If you others, meaning council and staff, schedule is busy. So I'm asking that we invest instead of six hours, four hours, let's break it up two before lunch and then two after lunch. So I'm asking that you all consider that and I'll just go around and get
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that?
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on, sir. Yes, sir. Only thing I
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come for that on-street dining. If we can have that conversation when they get here, if possible. I don't know how we're going to be in the conversation, but they're going to be coming at ‸ around that time, 1115, 1130.
Okay. And
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items we do not address will be addressed in March as well. Okay. ‸ Yeah, ‸ they just wanted to be here just to be
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Yes. And I also have an issue with the next date that I believe was tentative on March 7th. So we'll get a chance to discuss that as well.
Okay. Deputy Mayor Hearn, sir. I'm fine with it. Okay. Thank you, sir. City Manager, I know you're talking. ‸ Okay.
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of. We will have
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and
to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Salud. Mr. Coyle. Bow to your head.
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we want to thank you for this day for allowing us to assemble here today. Please give us the power and the strength to do what's
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Give them the good knowledge and wisdom that you know that they need in order to make the best decision for this community.
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Amen.
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Sure. Mayor Blake.
Present.
Deputy Mayor Hearn.
Present.
Council Member Dial. Here. Council Member Goins. Here. Council Member Koss.
Here.
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City Manager Witten. Thank you.
Okay.
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We do have an agenda in front of us.
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says public settings, where they can voice their concerns.
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Point of order, could I make a comment on the agenda?
Go ahead, ma'am. Yeah.
Yeah. The, um, there are several points in here where we are being asked to vote on and make decisions that are multi-million dollar, for example, the parks plan being a multi-million dollar program over many years that will impact us. I'm going to read from page 60 of the Florida Municipal Officials Manual. And these, of course, are the best management practices for legislation for municipal officers. And it's under workshops. It says workshops are not formal legislative meetings. Therefore, no official action can be taken. To allow some understanding of the status of a discussion of items, unofficial straw votes may be taken to determine the sense ‸ the council concerning each item. These votes are not binding on the council members at a subsequent legislative meeting when formal votes are taken. But they do serve as a reasonable indicator of council sentiment for council members, staff, press, and the public. So I would ask that, um, that we not be put in a position of after only having 48 hours to review document that will impact us by millions of dollars.
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But in terms of the master plan itself, whereas I applaud staff for putting together the master plan ‸ for seeing ‸ the importance of viewing these projects within a plan.
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without, this is such a minimal citizen involvement and outreach. I think that we would regret that in the long run. And so I am hoping that we will not, that whereas we can make our feelings known, the actual official votes on these things will be done in a legislative meeting, which are our council meetings.
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that we can give our opinions, but that final decisions on the legislative items be at a formal legislative meeting, the council meetings. I ask for a second.
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Okay, we have a motion
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Yes. And
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So
I don't want to bind us to that, that we don't make any decisions because I, there may be items in here where it may be time sensitive. I'm not saying that we have to make a decision on this whole master plan today or agree to it today, which
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But I just don't want to bind ‸ ourselves to not being able to take action today.
‸ I will amend my motion for something that isn't, if we have a time sensitive matter.
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But if there's something that really is critically time sensitive,
that
we'd be allowed to vote on it.
I would agree to that.
Okay. Here's my concern. If something happens, if we did vote on it, depending on how this vote turns out, you can
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And that is the reason why we give the city manager direction and the staff. That's the reason why. So there is a, an opportunity to rectify, amend or make an adjustment. If an unknown incident may take place, something major out of the ordinary storm, earthquake, whatever, or something major that would have a direct economic impact. That's the reason why you can always amend and make the proper adjustments. And that's why we have outstanding staff. And that's the reason why I feel like we can make adjustments ‸ if deemable and necessary.
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Yeah, I just, I
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specific on
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thing that you feel like we don't need to vote on and just make that in your motion for those things? Like you said, the master plan for the parks or maybe just be specific because they are, they're things that may not be on the agenda that we may discuss.
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Um, I know, you know, for me, you know, I took off work today. So I don't, I don't, when I come here, I come here to work.
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I know for me, social media, uh, the city has put it out on social media.
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elected to do their job.
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So I, yes, we have minimal today, but if we do a workshop next month and say it's minimum again, what we're going to say the same thing again, we don't have a lot of people here.
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That's what, that's my quick line. Okay.
I'm not arguing. My main point is not that we don't have a lot of people here. My main point is that as a best practice, the Florida League of Cities says you should not be making decisions in these workshops. These are an opportunity for us to talk informally. The actual decision, you know, is that a legislative meeting, a council meeting. Now, of course, so as the mayor said, we can go back and change things. Well, I don't have the exact quote, but at the last meeting, there was objection. It was either the last
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the meeting before that, when I wanted to go back and change something. So it's not quite that easy. And when we're talking about a piece of legislation, like a master plan, this will impact our city for decades. This could be the reason that someone chooses to live here or not.
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And I don't know about you, but life got in the way and I didn't have a full 48 hours to look at this.
Yeah. So I'm not arguing that point. I think my, my point is just make, make that motion, but make it, maybe make it specific on the thing that you feel like we should not vote on. I wish I knew what I was,
okay. And my only argument with that is I don't know exactly what's going to come up in this meeting.
Okay.
‸ But I, I am willing to amend the motion. I'd like to amend the motion that if there is something that's critically time sensitive, that we make the decision here.
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have gone through the agenda. I have not read all the documentation and again, 48 hours for a multimillion dollar plan over decades.
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comfortable voting on this today.
That is your perspective, correct?
Yes. Okay,
good. All right. We have a motion on the floor.
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we'll be saying aye. Aye. Nay. Nay. Nay. Let the record reflect
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Thank you. Mr. Mayor and council members, I think we presented the parks master plan to you last year. And so we never got, um, an approval of the master plan and what we're calling the planning and priorities document. So we're bringing that back to you, uh, for you to take another look at that and to actually, uh, ultimately get an approved, uh, document out there.
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Again, you've seen these things before. So, and I believe that was last year. I think with all due respect to the Florida League of cities that, um, a lot of their best practices are, are, uh, are, um, preempted by your policies and procedures. I think somewhere in your, um, operating procedures, you can take action at workshops. Um, ‸ and let me, let me give you the best example of, um, me trying to be transparent with you guys.
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assign
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And so,
uh,
I have that on the agenda today and, and that is, um, millions of dollars. And, and, and I told you all, uh, from the beginning that I'm not comfortable, uh, as a city manager assigning out millions of dollars in fund balances.
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That's probably one that we need to get to today because. Mrs. Bowman is, um, trying to wrap up the financial statements. And so she needs to do that as, as quick as possible. I have some recommendations. Um, you know, certainly getting to that today would be great. Getting to that on Tuesday. Um, if we don't, if you guys don't, um, want to approve that, um, or accept my recommendations, that would be fine too.
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that we, that we need. But again, you have seen the parks master plan and the planning and priorities document before.
Uh,
you, you remember at the one workshop, we had extensive discussion on the planning and priorities document. And so we have a lot of. Can,
can I ask a question? Uh, let, let him
finish ma'am.
Please. Well, this is specifically about what he just said.
But let him finish ma'am. Because I will let you finish.
So we have a lot of items on the agenda.
We
didn't anticipate getting to them all today. I can take them. I think we're at a point where we can take them in any order that you want to take them in.
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approval where we think we need your approval.
If you have a question, please raise your hand or acknowledge me so I can recognize you.
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Yes, sir.
I
can take a
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You said that we had seen the parks master plan before. I believe you
have.
I have the one that I received the last time, the master plan. This was the one that was done by the, um, consulting firm.
No, we came back and made some changes to that. That is, this is a revision of that. So, so last year, I think we talked about the parks master plan. I think it was at a, it
was at one of the workshops and we did provide copies.
But nevertheless, we're here today. And, and, and if you guys are not comfortable approving that, I'm, I'm fine going forward.
Could you send me a copy of that too? Could you
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Because I thought
it was pretty thorough.
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Oh, you
haven't changed anything?
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So again, we'll, we'll, we'll walk you through that. That, that that's, that's millions of dollars and
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it all has to be funded.
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and we'll, we'll explain to you the, the intent on, on the formatting and how we laid it out there. So, so. Whoever has the clicker, go to the, to the agenda slide for me. So today, again, wanted to talk about the parks master plan and update you on the projects.
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you guys to give us some direction on a, on a couple of things with regards to the projects there. We have the planning and priorities plan review and approval. Um, again, you guys had a extensive discussion on that last year at the workshop. Um, so, and, and let me give you who will walk you through these there. So, Bryant, uh,
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walk you through number one, Samantha will walk you through ‸ number two, and then on a three and four,
um,
Charlene will walk you through those. And so those are the
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ordinance, the on street, uh, or slash outdoor dining. Uh, and then this ‸ Bowman will walk you through the budget overview and I'll probably take over, um, on the council priorities and the fund balance. Um, obviously, um, you, you, you, you're required to have citizen input and citizen, uh, participation at your meetings there. So, so a lot of things to cover.
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If you want to change that order, um, just, just let me know. We can, we can, uh, we can shake things up that way.
If there's any modification, I'll be able to be the on street, uh, outdoor dining so that individuals from that area could come and have that opportunity.
Okay. And we can stop at any time and jump to that. ‸ Okay. Can
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If
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can they speak under that item?
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hear from a citizen.
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if they're under the one minute, you know, I got to
put them
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Yes. Okay.
Because
there again, um, we have other obligations. I got city related.
Okay.
Is that it?
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Do you have your hand up?
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Okay. What do we, what do we. He was talking about having people speak on each item. If, if they, ‸ if they choose to, if they choose to.
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Um, my question was for, uh, attorney Garganese that when, if we are voting on making a decision on something, don't we have to have public input? We actually allowed within a workshop because it's the workshop to do anything.
I mean, it depends on the, the fluidity of this meeting. Is there going to be decisions that are
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Okay.
Okay. That's fair. That's fair. That's what you were saying, right? Yes, sir. Okay. That was the purpose. I knew it didn't work. Okay.
And for the record, um, if there's a motion while it is being discussed, um, we won't call the question until after the public speak.
Thank you.
Okay. All right, see. All right, so Samantha, go back to the, the beginning of the, uh,
the, uh,
and so, you know, this is actually obviously designed to be a discussion between council, uh, and staff and, and, uh, for purposes of giving, uh, staff direction on, on the items that are on the list there. A lot of these things you all asked us to bring back. So as we start out the workshop, I just wanted to remind you guys that, uh, right now, um, we, we are, um, in the middle of
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uh, workshop at the two, uh, uh, pre meetings for that.
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about the program, ask any questions they had about the program and we've gotten a few applications so far, but we're just short 20 days into it and we still have another 20 days left before things are due. So I think we've gotten a lot of phone calls and a lot of good feedback.
So, yeah, so that's, that's currently underway.
And
again, the good thing about that is that this is our second or third year.
I
think it's our second year of doing that. And it's expanded, uh, to how many, how many applicants?
Yeah. Five total grants. Yeah.
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city. Uh, next slide please. And then also currently, uh, real time going on today is a job fair, uh, over at the, uh, Dr. Jolie Smith community center. Um, fascinating thing about that is, is that there are 20 agencies over there in addition to city government, um, and all looking for, you know, talent. Um, and we all have the same, same issues there. We have a, have a hard time recruiting and retaining people there.
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of things there, but, but we are in the same predicament as the other law enforcement agencies. Um, and so that, I, I
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that, but nonetheless, hopefully he can get some good applicants and we can get some good applicants there.
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If you look up any municipality, including the county, every department is hiring for officers right now, because no one's at full capacity for officers. Yeah. And
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even in the, even in the fund balance discussion there, we, we're, we obviously our first responders in it
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as police departments there, you know, uh,
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and, and certainly, um, Mrs. Bowman has, uh, issues, uh, hiring, um, professionals on the finance side. So, so we're, we're all suffering, um, in the various disciplines that, that we have here. I, I, I, I wanted to, on the next slide there, we're gonna, we're gonna roll out our crime statistics for the year that just finished up. And so, um, again, you know, crime statistics are,
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great news about our, our crime statistics. And so this is dual purpose there. This is to, to, to tell you about how we finished up the year, but it is also to address the misinformation that's out there. And in some respects, actually, again, put them on notice that what they're actually putting out that affects your brain. You know, I mean, when, when you talk about, uh, the misinformation on the crime statistics, that affects, uh, economic development, that affects the quality of life there. So, all the things that we're trying to do there, and you'll see that the information that's out there is just not accurate there.
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this out, uh, after you, you guys look at it today. We'll, we'll have it out there on all the social media outlets and everywhere we post stuff up there.
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Cocoa Police Department. I'm responsible for managing the criminal investigations division, which includes crime analysis. Today, I'm excited to share some great news with our residents, business owners, and visitors about crime reduction in our city. ‸ I hope this will also clear up some misleading and incorrect information on our crime statistics that is being presented by certain individuals. I want to first give you a little background on this data and how it is collected and submitted. Our crime data is collected through officer reports and documented in our records management systems database. Our records division is required to carefully review all reports and make sure crimes are accurately reported to the state as required by law. Each year, we submit this data as part of the uniform crime report to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The state reviews and certifies this data. In addition, our crime analyst, who is certified through the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, is trained to review the latest crime statistics, identify trends, and develop strategies to determine what is driving criminal activity and how to effectively deploy resources to drive crime down. Due to the great efforts of the men and women of the Cocoa Police Department, crime is being driven down. In 2022, we experienced another decrease in the overall crime rate in the city of Cocoa by 4.1% compared to 2021. This is the second consecutive year we have seen a decrease in the crime rate in our community. For the first time that I can remember in my 27-year career, we had no murders. Reported property crimes are down 7%.
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Larceny is down 2.8%. ‸ Vehicle theft is down 21%.
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2022. Sexual assault and rapes were down 66.7%. Robberies were down 17.1%. And as I mentioned earlier, there were no murders last year in our city. That is a 100% decrease. Unfortunately, because we had an increase in aggravated assaults, the rate of violent crime increased by 18.9% in 2022 compared to 2021. A closer look at the aggravated
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shows that these are not random crimes. In a majority of these cases, the victim knew the offender. It is important to note that of the reported aggravated assaults, we made arrests in 68% of these cases.
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aggravated assault crimes. Let me end by saying we wish we could prevent all crime. But we know that is unrealistic. We want you to know that when crime does occur, we are working hard to ensure
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total arrests were up 24% from the previous year.
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to have a positive impact on reducing crime. We have a number of initiatives in place, like our Chiefs Community Walks and Watch Programs, along with our continued community engagement efforts and outreach. This gives citizens the opportunity to become more involved and take ownership of the safety and security of their own neighborhoods where they live, work, and play. We have also taken advantage of new technological opportunities to enhance our crime-fighting efforts, including the addition of officers on electric bikes to be more visible in our community. These efforts are already yielding positive results. When we work together, we can continue to reduce crime and improve the quality of life in our community.
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So those are the real numbers there.
And
again, as Lieutenant De La Torre said, and he's in charge of the unit that handles crime statistics. Those are FDLE certified. FDLE certified analysts that was here before. Chief Collier came and again has to certify through the department to FDLE those numbers there. And so, you know, you can see where they're down, you can see in the one category, aggravated assaults, which is not the entire violent crime category, that those are up there. And he explained the nuances involved in aggravated assaults there. So, so just thought it real important to have the correct information out there. Um, um, so that again, we can, we can again, um,
um,
recapture the narrative because again, I, I think that that sort of stuff does affect, uh, what we're trying to do on all sorts of levels.
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so the aggravated assaults, that includes domestic assaults, is it right? And is it the majority of the aggravated assaults are domestic?
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lower than the actual, the regular aggravated assaults.
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So you have some that's domestic violence related, but the majority of them are just friend, neighbor, somebody that they know.
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and then, uh, ultimately some project updates.
Yep. So in, uh, 2020, I think you all know, we, we, we started with the, the parks and open space master plan. And, and that plan gave a, probably like a macro level overview of our parks, um, talked about connectivity canopy and, and how to, you know, really interconnect the parks across the city. We felt that that plan didn't address some of the immediate needs within the parks, um, which would be the reason you want to go to the park and the reason you want to connect the park. You know, just general items like drainage, lighting sidewalks, uh, within those individual parks. So we worked with Brevard County parks and recreation and also interviewed a lot of the park end users.
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And, and then you can tie that to the overall macro level with the, the master plan.
And if you remember last year or when last we talked about this, we, we thought it, we thought it needed to be an infrastructure, you know, because again, kids need, uh, uh, playable surfaces, you know?
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before you can talk about any of the, uh, any of the, uh, ancillary, uh, items there. So, so we are in most instances, our parks, uh, conditions are such to where we, we need to go back to addressing the foundation, you know, bleachers,
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scoreboards. You know, just those basic things that
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up a park, you know, go ahead. Brian. You can go to the next one.
And so within that plan, you know, we have our, our summary and overview. We have the evaluation of our existing conditions within parks, as ‸ well as the needs within those.
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So as part of the initial part with the summary and introduction, uh, you know, we, we talk about
the,
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And I think you all know some of the history from previous meetings.
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the state basically because the state and the area felt like there was a lack
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So that created that administrative board that encompasses those areas. There's a number of parks within that.
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We have Carl Anderson, Manor, Stradley, Joe Lee, Gilmore, provost and Juni Rios. Um, what, what the summary also talks about and what really has impacted the parks within that, that administrative area is that year 2000 referendum that failed. And, and that would have been an initial investment.
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and improvements.
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referendum did pass in, in the other districts.
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to others. That, that was a huge moneymaker for them. Um, one example, uh, talking with the county that
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15 years ago. Whereas we just now did it and that was primarily city funded. That would have been funded by the referendum in its entirety at that time.
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plan gets into as well. You know, based on the needs that we need, we, we have to figure out how to fund those, you know, whether it's grants, whether it's a impact fee or, or pursuing another referendum as well. And, and let me, let me
jump in there and in the district for, uh, funding in the recreational district, that's a, that's a three member, uh, recommending board.
Bryant sits on it for the city. It's the
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The assistant. Assistant county
manager there.
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to the, the board of county commissioners on how the dollars from the pot are allocated, uh,
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um, how the county operates our parks there, but we still are, uh, the, the city. That's a part of that, uh, district that is getting more money out of the pot than we're, than we're actually putting into the pot. So, so I always want you to be mindful of that, that, that the, the tax revenues that are collected from
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um, are less than what we're actually normally, uh, being allocated on an annual basis there. But again, it is a series of discussions at a staff level, voting at a staff level recommendation to the, to the county commission on how that, uh, part is allocated.
Council and, uh,
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I just had a question.
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initiated by the county or was that a local municipality that pushed for that? That,
that was, that was, that was, uh, that was, uh, probably county and, and, uh, you know, the local municipalities were, were also, you know, agreeable to putting that, uh, question to the vote.
I only
ask that just to, uh, see what would be the feasibility of maybe next election.
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would be something that, uh, could get pushed back up on, uh, ‸ ballot. I guess that went out on the ballot. Correct.
Yeah. We could try to get more information on that. It would really be county
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Yeah.
And I'd have to talk to Anthony about if the question
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there may still need to be some county approval there. But I think you're talking about just
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So I'm not sure how that works there, but
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‸ It was, it was a, uh,
a
countywide referendum back in 2000, which included the
cities.
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district four is what Rockledge, Cocoa, um,
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Is that it, sir?
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Yeah. My question was on the, um, and maybe I'll just, it was
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way to read it. And I got the impression that the emphasis here was,
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organized sports for the, um, the ball field versus the individual users. Because I know that just when it said that, um, these represent the majority of the users
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the city parks and facilities, and it probably is a majority of them.
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know, just my neighbors that I have, you know, many people use the parks many times with their individuals. So they're numbers. ‸ So are we, are we probably waiting this? Because there's no ‸ sense of how we're prioritizing.
Yeah. So as part of our interview process and working through the county, you're right. The goal was to hit the majority of users. So, you know,
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that's, that's the vast majority at any of these regional parks. The league play is really the vast majority. And I, and I think whenever you see improvements at regional parks, you, you almost see the trickle down of they're not just going to redo a field. They're, they're then going to add a playground because they know parents are there with kids. Then they're going to add the walking path. The other amenities kind of follow those improvements typically. And, but you know,
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large scale improvements at each of those marks.
Okay. And I understand we have two large athletic fields. Um,
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but we understand the parks have more value, have value beyond even just, you know, playing sports. Yes.
‸ And the master, the master plan took that into consideration as well that they did surveys and interviewed and
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a committee that took that to the combined plan has both of those in there.
Well, and I, and I think
I didn't read that. I read that in the summary from our notes,
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of course I was on that original. Yeah.
Well, but in terms of answering
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It is, it is addressing the individual needs of the individual parks because you'll see benches and you'll see bike racks and trails and you'll see
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Those are not related to league play. Those are addressing the core needs of that individual park and that park may service a league in certain instances as a regional park. But in a lot of instances, it's just your, I forget the term you use, passive, maybe neighborhood park or whatever we're calling those there. So, so, so this thing builds the infrastructure based on the use that's at the park.
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Um, no, that's it.
Thank you very much. Anything else, Mr. City Manager? No, sir.
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we do go through each individual park and, and, and talk about the park, the size, just give an overview of it and then make general recommendations of it. So, you know, as part of this plan, when it gets adopted each year through the budget cycle, what we'll be looking for ‸ council is, you know, do you want to prioritize one or two parks or multiple parks and which initiatives at those parks do you want to prioritize? So we can work on the budgeting of those. Some of them are low hanging fruit, you know, putting benches in and canopy, you know, other items when you're redoing an entire park, that's obviously a pretty big budgetary item. So we just have to be able to get ahead of that and the design process and everything.
And Brian, can we go to page six on the, in the plan there and talk ‸ about Carmel, um, the
park
because I think that answers the question with regards to the focus, um, on any,
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parks plan. So Carmel is just a passive park, um, just has enhanced landscaping.
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um, put some seating just so people just want to ‸ sit and hang out there. Um, you know, that, that would be your kind of passive recommendation there. That's just applying to your, your everyday
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user for that park that lives in that area. Carl Anderson's similar. Um, you know, we don't have league play there. The suggestion there is replace the picnic tables, make it more comfortable for the neighborhood that's using it,
um,
resurface the basketball court. So smaller things like that, that are really primarily for the cocoa citizens that use those parks. And then, but when you do get into those larger parks, you know, you are trying to maintain that league play and bring in more leagues and hopefully work your way to tournaments and things like that. Um,
because
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that does bring in revenue to the, to the park system.
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how significant is that revenue?
I'm not sure. We don't have any tournament play.
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it depends on the league, um, and how large it is and how often
it is.
And they're there tournaments generate a lot more revenue because you bring people in from all of the state. Um, whereas generally play may not be as much.
Is it fair to say that it would pay for itself if you had, or is that something I don't generally think of parks as revenue generating?
It probably pays for the, the operation and maintenance of the actual league itself. A lot of those leagues are, are pretty well funded. Um, it just depends on, on the size of it.
Okay. Thank you.
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based off that, um, I know that will probably put provost park,
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probably
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as far as what we need to, uh, dedicate some attention because there's been a lot of interest, even with the
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in the state that it is now. It's been a lot of interest for tournaments. Um, there's been some community events out there, uh,
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So if we're looking at it based on what's being utilized by teams and coming out of town, that would probably put ‸ provost park on the
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And I have one more question.
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Yes, sir. Okay. Councilwoman Calls?
And, um, there was no analysis or I didn't see anything in terms of park deserts. And as you know, in district two and in district four, we have areas that do not have, uh, parks accessible to dense areas of youth.
Yeah.
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radii
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based on those parks and the coverage of it. Uh, yeah. Um,
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only suggestion on, on adding parks would be to, to get to a point where we can maintain the parks we have. Um, because there are parks that are in, ‸ in disrepair, um, that really haven't
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So I would just take that into consideration if we're looking to add parks.
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You know, it may be a desert because there's no sidewalk that connects that neighborhood to the park. And, you
know,
maybe that's an initiative as part of that overall master plan is
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those connection points.
Okay. But as a master plan, wouldn't you say that we would want to at least include in our vision? Um, what, I mean, certainly we can be aspirational on a master plan.
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21? Actually, we probably
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that discussion on 20.
Yeah, that was the original. Those were the discussions from when the consultant, um, was working.
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just didn't see, I didn't see that they, um, they're part of a list and I didn't see any prioritization overall vision of how that would roll out. And even if we're not in a position to start a park today, anything we do, you put a plan in place first.
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implementation. So, um, I am concerned about my district, the Cocoa Hills, the College Manor neighborhood, all of which have plenty of youth. Um, and in the, in terms of Pine Ridge, a growing population of young people without access to parks.
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obviously we talk about, uh, parks and, and having the need for additional parks. And we talk about the 10 minute walk. Uh, we talk about the connectivity in creating, introducing more skate parks there. Are you saying in this plan, we need to identify actual pieces of property? Well,
we,
well, that would certainly be a starting point, but neighborhoods. If we identified neighborhoods other than just Northwest sections of the city, I don't think Northwest sections of the city even includes the area that
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Hills.
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Northwest part of the city?
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Do you have a specific address
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Yeah,
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Pine Ridge, Cocoa Hills.
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a property. No, I don't have a specific property. What we have to do is look for opportunities, but there are specific
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that have high numbers of youth. ‸ And ‸ that would be College Manor Pine Ridge and Cocoa Hills
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I don't I know how we're gonna ‸ flow with our conversation with the parts but
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lighting, for sure. you know construction costs is kind of going all over the place at this time. And if we do get to a point where the
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come back where they're higher than what we expected I believe and I talked to starting about this as well you know dealing with doing it in phases, but make that priority security and lighting first. Because we could build whatever we want to be we could build a Taj Mahal and Provost but if people don't feel safe to be there it's going to be empty with kids like it is right now so
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you know, we already have security cameras out there right now. But definitely lighting, some sort of lighting and security, dealing with the fencing and ‸ So
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I still I still think that
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you finish counseling goals I have one more additional
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bind myself to not making the motion but I actually wanted to at least get a census on having you guys at least do research into identifying places that we can have future parks that I know we have some property especially
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some property over there at least dedicating some areas for future parks. Not necessarily saying we got to spend money now to make it apart but it would just be nice for citizens to know what's coming in the near future. or
‸ dedicating specific parcels there.
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you're saying specific parcels. And that's easy enough to add as an aspirational sort of section in here. You know, that's that's easy enough that This can be amended anytime there's It's just simply a matter of an agenda item that says, I would like to amend the parks infrastructure and master plan to include the acquisition of land at this address within the next five-year period and develop that as
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this can be a living document again as mr. Smith said you know I think our focus was on taking care of the most immediate needs and those are significant infrastructure needs there. but But again, in the summary, we tried to address the issue of the necessity of additional parks again we can expound upon that I wrote down the neighborhoods are you you have specific parcels in mind
this the parcels that we own just west of fire station one
yeah I and the chief and I have discussed that so talk a little bit about that and I don't think we're using that for storm water or anything like that
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actually connected to station one
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for training grounds. So in order to be able to get that credit, we have to have ‸ at least five acres that's connected to fire station one. So when you count in the property that the fire stations on, along with the property that's vacant next to it,
what about that counts toward that. We own that as well, right? ‸ heading towards that's
that's good yeah
that's good but we can have that excuse me we can have that conversation I think when you say chief you ‸ built that into the accreditation is is is as a part of the plan we've said to the accrediting agency that we're going to expand into that area for purposes of training facilities or
correct so to get the full credit I mean as you know councilman you have to have a fire tower well that's a huge undertaking but we can still get partial credit while we're in that movement of having that plan there by having that property. So that's part of our master plan or five year plan that we have for the organization is building that out in phases to eventually get to that fire tower so we get the full credit of it.
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I've talked about other parcels and so again, you know, it's really tough to identify specific parcels there. So I think, you know, you can talk about neighborhoods. It's probably the best way to go in terms of future
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We also, we discussed last year too, private partnerships as
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yeah, yeah.
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So, so in terms of, uh, we're going to take you through the parks master plan. I think he probably finished most of that discussion and then talk to you about projects there. Brian, ‸ I like this one better because it gives them more details in terms of, of the actual projects.
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more security related improvements. I think they need to see this because at some point, you know, we know we're not going to be able to fund it all.
And
so we need to be, we need to talk about what comes first.
Okay. And so we'll, we'll start with provost. So the, the direction originally from council, the, the main goal there was to convert that softball field to a multipurpose field. Um, so we, we've done that in the design. We do want to incorporate field lighting as well. Uh, removing one of the tennis courts and converting it to two full size basketball courts as well. We weren't sure if we're going to be able to fit two full size, but we were able to, to get the orientation right for that. Uh, part of the direction was to remove the standalone court. We, going through that with the designer and also some input we're receiving with, uh, how popular pickleball is right now. We thought it would be a better idea to just convert that into two or three pickleball courts. Um, we, we're pretty sure we can fit three of them there and that'll probably come out of the savings as well compared to removing that entire slab. Um, this would just be a resurface and repainting of that. And then the restroom building modifications as well. Yeah. I put the note in there and highlighted it. You know, there's a, a lot of things going on at provost that are going to cost a lot of money. So that's how we're going to position the bid.
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and we'll have the ability to add or remove items if we need to based on the cost.
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They're actually doing sports field lighting and the installation comes at no cost. Uh,
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and, and you pay a monthly fee for 10 to 15 years.
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maintenance agreement for that. That should save a significant amount of money because the lighting alone for a field, um, and then the courts, you're probably half a million dollars there by itself. Um,
pretty
much annually. Just the install. Shit. So it's lighting is typically one of the more expensive items. Um, we'd like to have that infrastructure in first because you don't want to build a new field and have to trench it up and put lights in afterwards. Um, so that, that's really the goal there. I think we've met most of that on provost. Uh, a couple of the items we're just looking for input on is, is the court colors. Um, you know, we can do the standard green courts with it.
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So, so, uh, councilman going to sort of have this all a cart sort of RFP.
Mm-hmm.
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come back to you guys and tell you how short we are on the, on the entire listing there. And then, and then we can, you can give us direction on what comes first if we can't fund it all in the, uh, in the initial budget there. Now we, and we're going to talk about this later under, under, uh, Rebecca's section. And we do have some savings from, um, projects that we've already, uh, completed. Mm-hmm.
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priority parks or how we're going to address those savings there. So I do think it's good that he's getting a line item sort of, uh, quotes within that RFP on the various, uh, items up there. And so we're able to sort of, again, pick
and choose. Yeah.
If,
um, so, and, and just my opinion, if, I know we have the, when you start doing a construction project, you got to do temporary fencing. So
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let's do our fencing and do the permanent fencing done immediately, you know, when the project begins, in my opinion. Mm-hmm.
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All of that, what's happening now is that's becoming just a crime cave right now.
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That road south of
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All those, all those pepper trees. There's nothing but pepper trees and crap.
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Yeah, ‸ so part of the, the final design, we actually, cause it, it is a walking path, so we were looking to put a sidewalk through there as well. Um, and I know you talked about fencing, so part of the plan is to do the perimeter fencing, and that's something we discussed as well with your construction fence. We'll leave it in there, and then it's a value, you know, we'll value engineer portions of it and have them just put the permanent fence in. We also have individual field fencing and court fencing, just so, you know, the cross play, you don't lose basketball or something into, into the football field or pickleball as well. And you see that it's pretty normal for parks now to, to really section off each park with fencing. And, and then the county would have the ability to, to lock those individual fields. Okay. But, you know, like a football field, typically you have four foot fence. If someone wants to get in, you know, they can.
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I know we talked
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Um, I think it's really coming from that stormwater pipe, that ditch that's there
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flooding out that whole parking lot. Um, so again, we, we, we don't want to just put lipstick on a pig, right? We want to be able to, we're going to spend this style of money or this amount of money.
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So I don't, I don't know if that pipe is full of dirt. Um, I don't know what it is, but it's, it's flooding that entire park line next to what the code enforcement building is. Yeah.
And that's on our list. Stormwater is going to look to address that.
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don't know that we need a contractor to do that. And we are including the fist parking lot into this bid package. Uh, you know, the, the plans were pretty much done. I would suggest whatever we can do to proceed with that. We should, um, just the aesthetics of that being on main major corner. And then it adds to the security because right now
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So, so that, that should help kind of in that area as well. Yeah. Okay.
‸ I was going to address the parking lot as well, but I'm glad you guys already had that cover because that really creates the eyesore for that
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Um, I was wondering, it looks like it once was a
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is a ditch still.
I
believe, uh, I'm not sure if ‸ it could
be
reestablished. And I know you say you want to put a walkway, maybe like a little bridge
that
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leads to that uh, in street that way you can have
somewhere to
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divert some storm water.
Yeah, we'll, we'll look at it. We just have to be careful with, with ditches and walkways with slopes and everything.
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that a little closer as well.
So,
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that sidewalk in or whatever it may be, um, you said that the clearing part of that, those pepper trees is going to be a part of that particular bid that's separate from this phase.
It'd be part of this project,
part
of this project. And that would be the clearing for the sidewalk itself. But we can, you know, that's something
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part of this, a site
contract
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either ourselves or we can use a separate contractor anytime to do that type of clearing. We just have to get survey and make sure we're in our actual property when we do it.
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when we have a, when we get a plan, the site, I would really like to see the site plan before it goes out for bid.
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and you know, so I would really like to see it.
Yeah. And so this is the, the general site layout.
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these projects.
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Uh, the intent was just to make it as, as large as we could to accommodate, um, whatever sport wants to play there. You've got the two courts on the, uh, I guess it'd be the Southwest side and then the pickleball courts, which are directly East of the action team building or the, the community engagement center.
For the pickleball courts. I mean, the relative costs to take them out and to just resurface them is pretty minimal.
Um,
yeah, to resurfaces from talking to the engineer, it would be a lot less than actually having to demo those slabs and remove everything. Yeah. Okay.
So what happens to the parking lot next to, uh, south of the action team building?
So that, that parking lot is, is west of the courts that it stays as it is. That wasn't part of the original scope
of
this. So if that's something we want to look at as part of paving, then we can look at that.
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easily go over your budget. We're,
we're
probably over the budget right now. So we tried to limit some of that.
I really, I did.
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parking. So you don't want to get rid of it.
And then
the, the lighting for these particular fields, well, I'm going to go back. You said you
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are we considering allowing those light lights to be just like street lights where they're on all night? Um,
‸ those style of life, it wouldn't be automatic. So it would, it would be like what you normally have for, for parks. If we ‸ want it from a security standpoint, ‸ these newer lights will work off of Bluetooth.
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Um, either us or the county will have the ability to set hours.
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So we
are, are you talking about, um, those are the field lights, but are, are you talking about security? He's talking about lights that are not related to the field, but just sort of lighting the park for, for
security purposes. So we, we will include that. So just your general parking lot lighting, they, they do that as well at, at the parks. So it could work just like a street light works as well. And those courts have lights as well. That's the plan. That's the plan. Yes.
I know there is Jolie Smith has the outdoor court and they have the light that just got redone by FP and L. Um, they did the white LEDs. Um, and I'm pretty sure with
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new pole, they're probably the same thing with those.
Yeah.
And
as part of this program, the, the more parks that you include in the beginning, the better, basically you're,
you're
financing the lightings over 10 to 20 years, depending on the agreement.
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Because
if, if you come in after the fact and, and do one or two lights at a time, or one or two smaller parks at a time, the, the rate for that park is going to be much higher than if you just did them all at once.
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There's no capital investment. You're just paying a rental fee like you would for street lights, whether it's used or not. You still pay the same fee. Gotcha. Okay.
And
so with that, we did want to get a little bit of direction from council just on, on the colors that, you know, the typical is your, your green
quartz
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with white paint. But if there's something specific that we want to do, we'd like to include that in the bid.
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Yeah.
I would keep in mind too,
just
lighter colors tend to, tend to show when things get dirty a little bit quicker.
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I
mean, it's proven.
But if there's a logo or something, we could try to work that in.
See the logo in the middle. Yeah.
I
would like to see our city logo.
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I
think you brought up good ideas.
Yep. This color right here, that we used for the
background
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of our logo.
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Sage. Seafoam. Would you call it? Seafoam?
Seafoam.
Seafoam.
Are you talking about
the, the darker color here.
Oh, the darker color. Oh, I don't know.
Yeah. It's like a smoke. With a city logo. Smoke blue.
I can
get you all the specific colors. Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
We'll, we'll work with Samantha to identify those colors.
It
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would be nice when people driving by, they can actually see the court
because
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it's standing out. The color is bright, it's inviting.
And we'll try to mirror that for the pickleball courts as well.
Great.
And
then this fencing, it goes to the right in front of the pavilion and then ties into behind the county fire station. Is that how that is going to tie into what the existing fencing is now?
Our goal would be to have the ability to secure the entire park.
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the fields and then have pedestrian gates that are lockable. If, if we needed to do so.
Yes, sir. Thank you. You want to talk about the fisk a lot.
Yeah. So this is that, that fisk parking ‸ lot. Um, when DOT redid fisk, we actually had them put that driveway in as part of the project, anticipating being able to do this project in the future. So this will provide another 46 parking spaces.
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parking spaces, which is pretty good for that size park, depending on, you know, what type of league
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You know, you can see the picture that's relatively current. The condition hasn't really changed there, but it is a complete free for all at this point. It'll help with, with maintenance and everything else there to be able to control that access.
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So does the front part of the softball field ‸ that now,
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Correct.
There'll be
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a stormwater pond or dry soil that runs along fisk.
All
the way down to that easement area.
Question.
You've got the parking along fisk you now have ‸ up here in the capacity in the lot itself.
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It is a DOT right away and driving over those sidewalks and everything. I got you. And this is, this is safer, right? Yeah. If you have people blocking the sidewalks, especially if you have more kids using the park, that just creates a very unsafe condition, especially along a state roadway there.
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won't have any impact here. This one's, um, gonna ‸ control its, its impervious area with that stormwater pond. And then that ends up, uh, down that ditch through Jackson,
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do those,
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where do those, uh, the street drains in front of there, what, what do they tie into?
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That's far.
Okay. Uh, next is, uh, Bracco. So these are current pictures we've, we've installed, our, our contractors installed a lot of the exercise stations. They're working on the pads for that as well. So we're, we're hoping that's, that's done here in the next couple of weeks and,
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Uh, we're, we're still waiting on approval for the
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So that's part of this. We're gonna ‸ install some of the larger Oak trees, um, ones that'll actually be able to live, you know, you want to try to get them as big as you can, but at a certain point, it gets hard to take care of them. So once we get approval for that, we'll, we'll start putting in those trees as well through there and.
Okay.
So
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but, uh,
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So the direction there was for a splash pad as well as a new pavilion.
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now our, our splash pad spec data about 20 by 40, it would be fully ADA compliant.
Um,
Samantha, if you want to go to the next slide on that. She's going to go back to the
new slides. Okay.
I
just thought they needed the detail on provost.
‸ And so this is just kind of a schematic of what that splash pad, uh, may look like the, the water features themselves may change, but we're looking at around 11 water features. You'll have a school age area and then a preschool area, and we'll have sidewalks connecting that to the, to the rest of the park.
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screen, that far right area. That was really the best spot for the pavilion. And, um, ‸ when you look at the, the previous plan for provost, um, there was actually a pavilion in that location that, that wasn't installed as well. So we're matching that plan, but we, we have to go out to bid here next month on that and, and work from there. We think we'll be okay budget wise on this one. Uh,
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We do have to include an attachment onto the, uh, the existing
restroom
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facility, and that will be our pump house for the splash pad and everything else. Then, uh, Stradley. So the, the main goal here was the football field and it's stormwater issues. Um, so that's really what we focused on is making those drainage improvements,
um,
having it laser level and regraded to, to get the water outside of the field. And then actually including a new stormwater area, kind of near the entry way to that field. Uh, we,
are
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going to look to include the lighting as well as that FPL package when we work through them.
Um,
and, and then any other funding that we have, you
know,
we want to do team benches,
um,
scoreboard goalposts, uh, you know, we're, we're going to do as much
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a mess.
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Um, and just try to make the field look a little nicer. Uh,
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other aspect of the Stradley project was looking at the concession building and the clubhouse building. Our staff's been in there for ‸ past couple months, making some improvements with the restroom fixtures. I believe we're waiting on, on some new doors for the restrooms as well to replace those.
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And then as part of the county funding, there is an extra 200,000 there that we'll be able to use for these improvements. That's more than likely going to go to the field. That's our assumption. We'd like to tie this project with provost and have one contractor. Um, it, it'll probably lower the price a little bit
because
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those projects are pretty similar. And, uh, but we'll, we'll continue to do what we can
in-house.
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our guys are pretty capable with some of those renovations and, and work for, you know, kind of work in that concession building and, and make it better.
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that age.
Councilwoman Costa, you want to talk about Stradley here?
I
mean, um, ‸ Travis.
Now
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Where do we stand on that?
So we're world,
the
city is only doing the football field. The county is, is doing the baseball fields and softball fields. And then they're also in design on the septic. Um, I, I'm not sure where that stands. There wasn't a lot of money that, that they put towards that. I believe that was county funded as well. It wasn't coming out of the administrative board funding. So they're, they're probably going to wrap that design up within the year and then they'll have to go out to bid and, and you know, go from there. They're going to need a lift station. I think they've been working with utilities on and off on that.
And
so currently the septic field is underneath the football field.
No, it's not. Okay.
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It's on the side of
the construction.
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and you literally can't use the bathroom.
Yeah. And that the county's been working on
that.
That's a
public health issue.
‸ Absolutely.
So what we're doing won't impact that. And we don't know where the county is. I did speak with commissioner Goodson.
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No, our, our project doesn't address the septic. Um, that, that would probably consume the fun, all of the funding in itself.
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three people that make recommendations to the commissioners, is that something that you would address? Yes.
It's already in the plan. So they're, they're working on the design now.
Okay.
So
there is funding going towards that design. And that's, they're, they're doing that now. But like I said,
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the district for money. It's, it's county general fund that's supplementing it.
Mm-hmm.
Um,
so when the construction comes up, we, you know, it'll depend on what that cost is. And, you know, the county will probably tell us, and if, if they need help with it,
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that'll be a decision for you all. If, if you want to help with that, um, or, you know, look for other improvements to the septic system itself.
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Okay.
Okay.
Um,
on
Travis, where are we on Travis in terms of the plan? I know we have a number of bullet points here.
So the, the county's been doing some work over at Travis. Uh, they've got some budget in there for fixture and door improvements, some flooring improvements, just kind of some much needed architectural type improvements within the building. Um, I don't believe they have any major improvements outside of what they've recently done with the playground and the court there. I believe they converted one of the courts to a, a small full court. It's not a true full size court.
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There is no initiative that, that we pursued on that.
Okay. And
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They're supposed to be
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but what's different about that recreation center for many of the others that we have is that it has no sound cushioning. So at the point that it was built, of course, they didn't have some conditioning and you know what that is, right?
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are on the wall at
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they basically, they cut down the echo. Without those, it becomes really, ‸ but you know, it just becomes miserable after a while being in that echo chamber. So, um, to get that, how would you get that on? Would that be a matter of going to that three member district?
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Yeah.
We,
so typically with, with the board, what we've done is the, the city would make a recommendation on some improvements that we'd like to see if that's one of them. It's, it's an easy ask and then they can, they can price it out and see what it looks like. If they can, if they can just consume that, um, then we'd have, we just ask them to go ahead and do that. If, if it's at a higher cost that they can't absorb, then it'd be something that the city could contract and install because it is our building. So the opportunity is there. I don't, I don't know what those costs are, or what's involved with that though.
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Are those called, are those just simply wall paddings? Sound dampening.
Sound
dampening.
Okay.
So, and this is something that, um,
um,
city manager and I talked about before, but so we have an underutilized recreation center because not because there isn't the need for it,
but
it's located
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the North, on the East side of clear Lake, large amount of dense housing,
um,
low income housing with lots of youth that would love to be a part of ‸ camp programs at Travis recreation center.
And,
but the price of it without some sort of, uh,
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um, makes it, uh, unattainable for them. So we talked about neighborhood strategy area and that isn't necessarily a part of this, although it certainly does go into the vision
of
our parks and being able to utilize our assets.
And I actually have that as a discussion item under another section under your, under the council's priorities there. So I did list that out as a, as a desire,
uh,
that you and I discussed there. So,
okay, good.
And the,
the
county does have discount programs for their spring break and summer camps through their, their application.
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but they, they do have discount
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Yeah, because they're currently at about 50% for their camps. And that has been identified as the reason why.
Um,
so, and then the other thing would be landscaping, because as you recall, this was a park that it was determined that it would be a low maintenance park, that all the landscaping was mowed down. And, um, when we discussed this, I don't know if it was ‸ last year, I think it may have been last year, there was an attempt to put a line of plants up and those of all sense for the most part died.
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Um, so you have very barren landscape. Um, and again, concerned by the neighborhood is, you know, being the classified as a low maintenance park now, um, and not being as attractive. So, um, we're also looking for places for dog parks.
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Um, and community gardens, is this, is there potential to do any of those things? Because they do have the property that is, that is north of the actual building. That is not being used. It's kind of a, I guess it's kind of a dry stormwater storage.
Yeah,
I
believe that's a dry pond area. I mean, any additions to parks, like, you know, we ultimately control them.
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If we're going to build those improvements and expect the county to do it. Uh, yeah, that's a tough conversation. So if we're going to make those improvements, then we just need to have a plan for that. The operation and maintenance of them.
Yeah. And you're certainly not, you're, you're probably going to get out voted on those. Most, most of those administrative meetings there.
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as part of the recommendations,
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in the, in the gym, and then additional landscaping surrounding
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an interlocal agreement with the parks. Now do we, did I read that in the beginning introduction? We still don't have that.
Is
there, what are the reasons?
Yeah,
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So we've been in negotiations with them on that. Um, there's a couple of key points that we need to dig further into as to their
ask and our ask
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on it. ‸ And then eventually that'll come to council for approval.
So is it the holdup has just been a couple of items?
because
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I know
Rockledge has an agreement.
Rockledge is, yeah, their, their agreements much newer than ours. Um, so they expire, I think
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So
originally we wanted to just mirror that until they have to renegotiate. And then we could both mirror the agreements.
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right now we have two separate agreement agreements. It would make sense to have just a three party interlocal.
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right now.
But our, our issues are going to be what you guys have, you brought it up. I mean, it's, it's the maintenance and it's how you do the maintenance and how frequently you do the maintenance there. And that, that's, that's a, that's the negotiating point, the discussion point there. So, so again, uh, you know, last I talked to the parks director, they, they had presented some standards. I know that, uh, Bryant presented those to the council before, but they, I don't want to say they weren't serious about those standards, but they, they, that was the, that was the, uh, the starting point there, you know, so, so that's going to be the major issue, uh, is, is the maintenance and how often they maintain and, and those
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of things there, because that's, that's primarily the concern that you guys have staffing,
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maintenance and upkeep of, of, of those, of those district parks.
Yep. Is that it? The city manager? Is that it?
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Yeah,
I
got you.
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Are you finished? Thank you. Okay.
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on the floor. Okay.
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Okay. Um, the, I was saying, like I said earlier,
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‸ I had a few people that was wanting to speak on the, um, outdoor dining that's here now. Um, so maybe if we can, after we get done with this motion, we can move that up to the discussion. If we can,
‸ at
least hear from them so they can, I don't want to have them
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Um, the approval of the park infrastructure and master plan. I'll make a motion to approve it. I'm looking for a second and then I'll hear from the audience. I'll second. Okay. Did you get the, that motion, Mrs.
I object to a vote. ‸ Is this a vote on the master plan? I would like to speak.
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getting ready to let you do ma'am. We,
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you've been ready to.
I'm
not, we just made the motion ma'am. We
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Well, you, you should have discussion.
Excuse me,
I'm not
having that in my council chambers. Period point blank. Okay. So, so good, so good, so good. All right, we have a motion. Now, we have a discussion. First on the car, because
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The floor is yours ma'am. State your name, please.
Yes, good morning. Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
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to defer any voting on this master plan until the community can engage. ‸ 48 hours isn't enough. It's a complex process. And I do believe we have a lot of resources and experts that can weigh in that will actually help this process. So, but it's going to take us some time to dig. And I would just really, really make that plea to all of you. Please give us that chance to review ‸ and engage. That was the first thing. And then the second thing is my observation over the six months is for some reason, I feel like that this council is viewing citizens as an adversarial component. And I just want to tell you that
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I'm a resource. I want to help in this process and I want to engage.
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I thank Mr. Goins for also speaking up on our behalf and
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So I would just want to let you know a few things of observations that I saw that we could probably get involved in and help you with. But for instance, my master planning expertise and I'm looking at the master plan itself and I'm seeing a facilities improvement plan and
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that facility improvements plan.
And
we miss a lot of opportunities that way. The second thing I'm not seeing a short term viewpoint and a long term viewpoint. We see the short term and we're going to miss some opportunities there as well, including the fact that we're growing in population and we need to be thinking about facilities in the future as well. The other part that I would love to see and maybe I just need to dig a little deeper is the interconnectedness between some of the plans we already have in place. For example, the comp plan has an open space and recreational component to it. I'm not sure yet how it's all connected.
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amazing to have more access to for the community. I'd like to see a diversification of activities and make sure that we include biking and walking and that kind of thing. And again, it could be I just need time to dig into the plans a little more. The other component that is huge on this the opportunity is to connect what we're doing to health and wellness of the community. And there are ways to do that. And there's ways to measure that.
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that connection.
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‸ The other thing is the green space and the aesthetics. I think that we're starting to allude to that makes this a special place and seeing that component pulled in. So in conclusion, I know I've talked for a while. I just want to make a big plea. Give us the time. Please see us as resources. We're smart. We have the expertise. We want to engage. And please allow us that about that time to do that. Thank you very much. And I hope you'll consider what I said.
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So, um, I've never spoken to you. Okay.
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have you ever called Mr. Mr. Smith to talk to him about the parks plan or anything that you have an idea on.
No, sir. Actually, I'm new to the community. So I'm still in all fairness trying to get up to speed on all this. It's a lot. I got you. But I think
but when you make certain statements as in we are trying to block or quiet citizens. When you haven't reached out to us.
I
don't feel that's fair to us as a council in my opinion. Um, ‸ give them if you you have the expertise and I believe that you do.
Yeah.
But if you have that sit down with some of our staff,
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with them or have you ever sat down with our city manager.
Yeah,
as well. So it's plenty of opportunity that I believe that you have with the expertise that you stated that you have for you to sit down to have that discussion.
Yeah, but
I don't think it's fair to us as a
counselor
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to make certain statements that I don't believe ‸ are really true when you haven't reached out to those particular group. You may have talking to councilwoman calls.
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I'm going by the observations of the city council that I've been sitting in and trying to speak up and it just feels very almost like you don't want to hear our engagement. ‸ And also, I want to give you one other point. I have tried to reach out to the planning and zoning and when I went to find out how to get to that office,
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And I, you know, I'll find that person's name. It was the person I guess who's in charge of records.
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area. So trying to learn my way around and was shut out completely from talking to the planning and zoning board. Furthermore, I actually applied for that board. I'm the only one with the expertise and master planning and architectural design ‸ was completely shut out. But to your point, I would love to know who I can engage with and talk with one on one and how to access them.
You got the guy.
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He's here. Okay. And I know for a fact, like his schedule is crazy.
Yeah.
And he's open to talk to ‸ everybody. He'll tell you like he tells everybody else, call Kathy Frederick and she'll put you on my schedule, which she most times she won't even ask him about it. She just boom. So you have an opportunity. As far as the planning and zoning situation, I mean, it was a vote between, you know, a lot of different people.
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you. I don't feel.
It
felt like it. And sometimes it does. Sometimes it does. I understand that. I understand that. I
want to use my intelligence and my capability to help is the message you should get. And I'm finding it hard to navigate is the second message.
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I can start there. Sure.
He's the guy.
Okay. Thank you.
‸ Yes, sir.
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Or I don't know. When did you get it? Actually less than that
by the time I found out about it.
Yeah. So the whole idea and I didn't hear any accusatory language other than if you only have 48 hours. I mean, this is was only even posted 48 hours ago. ‸ This is an important community. A master plan is an important community document. I really the whole idea that you somehow connect the vision public health, health and wellness to the parks master plan.
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comprehensive plan, there are lots of notes.
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they're called. They're at any rate actions that we're supposed to connect our parks by paths and bikeways and trails and all the things that are not mentioned in this master plan. So there is a lot of guidance there as well. And again, I'm really concerned that that we're choosing to vote on approving this when we could at least do we could do 30 days could be available to the public for 30 days. Then we vote on it.
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but at least have the document out there. There's something that's so important to the community as a park plan. It just makes sense to to wait.
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Okay.
So
how long? Again, I know beginning of the meeting,
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said that ‸ this particular plan was out for how long?
Yeah, ‸ actually, again, we had the workshop last year. We've this plan is is unchanged from last year. This plan just simply builds upon what was already out there in terms of the work that the consultant did. And so, you know, and we term this thing of parks infrastructure and master plan.
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you that the first thing that they need is a field where there are no ruts, where there's no drain in the end zone. Right. Where there is a goal post, where there are lights, where there are bleachers there.
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I said last year, you ‸ this is primarily an infrastructure plan. And when you talk about all those aspirational things, bike paths, connectivity, then that that can actually be the evolution of the plan. But you need an infrastructure plan right now that actually provides playable surfaces and amenities for for the public.
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but I did have a question with regards to something that the lady said there. And she said that the clerk said that she wasn't allowed to talk to planning.
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I think you're not talking about staff, you're talking about the planning board members.
No, it was staff.
Okay.
Yeah.
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not the board, the planning and zoning staff, I was told I was not allowed access. That's where you get the service.
Okay. Thank you.
Well, the other.
I would. Sorry.
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commission meeting and said that we are oppressing her.
Right.
So I'm just, I think, and it may be a situation like somebody said she can't talk to planning zone. She may be talking about that.
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Right. I'm I'll listen to anybody at any time. And it's when you say that in a broad stroke, it's kind of to me with the time I know I put in and I know maybe other people may feel the same way. I'm not sure. It makes it seem like because when someone
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about you councilwoman calls, I feel bad about it.
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Right. Because I'm a part of
did
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we say this right team Coco. That's what we say. So if we say that it should affect all of us. And ‸ so when she says those things, this is, is I feel like she's talking to me, too.
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Because
I don't want to get started.
Yeah. ‸ So the only reason I said that ‸ I believe you may have had a bad situation with somebody said for you not to talk to somebody or maybe say they said the wrong thing.
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sit down with you about anything because, again,
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you speak. I know you have the confidence and I know you're educated and I know that you understand what's, ‸ you know, your world. So, so, I'm just
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you know again that he's open.
Yeah.
For that conversation.
Well, I would say this. I'm sorry for any personal feelings on that. I'm going strictly by observations and coming here time and time again and not being able to engage intellectually or be able to help in any meaningful way. It's always been reactive because we haven't had the time to engage.
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time to engage. I will engage meaningfully. But with, as cost said with 48 hours, we're not, I can't even reach out. There's not even enough time to reach out and talk with you. So, give us that time and I promise you I will engage more on a one-on-one basis if I have that time. And I promise you I will be a resource and not an adversary. So, ‸ anyway, that's all I can say.
No
problem.
but
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Again, staff just said that this has been out for a year.
‸ So, it just got,
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But I just, you know, I
want
to, I mean, we ‸ did discuss this. I mean, we, we.
And it
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I
know. And let me just respond as a master planner.
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of efforts with the community. It's the only thing that leads to success. So, it, I know it feels frustrating. You're probably doing Groundhog Day every day. But it's critical to get, you know, us engaged on a regular basis.
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And, yes, it's got to be really frustrating from your point of view because you have engaged, right? But it's just, you got to keep doing
it. I mean, personally, I'm fine with it. I'm just, I've just heard this goalpost be moved every single time.
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We do it in 30 days.
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I'm just, I'm just telling you.
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I understand. Let me do this.
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that I've been here and try to get that continuous message out for you. So it's got to sound like Groundhog Day, and I'm sorry about that
‸ If you feel
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commission me it frustrated me And I apologize if I came off
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want to just say I learned every time there's an interchange. So ‸ yes ma'am.
Yes ma'am
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Yeah,
I was just gonna ‸ say I was unaware of the county. I have not seen the county commission meeting But with all due respect moving the goalposts the Florida League of Cities encourages us to use these workshops for discussion, not for Hardcore legislation that impacts us for decades and as far as I need some clarification because really we don't
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In terms of the plans, I mean these are things we've already voted on so that's not really what we're voting on with the plan, right? We're voting
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90% design or 100% design if we didn't approve it?
No
you
approved projects ma'am You didn't the plans you know so you approved projects there you allocated the 8.8 million dollars and there were projects within those, uh within that
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you approved that this was something that was started prior to me coming
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never took a vote on that I didn't want to put this out to the universe that as a council approved plan when you have not taken an official vote on it
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are the Florida League of City ‸ Again, your your your local uh rules and procedures govern how you uh conduct yourselves in workshops 30 years There are always decisions made in a in a workshops and so but again
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I can guarantee you that the the Cocoa Football League um Is in support of those
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um Um the issue is can everybody does everybody want to participate in the input and we talk very openly about uh the process and the end users. uh But again, because primarily the use of the football field is via the uh
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Yeah,
and
so and so again that's going to drive the activity in the parks I don't have an issue with anybody looking at the plan and making suggestions It's a it's a living document there I I would ask that if you approve this thing today that you include the the edits that I made sort of real time here At any any point in time you can put an item on the agenda And the item could ‸ simply be under the Cocoa Park system map
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Will include approximately appropriately sized parks within the following neighborhoods within the next five years Pine Ridge Cocoa Manor Cocoa Hills So so again, it's it's designed to be that living breathing document connectivity to health and fitness is is in my mind
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I don't mind having a section talking about that connectivity also
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No,
I am I so my question was do we have to approve this plan? In order for these projects to move forward
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So the motion is to approve the overall master plan yes ‸ Okay, well I did not of course I haven't even had 48 hours
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we approved It's a real problem to go back and try to make those And it and that happened quite recently so um and In
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Was my nominee for planning and zoning remember?
Yeah,
and we had agreed that we each got a nominee And then at the end of that of course Of
course
that was all thrown out and there was a whole new slate of nominees so That's an issue there.
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Um because there are a lot of people that care about our parks
‸ Yeah,
there are a lot of people that would like to say something Um
as I stated to go back from the beginning of the meeting I didn't want to bind us to not making decisions because some things can be time sensitive I know a lot of these items we addressed in the parks plan ‸ is time sensitive We have the little league football team who their season starts in this uh summer and uh So they kind of need to be able to adjust their schedule ahead of time and things need to go out for bid
just so they're
good
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uh And I know that uh the price of materials construction it keeps going up but however as a happy medium I would like to ask uh uh if for the possibility of amending your motion to uh hold this vote until uh the next council meeting, which is what, Tuesday? That's the next council? That where people have time to look through it? uh Anybody?
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that's just a suggestion
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tuesday
Correct Mr. Stoll
Yeah uh good afternoon or good morning or wherever we're at
Uh
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but i did want to pass on some comments to you uh uh uh Yes, uh getting this plan approved uh is a positive step forward. uh I was here uh when we were going over the plan last time, and uh if you excuse my my uh uh my language for the uh uh Navy veterans uh
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uh so uh uh and and we so far everything I've heard about our parks had to do with people. uh I would like to make a pitch for conservation. Small part but conservation. We've got a great Cocoa Conservation Area. We've got the Johnny Johnson Trails. And if you're looking for a potential new conservation park, now that Orchid Lakes is is in the process of doing their site prep work on a prime piece of Sand Pine Ridge, uh there's another piece, which is on Michigan, north of,
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just west of the FEC Railroad tracks. As ‸ matter of fact, recently, within the last two months, there must have been some
kind of
activity going on in that little ridge. There were a whole bunch of police there. uh uh uh Fire chief, we had uh paramedics up there. uh uh uh You guys put the brush truck in there. I don't know whether it was a death down there, homeless camp, whatever, but I don't know what it was, but it was a lot of action. uh I'm gonna ‸ try and pick it up faster. Okay? Because
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had thrown out a plan to you where we could use, uh
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uh where Florida Forest Service,
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uh cypress trees, pond cypress, uh pine trees, long leaf pines. You could even get understory plants.
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and you could start recreating little pockets of natural environment to go along with that shade. Perfect place for that. bb Three
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I see some beautiful
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Conservation Area, preserve the natural environment. Issue, access, security, and vandalism. uh Until I got chased out of there,
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uh Mud Lake, uh for flood mitigation. Perfect. Rather
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for
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uh 524 access
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uh There's really not a whole lot of people living out there. It's narrow access. uh With the active problems we have for CCA, we should probably not consider that.
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the natural environment. Leon and Jewel Collins Museum. I can't tell you how much I look forward to visiting that museum.
and
uh all right, I'll finish it up there, sir. Thank you for the extra time.
Thank you. All right, we have a motion on the floor. I
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gonna ‸ call the question. All the favor saying aye. Aye. any nay. Nay. And
I didn't have
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chance to speak after the public and before we
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question, ‸ that's
why you have discussion before you call a motion.
Okay. Well, we voted on this. The answer is three, yes, and two. You said you said nay? Yes,
nay.
All right.
Can we get
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before we go to lunch.
Okay. Then submit a card And we don't have to
discuss it after that.
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in the car The mayor, just hand
him
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the card. thank you jason ‸ Jason is speaking on behalf of item number four on street outdoor dining. Is that correct, sir? Yes, sir. Okay. Three
minutes, sir. ‸ floor is yours. Thanks, sir. So when we voted before on permanency, we then went and put a lot of money into that outside area. And not only just to make it nicer, but also, Mr. Mayor, for your concerns about safety, we had them really bulk that wall up that's around it to make sure that we obviously don't want anybody to get hurt if a car happened to. So we really bulked that up and and paid some extra money and make sure that the safety measures were in there. Now, that little area makes a big difference still because people still are not totally safe. I don't know if
you
go to stores, you still see people with masks. So it still really helps us
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people feel better about coming out So, you know, all our events that we try to do here in the village are to bring people in the village. We have a beautiful place down here. And that's all our goal is. Anytime we do an event or anything, any charity work, we try to keep it right here
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So we all try to work together and get every business that's around here involved into it. So I'm not sure why we're having some issues about that when
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it's it's It is better for us, bottom line wise I'm not going to lie to you. And we're willing to pay for that area. But bottom line, it means a lot to us. And I think it helps us do more for the community around us, too, the more we're able to do. So, and we have added some extra parking in the area recently. So, yes, we're taking someone to parking. And I get that. I get that. But I think with that,
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to do events.
Thank you. Thank you, sir. Is there another car? You
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thank you Thank you.
Okay. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak to the council again. uh
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It was my understanding that we had had voted on this previously. And we were just waiting for direction on how to facilitate this from the city manager. I found out yesterday that
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again regarding the outdoor seating uh with very little notice. So, i
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that I have from my location with people mentioning about the outdoor dining and how it brings them down here and how much they appreciate it as well. uh Again,
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to strike this strike down what we have previously approved. If that is going to happen, I would uh request that this is done on a, uh with a little bit more time. So,
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like
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with a little bit of time with people from the community. Again, just like Jason said
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if i said obviously that is, but it brings more people to the village. More people to the village is not only beneficial for the restaurants, it's beneficial for the community and all the other businesses as well. I'd like to know if we are going to vote on this again, what the concerns are that is making this an issue that we're revisiting this again. If it's a safety issue, I thought that would possibly come up in how we were going to have the city manager present this to us. How, what guidelines we had to follow. Again, if a vote if a vote is going to be made on this today, I would appreciate ‸ if it ‸ be postponed to a full board meeting. We, uh this is a benefit again, not just for the restaurants, it's for the whole community as well. And, i hope to see everybody down on Mardi Gras. You'll see how nicely we decorated out the front area from Mardi Gras to get everybody in the spirits. And
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um the, this, the parking that is being utilized for outside seating was supported by this council as a a temporary situation because of the pandemic. we don't have the luxury. Let me
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group that wants to include that as a permanent basis, then you need to close all the streets in the village. And every person that's in business there can do the same thing. What's being requested now. And I have a whole corner. I wouldn't mind taking all that
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and utilizing it. uh
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and they are not supporting continuing this setup of parking being used to enhance businesses that were there. The council did this as a way to support and understand the problem about the pandemic to allow the people to still be in business. Now, if we're going to move this to a position, even if it was asked to pay for the spot, do it for everybody. You cannot do it for one or two people. So if you choose to go ahead and allow the on-street parking, then we need to go one step further and
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And the Commercial Property Group members that are concerned about it, they've called, they've let you know. They do not support this. We don't have unlimited parking. We're still trying to solve the problem. Next thing is, is this parking situation. If you think
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we,
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only good for about 15 years. Do you all know that adds up to only 22 and a half million bucks? The rest of our attention in that area, even if we can get grants, should be the main priority is increasing the parking in the downtown area. That is priority because we're running out of money. In 15 years, the downtown area is not going to get that money. It's going to go. And I really feel that because the time it takes and all that, that's where we need to put our attention. Thank you. Thank
you very much.
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minute recess.
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