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Roll call, please.
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Pam Shia. Here. Patricia
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If a law rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Patricia,
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would you
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like to leave it, please? Certainly. Thank
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you.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you.
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So the next thing we need to do is approve the agenda in the minutes. Our agenda is attached. It's the regular meeting tonight. Any questions on the agenda?
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No, I move we approve the agenda.
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Thank you. Do I have a second?
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I second.
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Thank you. All in favor? Aye. Wonderful. All right. And then we have our minutes from our special meeting on November the 8th.
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Yes. Yes.
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And any questions?
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No.
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Do I hear a motion to accept? Yes.
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I move a motion. I make a motion to accept the special meeting minutes.
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Thank you.
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Second.
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Thank you. All in favor?
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Aye.
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Wonderful. All right. We don't have any old business. We'll move on to the new business. Item number A under new business was withdrawn. We don't need to do anything with that. Correct? Thank you. Okay. We'll move on to item number B. Okay. That's
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Okay.
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Good evening, everyone.
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appendix A zoning article 13 section 19
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provide stormwater retention facilities to retain the runoff of water result resulting from a 10 year storm experience.
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The property is located on
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The future land
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used
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for this property is commercial with general commercial zoning and is
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leased
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to a window tinted business. The applicant made an agreement with
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brightline and
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the general contractor
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signal responsible for installing the new train tracks. The applicant
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agreed
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to allow bright line to use a portion of the property in question. 2705 North Coco Boulevard in exchange. They would provide construction services that included setting old
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castle
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concrete blocks on the property and elevating the existing grades behind the concrete curb on the south side of the property.
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Coco code of ordinance for performing construction without a permit and for the new grading that require a site plan amendment. During the review process for a site plan amendment application public works in accordance with the city of cocoa. Code requested that the applicant provided storm water retention. Proportional to the square footage of the imperial impervious area on site in addition to the storm water runoff resulting from a 10 year storm event.
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Waiver analysis. This is not a new development project and
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area on site is pre-existing. The property which has
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one acre was developed around
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parcel is 0.58 acres or 25,265 square feet of
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area. To meet
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the stormwater retention facility would need to retain the stormwater runoff from impervious areas resulting from a 10-year storm experience, experience within the limits of the property. The precipitation frequency estimated for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event is 7.47 inches or 0.6225 feet.
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The stormwater runoff is typically retained in a stormwater pond. If the pond were two feet deep, which is typically for a dry retention area, the area of the pond would be approximately 5,000 square feet. This would leave little to no room to maneuver on site safely. There are no major safety concerns associated with the request. The changes on site created a minor drainage disturbance to the property to the south, which the property owner will address as a condition for approval. The site grading and blocks installed created a minor water flow to the south property and with further evaluation, the property owner began to install a curb cut to redirect the flow
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right away. As requested by Public Works, Mr. Tomasco initiated site improvements that include the following,
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avoid ‸ erosion, create a curb cut, grade designated area to assist flow direction towards curb cut, indirect stormwater runoff from the driveway to the
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storm or
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inlet within the public right away. Outside
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be completed in a few weeks.
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section 19 one stormwater retention facilities regulations with the following conditions. The waiver should not be effective until after the applicant has secured all the permits and approvals necessary for any development related to the waiver, including applicable site plan amendments and building permits.
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The applicant should coordinate with the city engineer and obtain approval of the agree upon site improvements as follows. To create a four-inch to six-inch berm soda to avoid erosion, to create a curb cut, grade designated area to assist flow direction towards curb cut,
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indirect
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stormwater runoff from the driveway to the stormwater inlet, locating within the public right away. If you have any questions, we do have the applicant here, Mr. Tomasco and also we have our city engineer, Abigail Morgan for any questions you may have.
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Thank you very much.
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Does the applicant have anything to say in addition? You don't have to if you don't want to.
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understand that. All right. Thank you, sir. Okay. Do I hear a motion?
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I move that we accept the recommendation with the agreed upon improvements with the weight. What was the? With the conditions.
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Thank you. Do I have a second?
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Thank you. I'll call for a vote. All in favor. Aye. Aye.
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you very much. It passed. All right. We'll move on to the next item, which, let's see. C on the agenda was withdrawn. Okay. We'll move on to item D. And it
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Meridian.
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Right. Bye-bye. Okay.
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Yeah. I have to recuse myself from the vote for this because I know the applicant
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personally.
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I just saw that not too long ago. So I'm sitting down. Okay.
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Yes.
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Thank you for
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coming.
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‸ For the board,
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and that will become part of the minutes for the next meeting. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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We're ready when you are.
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Okay. Thank you.
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A variance request from Appendix A zoning, Article 13, Section 6 of the City of Cocoa Code,
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rear yard by approximately 2.5 feet, and the required eight-foot side yard setback by approximately five feet, for an approximately 16 foot by eight foot.
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in
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which was planted in 1924. The property is located on the north side of the intersection
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and Meridian Avenue in
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Fairmont Drive. The applicant's original home was built in 1959, and lies on a substandard legally non-conforming lot. The applicant is seeking a variance to accommodate a shed on the property's northwest side corner.
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The
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applicant is seeking a variance to
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accommodate a shed located...
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I repeated myself, I apologize. I said... So the applicant is seeking a variance to accommodate a
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located on the northwest side corner of the property, which was erected without a building permit. ‸ So the waiver analysis. Due to the drain field and shed location, it appears that the request bears no significant special ‸ circumstances that imposes a hardship on the applicant. The location of
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shed, does not ‸ prevent the shed from moving the required five feet to the south side to comply with the code. The location of the septic drain field does not prohibit the shed from being moved 2.5 feet east to comply with the code. Despite being a non-conforming law, the applicant has enough acreage to meet yard and accessory structure setbacks.
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which changed the rear setback ordinance from what was originally 15 feet to 5 feet. This shed
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Staff believes the
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has failed to justify the need for a variance as there, and here we show that there is a space on the property for the shed to be installed properly,
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with Ordinance 08-2023, granting that a shed may be installed five feet from the rear property line and eight feet from the interior property line. As of October 2023, the City of Cocoa Building Department decided to set the minimum size requirement for property owners to request a permit to install a shed to be 120 square feet. Based on the most common permit applications received by the department, there are sheds,
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size 8
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The applicant installed an 8 by 16
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without a permit, and as a result received a code violation. The City initiated
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changing the rear setback from 15 to 5 feet to accommodate most property ‸ owners. And I should highlight for corner lots. Based on the review of the application, according to the stringent evaluation criteria contained within the City Code, Staff recommends denial of
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variance request from Appendix A zoning, Article 13, Section 6 of the City of Cocoa Code, to reduce the required five-foot accessory structure setback in the rear yard by approximately ‸ 2.5 feet, and they require
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side yard setback by approximately five feet for
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That's Monica Pascal and her husband.
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Yes, I have a card.
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I
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The, I think at one point in the PowerPoint, it said it was a waiver. Just want to clarify, make sure for the record that it is a variance that you're being asked to approve or deny as the board deems fit. And also, just wanted to clarify for the record as well, that the ordinance 08-2023 that was adopted by the City Council, it reduces the setback only for purposes of accessory structures.
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example, sheds. But that, the ordinance didn't change the setback, the rear setback generally for all structures. So I just want to clarify that for the, for the board. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Mary Jo Riddle, are you in the room? Thank you.
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Sorry.
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Mary Jo.
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I apologize. If the applicant would like to speak,
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‸ apologize team.
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do you want to change the slides? Do you want to do your presentation?
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Oh, okay. Thank you. Okay. Um, hi, my
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Kirk Passwall.
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Um, first of all, I thank you.
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Before you begin, I'm sorry.
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Sure. I need to swear both of you. And if you're both going to speak.
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Yes.
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If you could just raise your right hand. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I do.
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Thank you very much. Do you want
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us one at a time or both?
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Okay. Uh, as I was saying, thank you, uh, planning zoning for, uh, listening to our variance. Um,
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first of all, this, this is our home when we bought it. As you can see, there's no, uh, carport or garage. That's a screen in ‸ porch chair. Uh, when the house was built in 1959, there was always a shed there. I, I imagine from old records we've seen, there was always a shed and, um, we replaced that shed.
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When we first bought the house, as you can see how close it is to the house. And it was on the property line, uh, which the neighbors here today, uh, with that property line there. ‸ So in 2020 we had it replaced and, um, basically
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just asking for grace here.
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I guess we're off by one or two and that's the new shed right there.
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have it's in the backyard. Okay. And, uh, but what we're concerned about, ‸ I heard what they said about the drain field. Um, but it takes equipment to move this thing. And
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usually ‸ the shutter people or the shed people,
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uh, anchored in this one here.
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where they placed it. So, is
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any questions?
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I have a question. Yeah. It sounds like the concern was not only the setback, but also the size of the shed and the fact that there was no permit for it.
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That's correct. Uh, we were under the impression that we didn't need a, uh, permit at the time when we bought from the, uh, superior sheds. They said no problem. Like I said, this was 2020 when this thing was built. So, um, okay.
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um, the five years today, I spoke to him actually, and
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the five years that he's been selling these sheds.
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have come up to him and said that we have any issues. But he said that for the
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you don't need, um, a permit. So I said, well, that's the state of Florida. And I know that's what you told us when you sold us the shed. We did not know. We didn't knowingly like break the law of, of going over the shed that with the permit, because we were trusting this guy knew what he was doing. ‸ This is his business. They don't pull shed permits for anything.
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So, meanwhile, I'm not the mathematician all the time. So I realized that we're about 28 feet over the 100, but that's like water under the bridge. And also then realizing, had we known, we didn't realize, we just kind of trusted and were thrilled to get a shed in there. But Carlos
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but that we're being
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him and, and say, that there's issues with
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Now, with the setbacks,
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than if we ‸ would have done it the first time. I understand that ‸ paid a lot more, probably a lot more doing it this way.
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that space that we would have to move it four or five feet to the right and then, um, about 20 inches forward is what would be in complete completion and come in compliance to your, ‸ to your setbacks.
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but the way that the lots are cut, they're very odd. If
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go back to, go back to that one. This one, see the shed is tucked into the right, top, top right, which is actually the width wise. We don't have a lot of width. It's wider in the front with the curve, curvature of the, of the corner lot.
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asked them, unknowing of the permit, like, like, mind you, really oblivious, not knowing anything of, we moved here in 2017. So maybe three years prior to that, we've not had anything, you know, knowing about what, what exactly all the rules are.
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part of us thought also through COVID that everything was shut down.
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as a she sheds and making, you know, Airbnb's and stuff, or, you know, just little cottages and she cottages. We're not
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our intent is just to hold our bikes and extracurricular sports stuff.
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‸ So when did you put this shed in what year?
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November of this year. Oh,
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2020. So you installed, you had this shed built on your property in 2020. November
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of 2020.
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And that's when you remove the old shed.
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little bit afterwards.
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The shed that is in the location right now, there was nothing there before. There was nothing there before.
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That one is still there?
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2020?
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new shed put in in 2020.
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And then you removed the shed.
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you? Was it a local company? Superior Sheds built the blue,
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the other... The new one. Yeah. That one.
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understood you correctly, when you had them come out and give you the quote and build the shed, they were unaware that there was an ordinance at the time in place to say where the shed could be placed and that you had to go in before the city and get a permit.
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Correct. They said that they didn't do permits and that ours shouldn't be needing one because it's
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with it. We trusted them.
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So with that, that's why I was trying to reiterate that Carlos Santos is the one that said that we're the first case that we, as of our, as our has ever come up to say that the city of Cocoa is now pointing out a certain, we're the first ones. So anyway, he is willing to get on the phone just to verify that as something to just
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it's not hearsay.
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And I did tell him between six and seven. He said he would be on call if, if he needed to.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Can I ask city staff something about a code enforcement? I'm assuming they're the ones who surfaced this issue.
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Um, I believe the, the applicant here, we see the call violation and then just solve the code violation. They submitted for a building permit at the time when they submit a building permit was around March, 2023. And the application was incomplete. It was missing a survey. And so we never seen the location of the shed at a time, but because there was a lot of issues going on throughout the city for corner lots because of the 15 feet setback requirement for accessory structure, we decided to, so it was a city initiated change of code to accommodate most of the residents that had a shed in corner law.
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So at the time there was another, um, local resident that had an issue. So we changed the code, you know,
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the ordinance 08 2023. And I believe, uh, the applicant here never saw, never, um, proceeded with the permit application.
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They had to resubmit for a permit, but they still, the location of the shed does not meet code. And that's why now they're asking for a variance.
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My question about code enforcement is when they were first hit with the violation, how did the code enforcement officer know when it was built? How close? Like to my knowledge, code enforcement officers don't walk through property, right? So this is visible from the street. Was the code enforcement officer able to get all the information they needed to know that
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I don't know if how there is their procedure, but I know it was a complaint. So they went to the property because someone complained about it. Gotcha. ‸ Okay. Thank you.
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Can I just reiterate the oddities of all the lot sizes? They're all different. Ours is technically 53 right there. And that one doesn't do it really justice because that gets narrower in the back. of the corner.
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the grace
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variance.
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on, um, I can't see. I didn't bring them up. 21 and 20. They're. I can't see. So whatever you think. These are
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neighbors here. And I do have some other letters from other neighbors that just would be, um, if you, if I can bring them up so you guys can see them.
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just
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turn them into the book for me.
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Oh,
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I do have a question. Um, in what you were saying, do you know who filed the complaint initially?
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And when was that? When did the complaint come in?
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Yes. So the shed had been
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there all that time.
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Right.
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2020. Yes. But we
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coming into meetings here to get everything changed to five feet to where it is now. That before it
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15 feet,
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feet, which is
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Give us just
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a minute.
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Less well for the yard, but if, you know what I mean, I know right now it's the most ideal for what everything is, but because we have some trees that we would have to possibly, we have two oak trees, one fell ‸ over
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year ago in March, and the windstorm knocked it down. So we have ‸ a few, that one tree is in the way of it really, probably having been moved or else it's on the drain field also. And then there's another ‸ foliage of some sort, I don't know what kind of tree it is.
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Thank you very much. Okay, I'm sorry. Now, Mary Jo Riddle, if you'd like to come forward, please.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Riddle,
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just need to swear ‸ in before you speak, please. If you could raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
[00:31:06] Speaker 12
Yes, I do.
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Thank you, ma'am.
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Yes, the corner lot is very small and it's problematic with the way the lots have been drawn all through that whole ‸ area. And because the tree is located where it is, it's very, I don't think it's possible for a machine to come in and scoop underneath and move it.
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So they would have to pay to disassemble it, to move it, to meet the code, and
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So ‸ when they
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that beautiful picture, it's pretty much
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So
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a horrible shed. I would suggest that if they make an exception to the code or whatever, that it be well maintained. If it's not well maintained, then it would be an understanding that it would come down. Lot number 10, when we first moved here, put a fence in front of their yard. And it caused a big uproar. And so the city at the time, that was years ago, decided that as long as the fence was well maintained, they would let them have a fence in the front yard, which they have done. And if you look at lot number 10, if you can imagine the house on it, there was not a backyard for them to utilize for their pet. And that was a number of years ago, because I'm old, and that was right around when we first built the house. When they bought the house, this is just my thought.
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was either permitted or not permitted or the restrictions that the realtor could have made. But apparently they weren't aware of that.
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And what is the impact that
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it look bad within the neighborhood? Like I said, if you could make an exception like we did with the fence, it's well maintained with the understanding that if it's not well maintained, they would have to take it down. Now, the picture, I think, shows that it's a very well maintained built sturdy shed. It's not like one you buy at Home Depot and that type of thing. I think it would be a financial burden on them to have to pay to disassemble it and haul it all away. Okay? Thank you for my time.
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Yes, ma'am. Thank you. I do have another card.
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I don't take oaths. Jesus' Sermon on the Mount said don't take oaths. It says let your yes be yes and your no, no. Anything else is from the evil one. It's repeated again in the Gospels. So I will tell the truth. I affirm it. If that's sufficient for you. It's a temporary structure. You've got a lot of people here in the
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There doesn't appear to be a problem with anyone. The shed seller didn't advise that there was a problem. In fact, just the opposite. ‸ No objections.
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And any additional money required to remediate would be a financial burden. So I just thank you.
[00:35:15] Speaker 1
Thank you very much. Any more comments from the floor? All right. The chair will close the audience and I'll move on to the board. Any discussion from our board members? No.
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I want a motion.
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Caitlin, do you have anything? For staff, can you just clarify ‸ if we're approving or denying the variance versus, I think you mentioned the other word, waiver or something? Right. So this isn't a waiver. This is a
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So can you just clarify ‸ the
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difference
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between the two since we were clear about the fact that this is a variance?
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Well,
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requirements for, um, I don't have to read the code, but there's different requirements for variance and waivers.
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a variance, not a waiver.
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That's all it is. Well, there's different criteria. Essentially, there are two different types of requests.
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variance has essentially more stringent ‸ criteria that need to be met.
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All I was trying to do is make sure everyone was clear ‸ what was being requested. And it is a
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variance.
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Thank you.
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Okay. So I have a question. Let's see if I can get this out right. So staff is recommending denial of this request. Correct? Correct? Correct. Yes. Yes. Because per codes, there are
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certain criteria they have to meet. So the applicant just fell to meet the criteria. Okay.
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So the chair then needs to ask the members of the board if they want to accept staff's recommendations or deny staff recommendations.
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recommendations or do, do you understand what I'm trying to ask you without getting myself into trouble? Um,
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so if you make a motion to deny the variance request, which is consistent with the staff's recommendation and the report, um, you know, you can do that. If you are going to make a motion to approve the variance, then we would need to establish what the reasoning would be for doing so and how, you know, you believe it meets the criteria essentially.
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Okay. Okay.
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I personally would like to speak to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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were told incorrectly when they bought the shed and they did go based on that because you like to think somebody who's in the business would tell them correctly. And it is a very nice shed. Um, and it's, I can see where it would be difficult to have it moved simply because it was built in place and not dropped in. When you look at the lot and everything, it would be very difficult to move it. The neighbors obviously don't really mind that it's there. So to me, it would be, um, I understand what staff is saying per code, but in this particular instance, I would vote in favor of giving them the variance.
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I'm in agreement. You're in agreement. Yeah.
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we, uh,
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uh, to allow them to have their shed there. Um, leave it where it is. Yes.
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May I
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the caveat that they keep the area well maintained?
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That they keep the area well maintained. Yes.
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All right. And I have a second. I have a second. All right. All in favor?
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Aye.
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Motion passed as presented. You get to keep your shed, but please keep it, uh, well maintained. Okay. Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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to approve as well. Okay. Thank you.
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I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. All right. Is there anything else we need to discuss?
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Do I have a motion to adjourn?
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Motion to adjourn.
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All in favor? Aye. Thank you very much.
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