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and Monica is always on the roll.

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on the phone. Debbie, can you hear us? Yes, I'm here. Okay, thank you.

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Yes, you too. As always, thank you. If everyone could please stand and face ‸ the flag. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the

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to the republic for

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‸ which it stands,

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nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, the next thing we do is look at the agenda for this meeting. One of the issues, the items, is

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until

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‸ The one we do have was previously tabled in front of us today. We seem to be tabling a lot of things.

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‸ That was at the request, though, of

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Okay. Do we have a motion to approve the agenda?

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I make a ‸ motion. We approve the agenda as written.

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Second.

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Second.

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Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Moving on to the minutes. Copies of the minutes. I think everyone's been provided with copies. We've all probably looked at it. Some in greater detail than others. Motion to approve the minutes as submitted. Okay. Do we have a second?

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Okay. ‸ All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Carried. Next we come to the election of officers, which I believe happens every January. Or is supposed to happen to elect a chair and a vice chair. And I've been chair of this board since 2014.

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‸ It's been good. My predecessor was Bill Stevenson prior to that.

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And I'm going to open it up now. Is there anyone here that would be interested in either putting in their own name or nominating someone else? Yes.

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to continue the wonderful work.

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I second it.

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you. Thank you. We have a

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second. I was really willing to.

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I heard the ground, Michael.

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You cannot drag this out. No.

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any frivolous comment.

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I was going to say that

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And we have three well-qualified women here.

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talking about chairmen so far.

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have four.

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five. We've got five women. Five women.

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And we have five women. Yes. Should I call the question? Are there any other nominations?

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For

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chair. Okay. You've nominated me. Is there a second?

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I did. Yes, there was.

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Okay. You?

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I did. That's why I took my mask off, so you could hear me.

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Okay. All in favor of me continuing, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. The next is vice chair. My colleague here, Al Washington, has been in that position about as long as I have.

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Yeah, I think so.

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I'll make a motion that Mr. Washington is the second vice chair.

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Are there any other people that are interested?

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Are there any others? Do we have any other nominations?

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I am interested. You are interested? Okay.

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you know, he's maybe interested in stepping back. If not, if you're still interested in staying there, I'm okay with the...

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Okay.

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Are you

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absolutely.

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Absolutely. Okay. Do you wish to put your name in or to back off? I'll

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Okay. Thank you. Okay. Do we have a second on Mr. Washington?

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I'll second Mr. Washington.

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Okay. All in favor, say aye. Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? Aye. Aye.

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Aye. Okay.

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The one thing, council, I think we're always required to do is to have open votes, correct? No secret ballots. Right. That would make it difficult when you have two people, whatever.

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And everybody likes

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everything.

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everybody likes... Yes.

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That helps.

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Okay.

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I got two years left.

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Let's move on to the zoning text amendment. Thank you all for your vote of confidence. Thank you for

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serving.

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Yeah.

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I apologize. Where's Larry? Where's Larry? Hard to recognize. Okay. Larry, are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay. You're on.

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And this also controls the slide, right? Yes. Absolutely. Okay. Even though it's a PDF, it's not a PowerPoint.

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Okay. Mind me taking this off, so ‸ can you hear me now?

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Yes.

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Okay. I want to thank Dodie and the staff for putting me on the agenda. We've been trying to get this accomplished for a while, and I want to thank you for ‸ this opportunity. I want to make it clear. I

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is Joni Regan presentation. Not mine. I am not an expert in stormwater or low-impact design. She is the former stormwater manager of Cocoa Beach.

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group and like I said before I wish I had four developers behind me but maybe they'll watch this who knows well this is really to help you because it educated me and I hope it educates you a little bit some slides I will not know fully how to describe to you unfortunately there's 29 slides so we have 15 minutes for this so I'm gonna move kind of rapid on slides that I'm ‸ not sure of or or just pictures but this one here really, you know, how simple is this? we We tend to make parking lots and we put concrete curbs around where the green space is and and the water can't flow from the green space to the pavement and the pavement to the green space. So maybe, you know, Public Works could go around with a concrete saw and just cut little nicks in the curbs and do this and then any future I don't know call islands in the parking lot where they put trees and bushes, when they make them, make them have these slots so water can flow between the two. The main theme of the low-impact design is to help restore the lagoon but I think the practices that you will see here or the ideas apply to any flooded region west of the railroad tax railroad tracks.

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so So she has these pictures to show you how long the lagoon is I think it's

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know West Palm kind of and so it's a it's a large estuary which we're trying to protect. this really kind of shows the impact of stormwater flowing into the lagoon because you have the muck for the nutrients and the algae and ‸ the fish kills and just

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just more images of that so loss of habitat so this is all the impacts of us developing so I should clarify I'm not anti development I mean I live in a house that a builder built we all have you know a shelter to live in so we need builders we need developers I think my personal theme to this is let's do smart growth using low impact designs and not and other things I'm fascinated to learn that going vertical is a sustainable low impact design. Could you have higher density only using a small footprint.

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So,

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you know. so think about the pavement that we have our trucks our cars drive on them fortunately I think cars are in better shape than when I was growing up

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you know and nowadays we have really good quality cars that last 10 15 years

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the center of the road yeah.

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So even though our cars have become more oil drip free, we still need to think about all the impervious pavement that we put down. it it harms the environment not just the lagoon but like

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so here's here's impervious

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I really like this one because on this side you see 1956 all this is lagoon with just some low

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decades all this is property now that people are living on So just in, uh what is that, uh 60, 40, 50 years? Just under 50 years? So, see all the green that turns into gray? That's the point of this

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if you think about it the public roads don't really occupy or contribute to the impervious uh space as much as private does now

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facilities um

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I mean

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that's the main theme of this this I think so we need to communicate with the private property owners more so than the public works per se but

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So if you think ‸ about it, you know upstream impervious causes problems downstream.

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do have different elevations uh even at the three feet water is going to flow from three feet to zero feet. So, um

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um retention pond and ‸ you know, it does a really good job the day it's built. But now we have 30 and 40 year old retention ponds and they they tend to end up being not maintained or or managed and they just become algae ponds. I know our city has cleaned some up um

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happier birds and I heard you know they did find a 10-foot alligator in the process or right after they cleaned it out but uh what what city in Florida doesn't have alligators um so just the way we do development can make a big difference I think what we're talking about here is you need to let the water percolate as close to where it falls. So when when we authorize and encourage developers to come into

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and build, be it commercial or private residents I think we need to encourage them to and I think we do to some degree

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have enough green I mean, thanks to some of the members that are very passionate about trees. that that's important uh trees shrubs and and the grass um the I might insert here that I'm not you know St. Augustine grass looks like carpet it looks good but it's high maintenance it needs a lot of water and it needs a lot of fertilizing um I know ‸ the bahia

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yeah what you see on the side of the roads there's no sprinkler systems there's no fertilizing going on and it grows so I would like to ask developers to switch whatever they're doing, private residents or commercial, they switch to Bahia because it's drought tolerant. So we do get dry spells in Florida. But, and, and, so, that's my pitch on on changing from St. Augustine to bahia so here's a good good slide I mean it shows how we can incorporate into our sidewalks and uh for drainage and in our urban environment um I do know for a fact that

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Because over

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time,

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sand, because we have a lot of sand in Florida, it's going to get in all those nooks and crannies. And it no longer will be pervious. So what's the solution? You

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So, if we do install pervious, porous cement, we need to include, like once a year, public works, or, you know, go out and vacuum it. that So there is a maintenance side to pervious. They might be making better pervious cement now. so I might have to take that back

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when ‸ somebody comes in and says hey we could do it this way so um green roofs and green walls I don't think there's been a lot of discussion about that. um It's it's it's way more important in big urban cities like Chicago, you know, uh where they in well in tampa they have the heat island effect I don't know if you've heard of this But you have so much pavement, so many buildings, so much concrete, that all the sun that's shining on it, it absorbs it. But, see, with the trees and the grass, it's a cooling effect on the city. So, actually, having too much pavement, too much concrete can actually change your weather patterns locally. Not many people think about things like this.

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and rainwater harvesting so why we're gonna If we follow some low impact design, we're going to reduce

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which means less nutrients and pollutants. And then the intensity of the storm fallout, meaning the amount of water. If we can keep the water where it falls and it percolates, it actually recharges the local aquifer. Does anybody think of that when they think about developing, putting pavement down? Nourish the soil. Here's something

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a master gardener in Florida. and And she recommended that we spray seaweed, liquid seaweed, on our lawn, the bushes. We tend to keep it off any ‸ vegetables that we have growing in

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backyard. But the idea is you are enhancing the soil to be as healthy as it can be. And then you won't need to put fertilizer like nitrogen and phosphate for for your plants. Meaning, we've been fertilizing for the plants, not the soil. It should be the other way around. We should be encouraging, helping our soil to be as healthy as it can. Then you're gonna have healthy plants. And the part of that is the microbes. People don't even think about how many microbes are on this planet. They outnumber us. They're small, but they outnumber us. And they do a job for us that we can't replicate with engineering. So, keep that in mind. salt

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they're taking water so fast out of the ground, the ground is sinking. And in South Miami, they're having, they're taking water out of the aquifer so much down by Miami, that salt water is coming in, not on top of the soil, but through to the soil.

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To fill the void.

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to think about things like that. Main theme, create more green spaces. um How do we do this?

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encourage plant tree, uh you know, tree canopy. And it doesn't have to be trees. ‸ can be bushes, grass. um uh

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harvest the rain. That'll capture the first inch of the rainfall. And

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got half of that water to actually use when we want to water plants or flush toilets, maybe. um

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Right? So that's part of it. We gotta, so, more trees is good. This is an interesting slide. So when you have an undeveloped site, typically it's green regardless

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trees, bushes, or grass, but over the years we've allowed developers

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And so that is hurting us over time. So we need to think about when we we say yes to a developer, how much vegetation that's natural gets to stay, not we're going to plant stuff. I think there's a difference in my mind, but maybe not. So here's just some examples of rain gardens, tree canopy, and urban environments. I mean, some of this looks familiar. I mean, it could be Cocoa, you know, then you got your pervious pavements. Well,

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As long as you don't fill in the cracks with water, right? The other interesting thing is, let's go up and and elevate the houses up a little bit so when it does flood, it doesn't come into your house. That's another option. And the other option ‸ I read, down in Miami,

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They're thinking, well, let's just make it a houseboat, but it could sit on the ground when there's no water. So you don't lose your house

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I'm just being creative now. Cisterns. I mean, my wife and I have 350 gallons of of storage of rain water We have a metal roof. And so that water is clean. It's clear. I haven't had it tested yet. I haven't drank in it yet, but it looks clear enough to drink. I'm telling you. um And we use that water to water our gardens, the bushes. So the idea is that when it's not raining, we let it slowly trickle out and over a day or two, then it's empty. So then when storm comes, we have empty storage containers and,

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or yeah so.

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city has one out at our amphitheater, a large storage. And then these is images of green roof, green walls. uh interesting fact about, uh people who stay in hospitals and they look out the window instead of seeing a gray roof with a bunch of air conditers on it.

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Someone did a study and then, you know, and and I've seen studies about crime is less when you have green spaces, you know, people walk outside when there's green spaces, healthier all around. So, kind of, you know, think about all these things, tree wells. uh My wife and I have gone to several cities around the state and we're seeing tree wells more often, rain gardens. um Anytime they have to do work on the city streets,

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this

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is the time, that is the time to make the changes into these more green spaces and water management using natural for storm water They call it streets escape. So, how do we get things from ‸ there to here, you know? So,

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look at your comprehensive plan, land development codes. Do they include low impact design or some kind of method to get us there? So, that's something that the

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look at these documents and let everybody know how you feel.

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low impact design. uh this is I think this is a report, but the MRC, I'm sure you've all heard of Marine Resource Council and Dr. Lisa Soto has presented to the council before. um But, the point is, we're not alone. There's people and agencies that want to see our community be more green and less harmful to the lagoon and

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little differently. So, they have partners. These are all the people that are partnering together to help save the lagoon. um So, we're not alone. There's a lot of people who want it, a lot of groups. And, this one's really cool. You know, we all know Albert Einstein, famous scientist. The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking.

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way ‸ it's not working, you got to try something else. um So, that's the last slide. Thank you for your attention.

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oh the liquid

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seaweed. It comes in a gallon jug. You can buy it at Home Depot, I think, at definitely

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concentrated. So you go to Ace Hardware ‸ you buy this the one quart spray for your hose and you can adjust. I do tape two tablespoons per gallon and you have the nozzle has three different settings. So you can do a stream or wide spray pattern and do it uh just before sunset

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beginning of the day, the sun comes out, you know, it's too much for everything. Spray on the leaves, the ground,

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Well, there's vegetables. Citrus, you don't eat the skin normally for citrus. So that's not a problem. But if it's tomatoes, if we're vegetables that you're going to rinse, but you don't peel them,

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Yeah, Larry, one thing you didn't mention was the impact of the space program. In 1950,

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it's closer to 600 000 And it's very difficult to manage growth. In the 1960s, Brevard County was the fastest growing county in the entire United States.

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that was then. This is now. Yeah. We're a little smarter now.

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No, I agree. I agree. But

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you're you're right. And well in Texas,

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of their land is paved. And they've got 50 inches of rain and everybody flooded. And it was basically because the the local government let building just go on you know managed

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difficult.

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who is responsible for cleaning that up? And and if the birds

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on the dead fish, do they carry disease?

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No. the The fish don't have disease. They die of lack of oxygen.

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Okay. ‸ Because

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the the decaying algae. So

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It's got all the nutrients in the water. It's happy, but then eventually it dies and it goes down and as it's decaying, turning into muck, it's it's microbes are consuming all the oxygen in the water. So the fish suffocate. So they're dying of lack of oxygen. and If the birds ate them, as soon as they die, it's fresh food. But it yeah, I would think birds, once the fish gets really smelly, they themselves will stay away from it.

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um I was going to say, where I live, there's a I live on [address] ‸ and several years ago it was becoming so filled with muck

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to require that we come in and de-muck, which was going to cost a million dollars. Well, people over 55 don't have a million dollars to spread out however many years or whatever. um so

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So what they did was, I think in the big lake we've put in something like 15 aerators.

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And and other aerators in our other little lake that's kind of an L-shaped drainage area. um And and the big lake, they both actually feed

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So it's still, it you know, it's all connected somehow or another.

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I haven't actually looked at it. We can actually see about two feet down in the water just after a few years. um We had a little bit of a fish kill late last summer, but thank goodness it didn't get out of hand because it really does smell like he said. But it's it's a start. Yeah.

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hitting them to charge up batteries to run pumps to to aerate. The other is just ‸ have a fountain and a water pump. As soon as you send water up into the air and have ‸ cascade

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You know, as far as if we want to stay efficient and low ‸ cost, low maintenance. So the city, you know, doesn't incur another line item in their budget, but, um yeah, aeration. uh

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a lot of these private docks. Why not have, I work at Kennedy space center.

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to mind is have an oxygen sensor at the end of their dock in the water, solar powered, and the aeration only comes on when locally the oxygen levels drop. And at least the fish could go. I mean, they're going to sense where the oxygen is. If they're in a region where it's very low in oxygen, they're going to find it. and Maybe they'll just hang out at the dock until things get better. And

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know it'll be obviously an issue because when you're talking about navigation, you know, you can't put aeration out there, but your idea of trying to get it on the end of some of the private docks or along the shoreline or something, I don't know how efficient it is the ‸ closer it gets to shore. but Well,

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I'm thinking just a bunch of small

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powered. and We just need the buying from people who have docks. i I think most people who live on the water would say yes. Like I said,

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um I'm glad that I got to share Joni's presentation. um I hope you got something out of it. Any other questions? Yeah.

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Everything you say is great, but how are you going to get that into this civil engineering classes or schools? That's where it needs to start. Well, because if if a designer come here or ‸ developer come here and he already got his design and it's not in there, is the city going to just say, ‸ hey, uh go back to the drawing board? Because basically, you're probably the engineers don't even know what you were talking about

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‸ our current codes now that we go by for new construction have already been changed to include some of the changes that's being discussed today. We learned from our mistakes from 40 years ago, just like it was explained here, and

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signs.

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And it's just like uh what uh the chairman had mentioned. That was a big building boom, and that was before we learned any of this. Right. Understood. And so now all the projects that go, and

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before the city now, there's certain code requirements which include the trees and saving them, and there's other code requirements that are needing to be followed. Can we go even more than that? We probably could. Well,

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did 40, 50 years ago.

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that the college and universities, I i think they they are um including this type of design, but it takes time for it to get into the uh commercial and building industry. I

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think a prime example is what we approved at our special meeting for the

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much that's going to be remaining natural land. I forgot how many acres of it. you know and

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because we didn't want that it to go in and be a paved parking lot

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you

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know to for

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So that's a good example of planning and I think future future planning for something like that.

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How many of you get to go across the bridge 528 and go north across the canal bridge and look to the right? Do you see ‸ There's something

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going in there right now.

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the parking spaces is grass. Maybe ‸ have pavement where you drive to get to the parking space but all the parking spaces are grass. So that see that's that's a low impact design. I'm glad when I drive to work I see that I'm like well at least they're thinking ahead Al. You know they still accomplished a parking lot for for cruise ships when that returns. You know

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‸ they

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did that at the stadium when

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but most of it's grass. I don't know what it is now with all the new fields but. Yeah.

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It's a sink. It sequesters CO2. Pavement doesn't sequester CO2 but large fields of grass do. So there's a lot of upsides to it. Storm water management. Reducing the CO2 in the atmosphere. Yes you have to mow it. But pavement. You get to maintain it. Right. You got to do something with it every 10 years. Or

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it. Or. So.

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And. And. Try to. Move towards. The. The low impact. Design.

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You mentioned. uh Building up is good. Is. Does that mean that high rise condos are more environmentally friendly than single family housing developments? ‸ Yes.

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Yeah.

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‸ more people

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condo. And you have one acre. And your condo is.

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you have this this tiny sliver of green that's you know that's debatable Meaning. The footprint of the building on the property. Versus.

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or the the council, they were talking about charging you know uh fees for how much pavement you have versus how much green you have.

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plan. So i'm going to review that. So

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I'll leave with this. So if if, let's say for round numbers, the square miles of Cocoa is 100 square miles. And if

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is gray and we keep

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demand or regulate them managing the storm water what do you think is going to happen? We

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paved. You know, so we had to think in terms of growth is good, but let's look at the big picture. How much can the city limits allow? And

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You know, these are the things I want the city to think about going forward. So thank you for your time.

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I ask a question? Mike?

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I'm just curious, um ‸ is there

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plan in, a developer brings a plan in, where you're kind of looking at these things now? I would assume that there must be something, right? Yes. Okay.

[00:38:59] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

um Yes, there is. So um there's things in the in the zoning code, in our comprehensive plan, we have requirements that all address these these items. Okay. All right.

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um Is there a member of our board that is on the sustainability group? Maybe you guys would know.

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um No? Not

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board, no.

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was just curious if there was a member. i I didn't know. um As far as the tree canopy board, isn't there a a tree canopy group,

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that meets? No. Like a subgroup

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our meetings before.

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that it was with the DPW or something like that because I really think that that would be important as long as we have the responsibility that we have input with that. um The other thing is the sustainability committee, um ‸ are they ever consulted at all when it comes to any of these plans?

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They've put together a whole sustainability action plan uh ‸ the council adopted last fall. And it has a whole lot of a whole lot of uh great information and and uh you know kind of guidance um

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‸ okay

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as long as it's being ‸ incorporated

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in very other plans within the city that become um like the driving action part. Okay. to

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Okay. Thank you.

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Okay. Okay.

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um The next item is old business. um So uh first item is um a project called Cirrus uh mixed use PUD. um We had tabled

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that at

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the last meeting um to this meeting and to preserve the advertising, we're requesting that you table it once again to February 3rd.

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yeah yeah yeah so the applicant has requested uh that ‸ it be

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to that meeting so that it can go forward at that meeting

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those are the luxury apartments right

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but it's a different

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one than the other one on 524.

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yeah yes

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they're all we have quite a few of them now all of

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sudden. A

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wealth of apartments uh coming forward. So okay we need a a motion if you're. We

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approve that when we approve the agenda.

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motion was to approve the agenda as written.

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Yeah. Which is

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meeting.

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make a motion that we table it until the next meeting. Yeah, February

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3rd.

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I second.

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Would you all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. Okay. uh

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The next item is also under old business and this is a zoning text amendment uh related to the RU 210 district regulations. And. and This is the ru 210 district was created um and really um should apply to uh just the geographic area that's

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um is referenced under a couple of our other zoning districts uh when it comes to single family or low um density multi-family So like two and three units um in ru 215 and ru 225 um So we're what we need to do is remove the the reference when somebody comes in and says, I have a parcel that's zoned ru 215 multi-family but I want to do single family. And

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regulations. um Because we need to make 210 stand alone for the conservation, I mean, excuse me, the consent decree area that's

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um We need to put specific design um just designations and and um regulations of single family and the low density of multi-family um Specific to

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215 and

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okay i have a question yes just for clarification yes where's

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i'm sorry

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King Street's the north, Rosa Jones is the south, Florida is

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what I thought you were talking about, but I just thought for clarification we needed to say that.

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Right.

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Yes. um so what we're proposing um in the ordinance ‸ would define single family and this low density multi-family in each of those districts, so you don't go back to another district, you know, to to get uh the bulk regulations that applies to that.

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I understand, um

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because of the uh consent decree um um legal agreement that was created. And if I understand correctly, are you saying that because it's ru 210 now, it's causing issues that since it's not clear in the ru 210 for lot size compared to what you're allowed to build, which is the reason you're wanting or needing to go to 215 or 225? um

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I'm

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getting...

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It's more the reverse. So if you're developing... um

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Use a lot maybe as an example. A 50 foot wide lot by 100 foot deep. Right. So right now, please explain as that as an example that could be satisfied since you said it's in the reverse to go to 215, 225. How about that?

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um So in the heart of Koku, because of it's set near the village,

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a historic standard. A lot of the old

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all have these recorded lots at that size. um Property that's near the village is it's a walkable ‸ distance. So I think ‸ the the... I hate to say the intent, but I'm gonna i'm gonna go with that for now. um

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for most of that area. And secondly, this the village offers amenities. It offers open space. The opportunity to walk. There's parks there. um That provide that recreation opportunity for people in these smaller lots. If you're living in a standard subdivision size where you have a 75 by 100, so lot size, you have a backyard. And it's that's really kind of the area where you're going to get most of your outdoor recreation is playing in

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sort of more urban lots where they're narrow like this, you're more dependent on having public space and for recreation. um So that's part of of the reasoning where we're offering in RU215 the opportunity if you want to build single family. um You can either go with ‸ RU17, and have but you have to provide a bigger lot

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Or you can go with the narrower lot size, but you've got to provide a certain amount of public space that's communal to all of those those lots. So,

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um

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like, um a lot of our bigger subdivisions that are, um usually they come in as a as a plan unit development, and we say, okay, you can you can put in

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single family home lots, but you've got to provide a certain amount of recreation space, right? That's kind of a more ‸ modern standard now. um and And they're allowed to have narrower lots because they provide a clubhouse and a communal pool and, you know, those kind of amenities. And it's a similar model. We're saying for infill, where you've got smaller lot sizes, or you've got the

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you have, you as a developer or as a homeowner, um how about that option, if you're going to um provide uh ‸ single family or low density, you can you can kind of go either way.

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Okay. So, what I'm hearing is

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by changing the zoning to this, you could build more on the

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‸ Is

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that what we're saying? That's... Because, you know, what what if,

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‸ These are single family lots. And uh what if they have kids? they got

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backyard. I mean, that's the only thing that I'm having trouble understanding because

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finish my so I can understand better?

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Well, it's not that I don't understand it. It's because I'm leaning more that I don't agree with not

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Thank you.

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So,

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you're allowing bigger, larger construction and avoiding having the requirements of setbacks for a rear property

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That's the

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way I understand it.

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Not exactly.

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Okay, well, I'm going to listen

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Okay.

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So

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I think it um you're saying that this action is not going

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they are.

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would not change

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area. However, if, say, um Alec owned the Mike Blake subdivision across the railroad tracks it's a Big Lot over there, and he wants to build single family homes, he and

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he could then say, well, I want to build those single family homes, but to the

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standard, right? And so basically all you're doing is taking the

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standard out of the options for ru 215 and

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which do

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so that when developers come in and build these smaller homes, they also have to provide amenities and

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in zoning here. all right my lot's 75 by 150. okay and i got 50 more feet lengthwise Okay. But then over here, because this all falls into the same thing,

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What happens when there's an easement across the back? ‸ You're calling for a 25 foot setback in the front, which you really only need a 20, which gives you more room in the backyard. ‸ Then you've got 10 to 8 feet, well,

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for a single family home. You could knock that down to a

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setback from the property line, which would be 10 feet between homes. And then

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If there's a 20 foot easement running back there, you've got a house setting right on almost on that easement line.

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Well, those setbacks are the setbacks that are in the single family zoning district now,

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and on a corner lot, you've only got the setback for 15 feet. ‸ That's hard to see around when they get bushes and trees planted there

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and then smaller on the side. You don't really need 25 feet in the front. You could get by with a 20 foot setback in front.

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There's

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a few houses there already that are set up that way. Yeah. That are built that way.

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I mean, that's...

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There's a few that's

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lot. Yeah, it is.

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And then... It's a car like basically. yeah

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or the 8 foot you could drop that to

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which would give them more side setbacks. But I think 15 for a corner lot is too small, too. But that's just my opinion. So... But I think the rear setback should be 20 feet. Because I know

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house. Because I've got a main gas line that goes right through it. I

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mean... You definitely need an easement there, yes. Yeah.

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Well, most lots have easements. Whether it be

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Most of them is

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easements, so

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Yeah.

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So that would be something you would have to look at.

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And

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his property and he's out there on 524... and he wants to go to 215. i mean theoretically he could come and act request a zoning change and get it

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Correct. And

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coverage. Right. Basically.

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But you're right. They shouldn't have to send their kids downtown to play. Well... I mean, I get where he was going with that.

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‸ Well, I'm glad I didn't confuse everybody ‸ that bad.

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No, you didn't. oh well, that's good. okay But

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I just think that's something that should be looked at.

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okay

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do agree with Susan on that. the Maybe the front setback could be 20 and add the other five to the rear.

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Well, remember that it isn't just the downtown area.

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um

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And somebody

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could come in and ask for it anywhere. Right.

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So,

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um you know, we want to have standardized... um development regulations. um Right.

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And I understand it's all over the city. Yeah. So I agree with what she's saying. If you have a 10 foot easement in the rear and your rear setback is only 15, you can't. You're gonna ‸ have a house

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sitting right on top of that

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um

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I don't know. Yeah, it's, I don't know. The rear, when, when a lot of our earlier subdivisions were created, there was a requirement for an easement for utilities running across the back.

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Well, a lot of times

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drainage easements.

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everybody's Yeah, yeah, that's well, there's definitely drainage easements on the sides. Some of it's still in the back for drainage, but the the back utility easements, have gone away. um and they've moved to the front now. So now they want a bigger front, um easement for utilities. um it's usually about 10 feet now. Now, are they going to

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have sidewalks?

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um most, yeah, every place is required to have a size. Okay. So your

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easement's going to be in that area between the sidewalk and ‸ street. That's where your utility easement's going to be. It's not going to be in their front yard.

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Well, it is in, um most of our new subdivisions that is, is the sidewalk is part of the public right-of-way

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Yes, but what I'm saying is you still don't need that 25 foot setback for that house because their front property lines on the back of that sidewalk. Right. It's not

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‸ Yeah.

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Including

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a lot, a lot of the drainage they're having swales on both sides and the rear now.

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‸ Yeah. Yeah. Those are the five foot drainage easements real, real common. Yeah.

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For onsite retention. It is mandatory. ‸ Yes. So.

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i'm just raising a red flag there. I'm sorry. Are you

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seeking a change or amendment of any kind to the ‸ proposal? Yeah.

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I think it should be looked at before we approve it. Okay. okay

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Yeah.

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Yeah, 215 and 225.

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that this is going to apply. There's the individual property owner who has a lot, right? um And perhaps they have the smaller lot size. If they have a prop that smaller lot size, it's an older ‸ lot, it's going to be located kind of near the village area for the most part, or in, um

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um

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we have some of those through the Diamond Square area, and up uh further north, but uh along kind of in

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All of that. So, the single family home can still be built regardless of these changes. Because their grandfather ‸ On a lot that's a lot of record. You can still, you can build it as long as you can meet the building setbacks. You can build uh the house. What we're looking at is there's that scenario, some one individual um property. Maybe they want to build a duplex or ‸ triplex, right? um And then there's this scenario of, um like, if you remember back, um this is about two, three years, ago three years probably, um where there was a property um on Clear Lake, ‸ large, it used to be an old grove, and it was zoned ru 215 And we had a builder came in and built a subdivision. And built, its single family homes they were building, right? But to the existing code said they could build to the ru 210 standards. So, they put the narrow lots in.

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But

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they didn't provide any amenities. So, we have this scenario where you have these near lots, and no outside.

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recreation type space or amenities. um And so, that was it that's a

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um And it's why when they built, um or came back, and they didn't actually build yet, but came back for approval for the property across the street, um that we wound up bringing you a development agreement, request saying, we we need to be able to provide, or require some, um some amenity space of the developer, in exchange for these narrower lots.

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the future, yeah,

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that's our standard ‸ standard size

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but

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They have more than enough green space.

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well Right, that's the that's the intent. is uh

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No, I'm saying, even with the skinnier lots, they're still going to have plenty of green space.

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Well, if they're building, if

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standard, ‸ then would they be allowed to do a smaller lot? If they, if if we

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pass the this

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version,

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yes, they can they can do the smaller lot as long as they provide some kind of... Outside amenities. Yeah, outside. ‸ yeah. Playground. But

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if it's located

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Village, they don't have to provide the outside amenities.

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No, not that. No. um

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Village has the outside space that you were talking to. about

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i I was just saying that that was probably part of, and it's guesswork on my part, why there was no requirement for outside um amenity space. In those older areas, they they were platted and

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not designed as a subdivision. um I mean, they say subdivision on the plaque,

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you know a lot of things that we take for granted now so um or standards that

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reason that this came up that needed attention that you could give us some background on?

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that I mentioned earlier. That was Lakeside Palms West, where, um you know, attorney advice was to... um We need to... We as the city uh need

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decree, um that standard was intended to apply to that geographic area, the heart of Cocoa.

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Right.

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And in order to support that and respect that and preserve that

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as the consent decree is

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not apply it elsewhere. um

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um that are specific to those those districts and not keep falling back on this uh the other. So

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if you have somebody that comes with an old platted

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that's 210, are you going to resign it

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that's in

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done years ago. Well, so was a lot that the

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very... Consent decree.

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It was a very... um Specific

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area. Right. And it

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was... It involved a lot of legalities because uh basically there was people uh trying to take over the properties and change it to commercial.

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that's okay.

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And they put us wanted to put a stop to it because they were getting rid... They were wanting to get rid of a lot of the residential lots there. And frankly, uh I'm glad that we have that preserved because it's working to have residential there. And I'm glad that it didn't go to commercial. But they had to go to a very bad lawsuit in order to stop what these group of people were doing. Gotcha. Am I right on the history about that? Anybody?

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The consent decree ‸ is

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what I'm talking about. Yes.

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is is that now we have residential... in Additional residential in the downtown area. And it turns out that the rents in that area are excellent for affordable rents for people that are working in the village. Or it's basically low income rent, affordable rent for retirees and young people that work in the village. We have that workforce there. There's one property that just sold. It's 22 units. And they're in the process of completely renovating it. And they're and that property is in addition

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they were to buy the 22 unit property, they also had to buy the other ‸ 12 unit property. And because that was done as a package deal, now

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30 some odd units that are in the process of being renovated in addition to the 18 that I have.

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And uh

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So in addition to ‸ that area, uh there's another bigger project that's ironic. It's my family's property from years ago. It's the Dixie Motel. It used to be

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motel. They have a few motel rooms. yeah But they've also all changed that. And ironically, it's the same group. This one group came in with a

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properties. yeah So it's affordable uh rentals there

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was part of watching that being built. So there's a big advantage of what we have now that's available. The only other place that has a reasonable affordable rentals for the workforce, labor force,

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uh There's some beautiful small little lots with original homes and all that. And there's a small apartment buildings throughout. And they're also in the same category

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the ones I identified. okay So that's the history and that's where we're at with it right now.

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We have two members of the public here. Do either of you have any input to make or any discussion uh questions? No? Okay. Back to the board. ‸ sort of lost the bubble of this. I understand what you're doing. But ‸ you want to look at this further? like Or act on it now? What's your preference? how like do you have a Well,

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Susan, yes she's been doing this for 17 years, and even though I've known her for just ‸ Shut down now. but anyway You've

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known her

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all the time. yeah yeah ‸ She still talks but She had a legitimate point I'm not flirting. No. But

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anyway,

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um

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that our current construction does require retention areas. We got easement questions. um I tend to agree with her that we could reduce the side setbacks of to five feet, which when the houses are built, you actually have them

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foot separation. That's happening off of

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‸ All

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right. They're built that way. ‸ okay um But I'm thinking of kids. yeah

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I don't want to send them away from your house to go find a yard to play in. That's what I'm saying. If you reduce the front setback to 20 feet, and you make the rear setback, where you

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going to be added to that. ‸ So you would have a bigger backyard. And

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it

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depends on where the builder there's too

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many issues, I think, that we need to fine-tune like what you brought up. yeah Will

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those? I'm

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sorry. Yes, ma'am. okay

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So you said that the developer is intending on coming back to develop that particular property that you're trying to make the code right before that happens.

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‸ Can

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you, do you have an idea of when that developer will be submitting? Will it be within the next month or two? Do you have time to look at this and bring it back before the submittal?

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No, that, that, that all happened like two years ago, a year ago.

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um

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um ‸ we, you, you had the subdivision. It has now a couple of lots. They're dedicated to, uh you know, amenities, recreations on the site. um so there's a playground there now and those kind of things, um as a part of the development agreement that, that the board also saw. So. That kind of was resolved essentially in, in that

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not affect any site plans that may be submitted

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in the pipeline that, that this will immediately.

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Okay.

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Thank you. Can I ask

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another question? Yes. Chairman? um I hope because of this uh question of the backyards being reduced, are we're not getting into a legal slippery slope in the consent decree area that might be taken the wrong way

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This doesn't affect the consent decree at all.

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Okay.

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sites outside of there. Okay.

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to those areas. So

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why why were we identifying the consent decree area when we're going over this then?

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She was using ‸ as an example for me.

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oh okay.

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Because that's ‸ the district where

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we're removing this option from.

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Yeah. I'd like to make a motion that we table this till we get more information uh on some of the subjects that we brought up today. I don't know if anybody else feels that way or not.

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Okay. We have a motion to table. Do we have a second? I

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second

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it. Okay. I'm

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sorry.

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Motion ‸ second. Any further discussion? Yeah.

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Can I make a comment? ‸ If we table it that way, the advertising is not preserved for this. So we would have to re-advertise. So I don't know if Dodie could, um you know, if that's if that's the will of the uh board, recommend a date. Right. To bring it back

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um

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um

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did

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you bring it back I can add that to the

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motion, I guess.

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Well, I'm asking if there's a date that

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that

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staff might be able to bring back more information so that we preserve the advertising for

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Whatever

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makes it easier, yes. ‸ Whatever you suggest, Mrs. Attorney. so

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Maybe, actually. um Let me let me just ask this. um

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I have no questions. No. I'm seeing. For

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the most part. Okay. ‸ So if. So let them I can meet with. i What I could do then is meet with each of you and in between now and the third. And we can talk about. what your condition you know um concerns

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minor changes

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to 20.

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yeah

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So it'd be 20 in the front, 20 in the back.

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20 in the front. 20 in the back.

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you would be

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making...

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20 in the back it's increases it. So why would you increase the setback?

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So your kids aren't playing in the front yard by the road. basically

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and

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the back like ‸ That's another

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reason. Yeah. That's another ‸ Well, ‸ And then there's the retention areas. Yeah. well

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usually... Well, I don't know how your code is, but retention areas, you can fill a desk

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individual lot, typically have a retention pond. um You know, and in

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subdivision, you do

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a a retention pond, you know, communal to the

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the location. Right. So that that really isn't an issue. um

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And the fact that these are minimum standards, it may not change anything from development.

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‸ Well, i'm I'm thinking in terms of consistency with the rest of the city. ‸ Because you're setting a different standard.

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[01:17:27] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

how that plays with our other... Yeah. um And

[01:17:31] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

then look at the uh corner lot setbacks. Okay. If you're good, please. Okay.

[01:17:38] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice

‸ we should... uh we got a motion that's alive. We need to fail it, right?

[01:17:43] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized

Oh, it's been seconded. Yeah, it was seconded by Susan.

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[01:17:46] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized

Can you? Yeah, we have a motion,

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[01:17:49] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized

Can we withdraw the motion,

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[01:17:52] Speaker 10 · Machine re-recognized

Well, only the maker of the motion can withdraw it.

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[01:17:55] Speaker 3 · Machine re-recognized

I can't hear you.

[01:17:56] Speaker 10 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized

Only the maker of the motion can withdraw it. I

[01:17:59] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized

so withdraw.

[01:18:00] Speaker 10 · Unclear audio

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[01:18:02] Speaker 1 · Machine re-recognized

Okay. All in favor withdrawing

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a

[01:18:12] Attribution uncertain

motion

[01:18:12] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

to table it to March 3rd, which would be the next regular meeting, that would give us a little more time. um And I have a chance to meet with with you guys, um you know, independently. and then

[01:18:23] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice

Well, I'd like to hear from the other board members.

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[01:18:27] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

If it's only her and I that

[01:18:29] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized

had

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[01:18:30] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice

these questions brought

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[01:18:36] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

really don't want you to have to do any more work. Right. I mean,

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[01:18:43] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

not. We might be out in left field, you know. I mean, it's all about folks, guys. I ‸ mean, they've heard us, but I

[01:18:52] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

haven't heard from anybody else.

[01:18:53] Speaker 3

I don't know if we're on the wrong track or not.

[01:18:56] Speaker 4

Now,

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gonna

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[01:19:03] Speaker 5

criminal um

[01:19:05] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

and the two of you, would you leave with them

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[01:19:16] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice

team

[01:19:16] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Well, it's like Alex said, if nobody, if everybody wants to keep it like that, we're kind of out in left field.

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[01:19:28] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice

the same way, then maybe it's a good idea. But I don't want it to be where

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[01:19:33] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

has to just put up with either one of us right to try to resolve things. i I really need to know what the board

[01:19:40] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

‸ should do the motion again and then vote,

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um you know projects and you guys want to be heard, I have no issue

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[01:19:54] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

How about you? Right. I'm in agreement with the recommendations that you guys were talking about

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[01:20:07] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

about. Right. Unintended consequences of changing those setbacks and it uh creating problems with other districts. So that's where your work has to come up. Right. Okay. I'm in agreement with y'all's changes.

[01:20:24] Speaker 12

Well, she you have to research it to find out what it does with the other zones, right,

[01:20:29] Speaker 12 · Unclear audio

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[01:20:29] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Right. Yeah. i I would like some time to

[01:20:32] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices · Machine re-recognized

look at

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[01:20:33] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

that. So your proposal was 20 in the front, 20 in the

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[01:20:39] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

and what about the side corner oh i

[01:20:42] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

would say 20 right instead of 25.

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[01:20:46] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

right i'm sorry i got it backwards

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[01:20:55] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Okay. Okay. let me Let me look at that and if you'll, somebody will make a motion. Well, you want

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[01:21:04] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

today we need a

[01:21:05] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

motion.

[01:21:05] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

We need a motion, but

[01:21:06] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized

ask

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[01:21:07] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

the motion. yeah yeah

[01:21:08] Speaker 3

yeah

[01:21:08] Speaker 1

I'll

[01:21:08] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

make a motion that we

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[01:21:16] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

okay the side

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[01:21:25] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice

those rare items where

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[01:21:28] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice

That's what is causing the issue. Okay. We have ‸ All in favor of the motion the table, say aye.

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[01:21:36] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

If you can include maps or overlays, that's that

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[01:21:41] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice

I'm a visual, me too. either and Without the maps, I'm kind of lost. Thank you, sir.

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[01:21:59] Speaker 1

workshop?

[01:22:00] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

yes Yes. um I think most of us didn't have an issue this time. ‸ It was just a glitch last time. Yeah.

[01:22:10] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

oh Everybody

[01:22:11] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

got

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[01:22:15] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

worked ‸ it.

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Well, that's what we want to

[01:22:28] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

do you have to

[01:22:33] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

hit the open, yes. ‸ You did that? uh ‸ Well, you might have to double click it because that's what happens with my computer. At least

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[01:22:45] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

‸ Well, I don't know, but I thought

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[01:22:47] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

you lifting your left leg? I had to

[01:22:49] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

come down here

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[01:22:51] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

right When you hit it.

[01:22:52] Speaker 3

She was making me lose weight because she's coming down.

[01:22:56] No voice detected

there's there's ‸ so

[01:23:08] Attribution uncertain

you

[01:23:16] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

can go to, if for any time you don't receive your agenda, you know, uh or you can't open it from the link you got from us, um it's also on the webpage. So you go to your government, excuse me, at the top, and go down to agendas. click on that. And then down here it says the agendas are also available online. Click on that little line. And it'll say, you know, you're now leaving. So hit proceed to site. And

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[01:23:53] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

so you want to go to the calendar.

[01:23:55] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Well, I go to the little button where it says city counts so And then there's the planning zoning that when I click.

[01:24:02] Speaker 5

Okay.

[01:24:03] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Is that right or wrong? There's

[01:24:05] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

no right or

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[01:24:10] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

get to it. Yeah, there's a couple of ways to get there. so But

[01:24:13] Speaker 11

by calendar, it'll show you everything.

[01:24:15] Speaker 5

‸ Calendar shows you all all meetings. So um

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[01:24:28] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

here. And click them up. And at the bottom left, yeah you see it says agenda. So click on a little arrow and open, or you can double click on it. Right. And it'll open up.

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[01:24:43] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

but I refer to it as the short agenda.

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[01:24:48] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

is the the agenda without all of them supporting stuff. Right. So

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[01:24:56] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

So you can click on that. The number, the 2191, that is the actual staff report. Okay.

[01:25:04] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

That's the what? Staff ‸ That's the staff

[01:25:06] Speaker 5

report. ‸ So when you click on it, you get... No

[01:25:11] Speaker 12

records ‸ Well,

[01:25:12] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

that's not helpful because we didn't have

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[01:25:25] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Yeah. That's what I

[01:25:26] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

did.

[01:25:26] Speaker 5

Yeah. So down here under

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business, this ordinance we were thinking about.

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[01:25:43] Speaker 4

Well,

[01:25:43] Speaker 12 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

yeah, yeah but I clicked on the other part.

[01:25:46] Speaker 7

well Yeah, what's under the reports? if you click on the other

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[01:25:53] Speaker 7

reports tab.

[01:25:54] Attribution uncertain

uh

[01:25:54] Speaker 7

oh

[01:25:55] Speaker 5

Yes. Mine comes up directly under reports when I do it from my desk, so... ah Okay. So legislation text means it's the document. The details part is just the... It's just the meeting snapshot, really, of that item. So you really don't need that one. So legislation text is

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[01:26:36] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

But it's only the staff reports not the supporting documents. And you know some of our projects have a lot of

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[01:26:43] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

So those are available independently. The only negative I guess really with this process is that for this format. ‸ Is it doesn't give it to you in one PDF. You have to open up the links ‸ to get stuff.

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[01:27:17] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

So you would then have to open that up and print it or read it or you know to understand the items involved. um And ‸ same for for everything else that might be there. you know We have multiple items

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[01:27:54] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

Yeah. Yeah. But just the ordinance. Not the staff

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[01:27:57] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

Not the agenda. Not the minutes. Right. So...

[01:28:03] Speaker 11

Yeah. But that's where we pick our holes in.

[01:28:05] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

right So

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[01:28:11] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice

of the agenda that you want to bring to the meeting as you want to. um At least print the front page. The short agenda so

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[01:28:19] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

you know that's

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what you

[01:28:19] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices

got. um ‸ And... You open everything and look at it so that you can make a good informed decision. um And you... If any of these

[01:28:29] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized

links

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don't work, I try to check them before I actually hit send. Send you to the page.

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office can. So... um If you have problems, just tell us.

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Well I'm glad that you changed it because I could not get anything.

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I know you you had ‸ And

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now

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it's

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all fine. This works better

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for you.

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or did you It work been able to

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do this It worked this time. all right I was able to access this one.

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oh

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so it wasn't

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All

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right. I know we

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that problem with the first of the year. and

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years later. right

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That's right. Is

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it more work for you to send

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out and this new

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is and then I have to build a new PDF and attach all the pages. um But, you know, I have to continue doing this. It's not like I can go back ‸ the old way. um

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have to have everything through the the online system so people can make comment, uh e-comments or. Right. Right. So they can watch the meeting and have the agenda up at

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And then before we

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the problem of I create this giant PDF, you know, and some of the times I had to break it up into pieces

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in a sense, this it's better for a lot of things, but there's pros and cons to everything. And

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you

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there. It's a lot cheaper than the ink that you use on your computer. I have done that a lot.

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unbelievable

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say one word about the staff reports? I just want to emphasize, excuse me, how important they are, um especially for all of our decisions that we make that are quasi-judicial You know, we're supposed to be making those decisions based on the criteria that are in the code. And so what staff's doing in that report is laying out the criteria for you and how at least staff is analyzing that criteria. So that's really, you know, very important for you all to read and then determine if you agree or don't agree.

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No,

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uh at the last meeting,

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that's available for free that right a lot of the members here have brought up to work it doesn't cost us any money and she has all these great licenses. As a matter of fact, um Larry mentioned that I think he had talked to her. But um I was just curious in order for the city to be able to have access to a neutral, unbiased, extremely well licensed um arborist for ‸ questions that come up that has happened many times during the meeting. of Maryland, for example, uh

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you had any luck contacting her or to find out because all she says she needs is approval by the city manager and you have her i'm gonna for advice.

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Right. I'm gonna ‸ bring that to the next meeting. oh okay. And

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that's it.

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‸ Thank you. Isn't the

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‸ I have a

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sorry. I just wanted to ask you a quick question. ‸ do you know what's going in at the corner of uh

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and the

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across from ‸ fire station one?

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The old

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thing? yeah

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It's been sold. The little pharmacy on the Harvey's,

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side? yeah He bought that. He's moving his pharmacy over to that oh ‸ okay. All right. oh that's what's wrong

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yeah

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yeah

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workers on site

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and they said they didn't know.

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It

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of the Walgreens across the street was in direct competition. And I think they were asking a million for it. I think that's, they bought it for close to that money. So that's what's going on

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Good. Thank you.

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Yeah. I had a, one of my friends asked me two or three months ago and I just thought about it. What are they doing at

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That

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it's been sold and it's been taped off. Tiger Mark. What

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old

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Tiger Mark. But

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that's what's going ‸ there?

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No, that's what was there. Yeah.

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What

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going

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to do with ‸ now? Have

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you heard? ‸ received an

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application for anything.

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Okay.

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‸ I don't

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know. I think it's still under contract. I don't know that it's closed yet. because the sign,

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sold. But so that leads me to believe it's just still under contract.

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Is it still pending? As

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far as I know.

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Do you have any idea what the plan is doing?

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That was years

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ago. That was that was a couple years ago we had a discussion about that. About two years ago we were having a discussion about that here.

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at

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the American Bank building.

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It's

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still there.

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Yeah, they took it down. that nothing formally submitted. That's been ‸ Yeah, yeah It's just

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gone as well. Yeah. yes

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But

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that's a big corner property. so It is, yeah. ‸ someone like Wawa,

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‸ I've heard some interest, but no, we don't have anything okay

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concrete

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yet.

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to bring up the arborist, get back to that. And um you know i certainly the city manager is going to be the one to talk to, but I also think

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should be consulted as well. Yes,

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I'm actually going to talk to

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him

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about it tomorrow.

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‸ Okay, anything else? If not,

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any new construction coming up, new projects?

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I'm going to give you the summary from all of last year and next meeting. And uh yes,

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Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

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