City Council

City Council Regular Meeting

Date
2023-01-24
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1130
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1579_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines.)
  • Absences: no absence line could be read from the minutes' text, so none is stated here; the first page of the minutes is the record.
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Anthony A. Garganese (City Attorney), Stockton Whitten (City Manager), Carie E. Shealy (City Clerk), Bryant Smith (Public Works Director), Lisa Richardson (Helpdesk Support Tech), Jack Walsh (Utilities Director), Charlene Neuterman (Community Services Director), Evander Collier IV (Chief of Police), Rebecca Bowman (Finance Director), Jonathan Lamm (Fire Chief)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: Alex Goins, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Lavander Hearn, Lorraine Koss, Mike Blake (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (7)

  • 1. Agenda: Regular Meeting of January 24, 2023. (23-57) — to approve the Agenda as presented for the Regular meeting of January 24, 2023 (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to approve the Consent Agenda (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • Vi. Public Hearings: 1 Conduct a Public Hearing to review the real property inventory list and approve a Resolution identifying certain real — to approve Resolution No. 2023-009 (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • 1. Consider the reappointments of Crystal McQueen and Amy Robinson to the Diamond Square CRA through January 30, 2027. (23-40) — to approve the Reappointments of Crystal McQueen and Amy Robinson to the Diamond Square CRA (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7; the vote on p. 8
  • 2. Consideration of the 2023 City Council meeting date additions and cancellations. (23-46) — to that if any member on the dias has a conflict or another important meeting or event that they must attend and miss a council meeting, that there is an option to plan a special council meeting to replace it (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Lavander Hearn); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 8
  • 2. Consideration of the 2023 City Council meeting date additions and cancellations. (23-46) — to approve the item, and to find a meeting date in October for a State of the City and to keep October 17'" as the District 4 Town Hall meeting (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Mike Blake); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 9
  • to Adjourn the Regular meeting of January 24, 2023 (moved by Herbert "Rip" Dyal, seconded by Alex Goins); CARRIED 5-0; ayes: Mike Blake, Lavander Hearn, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins, Lorraine Koss; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 14; the vote on p. 15

Motions not adopted (1)

  • to rescind what they did at the previous meeting and go by the process they agreed to so that each councilmember has an appointee, for discussion (moved by Lorraine Koss, seconded by Lavander Hearn); FAILED 2-3; ayes: Lorraine Koss, Lavander Hearn; nays: Mike Blake, Herbert "Rip" Dyal, Alex Goins — the City's minutes, p. 12; the vote on p. 13

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $90,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 1, approved with the Consent agenda — authorized up to (a spending limit, not an amount spent). “Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with Ring Power, Palm Bay, Florida, to Provide Annual Maintenance and Technical Analysis Services for Twenty-Two (22) Generators Operated by the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Utilizing the Sourcewell Contract RFP #092222, effective December 6, 2022 through November 22, 2026, not to exceed $90,000 each year upon the Adoption ] of the FY24-FY27 Budgets; The Contact” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1579_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2023.pdf, p. 6); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $20,000 — Council: Consent agenda item 1, approved with the Consent agenda. “Approve Participation in a Cooperative Purchase Agreement with Ring Power, Palm Bay, Florida, to Provide Annual Maintenance and Technical Analysis Services for Twenty-Two (22) Generators Operated by the Dyal Water Treatment Plant Utilizing the Sourcewell Contract RFP #092222, effective December 6, 2022 through November 22, 2026, not to exceed $90,000 each year upon the Adoption ] of the FY24-FY27 Budgets; The Contact” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1579_CC_Reg_Minutes_01_24_2023.pdf, p. 6); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CC_Reg_Packet_01_24_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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Okay, thank you very much.
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Moving on to item number 2-1, Agenda Regular Meeting of January 24, 2023.
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Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor by Councilman Dial. Second. Second by
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Just going to call the question. All in favor by saying aye. Aye. And the nays.
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Moving on to 2-2. We have no minutes. Number 3, awards and presentation. Saying none. On the delegation. I have a few cards in my possession. Okay. Do you have any cards? Okay. Thank you. Please be mindful
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come forward and state your name for us. Please, ma'am. Please, sir. And proceed from there. First on the list will be Steve Murphy.
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Good evening,
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The most recent
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issues come up after the last City Council meeting and the tentative approval of the
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Currently, FDOT and Space Coast TPO show a daily traffic count last taken January of 2021. Note when that was taken. ‸ January of
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Showed an average
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acceptable ‸ volume on that. The issue is that these were
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higher than that. So that maximum acceptable volume then was nearing that maximum acceptable volume by FDOT and Space Coast TPO. New development requires traffic studies to be done. But there's an issue with how those traffic studies are done. Those traffic studies are done by each of the individual construction projects, but they're done in a vacuum. Meaning all they're looking at is the FDOT traffic, the latest that's posted, and what is occurring with their particular construction project. It's not looking at the broader picture. So I want to go over what has occurred during
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done.
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that showed for 249 additional units,
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was there before. Now they did a great analysis. I have to commend what they did. And their analysis, when they were looking at it, they looked at it, and they are on their own going to add an additional east and west turn lane to get into those apartments.
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The other thing that's been added in is the Cirrus apartment complex behind CVS on 524. That's an additional 280 units, and per their traffic analysis, which is a standard, they use standard software to do all of this stuff, they show
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Now I do,
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is an added, 52.4 second delay at that traffic light on 524. That's going to be a problem. The other one is the ‸ one that you looked at there, which was the Cirrus apartments. That has no traffic study done. If you add all
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of those
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together
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volume on 524. And that's soon. It doesn't include all the other things like Amazon coming online, addition of other things that are going on there.
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2045. That's two decades of a lot of trouble there.
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want to also point out that there is
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Please write a note,
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Mr. Murphy, because I've extended the time for you, sir.
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Thank you. There is a public safety issue as well. With that added delay there at that CVS light, big public safety issue. There's also added cost that's going to
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Thank you, Mr. Murphy.
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Thank you.
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And trust me, we're addressing that traffic control issue that you're expounding on. I know that's in Councilman Dow's district, and he's been attending the various meetings as well, in conjunction with other members of council and staff. But point well taken. All right.
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Good evening, Councilmembers.
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Graduate, 2022 graduate of the Citizens Academy,
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I'm going to start with the end first so that I don't run out of time.
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city manager evaluation, and which has not... The annual city manager evaluation, and which has not yet taken place, despite Mr. Whitten is now in his third year of service. So my exhortation to you is ‸ to
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and all City Council members to initiate constructive action during tonight's meeting to fulfill this imperative of Mr. Whitten's
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Now, I initiated my inquiry to the city starting last July, when I asked for the city manager evaluations from 2014 to 2022, and
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And so what I found is that there have been no evaluations for Mr.
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in this very key and central
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So what I've decided to do tonight, I did write to city council, so you all have my written statement, but I want to make sure for the record that I say for the record that Mr.
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contract clearly calls this out, that it's required on an annual basis. And so I'd like to read from his actual contract. What it says under the evaluation section is it says, the City Council shall review and evaluate executives' performance during each anniversary of the term of this agreement. Said review and evaluation shall be in accordance with specific criteria developed jointly by employer and executive. Annually, the city council and executive shall define such goals and performance objectives that they deem necessary for the proper operation of the City and an attainment of city council policy objectives, and shall further establish relative priority among these various goals and objectives that shall be reduced to writing. So this is ‸ required to occur in writing. It hasn't. This is frustrating.
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I put a comment on record in October. I reached out again this weekend.
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members, nor Mr.
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nobody has responded. I believe this is a very important thing that needs to occur. And so I have told you and ‸ have given everyone the chance to respond, but
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with an ethics complaint to the International Association of ‸ City Managers, the Florida League of Cities, and
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that the city of Cocoa city manager and all city council members, all of you, are derelict in fulfilling this basic yet essential duty of city administration. The citizens of Cocoa care about this topic and want to see it completed.
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has not been completed. I exhort you all at tonight's meeting to initiate this topic and to make a plan for it to occur. Thank you for
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five and I've given them verbal evaluations ma'am and I've done it
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not ma'am but I thank you for your input but that's my rationale I've done both but I prefer the verbal because you still have accountability and I support our city
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manager
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thank you next on the list John Verde sir
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hey everybody my name is John Verde um founder of a not-for-profit called Hey Blue uh Hey Blue facilitates moments of meaningful connection between police officers and the community that they serve. um I just came by today just to say thank you to Councilman Goins to the chief for participating in an event that we had over the weekend it was um called the Hey Blue Plate special and um as well as
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in-depth conversations about um community and connection and ultimately change so I want to just come here today say thank you and um and that's it
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okay
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thank you sir
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yes sir
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yes sir uh uh so I want to say thank you to to you as well uh for bringing the opportunity to our police department ‸ also the community. um We had a great discussion uh
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between uh the community and police officers. um And so we really, really appreciate you. uh We appreciate the food as well. uh That's that's always a plus. um but But just having that dialogue uh with our police, uh definitely Officer Collins for bringing the boots on the ground effect. uh He spoke a lot about things that he sees on a daily basis and I think he brought it home for all of us that you know for me
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a daily basis but I appreciate him and Chief for being so open uh with all of us uh and bringing us into
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with the people and
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‸ for us, please? Yes,
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sir. um So um if anyone doesn't know, the Chief does a periodic uh walks in the community. And um and so that's the opportunity for the citizens to speak out on things that may they things that they may like and also things that they don't like. um And sometimes we get both. But we and he encourages both interactions.
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um But he was they were able to speak to a code enforcement officer on the spot with an issue that he had. Another person had an issue um with a police department, a police interaction, right? So now he has the opportunity to speak to the chief about that situation. And was able to have that positive communication. uh So again, uh thank you, Chief for doing that as well. um You know, good, good time out
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uh Speaking with the community, good and sometimes not so good. But uh we appreciate both sides.
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Thank you. Chief, what is our next walk? Is it in district? I know you don't want to reveal your hand, but I think we've done every one. And
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the next walk is, but I know
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got one coming up in a couple of weeks.
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Okay, sir. There's been a request for district number two. Okay, we'll honor that thank
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very much sir all right. Miss Linda Gombert. and Thank you, Mr. Verde, sir. How about those Yankees?
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Hello. hello um I'm
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I am here to speak about the agenda item further into the meeting that proposes an annual State of the City meeting
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First of all, I think the idea of
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State of the City meeting is a great idea and
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haven't been doing it before. I mean, seems like a great idea. It should have been doing it. um I can't imagine though why anyone would think that getting rid of the town halls is a good idea. The town hall meetings are a fantastic way for citizens to interact with their council person and their neighbors in a personally relevant way.
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meeting where you stand in front of the dais in a room full of people and you have three minutes to try to state your case and you talk as fast as you possibly can. And you may or may not even get any acknowledgement that you've said anything much less any sort of a discussion. And as far as this, um each district will be highlighted during the new that will be folded into the new State of the City meeting. You know, that kind of sounds like it's more like a summary of what has happened, which is great, but it's not a town hall. So, I'm curious to know who decided that the town hall should be eliminated. um Was it council members? Because, you know, why even run for council if you don't want to deal with your constituents?
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member of staff? And if it was, I mean, that's kind of it doesn't matter who, um because basically everything has to go through the city manager, um whose job, as I understand it, is to implement the policy that council makes and not the other way around.
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staff has decided to do this, um you know, why are you wanting to remove what is arguably the most effective and efficient way for citizens to interact with their city council people and learn what is going on in our own neighborhoods? You
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know, and
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make no mistake, folks, that's what's going on here. Getting rid of the town hall meetings takes away yet another way for citizens to interact with our elected representatives. It's another step in shutting down the citizens voice about what happens in our city and our future. And that's not how democracy works.
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a step toward authoritarianism, and I'm not okay with it. So, are you guys okay with it? You
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guys okay with it?
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No. Thank you.
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Okay, let me, let me, uh I will address that. I walk all four districts thoroughly. um I interact with the
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in all four districts. I myself just had district number four councilwoman cost in my district but she was riding in the community. So we cross over barriers. I'm the only one that's elected at large. I attend multiple meetings. I meet people at the grocery store
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and I know um the other council members here do as well. They do community walks. They pick up trash. They meet with various organizations and clubs and I'm a firm believer in that I don't
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would try to isolate or be becoming a become a government where the people are not involved. So I beg to differ with you and I've been here all my life with the exception of playing professional football and in college. That is 63 years strong, ma'am. Okay, thank you. I didn't move here.
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but it's not right now. Thank you, ma'am.
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she's bringing up the town halls. I'm not sure how your remarks related to the town halls, because at least
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won't go to other meetings. In fact, the first time I ever got involved with the city was in a town hall. Neighbors just stopped by ‸ said, let's go to the town hall. And the reason is there's there isn't that formality. You don't get into the legalese language and that sort of thing. So I think that, um you know, defending that that venue for citizen participation, um I understand her point. And this was,
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‸ So it's not in lieu of town halls. I think we'll be discussing that more later. But, um you know,
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core values.
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um
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they've been well attended. People have been very grateful to have that opportunity to meet staff, as well as councilmen, to ask questions in an informal environment rather than a formal environment where you're standing before a raised dais.
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Nobody said you couldn't have town hall meetings. If you want a town hall meeting, you have to come in and plan a town hall meeting. that's that you know And that's my thing. Sometimes uh people are persuaded and not really informed, sometimes known as a false narrative. So I don't think I've ever heard anyone being neglected or denied a town hall meeting. um ‸ Not right now, ma'am. You may have a seat, please. Give me a minute. I'll bring you up in a minute because I have a few other
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members that need to talk. Thank you. I will bring you up, ma'am. Are you finished, councilwoman
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thank
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um Councilman, who was it? Deputy
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Goins, you were first and then Councilman
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‸ Yes, I just want to say, um miss uh grumber um I appreciate your concern. uh However,
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not an item that's placed by council. um Sometimes there's suggestions from staff. um Myself, personally, I'm in favor of town halls, even though I've had one in the past. And I think maybe we had maybe four people and it was large largely advertised. Only four people showed up. It was in a public place. However, I'm still in favor of town halls and
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planning. um
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halls. um And I just wanted to let people in the audience know that when you see something on the agenda, that doesn't mean that's something that council put up. Sometimes they're just
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okay. Well, what was stated was the state of the state
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would replace the town hall.
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bring ‸ up. ‸ After
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Okay.
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um
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of the, um of citizens is, um to me, uh ridiculous. um
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not, not for ourselves. We don't,
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don't do this for finances.
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I don't mind standing in front of anybody.
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not running from that, and this item, I do not feel, says that um town halls will be outlawed or banned or we have the power to do as we choose as a body. That's our job. We sit and we make arguments about things that we want and things that we don't want.
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either run from it ‸ we want to remove it from the agenda, but at the end of the day, it's our job to argue our points. That's our job. That's what we do. That's why we have dialogue. That's why this is the only opportunity for us to have that dialogue with one another about those items when the agenda when it's placed on the agenda. um So i so I'm definitely for, just like deputy Deputy Mayor Hearn um is for town halls, for sure. Because I might not even name mine time hall. i think called mine uh
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it Red Table Talk. I don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna ‸ call it. But we're going to have times where a community comes together and have the conversation. We do it all the time. It's not about one time per year. We do it every day. This is what we do. So that's my comment.
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There again, no one said you couldn't have a town hall meeting. And that's my thing, a false narrative. You would like to say something, Mrs. um gobert I asked you to come to the podium. No one has ever denied anyone from um Amendment
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freedom of speech.
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the item agenda or the agenda item excuse me which was
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And then
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points. One of them was about the state of the city. And what it said was the state of the city meeting would be in lieu of town halls, and that each district would be highlighted
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had. I wanted to throw in my two cents before discussion was had. Now, that item agenda description changed between yesterday afternoon and today.
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just,
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some of us didn't see it. Because we were looking at it yesterday when the, um what is it, a
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supposed to be online, you know, sometime after Thursday. And here we were Monday afternoon and that's what it was saying. So there wasn't any time to make adjustments if it did change sometime today. That's why I wanted to put for my two cents in.
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Okay, let me reiterate again. No one has no intention up here denying a town hall meeting. here point blank. That's all I can say. Clear, plain and simple. Good. Thank you kindly ma'am. All right, next, Mrs. Weaver. On the car oh councilwoman calls I
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just said that ‸ the change was made somewhere around noon today. So that bullet point was changed.
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Okay. Well i'm glad.
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place mrs weaver are you ready please come to
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I was um coming to get questions
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Yes ‸ go ahead.
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And I was um coming to talk to see, ‸ get questions about the playground at the
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I see it's not being used.
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wondering what um you all was doing with them in the process of opening a daycare and I see some of the equipment um is usable. If possible, um donate it to my daycare or
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seeing what I can do inquiring and purchasing it or.
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um Where's your daycare located
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Okay. um Help me understand something. Did we donate some equipment once before? or A tarp or? um And I don't know, metal awning or something. I'm trying to remember. Okay, councilman, uh go on, sir.
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um Mr. Weaver called me, um I think, ‸ end of last week, uh
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the discussion um started with us when
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to be removed. um ‸ He called me last week, asked about it. I know we've done it in the past. um And i he sent an email. I sent it to um Mr. Bryant. And he definitely responded to it. So I asked him just to come to the council meeting to express to us what they would like to do. um And I think it could be a discussion for us and, you know, I don't know, and then maybe at the next meeting or so to discuss um their plans with it. um Same kind of discussion that we had with uh
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Because right now we know the playground is that hasn't been used in a while. um And repurposing things, I believe that's one of our common themes that I believe that we've been doing the last four or
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find a way to repurpose different things that we have in the community. So, um so I asked them to come tonight for that purpose.
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The previous uh process and protocol we established?
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I forget how we exactly did it, but
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I think that's declared surplus by resolution.
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I don't remember if we were taking that equipment out or what we were actually with the plans. But but again, we can go through that process. Obviously, uh the public process then allows it to be offered to the public because again, there may be others out there who desire that. But but again, so we went through that process. If it's the boards if it's the council's direction, we will certainly go through that process for this. If there's no uh plan to actually utilize that. I think we had a recent discussion about
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‸ Yeah,
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center. So we'll hold off on that until further action. I believe part of the donation we have to give it an evaluation to see what it's worth and and that would be part of that donation. um
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mean, again, we don't, you know, again, if we were just taking it to the to the landfill there,
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And then we'll we'll certainly let you guys know when it's on the agenda.
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Okay. Thank
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you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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in the singer, do you have any cards, ma'am?
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this concludes this portion of delegations, um um and we will proceed on, but i before I move to del um move to consent agenda, I am compelled to read something to the public and
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Manager. and I would like to read this into the minutes. As the Mayor
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to lead this community based on our values of respect, integrity, accountability, excellence, and professionalism. i've been trusted
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through many years of service
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as a
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this community for over a decade and a half because they know me
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that passion and the success we have had over the years. In
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and the employees of the police department to hire our next police chief that will bring accountability to our community
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every day with the
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let a small group of mostly non-residents deter us from our mission of putting our community first.
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Police Department have fought through a year of adversity and continue to provide exceptional public service
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a safe community for all of our residents,
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2021. Even though the nation has seen a trend of rising crime rates over the last year,
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Crime rates. I am disappointed to see a few of our own employees fighting so hard against the leadership that is determined to bring positive results to our community instead of embracing change for positive results. I will not let false information and threats deter us from providing exceptional public
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and what they elected this council to provide We support
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to stand behind him
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as we work our residents to build a better community.
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truly Michael Blake and I felt compelled to show my support and would like to make this an official record
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you consider um ‸ and under reports or if you would like to do it now but I prefer reports okay deputy mayor harms you have your light on, sir. And thank you. ‸ Yes. um Yes. ‸ The
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chief, you definitely have my support. uh and I just want to make it clear just so I'm clear and I have a an understanding um In regards to what the mayor said,
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That my understanding ‸ that we're all in support of the chief. And if anybody feels any different now is a good time to state that for the public.
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that my position is that according to our charter ‸ is the city manager that the chief reports to and
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city manager's responsibility. uh To make sure things run smoothly. And that would be, you know, so ‸ that's a conversation between me and the city manager. So, um
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what you're saying?
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I'm not going to get into this war
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Anyone else would like to elaborate on this? okay thank you
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our police department our chief of police, our city manager, and all employees of the city of Cocoa. Okay. Thank you. All right. well the others I thank you and I respect you um this portion has been completed so I will now move forward to city I
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call the question. All in
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it But let me say one more thing there were times when I was placed in a controversial position and I made a decision good bad and different and I live with my decision that's all
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that was addressed to
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me I have the right ‸ no ma'am
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I'm just saying what I stated I've done ‸ That man right over there, going, uh excuse me,
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and I had to make a decision
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within the city to which the city holds fee, simple title, that is appropriate for permanent affordable housing. um This is public hearing. we're going to turn it over to mrs.
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and then we
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we'll turn it over to the public and they will come
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Mayor. uh This is a public hearing to review the real property that uh inventory list that the city has uh gathered. ‸ and is bringing before you a resolution to identify that property to which the city holds the title of appropriate that is appropriate for permanent affordable housing. So per Florida statutes and every three every three years, each municipality shall prepare an inventory of all real property within its jurisdiction uh to that is appropriate for use as affordable housing. And so the inventory list, which is included in your agenda has the address, the legal description of the property and whether the property is vacant or improved. The 42 properties on the list that you have before you are all vacant properties. uh Following the public hearing tonight, the
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appropriate for the permanent affordable housing. So after the approval if Council so approves this tonight the the list may be offered for sale and the proceeds may be used to purchase land for development of affordable housing or to increase the local government fund that is earmarked for affordable housing. or the property may be sold with a restriction that requires the development of the property as permanent affordable housing or the property may be donated to a non-profit housing organization for the construction of permanent affordable housing. Alternatively the city may otherwise make the property available for use for the production and preservation of permanent affordable housing. the final list as Council approves it tonight will be available for sale once we have gathered all of the documents and prepared the notices for the sale of each property. According to Florida statutes disposition of municipal property the city has to prepare an inventory list and we have to be able to hold it for disposal. The 42 properties that are listed are vacant. There are
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which are platted
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but developed for purposes of permanent affordable workforce housing. We are holding those properties as a city to donate
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may move forward with the uh preparing of the sale and disposal of the properties. And i I don't know if the city attorney needs to read the resolution into the order. Okay. I'm available for any questions, sir. okay
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few things. The first thing the uh the comment about
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20 for um non-profits Is that is that what
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At this time that's how we are holding it.
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those properties for permanent affordable housing. And and
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ago. And so
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the other 22 um is locking them in to one particular um non-profit or developer, because I think we want different products, and we don't want all the homes to resemble. so
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Yeah, and we we have that concern too, and so and so what you guys approved was a uh was a
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project with a uh uh community housing initiative. um And so they, first of
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you don't have the the dollars to actually do all 22, so I think Charlene, correct me if I'm wrong, they'll do maybe four,
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five. And
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and then we're back to the drawing board in terms of what to do with those. uh
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Are we, are we bring anything back to the council after this resolution To
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we don't have to bring anything back to the council unless they have any questions or concerns or additional properties that may not be on the list. And
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to actually, uh you know, section four says uh the uh the city manager may negotiate terms and conditions. And so, uh as as Mrs.
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said there, we want to put reverters on it, but I also want you to see those terms and conditions that I'm going to place on folks who, who want to come and, and, uh and uh bid on, I guess. We, ‸ haven't really decided how we're actually going to put them out for disposal, but, um I, I, you know, i'd prefer to actually bring you back the terms and conditions that we're going to set up for folks who actually want to come and bid on the parcels. uh because again, I think,
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to maybe putting some sort of reverter on the, uh on the, on the parcel. ‸ if you don't build, uh
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within a certain period of time, maybe two years that, that, uh the property somehow reverts back to the city. And I don't know how we can accomplish that. We'll obviously work with the city attorney's office to do that.
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in front, ‸ front of mind sort of comments on that. But again, so I, I intend on making it a two-step process where I'm bringing back to you guys the terms and conditions of, of the sale. Okay.
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Okay. That's uh ‸ I agree with that
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I think like what you stated, the reverter is the most important thing because we don't want people
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to get not only the permit, but also the site plan and all that together in 90 days, 180 days, whatever that number is.
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one, ‸ product not looking the same.
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That's not yeah thank you.
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Thank you.
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confirm. So all of the properties, the sale of the properties that needs to go to affordable housing or that's what we're deciding right now? uh You're approving
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the list tonight. Okay. As it is written. um But
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there ‸ many of these ‸ For the purposes of affordable housing,
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yes.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. Because I was just looking at a couple that are neighborhoods that don't have parks, but they're not. I rode around and looked at all of the lots today and they're really not appropriate for parks anyway. So. i
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see there's a couple of them
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I i did leave that out. I apologize that uh there are two parcels that are not buildable
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that will be offered out to the adjacent property owners. um So a notice will go out to the adjacent property owners for them to uh purchase if they so choose. uh The one residential lot which is on pomola street is 0.1 acres and and the other lot that is adjacent to the railroad tracks um ‸ right along, uh right near Bracco Pond is also not a buildable lot.
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So it'll be a recommendation to sell to the adjacent ‸ property owners as well.
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So they'll have to be sold to that respect, which will not be for affordable housing necessarily, depending on the um properties. uh
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of affordable housing units, but that's something that we can, we can work out with those um developers if they're interested in those
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the, uh closing site about to the council at this moment and open it ‸ up to the public.
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yes ma'am If you can come forward ‸ state your name and address.
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Sudden Street, Rockledge, Florida. My question is with the affordable housing. um Can individuals also seek this type of housing or do we have to go through one of
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suggested programs? Is that going to be mandatory or can someone like me just come in and say, um i like to inquire about this? Good
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question. um I'll turn that over to our
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you know, the trick is going to be uh you as an individual, if you if you see a property that you desire. um You know, is it is it a is it a
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bid sort of proposition? um
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our programs, but not necessarily saying that you have to be in the program. You feel good with that, Charlene?
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Yes. Yes, sir. That's good.
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uh Any more comments on this item from the public? uh Seeing none, I'm going to close this item at this time to the public and open it back up to the council. uh What are the wishes to the wishes of the council
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second by the mayor all in favor aye
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nays there you have it you got that
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error, so we're going to rectify this so we can get uh that point of clarification. um Mrs.
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Thank you. uh So we have two reappointments for the Diamond Square Redevelopment Agency. uh Crystal McQueen was appointed to the Diamond Square CRA ‸ May of 22 to fill the vacated term uh ‸ the term vacated by
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Martin. Her term is set to expire on January 30th and she has indicated she would like to be reappointed. She occupies seat number three which has
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term. um To remind ‸ everybody that the Diamond Square CRA has an interlocal agreement with Brevard County that sets the term limits for all of the members of the agency. We have one seat that is a seat number one which is a one-year term. We have seat number two which is a two-year term. Seat number three a three-year term. Seats number four, five and six are four-year terms. uh So the Scrivener error here is under uh the three-year term for Miss McQueen. Her term will expire on January 30th of 2026 not 2027 as noted in the agenda. uh Miss Robinson was appointed to the Diamond Square CRA in April of 2022 and her term is set to expire on January 30th of this year. And she occupies seat number one which has completed its initial one-year term and if reappointed she will her term will expire on January 30th of 2024 as defined by the charter and the interlocal agreement. And so staff is currently requesting to reappoint Miss McQueen and Miss Robinson to serve on the Diamond Square CRA and they do meet all the requirements for serving on a
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council? Motion to approve. We have a motion on the floor by
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gonna ‸ call the question. um Are
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ladies in the audience?
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uh Miss McQueen is in the audience, ‸ Okay,
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would you please stand and let's give you a round of
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unanimously.
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consideration of the 2023 city council meeting date additions and cancellations. Okay,
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Yeah,
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thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. And again, a lot has been made about this particular item. um
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think the clerk submits
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And so, um as, as most of the agenda, most of the agenda, uh is a series of recommendations, suggestions, um from staff. And so this item, and you'll note that originally that the item did say, uh say, uh
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council or to be added to the calendar there. And so the thought, and it ‸ was my thought, to have a a uh state of the city with district
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wanting to do it that way. ‸ just simply a suggestion of uh of myself and staff there. You know, one of the things that I would ask that if we're going to do the town halls that we obviously give staff some time to prep for those and that those go on the calendar so that each year they're on the calendar so that, you know, we don't have to be uh accused of uh putting them on there for purposes of uh politicking or anything like that. So, so again, that was changed to uh just simply state that, hey, there's a suggestion that we do a, uh a, uh a, ‸ state of the city meeting. um you can do that at the civic center. And if that's an issue, um for folks in terms of attendance or, our willingness to attend a meeting down, uh downtown, then we also know that, that, that, that can be at a site determined by the council. So
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Obviously the mayor doesn't have a district, but again, simply a suggestion as is, uh the workshops, as is the cancellation of primarily most of the meetings in June.
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And I tell you that that works out really well for, uh finance staff and for departmental staff in terms of going and prepping and building the budget just to have that time without,
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so that we can actually go and, and, ‸ do some work there. So again, you know, obviously ‸ the, the,
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this type of item, but all the other items there.
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of the city meeting being in lieu of town halls there. Again, I would, uh ask that if you are planning a town hall that you give, uh staff plenty of notice on that. And so, um again, two workshops in the month of February and we don't have dates for that to actually cancel the second, uh meeting in March there. again, we've given you the reason for that, um because we have to have by charter, um a meeting, uh once a month, then we would only have the one meeting in June. And then we would cancel all other uh council and board meetings. I think maybe the board meetings are different than we had last year.
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during the month of June, um there'll be no meetings of council. And uh advisory boards there. So that's a little different this year. You may want to have some discussion on that, uh
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and then, uh as is probably your practice to cancel the second city council meeting in December, because that is uh close to or close around uh Christmas. So, uh at the pleasure of the of the council. Okay.
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Thank you for uh that descriptive uh detailness
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The third Tuesday has been the traditional date of the District
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Town Hall for the last 12 years that I know of since I've been going. um I also, usually, a state of the city, we've had state of the city meetings. They were the ones that, at least the first couple of years that I was in office, they were the ones that the mayor did in January, which is usually when you would have a state of the city meeting, or it's when you have a state of the state or a state of the nation.
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um So,
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I made it really clear right from the start. I had no idea that town halls had been taken off the calendar last year. That was news to me, and
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because they were not. Well, I didn't look. I just assumed. Since I moved here, they have always, we've always had town halls, and at least
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And as I said before, what's so great about them is I have so many neighbors, this is the only thing they'll go to because it's not the formality. it's it
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raised dais, and they get to meet everybody one-on-one. Conversations are more personal. So, um you know, I would like to continue
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always been and when people expect it. um Is there a reason that we're doing it in October rather than in the beginning of the year?
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So there's a calendar year and there's a fiscal year. And so if you want to advise the community of those things that are in the new budget, then October would be the month uh that you would do that soon thereafter the adoption of the budget there. the It's been a mixed bag with town halls, but again, we're not resistant to that. um And so, you know, to to have a state of the city after you've adopted the budget, uh which comes uh budget year in October 1st, seems reasonable that, you know, the state of the city would be October 1st. uh Sometimes you've had the state of the city in January. Sometimes that's been the economic development practice. Actually, the economic development uh event is tomorrow night, correct? And so we've been trying different things. You know, last year, remember, we we tried the different things with the school kids and with the two speakers there. And so, um again, um
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Okay, of course, the public is not they don't think of our fiscal year, they think of
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terms of the October date,
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they are back in town vacations are over. And
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And it's just worked really well for the town halls. So, you know, if we want to do a stay of the city, that's fine, but not at the expense of the traditional date for the town hall. The one that's been most well attended. You've had good you've had good attendance, too.
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Yes. Great attendance. all Right. Max in the building.
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Yeah, because that's right.
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Every time I've been there, we've had max
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‸ And then the other question I have about this agenda item is the second bullet, which is in regard to,
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‸ in March. So does that mean if, um and and that's an obligation, um a good thing, traveling for the FM, that's the Florida Mayor's Conference, I think, the FMIT. And the NLC is the National League of Cities. Those are really great things for a member of our council to be involved in. um However, why do we, we have a deputy mayor, and I'm not sure why we would cancel the meeting. And
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had to have surgery on a certain date, and I knew that date beforehand, would I be able to submit that
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there has to be some, that this has to be applied equally. um And there's a reason that we have a deputy mayor versus, uh you know.
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Well, first of all, things could end in a tie. With four people, there could be two, two, and we've been stagnant that way once before as well. um The second thing is is that we're bringing uh not only statewide recognition to our city, but prominence nationally wise too as well.
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one accord. And that is the reason why I never
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or thought anything about
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But my concern is, I would not like for it
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I respect that, but that's my decision.
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And that that is a possibility. um And I agree with you that, you know,
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those conferences. Then the issue becomes,
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because
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problem with meeting the uh the Thursday before the 28th. I mean, we could have a special meeting. Okay. There's nothing in there that says you can't have a special meeting.
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‸ Thank you, ma'am. All we have to do is notify them, right? Notice, right? Thank you. And we've had
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gloom or nothing will take place. All I'm saying is if it's necessary and deemable enough, then we will have a special meeting and move forward and address the issue.
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Yes, and I would like to have the special meeting or to have that option. But the question still remains, if other council members have a legitimate reason why they cannot be in attendance, will they be given the same ability to cancel a meeting or rearrange a meeting? ‸ We vote
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it. So are we voting on it here? um
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This is the purpose that um
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Okay. um I will make a motion that if any member of this dais, that any council member has a conflict, a pre uh an important meeting or event that they must be in attendance to and meet and and miss a council meeting, that there will be the option to plan a special council meeting to replace it so that they can still
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We have a motion on the floor. uh By Councilwoman
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You have that motion, Madam Clerk?
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card here, too, as well. ‸ So I'm not going to call the question.
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this agenda item and uh concerned about the town hall meetings. And I was glad to hear
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from the town halls with dates. And for those dates to be disclosed, um I do object to them being held,
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in lieu of the city town halls. I didn't hear a decision on when that state of the city would be held. And it does seem more applicable to have it at the beginning of the year is when people are thinking about the the state of the new year. So I'd like to read a part of my statement that I emailed to you earlier, uh where I said that the abolition of the town halls and where ‸ residents previously had the opportunity to interact with our city city officials away from this Roberts Rules of Order formality demonstrates a further erosion of city leadership and opportunity for citizen participation under the current CoCo administration. Now, you have not you have said that you're not denying them, that you're open to them, but I don't hear them actually being stated. And I think that there are something that matter to the CoCo residents. It is worth noting that
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places the proposed single city state of the event in lieu of the District Town
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Town Hall, further shorting
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their town hall. And which she was the only council member to host a town hall in 2022. And that's why people are especially fired up about this issue, is because they were erased in 2022. So now as we round the bend for 2023, we're not hearing anything promising that this is going to get replaced. And that this is going to happen and that we're going to have those meetings, which we welcome and appreciate. Further, the two February workshops are not defined as to what they are. And there's no community conversation event being held to hear from and interact with the residents of
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in an informal manner, preferably at the beginning of the year. For those interested in participating in a community conversation, I recommend the
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a community conversation on
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where they take in and listen to the residents before they decide their budget priorities and they have their host their workshops. I opened that up last year, but unfortunately,
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were ignored. that Our request was ignored. I request the quarterly town halls to be reinstated, that the city hosts one or more community conversation events to hear from us residents in an informal environment, in addition to the city town halls, and that
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the though these these matter. We want to get together with you outside of this environment. So hosting the town halls, claiming those dates, getting them on the calendar, we support that. In addition, having a community conversation event where you hear from us at the beginning of the year. I mean, they're amazing. So anybody in this room can go up to Titusville since
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is disinclined to do this event. But I had a great time. They spent three hours listening to the residents of Titusville before they decided their budget for the year. And
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I appreciate you listening to my comment prior to your vote. Thank you.
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just gonna ‸ call a question all in favor say hi hi nays i said unanimous
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moving on that was just for ‸ the motion yes yeah and so i still would like to see a state of
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the whole time
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you say ‸ you still
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need to actually approve the item that was just for her motion right to allow other council members to cancel items or um
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sorry can't request a special meeting
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when would the special March meeting be?
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they're After the 28th. March 30th, right? Yeah.
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the 24th and then the 24th through the 29th. So it would need to be that Thursday, which would be March 30th. You wouldn't be here that prior Thursday.
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that was made that in 2022 that only councilwoman Cost had a town hall.
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town hall, but I also had community meetings. And I believe uh Councilman
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had one as well. and And actually, you attended one of my meetings. And uh so I just wanted to make that clear. um It may not be labeled as town hall, but there were community meetings. thank
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you for the point of clarification. Now, we're ready for this particular issue. I'll make a motion to approve. Okay. I have a motion on
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for discussion. ‸ you turn
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um I think all my fellow council members are very encouraging and are very open to having these community meetings in town halls.
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in terms of looking forward to them. um Secondly, what we're voting on, so are we voting on
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third Tuesday in October, October 17th? So we're basically, it can't be that date because we're going to do a state of the city.
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We can we can look for another day in October for the state of the city.
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Okay. You want to amend? uh Do I need to amend my emotion to reflect that a different date or is that okay tentatively speaking that
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I'll change it to a
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on the floor with the unanimous consent, it can be uh modified. Otherwise, there needs to be a motion to amend the main motion. right
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I'll make a motion on that one particular thing to go ahead and make it in a meeting in October for the uh state of the city. city
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Yes, right. and And we'll send out notice proper notification and
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um mrs bowman i had a question for you uh just about one of the informational items dealing with the um local preference um
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we increased the local preference from three to five i mean i thought that it might help but apparently it is not helping at all so what what can be done to help the local preference for businesses to receive those bids is that should we increase it more um or is the
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compete with outside um companies i'm just trying to figure out what can we do to make the local preference work because apparently it's not working
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um it would appear that a lot of the work that we're requesting bids for is beyond the capability of companies that actually exist in the city of cocoa and or they're not submitting a bid and so we do use a um software program called vendor link where vendors can go and register to get bid notifications um we could possibly put that out on the uh city's website i know it is on there on one point but perhaps we can do a social media blast just to ‸ put it out there that um there is the opportunity to register so that they would get an automatic uh email notification based on their type of business um to try and attract more local businesses. Okay.
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um It's been brought to my attention. um that There was a card that was submitted at the same time um for miss Weaver. They left. Was there another card that was being withheld or was not submitted correctly? Okay. okay All right. Saying
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Thank you. um Reports? Mr. City Manager? Yes,
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sir. Mrs. Singer has a report. And then I just want uh
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review of traffic studies. um And then, Brian, I'll give you a report on the uh grants. Okay. um
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I just wanted to do a quick reminder that
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31st. We have two ‸ we have one during the day at 10 o'clock and then we also have one in the evening at 5 30.
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um So if anybody is interested or
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um we are offering these informational sessions. We'll have somebody from we venture will be at the meetings as well who can answer any questions that uh businesses might have that are looking to apply for this program. The applications will open February 1st. And
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for that program. um So we have updated information on the website to try to make it a little bit more clear about the program, um what there is to offer. And we will also be adding these informational sessions to help answer questions as well. And that's all I
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sir. Yep. They offer the business uh program, uh ‸ mentorship program for the Upstart program.
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Right. So ‸ what's a good contact when people ask me, hey, Blake, entrepreneurship,
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et cetera, et cetera,
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What's a good number? Because I don't want to burn you guys number up, which I have a
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Well, they can they can definitely call. um They can call me. That's uh 433-8685. um And we can get them the information that they need. Okay.
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Yeah, Mr. Smith, can you just talk about traffic studies and traffic concurrency and how that whole process works?
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Sure. I think what was mentioned earlier is that
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submit a traffic report.
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submit a traffic report. I think what was meant was
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that We don't have any applications for that, so
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submit a traffic study based on the methodology and the amount of trips that they're going to generate. If we have any pre-approved projects that have gone through the process and are under construction or or just have their site approval, that traffic information is included within that that prospective projects report. uh we We only include that once the projects have been approved.
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We don't include that for multiple projects that are in the queue because we don't know whether or not those are going to be approved by either planning, zoning, or council. So
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That's something that probably weekly uh my staff and myself are dealing with
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there. But essentially
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a minimum level of service for a roadway, which is attached to a maximum volume. And once that volume is triggered, then then you may have to enter into what's called proportionate fair share agreements ‸ where these new developments based on their peak hour traffic have to contribute to the widening of a roadway.
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entire widening of the roadway and at a 60 70 million
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project, we would never have that in our capital plan.
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So we're we're strategizing. um We're working on options there on how we can help relieve the traffic and and we'll continue to do so uh as as this
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kind of seems to
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I asked you a question on the design development for the 524. And could you tell the public what you told me about they don't have the funding?
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That's where they're kind of evaluating different types of options, pond locations,
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widths. that can't be completed until the design
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until the next phase is funded simply because then you're just going to have to go back and update it when it does get funded. So we're pushing really hard. We have some impact fee revenues. So when projects come on,
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police and fire. And we've got a pretty good balance there that we're trying to leverage with d.o.t to to fund the design which will allow them to finish that
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And once that design is funded, typically when you go to the priority listing for projects that gets ranked annually, you move higher to the list. um The state and TPO, every every grant agency, every funding agency wants shovel ready projects. uh Luckily for us, 524 has a lot of of great options in terms of safety enhancements that can be incorporated into it, which which makes it a lot more attractive to the federal agencies when they're when they're moving
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the grants also.
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‸ yeah uh Yeah.
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through their Indian River Lagoon funding program that we're awarded 888 000 for two projects. This is through their distribution of ARPA money. These are no match grants. And so the two projects are the
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and then the design of the Forest Avenue dry retention with uh
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those projects are completed, we're projecting around 2500 pounds of nitrogen and 450 pounds of phosphorus per year that would be removed from the Indian River Lagoon. That puts us pretty well on our target for what our state mandated removals are. I think it puts us around 85 90 percent by 2030. And and so we're
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And we're hoping another round of that funding comes out and uh so we can provide more projects to
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through that funding source. That's all I
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thing, Mr. Mayor, you were there at the uh Diamond Square CRA and in uh Councilman
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We talked about, um
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the Brevard Health Alliance, um submitting an appropriation request through Representative
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for the former uh ‸ Jolie smith dr joey Smith Community Center to actually convert that into a health clinic for the residents of Diamond Square. And so
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would be a feasibility study in a in a engineering uh sort of design um to actually figure out what the cost of such a facility
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uh is uh committed to that in partnership with uh Brevard uh Health Alliance. And if you're not familiar with the Brevard Health Alliance, they provide uh health services to the low income uh family medical, pediatrics, behavioral health, uh dental, um and then uh on-site pharmacy as well as other services there. So uh that's a good thing for the Diamond Square community. um The city owns the building in the uh Diamond Square Redevelopment District. I didn't ask for uh the council's permission to submit that appropriation request up to up through uh Representative
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And so I'll just take it uh that you have a consensus to do that unless you all tell me otherwise. That's it for us, sir.
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Good job, Mr. City Manager. Thank you very much, sir. uh Mr. City
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right, sir. Councilwoman
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um Mayor, I have gone first the last couple of months. um I think we should have somebody else go just to be, you know, in all fairness.
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They're all sort of gentlemen.
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this morning. um With some misinformation, um so I made a phone call to him this morning after his commission meeting we had a spirited discussion and so I want Chief Lamb to kind of explain
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because he felt that staff did not return an answer to him on the memo and as quick as he would like. Which is, the memo was from the
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and and so he was not really
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he made some remarks this
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asked Chief Lamb for a response today so we can make sure we have it on the record and I also let Commissioner Tobiah know that we will be doing this because he did it this morning so I want to make sure that we have a rebuttal for for that
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‸ sure thank you sir of course I'll always keep it professional because that's what the city of Cocoa does so I will just say that yes this
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city late last year,
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with the
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The information did come to the city of Cocoa
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and I had several questions with it so I called back to the county's representative on this and said you know my job is to protect citizens of the city of Cocoa and certainly our council and one of the things that worries me is there's nothing solidified in writing anywhere that says this new committee will be in somewhere else. You're dissolving one committee, but also in ‸ the same breath, you're saying it's being handled in a different situation, but you're not solidifying that in writing anywhere. And it certainly was a good time I understand why they did it but in order to protect us to say that we would still have a say so in that committee as a city of Cocoa where is that going to be solidified in writing? So we went back and forth with that with their representative for a little while and I said well until that's in writing somewhere I'm not comfortable with putting it before my city council to say, let's dissolve this other committee. There's no protection for our community or there are citizens so on December 6 I guess they didn't like that answer, so a letter was sent
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me to you guys to say, we want you to dissolve the committee. Please sign. And they finally did put into the bottom that this ‸ new committee will be solidified in writing
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so with that being in writing I felt more comfortable about putting that before city council. So as things would go, you know, there's a lot going on in December and certainly in January but this is on the agenda to come before you with the history on February 14th
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I think
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of me not to do my due diligence to ensure that we protect our public and we solidify that in writing and not by word of mouth
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thanks sir appreciate it yes sir and I
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still like Commissioner Tobias by the way
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so the next item I know city manager brought up something about the diamond square so I would like to get a consensus from council we had a great discussion today after we got done arguing with each other about increasing our time on our
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if you're unaware that
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our diamond square CRA sunset was cut and it was cut because of bad communication between our former city manager and
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with each other so they asked a lot of our time from our CRA because of that so my discussion today with him and along with a future discussion with Commissioner Goodson I would like for us to try to increase our time because he's aware that that CRA diamond square is the paper is the poster child for what CRA's are made for we're not like some other cities that may build high-rise with their CRA's or other things I he knows and we all know that diamond square CRA is is really really doing a good job with their finances and it's not a
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I don't know the exact number but so what your consensus I would like for city
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to work on that communication I don't know what that those years may look like I don't know if we're gonna ‸ ask for 10 but I think we need to ask for as much as we ‸ possibly can and then let him chop it down because he
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I think
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we should have it
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Yeah we have nine more years left.
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So we have until 2032 is
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and so I believe the Florida statutory requirement is 2041 is the the longest extension for CRA's at this time
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bring it to you guys if y'all cool with that okay yes good all right all right um you got to click over here all right um yeah so um Monday this past Monday was ‸ Martin Luther King day oh we had our our annual March um again with great family and people
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who are
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coming together to unite together
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to unite
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something in the front um along with uh
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um again I talked earlier about hey blue
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community members business owners along ‸ with our chief um and um officer Jason Collins
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um But we had some some good conversation, and everything wasn't all, you know, happy go lucky We had some really tough conversation, but um at the end of the day, we
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one another's opinions and our experiences, and we didn't discount anybody's experience, no matter if it was good or bad. uh ‸ This is another few, uh this is uh
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sponsors, and some other uh sponsors um that helped us out. uh Gave away free shirts and everything. As you can see, the shirts say Community Connection and Change.
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much of different places, again, with sharing different experiences with one another. Uh, Nick, this is our second step. Um, the first step was community reading to children, which chief did a good job of blowing bubbles with all the kids and stuff. Um, so, so that was the first step. The second step was
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which this, this is for us that happened Saturday. The third step is a group think session, um, to discuss again,
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do things better to help the community because it's a shared responsibility. It's not all about just the police. The police cannot
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We have to come together as a collective, um, to, to make, you know, make Cocoa what it is. Um, uh, again, it's our group photo.
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and again, this shows,
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different decisions that we make and, um, which is okay.
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It's about coming together for, for the greater good of the community. Um, I don't mind being a target and this is why we lay our life on the line for the public. This
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but at the same time, this is why we do what we do. So we can come together to make positive change, um, for our community. So again, I commend the chief for being open, uh, for taking some darts at times that, that particular night. Uh, but, but it shows that, you know, sometimes being uncomfortable can bring success and that's what we need to do. We need to have uncomfortable conversations. Uh, so again, chief, thank you. Thank you to, uh, officer Collins for being so open, uh, discussing many things that again, we're not aware of that police may go through. Uh, again, that's the March. Um, and that's my Android. I'm sorry.
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It's fuzzy. Uh, I can't afford an
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iPhone right now. So,
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uh,
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correct?
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Oh yeah. My flyer. All right. Um, so February 20th, mark your calendar. There is a STD and AIDS awareness date
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uh, February 20th at Jolie Smith, uh, center.
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Again, these things are things that affect our community on a daily basis. So we cannot run from it. We cannot hide from these conversations. Uh, these things we need to talk about.
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uh, different things that we're going to bring in. Hopefully we get chief lamb involved as well. Uh,
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a wound care, um, kind of like a symposium to discuss, knowing gunshots happen, when people get shot, how, how, how should a resident, um, help that particular person before the ambulance arrives? Uh, so that's something that's going to be the next step, uh, after this event.
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to, um, work with the community again to bring positive information, uh, to them. So I think that's it.
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Yes,
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All right. Councilwoman. We have a PowerPoint presentation.
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Okay. Do I have, uh, to move the slides?
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Or you can move them either way. Um,
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Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
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commission meeting today because they got the plan recommendations from the citizen oversight committee, but just to bring it up here because there's been a lot in the newspaper lately, uh, you know, the half cent sales tax is, is generating anticipated to generate that 550 million over 10 years.
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they're
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probably another hundred or,
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and more in process, but these projects take a long time to design and permit and, um, particularly with the, the muck. So two thirds of the dollars are, are going towards pollution prevention, essentially two thirds, septic ‸ sewer, the stormwater projects. Um, and recently the government, um, the governor kicked in, um, talking about his 3.5 billion for protection of water resources. And it includes a hundred million dollars annually for the priority projects in the lagoon. So we are leveraging a lot of dollars here. And I was just going to add to this, this might be a good time to have on our radar screen to be thinking about the 750 septics,
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cocoa wastewater treatment service area.
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got a lot of calls on, um, the meeting last week, of course, a couple of things.
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on. It was a quick vote. And the one thing that we missed that I was not in a good state of mind to address, but,
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language that was taken from the agenda item provided by staff. Um, Um, we didn't address this. Uh, I think we are, you know, we were at that point in the meeting where we couldn't do much more, but, who or how will we address this? Can we revisit that? Or is staff working on a way that we will be able to monitor and enforce rental rate restrictions? I mean, first of all, the afford,
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got in office the first time that I was called by someone from the Clear Lake Isles, uh, project that the city participated in. I think that was affordable senior housing. After six months, the rent had been raised and the complaint was, what do we do about it? And I remember at that time,
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remember vaguely, I remember a conversation with Charlene, but our hands were tied. Um, so, I want to make sure that we're not caught in that position again. And I know, um, staff had this concern. So is this something that we can agree, we can ask staff to think about, bring back some potential solutions so that these affordable housing projects that we're approving that fall into this category, um, um, because there isn't state funding involved, um, that we maintain them as affordable housing stock.
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so So again, as you noted, those are staff comments and and that that is not a completed project. That was the first step in a multi-step process.
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Okay, so that's something that will come back and something that we would be aware of in any other projects like this that come forward. And then the other thing that other item from last week that was really concerning was the appointments and I don't want to get into a lot of drama I went back and listened to it again but there are facts here and that at the very least, recognizing these facts may keep us from making the same mistakes in the future. And the fact one is that we had agreed that we wanted to geographically representative, fair and equitable, diverse board. In fact, the mayor said we want them demographically diverse and geographically diverse. There were nine applicants, one walking on non-resident. So we had ten applicants, five men, five women. That's a fact.
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an alternate.
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nine voting members, one is a woman. Two members are African-American.
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have property interests in district one in fact seven the
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deputy mayor
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appointments so we ended up
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Can you move it forward?
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this spread which is neither demographically diverse nor geographically diverse we have five representatives from district one if we
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with deputy mayor's appointment I think councilman dials appointment and mine we would have had four women of the nine voting members
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That I should have shouted point of order and I didn't But at this point we can see the results And we can correct this Because I did not get a nominee Deputy Mayor Hearn did not get to choose although his ended up being staying in the alternate position and still sitting there
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Pardon me Justin Simpson Yes
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I don't know Justin I met him once but yes
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He was not my nominee
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district four No
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he's not he's going to be in district two
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Yeah
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which is in district two No
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It is in district two You can look it up
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he told me Okay
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He lives in
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just
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He was living in district four But at any rate He was living in district four and then we
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redistrict
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he ended up in district two At any rate this is
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the
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spread And the fact is we agreed to a process and then we didn't follow it
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So in essence you're going to have three members in your district
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No because I did not I did not nominate Ron Chabot
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we redistricted he ended up in district two now And when he moves to his grandmother's house he will be in district two
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Well then he needs to come and clarify that for me
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Okay ‸ Okay I will make the motion to give you the opportunity The
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to go according to the process that each of us agreed to We'll make a motion to rescind what we did And go by the process that we agreed to so that each member has A has an appointee And if you want to be the first one to Make an appointment that would be fine, but that's my motion and I wait for a second Thank you
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Discussion ‸ So the only issue that I had that particular night was dealing with
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I sent a Either I called or emailed one another ‸ to the clerk office about it because on the application It did not it did not indicate that he owned a piece of property in the city limits So I was accurate in in that part, but once
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a particular piece of property my argument was null and void because ‸ Even though again on our application that we receive it did not Indicate that at all and we again it was walked on and we didn't have time to kind of go through that process um, but I think this this speaks to a bigger issue where When the mayor makes a motion or is strategic
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whatever he chooses to do I think we have to be savvy enough to stand up for whatever that is
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but I ‸ didn't even Do a point of order right so i'm speaking for myself as well But when I made that um discovery that mr
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banquet
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did own A property in the city of coco I don't have nothing else to argue about because
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on that and said, hey, we made a Council um
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but we didn't do that
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night and i'm speaking for myself as well But we did not do that. So I don't want to um complain about it now Decision was made, in my opinion, and Again, we have to be up on our toes. We have to be prepared When the mayor or anyone makes a motion we need you to be prepared and ready to go There's no excuses once we make a decision that's in my opinion And that's again i'm speaking for me as well because I was not I did not question the mayor. I did not do with my due diligence and I could have done that But I did not so I have to stand by it
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one for sure um Yes, i'm
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But that wasn't you know my thought process going into this process. I did not look and really see who was From where I just want to get the most qualified people that that I thought some people I didn't know You know, but at the end of the day once we make a decision I think we need to again be prepared make arguments Be strategic about what we do and You know leave it at
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it
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so i'm that's my discussion on that
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My concern is if you don't have your way you power I've been on here many times three two or four one Many times especially the parking scenario Where
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pound branch And I didn't go back and bring it back and complain um, it just here it is We do our due diligence and that's my point if you don't get your way then you get upset and then you want to bring it back
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Mary you will not scold me or disrespect me on this dais
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You know
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um Maybe this this something for staff to consider, you know, maybe we need To define and so they can know exactly because he put a home address And so
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he
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put two
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And it was district one he put on there, but he put district one for county commission district one
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So maybe something we can add on the application to say hey, um
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And we can put a line
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Or or plat number or whatever it may be
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we can we can definitely add
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there ‸ there I mean,
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Yes. Yes. Yes, because I again, I it was walked on I seen it. I'm like, okay I'm looking at district one. I'm like, no That's in that's in district one county not city. So that'll be good to add that. Thank you
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Chairs gonna
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Any nays? I said
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Wait So we're bringing it back.
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No
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That was
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don't because I've done it for other people so State
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the motion.
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I'm sorry, ma'am. Please state
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The motion was that Oh,
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the motion was to rescind what they did at the past meeting for planning and zoning and to go by the process that you
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So that each member has an appointee That's what I got
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weeks ago All right. So now I will okay
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favor
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by
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saying aye
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nays?
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Okay
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What
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happened? Yeah. Okay, so that brings us to a discussion of our core values. You know, we
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already,
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earlier, the discussion around having town halls and our openness, that community engagement, I think that what happened at the last meeting, what happens on this
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it shouldn't be like a football game or
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I think the public expects us to just have robust deliberation on issues, not to try to trick one another into getting
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the
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that's concerning. Well, it certainly happened fast. I mean, we agreed to a process and then in midstream, something happened. But at
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any
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rate, integrity, respect,
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I think that,
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we have staff that, for the most part, the professionalism, the excellence is there. And accountability. You know, to some degree, all of these things, you're held accountable. For us, it's the elections. For staff, it's evaluations. Staff are evaluated by their directors. Directors are evaluated by
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manager. And we, by contract, evaluate the city manager. Now, after the letter that we received from Ms. Lordy,
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the city manager explained that, in fact,
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previously, with Dr. P. Early on, there were no evaluations. She was only here two years. And with John, there were, I guess, a couple of evaluations. And one was as long as three years.
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mean, what, I'm not, I think that was to say that it doesn't matter, but it's a contract. So, I mean, I think we have to know if that doesn't matter in the contract, what else doesn't matter in the contract? Because we are a year and four months beyond when the first evaluation by contract would have taken place. And I'm glad that you have these conversations with the city manager. I would like to have these conversations with the city manager and feel like we're moving forward.
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of using the same evaluation form that the
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uses as a model. I'm open to doing it anyway. ‸ That is a part of the contract that it has to be an agreement between council and the city manager. But I think it needs to be addressed. Either that or you've got to amend the contract.
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So,
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you know, I really did not want to bring this up in a public meeting. Because look at that accountability. It says citizens, staff, and city council. One of the big fears up here is something like this will be hijacked for special interests. And that's not what I want. An evaluation is a tool. It's a tool to make things better. And so, you know, we do not want it used that way. But the issue does need to be addressed. This is,
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you know, and I was hoping we were going to do it privately. And
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that's why I brought it up with the city manager a couple of times.
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So,
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‸ that can either be addressed privately or, you know, but it needs to be addressed. So, I expect to be having that conversation again then. And I have one more slide. And that is that the Zen room, which has provided Zen for more than 15 years in Cocoa Village. Probably 300 to 400 women that have taken classes there is closing. Their rent was doubled during that building right behind where the hotel was going to go. And I just want to say thank you to Kathy Johnson for providing that solace to the ‸ community. I think
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everyone's
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really going to miss the Zen room. So,
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And that's the end of my report.
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It was a lot of fun to be in the
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This is the third time I did it. The first two times I kind of cheated.
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I had this bright idea of parking my car at City Hall and walking down there. And when I saw
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I should have gotten a golf cart and came back. Because I already practiced once. It was a great time. Everybody enjoyed the speeches. And I'm glad I got to attend. We got a lot of things we need to work out in the city of Cocoa. And we're going to get them done.
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And
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when we go to the workshops is when I'm going to go ahead and give more grievances and more points of order, if you want to call it. Those things I've seen and noticed. I think that's a better format to do it in here instead of the council.
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staff is doing a great job. ‸ Every time I've asked for something or needed a question, it's been answered immediately or next day. But I've always got my answers. So I have no complaints with staff ‸ all across the board. Thank you.
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I want to ‸ start off by informing the public that there's going to be
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27th. And
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it'll
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be members from the community taking time out today to read books to some of the kids.
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come out. And
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So that's some positive news. Something I've been dealing with in District 2, for those that's familiar with 800 North Fisk, it's a condominium located off of Fisk. And there's a
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their condos. And those folks are either disabled or veterans. So they're on fixed incomes. And right now they're faced with an issue where the HOA is required or mandating that they have to come up
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of the year to replace their roof. It's a real tough situation. And, you know, something I've been working with with those folks is trying to come up with a solution is looking like we're going to probably have to try to come ‸ raise some money from some donors out in the community.
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So for anyone listening out and you're willing to lend a hand or have some expertise to help those residents out, I ask that you reach out to me and I can put you in contact.
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past couple of years, crime in that area has kind of diminished.
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We're starting to see a few incidents starting to come back up.
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there just to observe and check out the area and I saw a Coco PD officer patrolling the area. So PD are being responsive to those complaints going on over there. We're working with the property manager to try to handle some of those complaints as well. Something else I want to talk about is the crime.
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In regards to our crime rate that has decreased over the past couple of years since the new chief has been in office.
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stats are out there. There's been a decrease. You're never going to stop crime 100%. I don't care who you are. ‸ There's going to always be crime. What the goal of our police officers are to catch those back bad actors and get them off the streets. And I think they're doing a good job at that. So I commend the chief and all those police officers that work for us.
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murder rate. I don't know how long any of you have
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for a while, you know at one point in time things
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were
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really bad here. I believe last was it last year, 2022 that we recorded. There was two murders. And
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the
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year before that we recorded zero.
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2022.
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had zero murders. And that's pretty big. And I would put those numbers against any of our neighboring cities. And you go to pull their stats, check your stats. Like I said, this is not saying that we're not going to have crime. That's the police officers job to catch those bad actors when those crimes are cured.
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reason, doesn't care about the crime, the shootings that's
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And what my comment would be to those folks, my philosophy on how to deal with those, it's hard to change a grown person's or a career criminal's mind. But what I like to do is start with the kids. I like to do early prevention.
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form of way has been doing. I've done a numerous of community events with the children. The council as a whole has donated more or rewarded more money to the pal than ever, who also specializes in early crime prevention. So, when you
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are you doing? Are you participating in those events? Every year I hold a anti-gun violence event. It's coming up in June. Feel free to come out there and volunteer to help out ‸ and get involved. And that's
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As your friendly mayor
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to all of our employees.
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Two things I would like to say. Mount Moriah African Methodist Episcopal Church. The
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And he also submitted Mother Melissa Moore, who was very prominent in the AME Church. And they're acknowledging her positive accomplishment, the Queen Mother of our Zion. And he spoke on behalf. He was the keynote speaker at the Martin Luther King March, which everyone participated. But ‸ let me say this to you. If things don't go your way, firm up.
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Convey your way of thinking.
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back and say, Hey, can we revisit this again? Can I get this way? Point fingers at it. If you do your due diligence, then it will prevail. Then you will make a well-informed decision. Because knowledge is power. And it may not always go your way. As I have learned for 15 years
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And stand with our city.
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And everyone has the right to speak their mind. But I
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And I believe in our city. And I believe in our city manager. And the staff. And sometimes ‸ it's not the staff or the city manager.
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Chair,
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Motion to adjourn.
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