ‸ an online application is it published broadly on the city website ‸ yes on
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the city's website under the building and permitting there is all of the fees are listed on there and
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when when they put it in there
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in our building permit program it automatically shows them that there is no fee so the only thing they pay is the processing fee for plan review and the state surcharge I guess
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it's the encouragement of getting people to apply
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but I know that she puts it in the newsletter
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and this one is require affordable housing to have minimum solar energy collection to cover maximum use during summer AC season and the goals were to have 5% by 2021 10% by 23 and 80% by 29 and we as a city would be we would not be in a good place if we required solar for construction
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hundred homes and there is a requirement for solar they may take their project elsewhere but recommendations are there so those recommendations are provided up front during the site plan meetings that we have with the developers that the incentives that the city provides is free solar permits so those permitting charges are on a developer, they were building 100 homes, the solar permit ‸ fee would be waived ‸ on the construction of that home. Yes, sir.
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Do you have, when you're talking to the builders, there's one thing to, you know, ‸ talk about solar and we talk about, you know, wind and there's a whole menagerie of that. Does anybody talk to you about low energy homes?
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about, um there's insulation, there's the better windows.
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did they have, what do they say about conversations about that? Do they want something or do we offer something?
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uh we don't offer any incentives. A lot of the builders are coming in with those types of plans already. uh the building code, the Florida building code is pretty strict on the windows. I
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shouldn't have said windows. Yes.
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Yeah. um insulation, they're going to go with what the Florida building code requires. Some will go above and beyond, but, but we require that they meet Florida building code standards. That is the requirement that we have.
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Yeah. There's, there's a obviously steps beyond that. We have one 1200 foot square home was ‸ running on a third power of, uh you know, another one. You know, all I'm saying is
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to do it other than cheaper electricity or, ‸ solar panels, or there's some ways ‸ that uh you know, we're running one home ‸ that ‸ home is 125 amps and
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homes are now wanting to put in 300 amp panels. You know, but we're doing 300
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uh the next one is publish a certified vendors list of the update quarterly, create a channel to receive feedback from the customers. uh so we do have a list on the, the co-op link, the solar co-op link and homeowners can go there to learn about the local vendors. uh the city itself, we do not recommend contractors. uh that is a, it could potentially be a liability for the city to recommend a contractor that if the, if you, the builder does not like that contractor, for some reason, ‸ you could say, well, the city told me to, to use them. So we send them out to different resources out on the internet to to locate uh their ‸ the contractors that they want to per to use for whatever project they're looking for uh but we do not recommend specific contractors but we do have the solar co-op link for them to access which will provide them with ‸ a list of of all the different uh resources for solar and to purchase uh or to get more information about solar. So the next one is on page 24. And this one is advocate to Space Coast Area Transit to acquire alternative fuel buses CNG electric or biofuel uh working with the county and other municipalities strongly encourage conversion to alternative fuel. uh Space Coast Area Transit is a county agency and and although we we work together with them to help improve
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a county to have them do CNG or alternative fuel sources of wood because the county is on a limited budget as well is not something that we can't force them to do that.
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we can say we would love for you to do that but we can't say you need to do that for the buses that work within
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And so I know that many of their buses, some of their new buses are going to alternative fuels
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them on a replacement basis so as a bus comes up for replacement time, that's when they're looking to purchase newer and more efficient vehicles. That's how we would do it here at the city. We wait we have to have a a replacement plan for our vehicles. They have a life expectancy and and we can't just replace all 400 vehicles at one time. It would be too costly for for a city or county to do something like that.
[01:19:33] Speaker 6
I'm kind of curious on that point. um do Does the city use recycled automotive parts to repair their fleet? I
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don't know the answer to that question. I don't think so.
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I would just think at some point that would be a good conversation for us to have because that is actually a carbon negative activity. um and so I think that that would really help push the city forward in a positive way. I think you
[01:20:01] Speaker 4
say we we're not sure. Yeah,
[01:20:04] Speaker 7
the the one thing that I will say is um definitely due to budgetary constraints, Fleet tries to um keep things in house as much as possible and reuse what they can to conserve costs. They're very conscientious about what the costs are.
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‸ what they can do. they get around the liabilities?
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they're They're warrantied. I mean, you wouldn't put a recall part
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a vehicle.
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‸ All right.
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Anything
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else? I just have a couple more to go. uh So the next one's page 25 and this one is research seek incentive vendors of electric bike rentals or identify where there are opportunities or needs for a successful venture. So there was research conducted regarding the lime bikes that are used in other cities and counties. and One of the main challenges was how in some of the other cities what we found was those bikes are just left unattended
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some of these uh electric bike rentals for them to replace return them to a a bike rack or some other location. And what they what we were told was they just dropped the bikes wherever they wanted. They
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do.
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And they do. um At least that's what I've seen in Orlando and Jacksonville and and other cities that I've been to um where those were just left unattended. uh As far as electric bicycles are concerned. We actually purchased several electric bikes uh
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the police actually purchased. I believe five bikes, uh two of which are to be used primarily in the diamond square community for uh doing patrolling efforts and everything else. So so we are looking at other features and other factors to uh help us with our community policing efforts and to to find innovative ways to to use less energy.
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I will say that
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Yes. Electric scooters. And there are places to drop them off. It's just that not everybody chooses them there. Correct. But there are repercussions on your account if you don't. And if you do, then that's a good thing. Right. So um i think it's a really great program. I'm happy to see that in our in our plan. I'm glad it was researched. um you know People who might need to use an electric bike may not be able to afford an electric bike. um i I see them a lot. They're definitely
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getting more affordable.
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looking for to try to support our community, a rental system might still be something that would be worth researching. Okay.
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and uh the item is research and promote home composting. uh So the solution is to add a link to the city's website, directing them to the University of Florida Extension for more information about home composting. There's a lot of classes that they offer there at
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haven't received any ‸ requests uh related to composting.
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class offerings, not just composting, but a lot of other skills that they can teach people gardening and other methods. Is there
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any zoning or other regulatory requirements against composting or how broad it can be or
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mean, I'd have to do some research on that in our code to see if there are any regulations on it
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are. Thank you. And that's all I have.
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Good job. Who's got the yellow?
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yellow coverage, I can understand. All right. Is there
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‸ Before you start, good discussion. Really. You brought out some things.
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Well, once again, we have
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So let's do this. The yellow is going to take a bunch of time too,
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that we're going to set up. And we'll do the yellow last and
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I apologize to the committee, but I think it was very helpful to see that progress is being made and and very understandable.
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away at the next meeting and then whatever time is left. We'll have to have him go as fast as he can go on the yellow or we can set it aside.
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did the clerk look at some meetings or do you have some suggestions? Stockton about the rest of the year. I think somebody was going to look and there's a couple of days like we're at now. And if we can schedule for the rest of the year,
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and I sent that out to you guys.
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particular week in the month and day over the week there, but again, you didn't take any action on that. So, so I don't know if you're going
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have that discussion, but again, she,
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look for quarterly meeting dates.
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Well, what did we pick?
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do it the way that we did it this time, because I'm going to have travel come up last minute that I won't know about. But
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the problem is with any group of any people of two, four, six, eight of us.
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Do you plan much besides Christmas a year out? I would
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like to move. I would like to move that, um, we set a meeting for the first Thursday of every month. ‸ And, uh, two weeks prior to the meeting or a week prior to the meeting, whatever has been done, we check to make sure that everyone is able to attend. And if a quorum can meet, then, uh, we meet. That's my motion. Second.
[01:28:05] Speaker 1
I agree with that. Okay. There's a motion in the second. Is there any further discussion?
[01:28:09] Speaker 6
Well, I would prefer to change that to a Tuesday or Wednesday because most of my travel would start on a Thursday.
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I don't care.
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second. Is there any other discussion? Your discussion is that doesn't work for you, right?
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to a Tuesday or Wednesday. ‸ Now
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we're getting into Robert's rules. You want to amend the emotion and you want to go through all of that?
[01:28:34] Speaker 2
Well, let's, let's discuss that. I know that you can discuss it. She's brought up a good point. Tuesday evenings are a city council
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So Tuesday won't work. We have city staff here. Are Wednesdays currently taken?
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Wednesdays are planning and zoning and order of
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adjustments.
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the committee. So I thought this new day was, hey, it's better to pick a poll so that you'll have everybody here. ‸ You'll have a full discussion. And we don't have issues of not everybody getting to participate.
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Well,
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don't think you're stonewalling. But I do think that if we have, Shannon, you obviously you have your travel and you've talked about that each time. And I don't know, you know, like if you don't have travel on the second Thursday, if we have it set on the first Thursday and you say you can't come, we can see it more people. If everybody can come on the second Thursday, I am totally open to that. If I have a set meeting date, I'm going to do my best to plan my life around that meeting date. Not the same as yours. I'm retired. Right. But I am happy to meet on the second Thursday. If you have a meeting on the first Thursday, I would just like to plan so that I can work around dates because I want to be able to travel. And I want to be able to serve on this committee. And that's why I'm suggesting that we put a set date on and then have flexibility within that set date if we need it. That's my that's my response.
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‸ So my discussion is
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I would not be able to do either. But my travel is very flexible. If I'm in a emergency
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But I know for sure I will not be
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what works for you? Let's try to hash this out and take five minutes and get it.
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I like
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have zero control over the travel. It's conferences that pop up and meetings that come up that I have to attend because I'm president of the automotive recyclers association this year. So it's a one year commitment
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That was your motion, correct?
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‸ Speak up.
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see if the next Thursday is there.
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have? Two, four,
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I would like everybody to
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be here each time, you know, and Shannon works in a great business. I would like for her to be here. You work in a great business. I would like for you to be here. You have a lot, you know, everybody has great background knowledge. Anybody can miss it.
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probably.
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So I like the flexibility. If somebody can't be here, let's check if we can come on a different night. But let's start by planning for a meeting.
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Are we talking monthly or quarterly? ‸ Did we talk quarterly meetings?
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At one point we talked quarterly, but originally when the initial letter came out, it was a monthly meeting.
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So it's not a conflict with other cities being overburden.
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that's fair. So if we ‸ go to something other than once a month, I think we can service you guys.
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‸ Well, perhaps we could, first of all, we need to vote on the motion that's on the floor. Robert's rules.
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Well, hold it. Yeah.
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the motion has been called for. And if you vote in favor of the motion, we'll have a monthly meeting and we'll, and we can have another motion to change that or whatever. But right now there's a motion on the floor. It's been called for. All those in favor.
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‸ Motion
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plan for.
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To have a meeting. To
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have. All those in favor of the motion, please raise your right hand. Those opposed. Same signal.
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this?
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a comment. Until we get through this initial phase, I would, I think it's dreadful to think about a quarter.
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We will have no momentum. So I think for a period of time, we should really consider. ‸ And then thereafter.
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If we just want to go through the yellow and get our priorities. And have some discussions relative to the priorities. Does that require a significant amount of staffing?
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think
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line until we've got some things done. All right, let ‸ the chairs suggest that we have our next meeting next month on whatever that Thursday is. What's the Thursday that we were talking about? I'm sorry. The
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first Thursday.
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So let's ‸ plan on the first Thursday in February. That's okay. Stockton with staff and everybody?
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Not with me.
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I understand that.
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just felt like. So you can beat me up
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later. All right. So the first Thursday in February, is that okay? Mr. City Manager?
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I'll check for Brian, you know, and I'm not even suggesting. No,
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Nobody.
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Every other month, you know, I'll check
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Brian. He has all the yellow and he's not able to make it. Sure.
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We still need to get to our priorities. I'm sure we can fill up an hour and a half and Brian can get a pass for another month or two. All right. First Thursday in February, which is the what?
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February
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At six o'clock?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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there any other business to be brought before the committee at this time?
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I have a question. The home
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sustainability committee person. It wasn't designated to a city department.
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plan, looking for my priorities. But about a month ago, I got really excited about an article that I read in a community that, about home composting and how they changed a lot of things for the community. And it was from ground up, starting with families could save $1,500 a year on the amount of food they bought because the typical family wastes a third of their food. So I am wondering if I need permission or if I can just go ahead and start doing a lot of research, working with IFAs
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Just talking, researching, finding out. Apparently food waste generates more methane than jet fuel, just for reference. So I would like to pursue that personally as a sustainability committee person, if I have permission to do so. Can I work on that?
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I don't
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think you need
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permission from anybody to volunteer. ‸ Good idea. Not that I'm aware of. And just so you know, that's why they have those big pipes and landfills. That's methane and now they sell it.
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Yep.
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And make money.
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Well, then make
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money.
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All right. Anything else?
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Yes.
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I have a question.
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There is reference to mitigation
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in this
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document, ‸ but there's not
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reference to the local
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mitigation
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strategy.
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We do have that.
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That are what, Kim? I didn't.
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That
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Oh.
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Because those are projects
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that was damaged. It's public infrastructure. And
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Well, that's phone money. Big part. Maybe. Okay. Anything else? Going once, going twice. Good meeting. All right. We stand adjourned. Thank you all. Good job. Thank you. I
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I'm
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PAPS thing?
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the PAPS. We'll
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those.
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