City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2017-01-24
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1131
Also captured via
YouTube mirror (sr1kQVP0LcA) ↗ — alternate recording of the same meeting; primary transcript shown above.
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), John Titkanich Jr (City Manager), Matthew Fuhrer (Assistant City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Tammy Gemmati (Administrative Services Director), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Steve Belden (Community Services Director), Gene Prince (Fire Chief), Michael Cantaloupe (Chief of Police), Teri Butler (Finance Director), Jason McCuen (Helpdesk Support Tech)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr., Don Boisvert, Henry Parrish III, Jeri Blanco (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (12)

  • to approve the Agenda as amended for the Regular meeting of January 24, 2017 and the Minutes for the Special meeting of December 6, 2016 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve the Consent agenda (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • 1. Ordinance No, 18-2016/2 & Final Reading: Establishing a Temporary Moratorium within the jurisdictional limits of the City of Cocoa, prohi — to && approve Ordinance No. 18-2016 on second and final reading (moved by Jeri Blanco, seconded by Clarence Whipple Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 5–6
  • 2. Ordinance 01-2017/1st Reading: Amending Chapter 5 - Animals and Fowl, to : include a new Section 5-35 Backyard Chicken Pilot Program. (17 — to approve Ordinance No. 01-2017 on first reading but change the permit fee to $50 as opposed to the staff recommended $75 (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Jeri Blanco); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 7–8
  • 3. Ordinance 02-2017/1°t Reading: Amending Appendix A, Zoning, Article XIII, Supplementary District Regulations, Section 28, Regulating Busi — to approve Ordinance No. 02-2017 on first reading (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Clarence Whipple Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 7–8
  • 4. Ordinance No. 04-2017/2"° & Final Reading: Repealing Chapter 8, Article V, Enterprise Zone Development Agency; and relieve its members fr — to approve Ordinance No. 04-2017 on second and final reading (moved by Jeri Blanco, seconded by Clarence Whipple Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • 1. Consideration of a request by property owner Mary P. Lorkovic to remove a tree located in the public right of way adjacent to 1802 Baylor — to accept the Planning & Zoning Boards recommendation (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Don Boisvert); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 1. Approve a Resolution amending the FY2017 Budget to record transactions relating to the issuance of the $8,000,000 Fire Protection Assessm — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Clarence Whipple Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 2. Approval for the City to apply for the Victims of Crime Act (VOCA) Grant in the amount of $101,190, and to commit $25,298 towards the mat — to approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Jeri Blanco); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 10
  • 3. Approval for Staff to apply for the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of Violence : Against Women Grant. Awards range from $100,000 to — to approve the item (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 11
  • 4. Award Bid # B-17-05-COC, Harry T. Moore Center Renovation, to C & D Construction with an not to exceed amount of $325,256, in order to me — to ‘ : approve the item (moved by Brenda Warner, seconded by Clarence Whipple Jr.); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 12
  • to adjourn the Regular meeting of January 24, 2017 (moved by Don Boisvert, seconded by Brenda Warner); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Henry Parrish III, Don Boisvert, Jeri Blanco, Brenda Warner, Clarence Whipple Jr.; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 16

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $50 — Council: decided in an adopted motion. “! a approve Ordinance No. 01-2017 on first reading but change the permit fee to $50 as opposed to the staff recommended $75” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, pp. 7–8); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $120,281.59 — Council: Consent agenda item 6, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve the FY 2016-2017 HOME Disbursement Agreement between the City of Cocoa and Brevard County in the amount of $120,281.59.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $8,000,000 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Approve a Resolution amending the FY2017 Budget to record transactions relating to the issuance of the $8,000,000 Fire Protection Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2016; Approve the use of General Fund Reserves (Assigned Fund Balance); Approve the use of Capital Projects Fund Contingency.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 10); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $126,488 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented — total of listed amounts ($101,190 + $25,298), not an additional amount. “The total amount equals $126,488.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 10); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $325,256 — Council: listed on an agenda item that an adopted motion approved as presented. “Moore Center Renovation, to C & D Construction with an not to exceed amount of $325,256, in order to meet the budgetary guidelines set forth by the Historic Preservation Grant awarded for this project.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 12); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $75 — Council: the amount an adopted motion changed FROM (not the amount decided). “! a approve Ordinance No. 01-2017 on first reading but change the permit fee to $50 as opposed to the staff recommended $75” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, pp. 7–8); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $101,190 — Council: requested (grant application): the amount asked for in a grant APPLICATION the body approved or authorized (whether it was awarded is not in the record; not an adopted amount). “Approval for the City to apply for the Victims of Crime Act (VOCA) Grant in the amount of $101,190, and to commit $25,298 towards the match requirement in the application in order to provide victim advocate services to crime victims.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 10); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $25,298 — Council: requested (grant application): the amount asked for in a grant APPLICATION the body approved or authorized (whether it was awarded is not in the record; not an adopted amount). “Approval for the City to apply for the Victims of Crime Act (VOCA) Grant in the amount of $101,190, and to commit $25,298 towards the match requirement in the application in order to provide victim advocate services to crime victims.” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 10); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $100,000 — Council: a range or reference figure named with the item (not an amount decided). “Awards range from $100,000 to $450,000, and will be i available for Fiscal Years 2018, 2019, and 2020.” (a figure named on the agenda item, not an amount adopted; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 11); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $450,000 — Council: a range or reference figure named with the item (not an amount decided). “Awards range from $100,000 to $450,000, and will be i available for Fiscal Years 2018, 2019, and 2020.” (a figure named on the agenda item, not an amount adopted; the City's minutes (1581_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2017.pdf, p. 11); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_01_24_2017), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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will you do the indication for me? Yes,
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if you'll stand, please.
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here tonight. We ask that you lead us and guide us along our way. Help us to make informed decisions. We thank you for the many blessings that you've bestowed upon this great municipality. We ask a special blessing for the people of this community. We ask that your leaders and guide us here tonight, and may all decisions made here tonight be made with you in mind. These and all of the blessings we ask in your name. Amen.
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The faithful flag.
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to the republic
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for which it stands,
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one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Mayor Parrish? Here.
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Here. Councilwoman Blanco? Here. Councilwoman Warner? Here. Councilman Whipple? Here.
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‸ Here.
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Here. And Assistant City Manager Fuhr? Here. Thank you.
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That's good. I'm feeling good.
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I make a motion.
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join the after.
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Yes, Mr. Mayor. Could we add under item number three, under awards and presentation number two, Sister City presentation? Yes. Yes. And then also, you have an updated agenda that reflects removing an item from the agenda that was posted, which would have been under consent agenda. Item number five is now moved to, excuse me, City
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Moore Center renovation.
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Okay.
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‸ Make
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a motion that we approve the agenda for the regular meeting of January 24th as presented with the amendments. Approve the minutes of the special meeting of December 6th as written.
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Second.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
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we go to the, uh, we're
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Brenda,
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have good news for you.
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What's that?
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Don's caught up with you.
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He caught up with me. Oh, you went to the advanced institute.
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Yes.
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Yeah. All right.
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‸ You can stand up. I can
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stand up.
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it's going to be difficult though ‸ because I'm going to three also.
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‸ That's his new Facebook picture.
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Yeah. You can have a hospital just to get that.
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No,
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I just got a hospital, of course, but I was going to postpone it until he got back. I thought about it. Hey, ‸ he's coming.
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Yeah. Okay. They didn't give me any awards at the hospital. They're
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speaking with the nurses, I understand why, and the doctors.
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All right, we're getting off course. That's good. We'll go to Sister City Program. It's Kathy. Kathy, here. How are you doing?
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I'm great. How are you?
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Good.
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Okay. How do I get this to my stuff?
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Good evening, Mayor and Council, and thank you for giving us ‸ just a few minutes. What we're here for, last time we were here, we were the night before we went on our big trip to our sister city in Israel. So what I've done is I've put some pictures up here for you to see. Briefly, we'll go... I'll show you those. A picture is worth a thousand words, so I don't have to speak as much. I'm here with our president, Mr. Bob White, who does have a gift to present to the mayor from the mayor of our sister city. We did our Israel
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We took 32 citizens of Brevard County, many of us from the city of Coco.
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So there we are, ‸ good-looking group. Our sister city is in
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you see us in a picture there looking out over the Valley of Elah. That is where David defeated Goliath, and that's just outside our sister city. The evening that we got there, we were ‸ greeted by the mayor. He's the little bit shorter guy in the middle there.
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us to the city.
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And we were welcomed by some children at one of the local schools.
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help provide the money ‸ to pay for those saxophones that the kids then played for us, which was fantastic. That was great. So we did your typical touring, and believe it or not, ate in a lot of malls, because that was a quick way to get 32 people to eat and ‸ get to a bathroom. So there's a kosher McDonald's. We went everywhere from the deserts of Judea. That's my daughter up there. My daughter in the middle, too. You might see my daughter more than some of the others, but I'm down in the bottom there in a tunnel below the city of Megiddo. You've probably heard about it. Har Megiddo is ‸ Armageddon. So
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We had a personal tour ‸ on a boat on the Sea of Galilee. We visited the River Jordan, but it was too cold to get in besides our feet. We stayed in two guest houses ‸ where the food was just plentiful and hospitality was great. These are some of the young people that came with us. We had a total of about eight young people in their 20s, which was fantastic. We were in Jerusalem at the end of our tour. On Thursdays is a big day for bar mitzvahs, so we saw at least 13 bar mitzvah parades, which are very joyful. We prayed at the wall. That's some of our people. And we did put our prayer requests into the wall. We did bring our dancers, and that was one of the reasons we went. The dancers ‸ danced at a school in Beit Shemesh. They
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And the big event was dancing on the top of Masada, King Herod's Fortress. No dance, no music has been there for over 2,000 years. ‸ So the people at Masada said this was actually quite a historic event for that to happen.
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They set up a special demonstration of the security dog training, and then the dog found a couple of our young girls in the woods as they went out and hid. So that was really cool. And he wasn't able to be with us, but Chief Lewis, a Brevard County Sheriff, and his wife Leslie did spend a day visiting Israel's National Police Academy, which is located in
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And they have already got some ideas and plans that he'll be back to tell you about to go forward from here. So he got some cool ideas, and I think we'll be kind of excited about what's happening next. The ‸ biggest thing about being ambassadors is to love on the people of Israel. And so that's what we did all over Israel, and that was probably the highlight of our tour. We also loved on the IDF soldiers, most of whom are in the early 20s. So our young girls who were also in the early 20s were quite happy about that. But so that was nice, just like our first responders
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military that we would support. We stayed in families' homes, 15 different homes in the city of Beit Shemesh, lived with them, sometimes with lots of children, lots of families, celebrated two Sabbaths with them, which was full of great food and fellowship, which was fantastic. So we formed some really great, lasting relationships. And in the far right, you see a young man on the bottom. He works for
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Their national headquarters is here in Melbourne, and they support new immigrants who are coming to Israel. The young man on the
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our tour, and he was so motivated by everything that he saw and by what was going on that he is now filling out an application to spend a year in Israel volunteering to work for
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So I would say that our trip was successful in fulfilling the mission of Sister City, which is to promote understanding and peace between these two nations. And now, Mr. Bob White, ‸ you want to say a couple words? We've got some gifts to present to the mayor and the city.
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Thank you, Mayor, Councilman. It was a great pleasure for us to go and represent the city of
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in Israel. And our first night in Israel, we had a welcoming party. And at that welcoming party, we had two officials from the city welcome us there. We had
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they welcomed us, and they had a lengthy welcome to us and great wishes for
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the future projects that we might enter in together. And
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Mayor,
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I've met him before. He's here.
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The first is a city banner. We already have one of these on public display already, but this is the second one. And then the primary gift that he wanted you to have is this.
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It's a Mediterranean necklace that has been used by many different countries and many different religions throughout the world. Israelites have taken it on to represent the hand of God. And so it bears protection,
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blessing, happiness, and peace that the mayor wanted to convey to you as the mayor of Coco. It's
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And then he also wanted to give you a personal gift. And I've not opened it up, so I'm not sure what it is. I told the hand that this is assumed to be in their tradition, the hand of God upon you. And so they were wishing that the hand of God would
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need a quick lesson, don't you?
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something good that you can put on the shelf of your library and never pick up again.
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of that.
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right. Thank you.
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one of those cards in it.
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like. Oh, okay. I'll be first because I got to go. Sorry. Lawrence W. Sinclair, 1052, Mitchell Street, Cocoa, Florida, 32922. Good evening, everyone. Good evening. My goodness. It's surprising.
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But he's got a suitable substitute. Welcome back, Deputy Mayor.
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Hello.
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Missed you.
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I have two things. One, you guys know that I'm not the only one. Every time you talk to people in the community, the biggest issue for most of them is speeding and traffic. I mentioned this to Ed. I don't know if it's even possible, but I do know that we can't put speed bumps on every street.
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100 miles an hour. And trust me, I'm not exaggerating when I say at 100, even with the speed tables in front of my house. There's a little, it's, I guess you'd call it a miniature roundabout that's located in
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schools.
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down Broadmoor. I mean, literally, you have no choice but to slow down to take the slight, you know, right to get around it. And I'm wondering if maybe it's something we can look at for the three-way stop intersection at Mitchell and North Carolina. It's not like they stop at the three-way stop signs there anyway. But if we could, the intersection's quite big with the city right away,
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It might be something that we could test and see if it would cut out. At least they wouldn't have the whole street to hit the gas and just go flying down. Let's just face it, we've got more young kids in the neighborhood now than we had when I moved into it. And young kids mean hard heads. And I think some of you guys have seen some of the kids that I have
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dead.
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I mean, this guy knows there's a three-way stop sign there, and he'd run it whether you were standing there watching them or not. So it's just a suggestion on the speeding in the neighborhood. These are intersections that don't have curbs or sidewalks that, you know, we might have the extra space to work with to kind of tap it down and not have to worry about first responders being able to get through there. The second thing is I've been busy. And Mr. City Manager and I, and I think Assistant City Manager and some of the city directors are going to get together at the end of the month to discuss a proposal for Broadmoor
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it has changed hands and I met with the new owners for three hours last Thursday so I am actually in very active negotiations to actually acquire that lot the vacant one next door to Bow West and
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under the Broadmoor Acres under the back wrap name and we'll discuss more of this after I meet with the city and see what we can come up with. But currently we're working with the coalition of local residents who are willing to invest in this community as far as maybe possibly actually building new housing on these lots, as well as trying to get rid of some more of the slum lords scum lords and get owners in. So in early February I'll let you know where we stand
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you doing good
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evening everyone good
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barbecue and blues is a little over four months away almost four and a half not quite I put on I put out there last night a rally the troops and try to get people motivated and excited and councilwoman Warner suggested that maybe I should come and get council excited about it. So there are things that are different this year that we need to fill some gaps and so I'm asking for
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as a sponsor this year
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and we did not meet their qualifications this year for sponsorship. So that is something that we're lacking. We also
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and Bright House has been our major sponsor since the beginning of this event and apparently Spectrum does not support the community the same way that Bright House does so I don't know that that is going to be a for sure no-go, but it sounds kind of like a no-go. They like to build homes rather than advertise on events so I don't know quite how that's going to fill out I'm trying to finagle things to make it sound like we build homes, but ‸ it
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We, of course, are always looking for sponsorship ideas. And we're looking for enthusiastic people with bodies and good ideas so I'm coming here to ask for help and for information and for brains because you all have some of the finest minds in the city. And we can use all of the ideas that we can get. So we meet every Wednesday besides the second Wednesday of the month right there at the HCVA office and so that's where the magic happens. And that's where we throw around ideas and
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we have the best volunteers, the best staff, the best helpers when it comes down to the event. It's just the 11 months leading up to the event that tends to be shorthanded. So being said, does anybody have any questions or you know anybody say hey I know somebody at news 13 call that person
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much um ‸ I mean talk to city manager but talk to like Samantha and she has a lot of she has a lot of potential sponsors I mean
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And another thing on Spectrum, Spectrum is not near as good as Bright House
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but I'm hearing a lot of things
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and get any kind of service from them so I don't know where that's going
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anybody knows anybody at AT&T let me know because that's something we've never been able to approach them because
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an exclusive deal with us so I've never made any contact at AT&T so if
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financially would it have uh the missing sponsors?
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Neither of them put in any financials at all. It's just in kind television shows and advertising out of market so neither of them were financial
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sponsors that's what I was concerned about, whether or not there's going to be a deficit. uh ‸ What
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they did add was we were able to attract bigger sponsors by saying at this cutoff you get on the TV commercials and at this point in time I'm having a little issue saying that do
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um um they were I believe displeased with the data that we presented them and felt that okay that what happens with this particular event is that they the cutoff for applying for funding is May and this event happens in June so they for the next year so they want the numbers from this year's event to sponsor the next year's event before we've had the event. Does that make sense?
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So that was a big issue. So we didn't have those numbers. We had the year before's numbers, and it
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wasn't. Well, you're in you got a radio station, right
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sure we always have 98.5 we always have uh light rock 99.3 we always have wfit
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‸ city city's media is good.
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yeah We've got our friends.
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It's ‸ a list of standalone event. The event's great. ‸ Okay. Cool. Okay. So
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brainstorm. Brainstorm.
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an ordinance of the City
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are establishing a temporary moratorium within the jurisdictional
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adopting findings of fact prohibiting any and all medical cannabis activities during the moratorium period, including the growing cultivation, processing, manufacture, dispensing, distribution, and sale of medical cannabis, low THC cannabis derivative products and related activities, directing staff to develop proposed land development regulations and other recommendations regarding such cannabis related activities, providing for the pen for penalty severability, conflicts with prior inconsistent ordinances, non-codification, correction of scrivenous errors, and an effective day This is the
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and final reading of this ordinance, also a public hearing item. As indicated, this ordinance, if passed, would establish a temporary moratorium in the amount of
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in order to afford staff an opportunity to review the constitutional amendment that passed in November and to determine what, if anything, the City should do with respect to the issue of um of medical cannabis and the effects of the ‸ constitutional uh referendum. Mayor.
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close this to Council, open it to the audience. Would anybody like to speak on this this ordinance? moratorium ordinance red Okay. I'm
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to close it to the audience, bring it back to council. Mr. City Manager. uh
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on articles and information that's been disseminated by the Four League of Cities, most cities are. They're waiting for the legislature to respond with appropriate legislation
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that was passed.
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seemed like 270
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us past the legislative process and also continues to give us the city attorney's office and community services director plenty of time. Clearly,
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the first and there are a number of communities nationwide that have adopted ordinances, you know, attempting to
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adverse impacts of a potential use in our city.
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Motion to approve.
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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Good. All right. We're going to number two. Anthony.
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Okay. Second ordinance is ‸ first reading of
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County, Florida, relating to backyard chickens, amending Chapter 5, ‸ Animals and Fowl, to include a new Section 5-35 backyard chicken ‸ pilot program to allow the keeping of chickens and chicken coops within certain residential zoning districts,
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of backyard chickens, establishing a limited permitting process, providing for a sunset or extension of these regulations upon review by the City Council, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, severability and cooperation into the Code, and an effective date. As noted, this is first reading of this ordinance. I can give you just some general background, and I'm sure Steve may want to chime in here. As you know, the City held a referendum back in 2014 regarding whether or not the City should consider adopting regulations with respect to backyard chickens. That activity seems to be a growing trend around the country. ‸ This ordinance has been prepared in furtherance of that. If this ordinance were to pass, this ordinance would just establish a two-year pilot program in which the City could issue upon receipt of an application a permit for a residential property owner to maintain chickens pursuant to the various terms and conditions in the ordinance. The ‸ ordinance limits the number of chickens to four
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any occupied single-family property. The ordinance establishes a maximum number of permits that could be issued under this pilot program, initially not to exceed 15 permits, which can be expanded
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depending upon public demand ‸ and the success or not success of the program. There are a lot of other details regarding terms and conditions, many of which have come from experiences of other communities around the country that have permitted this type of activity in residential areas.
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Anthony mentioned these would be allowed in residential areas, specifically the
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be allowed. In your backup, I believe there is a map that would show you those locations in the city that would be affected by the ordinance.
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I will mention also that this was heard before the Planning and Zoning Board at its January 11 meeting. They discuss it at length. It was recommended for approval by a 4-3 vote with the stipulation that the application fee be changed from $75 to $20. was their recommendation. And staff is recommending. We put in $75. We thought that was appropriate. That's consistent with many of our other application fees. So in the time and effort and staff time involved with processing these applications, we felt ‸ $75 was appropriate.
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Anybody like to speak on the chicken owners? Come on up. Lawrence, ‸ you already did it. Yeah, you already did it. We're good.
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Actually, I have a couple of questions. As to the areas, the
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would that include neighborhoods similar to mine?
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Okay. Who would enforce the compliance with code ‸ that these chickens would actually be maintained in coops? And I'm going to tell you why I'm asking that question. I have a rooster that's living at
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right now that the property owner has told its tenants they need to remove. The tenant says it just showed up magically four days after they moved in. And now there's a hen. And these things are not maintained, and there's no fence on this property. And this issue is something that actually in our neighborhood we're already dealing with. I don't know how many of you have walked out and had chicken poop, you know, on your front porch, but it's really not exactly a good thing. You know, we have enough birds doing it. We really don't need to add anymore. My issue is if we do this, I understand it's limited. It's a pilot program. The problem is ‸ the enforcement part.
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but the
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has a real issue in the ability to enforce current codes, whether it be
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a lot of times, or in fact I would be the first citizen to say we need to get more money to community development and get a couple of more code officers, to be honest with you. It's a massive job.
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have a fence, then we deal with the issue kind of like the lady down here in the village with the pig.
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point, we can't even address the problem we have with the chickens that are already running around in the neighborhoods in the city or the farm
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animals.
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But that's just my input.
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public's club comments. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. Anybody else? No? Okay. Close it to the public. Bring it back to council. Mr. City Manager, what
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and it is a pilot program. And our existing code enforcement officers,
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mean, obviously we would do an educational campaign, and we would have if somebody has them, we could report they could report them. And our code officers do have the ability to respond.
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I know not just myself, but many staff members, to include council members, went to the house in question, and there was no pig in the backyard.
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So, yeah, I just would say that it's a pilot program. Okay.
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give it a shot. Just kind of we're dipping our toes in the waters, testing to ‸ see what the impact would be. Clearly, one thing, the rooster would be in violation because, as defined in our ordinance, hens ‸ are only permitted. Right. So that could easily be dealt with working, I would ‸ say, between code, the police department, and probably animal control to address that issue.
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you know, that might be able to assist us in moving this program forward.
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There are enforcement provisions specifically set forth in the ordinance, but
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you know, ‸ this is ‸ a permit that would be issued on a first-come, first-served basis, provided that the applicant agrees to certain terms and conditions, one of which is a right of entry onto the property to monitor whether or not the chickens are being maintained in accordance with the code, in addition, it was the staff's belief, as well as, you know, other communities, is that if you're going to do this pilot program to ‸ in order to educate the public and to better enforce the terms and conditions is to limit the number of permits. So, at first, the permits would only be limited to 15, which makes it a little bit more manageable in which to monitor, to see how things go. So, again, this is just a test pilot program that would sunset, you know, in two years' time period ‸ based on the results of the permit program. Excellent
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I I have to agree with Mr. Sinclair to a point because it concerns me as well about the policing, because I know this will just add more work to the already overloaded code enforcement officers that we do have, and I know they're doing a great job and they do deal with all sorts of violations. And but I like the way it's written and I like the fact that it's limited to only a maximum of 25. Personally, I think the fee of 75 is a little high for someone pulling a permit for a chicken coop. That's my opinion. I think $50 will be more reasonable. But ‸ I do like the restrictions that are in place and it's a pilot program, so try it, see what happens.
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I agree with Jerry. First of all, I think the 75 is a little bit too steep, but 20 is like don't even bother. So 50 would be more in line. We have a neighboring city that's had an ordinance very, very similar to this for a while. They currently have like two active permits in the entire city. They started out with, you know, seven or eight people and most of them found that keeping chickens is not as much fun as everybody assumed it would be and it's a lot more work than people thought it would be.
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chickens now. So
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They did a similar thing.
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Having grown up with chickens, I think they'll change their minds. I do see one advantage though in that for anybody who has chickens in their backyard, they make great security devices because they make a lot of noise when anybody comes around at night that isn't supposed to be there. So if you want to look at the pros and cons, I think there's both each way. But, ‸ yeah, I'm with Jerry. It's a pilot program. We can give it a try.
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people who agree to let us come and inspect their chicken coops and take a look at their chickens if they get a permit.
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of their chickens and their roosters. And, yes, Mr. Sinclair, I actually had code enforcement officers chase chickens and roosters down my street one time.
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Some of my neighbors were highly upset. So you
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think he's really good at Publix?
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I just think that, you know, extra 69 cents a dozen at Aldi's, and I'm sorry, but it's not worth 69 cents a dozen to me to put up with the noise and the smell of chickens. So I will not be having any chickens in my backyard.
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And I think we may have a bunch of people who give it a try and figure that out for themselves. Yeah.
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Don? You said what I was going to say. You guys are. Okay.
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That's good. Okay. So take action on it, right?
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I'll make a motion that we pass the ordinance with a change of $50 for the permit fee as opposed to 75. I'll second.
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Second. Jerry?
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
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City of Cocoa Brevard County, Florida amending Appendix A zoning,
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Vehicles, Agricultural Equipment, Major Recreational Equipment, and Mobile Homes and Accessory Uses thereof, Providing for the repeal of primary consistent ordinances and
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severability, incorporation into the code, and an effective date.
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This is the first reading of this ordinance. This ordinance proposes the change, the time periods in which special sales permit events can be permitted. The proposal would change it to allow the businesses to have up to six separate seven consecutive day sale events per calendar year, and
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may be combined to create a 14 consecutive day sales special sales
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allowed in place of all other special sale events during the calendar year. In addition, this ordinance would propose permitting vehicles to be displayed on non-paved surfaces during the permitted special sales event period. Mayor.
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Okay. We'll close this to the council and open it up to the audience. Anybody like to speak on this ordinance?
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Motion approved.
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Okay. All in favor? Aye.
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Any opposed? Okay.
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Very good. The
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last public hearing item is Ordinance 04-2017. This is second and final reading of an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Cocoa Brevard County, Florida, repealing Chapter 8, Article 5, Enterprise Zone Development Agency, providing for the dissolution of the city's Enterprise Zone Development Agency, and formally relieving the members thereof from service on said agency, providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code,
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Again, this is second and final reading and a public hearing item. This is just some house cleaning since the legislature removed and repealed the Enterprise Zone ‸ provisions in the statute. This ordinance, if passed, will remove all of the language in the code pertaining to the Enterprise Zone since it's dead letter law.
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Anybody like to speak on this ordinance? Yeah. No. We'll close it. The audience will bring it back to council.
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take action.
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All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. All right. So, move to council business.
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Mr. Mayor.
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We have a card on this. Yes.
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Well,
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Nelson, are you still here? Okay.
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Sure.
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Sure. This is a request by property owner Mary P.
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to remove a tree located in the
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The request by Ms. Lorchovic was made to public works department regarding a tree in front of her in the public right-of-way in front of her house to have it removed. And her statement to them was that it was causing damage to the sidewalk and also causing damage to her irrigation system. The tree itself is healthy. There's no issues with the tree. It's a ‸ maple tree. So, ‸ it's not in distress. It's not dying.
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And after that, it was referred to our office, community services, to review because per code, any tree in the right-of-way that is being requested to ‸ be removed. And it's not an immediate threat to safety or public health or the tree is dead. It must go before the tree board for a recommendation regarding the request for removal. The tree board is the planning and zoning board. They act as the ‸ tree board as well. And so, the application ‸ was submitted to our office ‸ to go before the tree board to make a recommendation to council. We inspected the tree. We inspected the condition of the property. And we found no significant damage to the sidewalk.
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‸ Public Works has also inspected it as well. There was no major damage that we were able to observe to the irrigation system. Ms. Larkovic did provide an invoice of work ‸ that was done on the irrigation system by a company. And basically, what they did is they just replaced a few of the sprinkler heads that were damaged, I guess, and this was shortly after the hurricane for a total of $114. There was no other work done on the irrigation system that we were aware of.
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recommended denial of the request to have the tree removed. And after deliberation, the tree board also recommended denial by a vote of six to one.
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She was unable to attend this evening, but he is here. And I believe he is offering a solution regarding the tree.
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Hey, Ron. Name and address for ‸ the record.
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Ron Nelson. Actually, I live in Orlando, 10325 Olcott Street. But I'm here on behalf of my mother. She's a little ill this evening.
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tree. There's really no need to cut it down. However, there is, I observed today, ‸ you can see a root protruding between the little, you know, space between each segment of concrete. So, ‸ if they could cut that one root, that would pretty much solve that problem because it is uplifted again.
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You can see the root doing it, which that shouldn't be too big of a deal.
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Can we do that? Cut a root?
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It's just going to be a trip hazard unless that one is cut. It's just going to keep getting thicker and thicker.
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We can have public works go out there and make the appropriate remedy.
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As far as the roots go, I just told her,
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I'll just use something like Roundup or something every so often. That'll kill, I guess, whatever, trying to seek water or whatever.
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But if we could, if it's what you're saying, cut the root, the root, that would be the... Yeah.
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looks real healthy. It's got large roots elsewhere, so I don't think one would really hurt it. Right. Surface roots. Yeah, so that's really all I have to say.
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Perfect. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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would recommend that you take action and you uphold the Planning and Zoning Board's decision, and if there's something that materializes in the future that staff would, you know, working with the family would...
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No. Do you have a problem with the... I'll do it.
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No.
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Works Crew will go out there and evaluate and make the appropriate remedy, you know, to the root that's coming through the crevices of the sidewalks, I guess,
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Okay, Ron, so we're going to deny it as the board, but then they're going to come out and look at it and hopefully cut it, cut the root. Okay. Okay. Anybody want to...
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So the motion can be
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Council Item 17-44.
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Second.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Ron, thank you. I hope your mom's feeling better. Okay. All right, so we go to City Business. Here.
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Right there. This item is asking Council to approve a resolution amending the FY17 budget to record transactions related to the issuance of $8 million Fire Protection Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2016.
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of general fund reserves and to approve the use of capital projects fund contingency. I'm available for questions.
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Motion to approve.
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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
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Thank you.
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That was your answer. Okay. Chief?
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Thank you, Mayor. As Council to approve for the City to apply for the Victims of Crime Act
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a match requirement in the application in order to provide victim advocate services to crime victims.
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Motion to approve. Second.
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Yes, sir. Go ahead.
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the current victim advocate position are both grant funded and the continuation of those positions are subject to continued grant funding.
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And each of ‸ the current employee and then the new employee would know, they know that, will know that. The current does and the new one would.
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That's where we're at. Thank you.
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All in favor? Aye.
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Aye. Aye. Any opposed? ‸ All right.
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phone interview.
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Thank
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you, Mayor. I just want to ask Council to approve for staff to apply for the U.S.
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Department
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of Justice Office of Violence Against Women's Grant. Awards range from $100,000 to $450,000 and will be available for fiscal years 2018, 2019, and 2020.
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Second.
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‸ All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Okay.
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go to the...
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renovation. Ed?
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Yes, Mayor. I'd like to recommend Council to award bid 17-05-COC for the Harry T. Moore Center renovations. The
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of $325,256.
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guidelines set forth by the historic preservation grant that was awarded for this project. Basically, there were two grants awarded. There was a small grant ‸ which we already completed, some mechanical plumbing work and so forth.
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‸ The total
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$30,000 was allocated towards architectural services and the balance was going to this construction project. This is funded by
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The application was put together by my staff and we've been working with the architect, got plans,
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We negotiated with the contractor to get the scope down to the funds that we could afford and we will be moving forward assuming that you award this bid.
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we need to be done by June. That's the deadline now. We may have to apply for an extension, which
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granted, but we expect to be done in approximately six
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Yes.
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Basically, the building has moisture issues and the moisture basically comes up from the subgrade underneath. It's not a slab on grade. It's built on a wood floor with a crawl space underneath. The moisture actually we discovered would collect on the bottom of the floor and it actually rotted out the plywood that was put down several years ago.
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would rot
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We found the original joist in pretty good shape. You know,
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Did
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you see the trees they cut?
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Yeah, we will be sealing that up with plastic to keep the moisture from the ground from getting into that area. And then actually that will become part of the air-conditioned area of the building, climate control, to control the moisture underneath there. So it should help the longevity of the ‸ building. Luckily, ‸ the timbers didn't rot out. Right. It's just the flooring and the subfloor that had issues.
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That's good. Mr. City Manager, can we ‸ get
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As soon as we're able
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‸ we will work to I know Alberta Wilson and the National Congress for Black Women has expressed an interest in curating and getting a museum up and running at the site. And I've told her once we get to that point, we'll reach out to her. And once this project starts, it'll be time to reach out to her.
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Okay. Good. And can I ask Mr. Whipple to stay on this? Yes. And we need to get this rolling.
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I will. Mr. Mayor, I will. And I did meet with the City Manager last week. Okay. There are a number of items that we discussed, about 10 items. And we have another meeting planned for follow-up, things that need to come before
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Council in regards to
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some of those issues will be brought forward. And this was one of them.
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Yes,
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In looking at the agreement for the grant, the State of Florida Department of State granted the monies for the Harry T. Moore Center, but it says that it should go towards the Leon and Jewel Collins African American Heritage Museum. Will we have monies after ‸ construction or ‸ restructuring, whatever language you want to use, will there be monies available in that grant to donate towards the museum?
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Not from this grant? No. This grant, we actually used all the money in the building. Actually, we had wanted to replace the windows and doors. ‸ We had to cut some windows and doors out. There won't be any money left over for cabinets and things like that, if that's what you're asking.
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‸ Okay. The grant was for $230,256
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Okay, but they granted $230,000. If it's matching, should it be more?
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Well, that was the amount that was agreed to the city. We just budgeted half of
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the amount that the grant was for, so it's not matching by the city.
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It's not exact match. Actually, they're more than matching what we're putting in.
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that the city was supposed to do the same. Is
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50-50 match? Why 135?
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That was the scope of the project that we had decided on, on what was needed.
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what was awarded.
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So ‸ we
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the city providing the balance of $125,000.
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but I still have some clarity issues in regards to the finances for that facility.
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All right. What question? And I'll get
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with the city manager offline, and perhaps maybe I'll be able to get a better understanding of the financial aspect of the Jewel Collins and Leon Collins Museum. I know that the building is named Harry T. Moore Center. That's correct. That's
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The, I think, primary purpose of this renovation and the grant.
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The future museum. Right. The
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future is the future museum for those two individuals.
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it. So,
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Thank you all for the information.
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Any more questions? Anybody? Anybody? That's a really big draw to our city and the area that needs it, building that needs it. And ‸ it's real smart what we're doing, but it just needs to happen. It should happen faster. That's all. Okay. Any more questions?
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Okay. Motion
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Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Good.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thanks, Ed. We've
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Anybody in the audience from an advisory board or committee would like to speak? Okay.
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We're going to move ahead to city administration.
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we, uh staff uh reached out to Ms. Prude, took us a little time to get in touch with her. It was difficult, uh but we finally did and uh spoke with her. And apparently ‸ the the roof leak that she was having has been repaired by her son. So she no longer has the leak in her roof. um We did look and see she is on our rehab list. uh She is uh way down on our list, but she is on our list ‸ number 80. So it would take, it would be quite a while before we would be able to get to her for rehab. ‸ The other issue she's having, I guess, is uh some electrical issue. um some of Some of her lights kept uh burning out, and we did arrange for uh building inspector to go out, take a look, and try and uh determine what the situation, with the what the problem was. ‸ apparently there is a short in her electrical system at this time with with some of the lighting. It's not affecting the entire house, but it is it is affecting part of it. um So at this point, uh bad
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it could be. uh So, you know, we asked if her son possibly could could do the repair, and ‸ apparently he can't. He started a job. So that's kind of faced with that situation right now. We're just trying to to repair that. I don't ‸ call it minor work, but it's it's not the uh issue she was having before with the roof. So, um you know, we've been trying to work with her the best that we can to kind of resolve resolve her issues that she's having. But that that seems to be the remaining issue that she's having is that there is ‸ short in in
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Okay. Good. Thank you. Anything else?
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That's all.
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Okay. All right. John?
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that's another portion
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have a couple things. uh First of all, I just wanted to give council and the citizens a little bit ‸ information. uh
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in the city. uh That's where the officers will be coming into different neighborhoods, many of the neighborhoods, um actually parking the cars in neighborhoods, getting out and walking around and talking to the citizens. uh This is a program that we hope will strengthen the bonds between the citizens and the officers. um I ask our citizens, especially to be honest with the officers, if there's issues in the neighborhoods, please talk to us about it. uh Myself and
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the other day,
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and in about 30 minutes I learned a lot of things. So I think the program will be very successful. The other thing is um pedestrians, I ask again for our citizens, when you're crossing the roadways, please use the crosswalks. The crosswalks are lit.
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use the crosswalks. You can expect the officers and myself, if you're not using the ‸ crosswalk, and we observe it, to stop you and remind you where the crosswalks are. um If that still becomes an issue, uh we'll start actually issuing pedestrian citations for not using the crosswalks.
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Good.
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from council, we're glad to answer them. If not, uh that's all for tonight.
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A couple things. One is we know we have a speeding problem problem in a lot of the neighborhoods. Yes. um Maybe you won't tell me anything new, but since you're talking to people, you're hearing that, right?
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Absolutely. And, you know,
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and um several of them brought that up. From there, we went back. I met with some of the sergeants, and
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um with both our motor unit and our shifts to um to work the traffic complaints. And we'll continue to do that throughout neighborhoods.
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It's pretty good to see, to hear ground.
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Absolutely. On
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the ground completely You know, we all sit back, and the best thing to do is go walk in neighborhoods. And I'll tell you right now, our
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a lot less. And um
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Whatever you're doing, keep doing it. Thank you. We
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report tonight. um I wanted to let council know about uh some billing errors that occurred uh over the last part of last week and ‸ the first part of this week. uh This is in relation to Brevard County residential sewer. It doesn't affect water bills at all, so it's Brevard County residential sewer. This was a combination of human error uh on the part of many people. It was like the perfect storm that created this. It's never happened before. I don't anticipate it'll happen again, but I wanted to let you know in case you received any calls about it.
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gallons for sewer bill, and that cap was not in place, and so they build full usage. All 180
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have been adjusted, and letters have been sent uh with an explanation. uh It was brought to attention to a billing clerk. As soon as she noticed it, then it opened up the whole thing. ‸ We were able to figure out everybody that was overbilled, and they've all been fixed.
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uh
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the same uh the same error, there were approximately 10 000 accounts that were underbilled by 96 cents. So this also only applies to Brevard County sewer customers
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effective way to correct this, and the county's well aware that this happened,
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cents on their next bill. Now, we've not received a single phone call that I'm aware of saying that their bills were shorted, you know, by 96 cents. um We have engaged the uh assistance of our software provider, because obviously 10 000 accounts, is there's that leaves a lot of room for error. um ‸ they're looking at it for us. We're hoping to get that all worked out and corrected by the end of this week or the first part of next week. uh
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characters, roll ‸ out the bottom of every person's bill that's affected, and uh it will just
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in. We've also extended their due dates. So they're going to get a brand new bill, and it'll have an explanation at the bottom, and we've extended their due dates because of our error. So I want to make you aware just in case you received any calls.
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Thank
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you.
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Thank you. Yeah, thank you. All right. Ed?
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uh Just one quick uh report. The Fire Station
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project, uh I know we all went out and turned a little dirt, but now the contractors turned a little more dirt, pulled a
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few
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more trees out, and the fencing's going up. uh
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but uh They've
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made a lot of progress. Well,
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they're just getting started. But, uh yeah, it's going to be uh quite a involved site pretty soon, and, uh you know, the fence is just the start. But uh
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so
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Good. That's good.
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Stand by and watch, but but uh keep your hat on on the sidewalk.
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on. um That's it for my report, unless you have some questions.
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I haven't been in
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and all that?
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uh The lighting is supposed to start. That's Florida Power and Light Project. uh They gave us a notice that it would start sometime in January.
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be done by uh mid-March. I mean,
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‸ I haven't seen anybody out there.
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FPL?
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But FPL,
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that
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um Our crews, of course, they finished the drainage ‸ work. uh The uh paving company is putting down the final layer of paving. There's a few more inlet boxes to finish. And then they'll be striped after 30 days. After it's temporary stripe, we'll come back and put the uh the thermoplastic permanent striping on. And then we'll be done. But uh we're closing in on it. If
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you if you remember, let me know. Text me or something.
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I want to see how good it is.
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All right. Yeah. I don't know what in
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and
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up pretty good.
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Okay. That's it. Is that the final layer of uh asphalt that's going to go on That they're putting
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on this week? Yes, that's the final layer.
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Has it actually been put on? I drove i drive it every morning. And there's a It's been noticeable difference about
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half of it. Yeah, they've
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the west half they're working on, and they're working on the turnouts.
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So they're just working on this the streets, uh the entry ways turnouts
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on the side roads. On the side roads. And the the pavement on the main part of Fisk is done
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almost. Getting close.
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you on the Patriots winning, going to ‸ Super Bowl. You gonna make a prediction
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prediction. Go
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ahead. Go
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ahead. Who
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do you think's gonna ‸ win? It's gonna ‸ be the Patriots, of course. this is This is the year. Yes. They look unstoppable. I'll say that. here Yep. All right. That's that's the deputy mayor. ‸ i
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want
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uh ‸ just want to comment on the event uh that I attended last night. It was a
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championship. uh It was a good uh community event. A little windy, but uh ‸ good community event, uh good turnout. And uh maybe if the Patriots win,
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beat them. That's
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balls and
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it. Okay. okay Mr. City Manager.
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uh Yes, I just want to pass along to City Council. For those that, and the members of the public, for those that recall, former Councilwoman Pat McCrary. uh This sat this past Saturday, January 21st, uh Pat passed away. uh She was appointed to Council in October of 2007, uh subsequently elected in November of 2008. and uh And then on January of 2010, she had to resign her seat due to health reasons. So she served two years and three months with the city. um our I know she has a daughter, so our prayers and thoughts are with her family. And um so
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out on the service, right? Is it this Saturday? ‸ Okay. Yeah.
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Okay. um
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in regards to
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and the celebration for their state
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win as they have, they're going to put us on the map for sure for
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sure. Yeah, we are
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already there, but we're going to be uh even further in the limelight. And I'd like to say that I'm happy that the city of Coco uh supports our high school in the manner in which we do. On the back of the t-shirts, they had on the back of the Coco High School t-shirts, one band, community and family. One band, one community, one family. And I do believe that the high school in our education system is part of our family in this great
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uh for further education. And I want to compliment uh
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uh He turned and asked how many how many of the seniors received um scholarships. yeah And he made them an offer that if they go out and get their college degree four years or five years, that when they
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they are hired. And I think that's big volumes for our school system. ‸ Yes, that is huge for uh Dr. Blackburn to uh make that offer. I think it was great. uh That's all I have.
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He cares about
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We appreciate him.
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Thank you.
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um ‸ Just to add to what Matt and Mr. Whipple said, it was really nice
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night. uh But I would also like to add um congratulations to um Dr. Sullivan on her promotion. uh And we know that we'll still get great support from her at the admin uh level. And also congratulations to Mr. Rashad Wilson um on uh his move, um which I think is uh going to be a real smooth and um great transition for the students at
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High. And uh I know we'll see great things from them,
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of our community, which is why many years ago the council of the city made the decision to
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Which, you know, it's just my personal thoughts that um you know
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band and its football team, we have seen a increase in participation and an improvement in um the performance. And those four um state championships have come since that new stadium uh has been out there. um So I think um we got our money's worth out of that stadium already. And um I'm happy for the kids. um Having attended a high school that had its own stadium, uh I know what a, you know, it's it's like the living room in our homes. It's where you do everything at the school. It's, you know, one of the center points of your school. So I'm real proud that the city made that investment several years ago, even though it was very contentious at the time. And
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the football program at
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that good football
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people who think otherwise, attracts people to your city. And that's very important for us to have a great school if we want to attract new business and new residents to the city, which
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for being a great partner in helping us grow
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‸ That's it
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for me.
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Thank you. That's good. No report done? We're glad you're uh back home. I'm back home. Back to normal, I hope.
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Hopefully. ‸ Thank you.
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Okay. um Let me just start here. We'll end this here.
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uh State Championship celebration last uh evening. It was uh ‸ probably of all the events I've ever been to, it was the most hometown, had a hometown feel that you couldn't believe. I mean, all of us, like Clarence said it, we're all on the same team, every one of us. and Everybody there, even the uh Dr. Blackburn, he loves
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and he comes to all the events. um He feels the hometown feel to it. I mean, I
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can't put in words, but he's just there's something about it that uh everybody cares about each other, and we all want to see
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go you know the right direction. And
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there's a lot of folks, but it was ‸ very warm and very hometown feeling, and I appreciate that. It was a great event. It wasn't too long, was it? Quick event, less than an hour, and it was a great rally. But uh I hope uh got a feeling we're gonna ‸ win some more, so we're gonna ‸ build on that. last night
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question real quick?
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gonna ‸ say that. Okay,
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go ahead.
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NFL style? I mean, I thought the kids were ‸ I just thought they had a lot of confidence,
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you know, ‸ that was really cool. You
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see it just like, you know, they weren't hanging their heads. I mean, they were confident. That was great. And
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you know, they were second, third string, whatever, but had a lot of confidence. yeah But I tell you,
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they got it going on. They know that they worked hard, and you can just see where this they're going to pass it on to the next group.
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Yeah. It was just really nice to see that confidence out of teenagers, which you don't normally ‸ Great kids. Yeah.
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Great kids. But, uh yeah, thank you. It was just, it was a unique event, so. And Clarence is right, we're gonna ‸ have more. um Okay, just to run down my quick list, the sunken boat out there. Matt, anything from the county on that? uh
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No word yet. uh The FWC is okay following up on that case. Okay.
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But we should get some movement on it at some point, right?
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okay Yeah, there's they're still uh trying to get the derelict status on that boat before it can be removed.
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Okay. Okay. Hey, John, um ‸ on the port property, anything
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Yeah, it is moving forward
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and um
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appropriate form, we'll bring it back to council.
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and I think they're getting ready to start construction. So
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we got a Wawa and a Flying J? ‸ Big time.
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Which which i I neglected to thank uh Community Services, uh this you know, the AEDU, the Annual Economic Development park Update, and
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uh on the 524, anything you can share?
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There's not been a meeting yet. uh i think we
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say the property has been bought.
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oh Yes. It was announced um at the AEDU that they have the firm has acquired the property in December.
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you're still you're going to have a meeting with the developer, right?
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got a feeling that's going to be a catalyst project. that's going to
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Right. You know, really fortunate for us, the city, because they wanted too much money for it. And so when the economy got good, it held everybody off
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the good people came in, the good developers. So I think that's going to be a catalyst project. for the
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Yeah, well, that's what I'm getting at. uh That would have been a mistake. So it
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a great job, you know, fighting that battle. So, all right. um Let me go through this here. Okay. I'm gonna ‸ do a little polling here. um John, well, from the council. Does everybody on the council feel like that we should move towards, you know, our new, uh the
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Smith Center and completing that project? uh It would be a
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and a half years. Do we feel... uh I think we should finish Harry
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first then go for it.
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Okay. Are you are you forward against?
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we should finish the Harry
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before we go into another project.
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I have to agree with Don on that. Yeah. Same here. Okay. all right Can I just add
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to the for the council's ‸ benefit? uh
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want to workshop. We
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have a funding shortfall. We have a
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Right. Okay. uh Number two is on a... uh This isn't a loaded question, but on a parking garage for downtown,
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doing. And in other words, a contractor to build it and own it or lease it for long, long term to... uh And operate it. that we're doing?
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uh We are actually, Steve and I, had a discussion just this past week about getting an RFP together to look at a potential P3 or public private partnership, update the parking feasibility study because they're going to want to see numbers uh
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to entering into anything. uh ‸ in agreement, plus obviously the the city wants to... um There's an interesting article. um If you follow me on Twitter, you will see that there's an interesting article there about the the the pros, the cons, and the risks of P3s and you know public private partnerships. So we just need to make sure that our uh we have the requisite staff and expertise on board to help us navigate through that process. But
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we could probably find a company. There's a lot of a lot of good ones.
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As long as it it's just going to make an economic sense for them in terms of what they can charge, then they're going to make money at the end of the day. It's a capitalistic society. so But we we intend to put together a feasibility study for the purposes of soliciting a potential P3 partnership on the parking structure. structure
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um and also probably avoid spending much money on it because that's the reason we're doing
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of any cash. So I got a feeling it'll it'll show that it'll park some cars, you know. Okay,
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thinking long term, obviously. Number three is, you know, when you look at the city and
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look at everything ‸ that has been done before this council, oh ‸ I should have said before I got here. um the The police department's pretty new, really, and still not full, which is good. uh
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won't be 50 and 60 years old. uh City hall, how old
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talked about, you know, a year or so, a year and a half ago, um I think we ought to seriously think about, uh since we're our city's growing and the pace is growing, that we need to look at replacing uh the civic center and uh putting in a maybe a new civic center. Okay. Anybody want anybody against that long-term goal?
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I'm not against it as a long-term goal. i But it's it definitely would not be one of my priorities for the next couple of years. I mean, I think we still got a lot of things we need to finish. It's still functional. It's, you know, could we have a place that did more? Yes. um
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We talked about even adding a second floor um to expand, you know, some um some possibilities of lease space uh on the second floor, some meeting rooms and stuff. and yeah there were several. There may even be some plans and studies somewhere. um The problem being, you know, that the footprint can't
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know, we between the agreement with Taylor Park and our deed for Taylor Park and...
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We could spread out a little bit, right?
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No. Actually, ‸ councilman Warner is correct. The Taylor Park deed and
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So
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bit, you know, to the uh
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we've ‸ We've had internal discussions, and it might be something to um put out there
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see if there's, a again, a public private partnership interest, you know somebody ‸ wants to build and
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out. you know if they That would be the only way I see because the financing for something like that. If a if a parking garage is going to cost
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million,
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imagine what a three to four story civic center is going to cost. I
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i would just say that they're you know the the going up, even if we only went up one story or if we went up two or whatever, there's a building on Merritt Island that was renovated a few years ago, and they literally just built a second floor over top of the first floor and then tied the two of them together. So there was a very, very minimal disruption of what was going on on the first floor until the second floor was finished,
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everybody just moved up to the second floor. And actually, it's the Space Coast Association of Realtors building on Merritt Island. um They built the second floor, moved everybody upstairs, and then finished renovating the bottom floor. So I know that it could possibly be done with very little disruption to what we currently do at the civic center, that you know we would still have some use of the building if we wanted just to add a second floor. But you know somebody somebody is going to have to look at the property deeds and all the other stuff, which we did several years ago, which is why I knew that, right uh because we had looked at the deeds,
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and stuff at one time. So, um yeah, it's a long-term project, yeah, but like I said, there's there's a list ‸ a whole bunch of stuff I'd like to see first, yeah
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yeah. I'm sure John's happy if nobody wanted to do it, but I think we got to look at that
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ought to look at it as a goal, because here we are, you know, it's probably going to end up the oldest building that's being used, in
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words, you know.
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And they're actually,
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It's just
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uh I think the opportunity would exist potentially. You know, again, you're going to ‸ provide a feasibility study. You're going ‸ to demonstrate to some potential investor if you're going to enter into a public private partnership uh and potentially lease the site to them. You know,
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have restrictions on Taylor. So you're
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I mean, you could go up
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two additional decks with a rooftop overlooking the river. I mean, we've talked about it internally, about what possibilities are.
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We don't have parking
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to sustain ‸ That's the problem. But what I'm getting at is today, the snapshot you're taking today, I can tell you from the activity in the whole city and the downtown, everybody's downtown, we better start thinking about it because things are starting to move fast. And you're going to see
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years from now, the economy might slow down, or six years. But I'd say we better start thinking about something really, you know. I'd rather
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just attract a hotel that would do a conference center, and then we wouldn't have to renovate the Civic Center. How about that?
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Well, the Civic Center, is it's continually Yeah, but it's something we
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use. Yeah, we could remodel, but but as far as ‸ We did that 20
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years ago.
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Well, yeah, we did, and did 20 years ago, it's time to do it again. But if we had a hotel with a conference center, we would need to increase the space at the Civic Center is what I'm saying. We could just work with what we've got. We wouldn't have to add a second floor or two floors or something. So I'd just like to see maybe
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put us in a nice hotel with a conference center in it. That would be really, really nice.
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plan, I have no problems with that. But if we're going to do that, we might want to, uh since it is in this in the downtown RDA area, we might want to, you know, maybe look in that direction. But if we're going to do that, we also need to uh go to the county commission planning meeting next Tuesday night at
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o'clock. where the county's going to take up the CRA thing again,
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So we went through that. um But long term yes or no? Something.
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Yeah. Yeah. long term fine.
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Okay, John, you got that. Okay, good. And also, um uh uh ‸ legislative Action Day. John, uh have you talked to Jerry at all?
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have not. I will. I mean, you know, um you know my uh my thoughts are, ‸ in light that there's no, due to the new house rules and there's no specific budget request on behalf of the city, those that want to participate might, you know, uh garner additional strength, you know, by going participating with uh the
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you know, for those that want to attend, we can send it out because we need to make some reservations. But, uh I mean, I think that would be the day to do it. You know, we've we've gone up before earlier when we've had specific requests. And here we don't have, and again, because the new speaker in light of transparency is requiring any specific uh budget ‸ appropriation for a project that you must find a sponsor for the the project and that must make it through both chambers, and then it still has to go to the governor. You know,
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of the budget, both times it made it to the governor's desk and was vetoed. And then
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the day of light in the budget. ‸ hasn't
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that they were not able to find a line item to put it in. So, I mean, I don't
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Yeah. well um I'd like to go up. I'm gonna ‸ go up.
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‸ when the League of Cities. I mean, they would really like
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i got a feeling the
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going to be an issue this upcoming session. I think there's going to be a number of important issues, and I think the the league, you know, I know Councilwoman Blanca was, you know, attended, and council
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I think there's a very good legislative agenda. I think it's um so I think it's there's some issues that, you know, to be honest, I think we're on defense, you know. And then it's about protecting our home rule and ensuring that, you know, every city is not the same in Florida. ‸ And
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or to paint every community as it relates to impact fees, water, uh the way you water utilities are run and rates are set or to uh there's just a lot ‸ there's issues on drones ‸ are going to be coming up. But, you know, we're unique. Every community is unique in many respects.
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of Coco, you know, through its home rule powers is what needs to be reflected and conveyed to the legislature as a whole.
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And I think we're going to have to start, too, at the county level because, you know, Carol's right. The county has always been after the cra's And um one of the things that she mentioned in her email that she sent us all today was that she's been getting um public records requests uh in reference to her cra's um So I'm sure if it's happening to her, it's going to happen to the rest of us. And those requests are coming from the county.
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We've received them and we've provided the information that they they sought.
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cra's will be able to attend uh because we have several citizens that are on our cra's as well as us in the downtown. So hopefully some of our CRA members, if if nothing else, at least the chairs of our cra's might be able to attend that meeting and and pay attention to what's going on.
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unfamiliar with cra's uh but one may be less familiar with cra's
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Well, um this might be a little early. or It's not early. Who would like to go up? You want to go up?
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To tell i See, I'd have to look at my calendar to see if I can go. I
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on there. Okay. Give me two seconds.
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Clarence? Yeah. it's
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Tuesday the 21st and Wednesday the 22nd, so we typically would go up the evening of the 20th, depending ‸ what time. the We haven't seen the agenda.
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we could leave early morning on the Tuesday. We ‸ could get a van.
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I will go, but I i may i may just meet you there because
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But, yeah, I'll go.
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Yeah, put me in, too.
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and go I just gotta get... Just put a maybe for me.
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And just remember, also, on March 25th,
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Okay.
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Anthony was working on ‸ maybe that uh the camera stuff and then uh
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and we're going to be um having individual meetings and ‸ have a workshop, you know, with all of council.
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Okay. Okay. That's it. Sorry to draw it out. um ‸ That's it for me. Anybody want to say anything?
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