Planning & Zoning

Planning & Zoning Regular Meeting

Date
2021-03-03
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1040
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The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1429_PZ_Reg_Minutes_03_03_2021.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Michael Dobrin, Al Washington, Jeri Blanco, Sherry Ervin, Trina Gilliam, Marilyn Green, Susan Mock, Russell Sengel, Aleck Greenwood
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: Todd Anderson, Debbie Joyce
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Kristin Eick (Board Attorney), Dodie Selig (Planning & Zoning Manager), Alix Bernard (Senior Planner), Lavander Hearn (Board Liaison), Monica Arsenault (Recording Secretary)
  • Named on at least one ballot later in the meeting: BLANCO, DOBRIN, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL, WASHINGTON (participation, which can differ from the roll: arrivals and departures are in the minutes' text)

Adopted actions (5)

  • to APPROVE THE MARCH 3, 2021 AGENDA AS WRITTEN (moved by ERVIN, seconded by GREEN); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, BLANCO, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 3, 2021 MINUTES AS WRITTEN (moved by BLANCO, seconded by GREEN); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, BLANCO, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL; nays: none — the City's minutes, pp. 1–2
  • to RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX A, ZONING, ARTICLE XI, SECTIONS 4A, 5 AND 6 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF COCOA; LIMITING THE FUTURE APPLICATION OF THE RU-2-10 ZONING DISTRICT AND THE REGULATIONS THEREIN PERTAINING TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE-FAMILY … (moved by BLANCO, seconded by WASHINGTON); PASSED 8-1; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, BLANCO, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, MOCK, SENGEL; nays: GREENWOOD — the City's minutes, p. 3; the vote on p. 4
  • to RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX A, ARTICLE XI, SECTIONS 18 AND 22 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF COCOA; ALLOWING TOWNHOUSES AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE WITHIN THE CORE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND CERTAIN SUB-DISTRICTS OF THE COOCA … (moved by GREEN, seconded by SENGEL); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, BLANCO, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 3, 2021 (moved by ERVIN, seconded by GILLIAM); PASSED 9-0; ayes: DOBRIN, WASHINGTON, BLANCO, ERVIN, GILLIAM, GREEN, GREENWOOD, MOCK, SENGEL; nays: none — the City's minutes, p. 7

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (PZ_Reg_Packet_03_03_2021), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.


Transcript Partial transcript

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Got our moment of camaraderie here which will continue in a good spirited way. Oh. And
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order and Monica you would call the roll.
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Sure.
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Here.
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Al Washington. Here. Todd Anderson. Jerry Blanco. Here. Sherry Irvin. Here. Trina Gilliam. Here. Marilyn Green. Here. Susan Mock.
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Here.
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Russell Sengel.
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Here.
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Alec Greenwood.
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Here.
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Debbie Joyce.
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Several zoning ordinance amendments tonight.
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Does
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anybody have anything to add or delete? If not, we'll take a motion to approve the agenda as written.
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I make a motion.
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approve the agenda as written.
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Okay.
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Okay. All in
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say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. In the minutes of the last meeting of 3 February.
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Okay.
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Okay. We have
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written.
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Okay. Thank you. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. We got through the easy part here.
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And Dodie, you're on.
[00:02:18] Speaker 6
All right. Since we're distanced, I'm going to take the mask off so you can hear me a little bit better. Okay. Um, so this item came before you some time back and the board had decided that, uh, there were a couple of members that had some concerns and so you tabled it to this meeting. I've met with both of those board members independently. And so I'm bringing the item back to you with a bit more explanation of ‸ how it works. Um, that hopefully
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address, um, you know, some of my, there it goes.
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zoning districts, um, removing reference to the RU 210 district regulations, uh,
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um, in the 215 and 225 district regulations themselves.
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prompted because the
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uh, consent decree, uh, limits the application of the 210 zoning district regulations, uh, specifically to the consent decree area.
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smaller parcels of land, uh, without some accompanying amenities. So the consent decree for those of you aren't familiar with it,
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lies just to the west of us here.
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and Rosa Jones.
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it's the grayer parcels here on this map.
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and I'm going to come back to that.
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so I've tried it ‸ into a table for you to kind of compare, um, RU 17 is our standard single family zoning ‸ district. Then there's the RU 210, um, where we're removing this, uh, reference to. And then there's 215 and 225. And you can see here that they reference, um, building as regulated by 210. And that's the, the issue that we're, we're facing.
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Um, they all have basically the same building height and very similar lot coverages. RU 210 is a narrow lot.
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uh, is the same size as the RU 17 lot. And then in 225, it's a much larger sized,
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Um, so there's a, a comparability, if
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Um, at least as far as the lot sizes go.
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Yeah. The last time. So here's the, uh, all the setbacks. Um, again, you can see RU 17 and 215, or 210, excuse me, are, um, identical in their setbacks.
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And then 225 is slightly larger again. Um, and I wanted to point out that there's, there's two factors that I was looking at when we were
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this change. Um,
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that's redevelopment on existing zoned parcels in 215 or 225. And then the possibility of other lands being zoned to 215 or 225.
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a couple of, like a duplex or a triplex or something. Um, we haven't had a case where somebody has combined a lot of lots and then tried to, to build.
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Um,
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comes up periodically. The rezoning is more apt to be, it's been triggered in the past by, um, larger subdivisions, the potential for subdivisions.
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it's, uh, ‸ usually on a larger piece of property. So what I'd like to do, Monica, could you bring up the zoning map for me?
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Sure.
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Yeah. Okay. So the, let me see if I can use this. We may have to do some zooming in, Monica. Okay. This, you see the sort of golden color? That's land that's RU 215. The pale yellow is the single family RU 17. And then can you zoom into kind of this area down here?
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Sure.
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You've got to go to the, use the arrow, the plus arrow at the top of the screen to,
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unfortunately.
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mouse, you'll have to hit it about three times to. There you go. Yeah. How's that? That's good. So we have some more 215 here, um, in this area. And then this darker brown color is the RU 225. And those are the only areas where we really have that zoning right now. And it's specific. The, the district for RU 225 is kind of like a consent decree. It's, it's geographically listed as areas in, in close proximity to the downtown.
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higher density commercial of the downtown area.
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you have 225 here and here, and then other areas of the city, like I said, we have 215 up here, the, this area and then sporadically other places, um, in the city.
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So
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I was looking through, these are all very, for the most part, they're fairly small parcels.
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And then we have, like this became the,
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lakeside palm subdivision.
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lots. Because that was allowed at the time under the, the 210 district regulations.
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Do you have some questions? Yeah. I do have a question. Okay.
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On these lots, are you going to have a minimum square footage of the home?
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district. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I have a question.
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Yes.
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The bottom border, that's Rosalie Jones Drive, correct?
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Yes. Uh huh. Yeah. The property line.
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And this is primarily for the consent decree area, correct?
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Well, what we're doing is, is everything else. No, it's out, everything outside the consent decree.
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Okay. Yeah. And the zoning I read, where it requires the rear setback to be 15 feet, which is what it would be considered a backyard.
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Um, yes.
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That's what it says here. Yes. Yeah.
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That's the standard in...
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And that 15 feet looks like, about like this for me to,
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‸ I just wanted everybody to realize that. The other thing I wanted to ask is, to me, this basically means this, that's being presented to us.
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This is basically what it says to me.
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Hmm.
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um,
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and that was the issue from our last meeting that I had had, and when we talked,
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uh, uh,
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was hoping to get like, uh,
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uh,
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example of a square, I mean a rectangular box, how it would fit on the dimensions of where there's a corner lot, where there's a regular inside lot, to make it obvious. But basically, the point was that sides seemed okay. Eight foot and, and, um, 15 foot, and the other ones were 25 foot.
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And that was basically something that I showed a concern about, and I think that, uh, uh, Sal did too. Who? I mean, um, I'm, Susan, I'm sorry. I'm thinking too fast right now.
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amendment analysis, it
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Okay.
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Yeah, that's where the consent decree is roughly.
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Right. So it's outside the boundaries of the consent decree. Right.
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Well, that was my only concern. I don't know if it's anybody else on the board about the backyard, because...
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Can you go back to the, the presentation? Thanks. Are you down with this?
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case another question comes up. Thanks. Um, yeah. So the, yeah, there's the, the setbacks you're talking about. Right. So what we're saying is that what's proposed, if you build in 215, you're given the option of going with the 215 size, um, ‸ or going with the RU17 size? Well,
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it's the RU7 and the 210 that would allow only that depth in the rear backyard. Um, the sides, the setbacks, I can work with that. I mean, not that I can work with it. What I'm trying to say is it makes sense because as a developer, the six foot setback really is more like 16 feet between the houses, even though you don't see the, the setback when they're on the inside
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I have five foot. You even have five. Yeah, that's right. So it's 10. ‸ So that seems okay. And a corner is anywhere from 25 to 30, but it's the rear backyard. It's like, and then you, if you have a neighbor on the opposite side of you, you're only 30 feet away. And what can you do in a backyard 15 foot deep? You definitely, I don't know. Can you put a pool? No, no, I didn't think so. I mean, that's the only issue I see. As something that might, to me, not be attractive construction. As a matter of fact, we had Larry here, not too long ago, where he was, uh, discussing with everyone here about putting too much building on a piece of property. If y'all basically that's the bottom line. And this is doing exactly that,
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By the rear part only. Only. The others I
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live with is just the rear. And that's it. I don't want to take any more
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Okay. Let me just see what Trina's question was before I
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is at 30% maximum lot coverage? I think so, yes.
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me just, I think I had it up.
[00:15:22] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
There we go. For RU in seven days, it's 40% in the rest of the districts.
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Yeah. And so if I recall correctly, I think Susan and myself, we were concerned if the property had easements in the back of them.
[00:15:37] Speaker 8 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
And so
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if there's a drainage or utility easement, so that would maybe be five feet already. So now they've already lost five feet and they only have 10 to do anything. I think that was our concern last meeting.
[00:15:51] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, that was in addition to what I was saying. Yeah. She brought that up as another concern with the death.
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Well, that being said though, these are all old blocks.
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Right.
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They're all old blocks. So chances are the easement's going to be in the rear.
[00:16:11] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Right. But an easement and a setback act the same way. It just says you can't build in this area. Correct.
[00:16:19] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So. It's setting right on that easement line.
[00:16:21] Speaker 7 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
But for an accessory structure, Yeah. Accessories cannot go in the easement. Correct. And a swimming pool, I don't know.
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Correct.
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Yeah. Well, even putting a big porch out there.
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even putting a big porch or patio out there, they'd be restricted.
[00:16:40] Speaker 6
Well, but, ‸ and I hear what you're saying, but remember that the house isn't necessarily built up to the setback.
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‸ That's just the absolute bare minimum you have to leave
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as
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open space. Yes. In
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addition to the easement, I'll add an example that happened recently at a neighborhood meeting where there
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And the city went behind this one lady's house ‸ and created in the easement behind her house a retention area that didn't exist before. Because it's an easement, the city was allowed to do it. And she's had nothing but flooding. I don't know if any of y'all were there at that meeting. But now she's got a flooding issue that didn't exist until that was done.
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So,
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that's in all, those are all the points about a 15 foot rear that I wanted to bring up. The only good thing I see is that
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we
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got six inch diamond or trees.
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It's in here.
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Anyway, I just have one. I don't know if the city of Cocoa is. In the rear easement, if the accessory structure is on concrete, then yes, it has to be out of the easement. If you're just putting it on skids where it can be
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you
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can put it in ‸ easement. Correct.
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Typically, we don't allow structures in the easement.
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That will cause a problem.
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[00:18:35] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
An accessory structure has to have a five foot setback of its own from the property line. Which, most of those older lots have a five foot easement anyway, so ‸ that usually is comparable.
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It depends on whether ‸ the house is built to the back setback or not. Like I said, it's not always the case.
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I think we're getting
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‸ way beyond outside what we're asking because this, what we're looking for is to point to,
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going to mirror? And so what we've said in the ordinance is to say, you have a choice, you can either build under the 215 regulations or the 17, right?
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I correct? Yeah. Thank you. It's been a little while since I actually read the reference.
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The RU225, we established a specific, right? And we established specific setbacks for that.
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[00:19:58] Speaker 9
Yeah. Sorry, Dodie, just to add to that. So the, if you were to choose the RU17, then you would have the larger lot sizes. If you would choose the RU215, then you would have smaller lot
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size
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But you would have to also comply with the additional requirements of RU215. For example, the open space requirement. Right?
[00:20:24] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Correct. Right. Yeah. Right. That was the intent to give us development a little bit of an option.
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That's probably the right that I want to say a lot. I'm confused now.
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[00:20:39] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Sorry. Well, because you said the open space, let's face it, most of these lots in this area are older lots. They're not going to be, they're not going to have to have an open space because you're only going to be building one house. Right? Is that right? Well,
[00:21:02] Speaker 6
what we mean by that is the, the, that, it's
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a recreation.
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Uh
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huh.
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And I want to tear the house that's on there down and build a new one. Okay. It's a single family home. Right. Which is what most of them down here is going to be, correct? Right. Right.
[00:21:21] Speaker 6
Yeah.
[00:21:22] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay. That would just be as like if they were doing a subdivision. Exactly.
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Yes. Okay. Yes.
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I got the picture now.
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Right.
[00:21:32] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. That's what I said. ‸ You can ‸ balance both
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those scenarios, the, the infill of a single family home on a single lot by itself.
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[00:21:44] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
and you're good to go. But if you're building a subdivision, well then. Well, that's a, yeah, that's a different scenario.
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individual will be told that if you build your house this size, you only have a 15 foot rear setback and they could elect to reduce the footprint on their own.
[00:22:01] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Absolutely.
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‸ Yeah. Yeah.
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So
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if they choose to go as deep, but I can tell you there's some people that like to go to every inch. Oh,
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I know.
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[00:22:15] Speaker 3
It does happen.
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lots.
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That's true.
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Well, yeah, you go up, up very often.
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Well,
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you can go up the stories too. Yeah. There's several stories. You can go
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for
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stories. I don't know if anybody knows or read that, but you can go higher and then they're allowing you up
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to
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45 feet commercial. Is it 45 or 35?
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It
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depends on the, on the. Where the trust is set on the wall. Where was it? 35 feet.
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I
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know, but that's not really accurate.
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[00:23:01] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah. Okay. It's actually controlled by the, by the overlay district.
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Combinator. Seriously. Because normally that's what commercial building
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There
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two houses they just built,
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And one of them is three stories. And
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Well,
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if it's
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where the truss is set on. Yeah.
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Well, I'm just telling you that's how you measure it. Yes, I know. Because a roof can go up another.
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Well, guess what? It's hitting the 45.
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I thought the two of you met with the department head. I did.
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You did.
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Okay.
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Can a tiny house, I mean, it has to have somebody's square feet.
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Yes.
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Well, tiny homes are typically not really, that's a
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tough topic. They are
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usually, most of our zoning districts require
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feet at a minimum. Yeah.
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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Dodie, if you go back 50 years to around 1970, what
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Did we go ‸ into this kind of detail?
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It was a baby.
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district regulations, but they were there. They still existed, yeah.
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They were, in fact, I
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think they were changed in like 64 from the very generic to the specific districts we've got now. ‸ And they really haven't changed since.
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Do you think we're over managing a little bit? Yes. Or?
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No, because,
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you
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it's necessary. Avoid people taking advantage of some situation which they might do. Absolutely. That's really what it's all
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That's really what
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it's all about.
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that big in that area? If
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got that kind of money, you're going someplace else. That's right.
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Al. It
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depends on the area.
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mean, you might want to combine a couple lots and build a nicer house if it's near the river. You know, a larger, I should say nicer, larger.
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have smaller homes. But if
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they bought a couple of lots, if they were going to build a house on it, wouldn't they have to combine the lots? The smaller ones, yes.
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Yeah.
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You can always shoot them down like that.
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Anyway.
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Sorry. Okay.
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recommendation
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remains the same as it was that we approve the ordinance ‸ as, well, no, not as written. I apologize. You all have a revised copy that the attorney just provided us that does make a slight change,
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to what's presented, but makes ‸ a red
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reference to ‸ effective date of the ordinance in the RU 210 district, and then also
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215, referencing again the effective date of the ordinance.
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if I have this backwards, Kristen, but the intent really is to make sure that we're not creating non-conforming lots. So if something's existing now, we didn't want to create a scenario where something would be unlawful.
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that was the caveat.
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Okay. Someone like to make a motion?
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I'll make a motion that we approve that recommendation.
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Okay. Second. Second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
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Fair enough. Okay.
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Thanks. Just Monica's got to swap out my presentation. Sorry. We're moving away from the podium and the laptop here. And so she's going to in future be ‸ having
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all of
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that extra duty of swapping out. Okay. The second item also is owning text amendment and this one ‸ impacts the core commercial and
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district. So it's technically two zoning districts.
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the possibility of construction of townhomes as well as some single family homes or duplexes under core commercial zoning district regulations.
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a special exception. Um, not as a principal use. Right now they're prohibited uses.
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infill development, um, in, in those areas, uh, where we have a lot of these older lots that are small, um, and couldn't, uh, really become a larger, wouldn't, wouldn't be large enough without combining with a, a number of other parcels in order to support commercial, um, or larger residential development. Um, and I want to show you where we're talking about Monica. Can you do my other
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for me? And can you rotate it, uh, counterclockwise?
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that's why we're just gonna ‸ have to go around.
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Yeah. Uh, okay. Yeah. Keep going. Okay. Can you make it a little bit bigger too? I can.
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You just taught me how to do that at home.
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Well there
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To rotate it.
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Okay. So this is the, I didn't have a chance to get with IT and do a proper map for you, but the red outline is the area where the core commercial zoning district exists. So this is actually the waterfront overlay map. Um, so this area here north of, of,
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520, uh, is all core commercial.
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and Willard area. And then it's the west side of Florida. And then there's a little bit, if you wouldn't mind. Uh, and then
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goes down to the,
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these parcels down here,
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at the south end of the village area. So those are the properties that would be impacted. There are a couple of existing single ‸ family homes, um,
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just north up, up here.
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here, we have a couple of single family homes. And then we have one here on this little parcel right there.
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so, and I think you all have a, a printed out version. Yes. So if you can go back to my presentation, I'll,
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yes, ma'am.
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Sorry. That, um, sorry.
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It's okay.
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Does that encompass the consent decree over here?
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No, it's just to the northwest and south, or,
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east, northeast and south.
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Yeah.
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Um, I have a question. What basically brought on this idea for us to review as changing the use for the area that you just identified on the map? What created the... The ordinance
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or the need for the change? Right. Right? Um, two things. One, actually three things. One is there's an individual whose family home, uh, is the one little piece that's on the north side of 520, um, who would like to redevelop the house, or the property. And he's gonna ‸ have to take the house down in order to go two stories.
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that zoning district doesn't allow a house type of...
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Which would allow a townhome,
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according
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to this.
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in his case, it's the second change we're proposing, um, that affects ‸ the waterfront overlay. He wouldn't be able to build a house structure. The way that waterfront overlay district works, and I know it's impossible for you to read this, uh,
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The sub-districts allow uses, but these up here in the table, this list on the left is the sub-district name, and then across the top there are building types. And a house is a building type, and
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And house is not an option. It's not that he couldn't have a single-family home, it's, it's not about the use in the table, it's about the form. And so house wasn't an option for him, but that's what he'd need, and so that's why the change, that change. Um.
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the changes. The, uh,
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what started more the, the looking at the whole area was two things. One is, um, at the very south end of, I'll hold up the map, uh, for you again. Down here at the
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Um, we have a potential project that the city did an RFP, a request for a proposal a couple of years ago. And that was proposed to be townhomes, but they're not allowed ‸ in the core commercial district. So, that was a potential issue that may be coming up, and so we're trying to correct that, um, and kind of be, you know, a bit more, uh, consistent. And then we also have a, a development, um, potential
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property owner who approached us and said, I've got this property, you know, it's on, uh, Florida, it's in core commercial, I want to do
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Um, and I can't do that under, you know, the current zoning.
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That's,
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Um,
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in that neighborhood, just south of there, yeah. Oh,
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So, um, that's when we started taking a look at what, what else was built through there, and I discovered the other single family homes, which we have up at the north end of that, that stretch,
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overlay district,
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in the core commercial zoning. Um, so we're just trying to kind of clean up some.
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‸ What you have drawn here in blue, is that the location?
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No,
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it's not commercial, it's, it's, um, it was his grandmother's home. Right. Right. Okay.
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Yeah. But he can't rebuild another house.
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Not under the current zoning.
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But that's going to be in between all commercial right there, where everybody drives by like
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I know.
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trick would
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be to leave
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‸ a
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couple of walls up
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rebuild it.
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You know. And then he could do it. What's that? If he left up a couple of walls and did not demo that whole house, he could build a house. That's the way I understand it.
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That's the building code, but we're looking into zoning code.
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little different, yeah.
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Yes.
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Because it's existing. And if, um, this is a typical home over. It's
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just a scenario.
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Everywhere that I know that people build. I'll give you another example. Houses on the river, right on the waterfront in Boca and other
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way up there, you can see the whole house completely removed except for one or two walls. Well,
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they did that ‸ down
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There you go.
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They used to be able to get away with the setback.
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Because at that point, they're not demoing the whole house. Right. He tears the whole house down. That's different. That's different. But if he leaves two walls on the foundation. Yes. He's remodeling at that point. Right. Even though it's major. Yes. But theoretically, he could get away with doing that. Um. So it's not gonna matter if you change it or not.
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Well, ‸ it is.
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if
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it's that old. It is. It is. That
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particular house is, yes. But we're dealing with also vacant land.
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Yeah.
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And.
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I wanna ‸ know. Where all these people's gonna ‸ come from.
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Oh. You wait and see. We're already getting in hard.
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They're all gonna ‸ work for Amazon.
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‸ Very well. Almost.
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Two of them for, uh, retirees. And
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I'm just curious. You know, as I look at the
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I understand where the townhouses were proposed. Um, I know that across the street, the Mexican restaurant is up for sale. If somebody were to buy. That property. Yeah. And it extends pretty far back to the property. Does this. If I'm reading this right.
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If we approve this, that you can build on any of these properties. Yeah, I know
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townhomes, but.
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I I'm having
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So I'm just trying to see is it townhomes? Is it,
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Is this considered?
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particular piece is, yeah, is the south end. It's
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the south end. Okay. Yeah. So it can be.
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Sorry.
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me take.
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you.
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House.
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Cottage.
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Yep.
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Cottage. Townhome.
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Institutional too? What's institutional?
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Small and medium. And institutional. Which would be like a school, a library. Okay. Fire department, that sort of thing. Um. And then the single story commercial is an option on that lot.
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So why would the city go with an RFP? I'm just curious. ‸ Where would
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go out to an RFP and informally accept townhouses when it's not zoned for that?
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I can't tell you.
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Um.
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yeah, I'm not really sure.
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or maybe it was ‸ intended to make a change ‸ and we, you know, didn't do it at the time. And I
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‸ don't know, but, um.
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does open it up for other things than just townhouses too.
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There
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it
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is.
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Can we
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still, if it's changed, can you still build commercial there?
[00:40:31] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Oh, sure. Yes.
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does. Okay. Yes. Core commercial is essentially a commercial zoning district really. Yeah.
[00:40:38] Speaker 4
The other thing that is that finding it says here, um, in the downtown area where the CC district is located would allow, if we approve this, infill redevelopment
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residential developments without the combination of several
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So,
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you would, you would be in a position where you would have to purchase additional lots to be able to qualify.
[00:41:11] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No, no, um, it's to allow somebody to build on those smaller lots that exist without having, you know, so you could build a house on a lot rather than having to buy several lots in order to build a commercial building.
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apartments or something like that, you know.
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Um,
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so those, those little lots sit there and they don't get built. If you can't build single family on that small lot, which is about all it's
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really
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sized
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for.
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Which is probably what's
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there already.
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[00:41:51] Speaker 4
The point was brought out about the, uh,
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uh,
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uh, El Charro's restaurant there. There's, uh, ‸ smaller,
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uh,
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two small houses.
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remember. But they changed it into commercial use like that small bakery, ‸ it was a restaurant.
[00:42:07] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yeah, that's on the same parcel with El Charro. Yeah. It's a big, bigger piece now.
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Um,
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anyway,
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um, I think we've covered most of what I had in, in there. Um, that it would allow the, yeah, townhomes and the sub districts. Um, and single family and duplex uses, uh, in the other districts.
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to rebuild the house, um, where he couldn't do, do so in the King Willard sub district, um, with a house building type. Um, so staff's recommendation obviously is, uh, is that you approve, uh, the changes, um,
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if,
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let me ask you something.
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Presented
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by that ordinance.
[00:43:01] Speaker 4
If we don't approve this, then it all stays the same.
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that
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the city was going to put an RFP on it. Uh, if we, if this is not approved, it basically would mean that the parcels, a large one like that would be for, um, a large multifamily project, um, and or commercial.
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Correct.
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So this opens it up.
[00:43:34] Speaker 4
So it basically, according to Susan's point, that you could still build commercial there, even though we approve this. So if the one person that has the one house, which is right dead, where 520 traffic, that curve slows everybody down. Um, that could be rebuilt as another house with nothing but commercial all around it.
[00:44:00] Speaker 6
No. It ‸ is in King Willard, which, um, does not allow anything except medium, commercial medium. Everything else is dependent on,
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I
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know, really, this is so tiny.
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are
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and single story commercial.
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Mixed use medium
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residential? No. Commercial. All commercial. Right. So we're talking about...
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wanting to do is almost like spot zoning in between all that.
[00:44:51] Speaker 6
Um, it's not about the zoning so much.
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It's,
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it just has really strict, in his case, it really is about the form of the building that's allowed. Um,
[00:45:02] Speaker 4
‸ yeah. But we're talking about a residential structure with commercial all around it.
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Yes. Yes.
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Yes. So
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the left. Right. Or to the west.
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Yeah. Yeah.
[00:45:16] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Now if we change that though, can he build his house? Yes. No. No. No.
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He
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could build a commercial building.
[00:45:29] Speaker 4
I thought this whole...
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I thought
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that... I thought you were telling me that the whole purpose, that was one of the reasons that the, there's a request to change this idea to what's before us now, was for him to be able to rebuild his house. Yeah. Did I misunderstand something?
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Tell me your question again. Maybe I heard that wrong.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That little teeny spot. Yeah. Yeah. His parcel. You explained to me, or I, the way I understood it.
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Which is, he can't rebuild his house because he is surrounded by commercial. And if we approve this, he'd be able to rebuild his house.
[00:46:08] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
If you approve it, he would be able to rebuild a house. That's correct. Yes. I'm sorry.
[00:46:13] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I'm sorry. Yes. He will be able to. So, I'm looking at it, to me, with commercial all around it,
[00:46:27] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
it might not be your perfect home site,
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but it has emotional connection, which.
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you know what we're talking about. Right. This is a prime example of spot zoning.
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Prime
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of what we've talked about before. Even though I don't agree with what we've talked about
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before.
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I hear you. Between you and us. So we're going
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have one house in between all the commercial and the condo. Yes. If we approve this, that's what's going to happen.
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As a special exception.
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a special exception, yes. We
[00:47:08] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
have a house that's there now. Right. Yes. Right. So if we don't do anything, there's still going to be a house there. Right. Exactly. But it will be a commercial.
[00:47:18] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
No. It'll be a house. It's still there.
[00:47:21] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
It's still there.
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He can't rebuild it at this point. I understand, but he's not going
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to
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do anything with it. It's still going
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to
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be a house there. Well, until he wants to rebuild it. That's the
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problem. And
[00:47:31] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I've seen many houses changed to commercial
[00:47:34] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
use. I don't see how you can use that house getting in and out of there. I don't either, sir. But basically, I'll give you another example. ‸ Besides
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there is a house there that we have very old. And
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they
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redid it, and now it's being used as a real estate office, which
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But that's all.
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But if
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anyone else wanted to do this, what this gentleman's requesting, they would have to have a special exception as well. Each and every time. Is that correct? Yes. That's
[00:48:07] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
correct. ‸ All of the... Exactly. Any... Yes, exactly. Any single family... So it isn't granted
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a lot of them? Oh,
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no, no.
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a special exception.
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Correct.
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That changes it.
[00:48:24] Speaker 5
Yes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like, based on this drawing, that it would be a substandard lot for improvement for a residential property. So that's where the special
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variance will
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come in. Is that what we're talking about?
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It's... You know,
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But it's possible in rebuilding that it might need
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to,
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I don't know. I don't know if the lot's subsized for its zoning. And if it is, then yes,
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it possibly
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need a variance or something for...
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I
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don't
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know. No, it's a two bedroom outhouse.
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His
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grandfather did. So, two bedroom with an outhouse. That's how old it is.
[00:49:10] Speaker 4
I didn't know that you visited there, Sherry.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. There's probably a plat ‸ there. I don't know. I'm sure it was platted.
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So, if it's
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a non-conforming
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lot of record,
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that house. Not really. Because I've had a non-conforming lot of record. And there were two parcels I did on Peachtree Street near the river. And I had to go before the board to get approval for enhancing the non-conforming identity of that property.
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And apparently, for what I wanted to do, they agreed that it was minimal added invasiveness,
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I
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guess I could say for lack of a better term, that enlarged already a non-conforming situation. It was minimal enough that it wasn't ‸ significant
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for a
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concern.
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I mean, you know.
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It was platted that
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way.
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it to the same square footage,
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you
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can do it. That's true.
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Actually,
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no.
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Can't you see ‸ in our code, it says you can ‸ rebuild a single-family home on a non-conforming lot of record if it's in a zoning district that allows single-family homes. And this isn't just. So, right. You can't rebuild. Unless you make the change.
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Yes. Well, no, yes. ‸ If we approve this, there's a special request, a special exception that needs to be made for his needs for that lot even though we approve this.
[00:51:10] Speaker 5
That's correct.
[00:51:10] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Is that correct? Yes. Well,
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probably
[00:51:13] Speaker 3
won't be able to afford it.
[00:51:15] Speaker 4
Well, that's not our business. No, I know.
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How
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do you want this worded? Oh, the motion? Yes. Um, it depends on what your motion is.
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If
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you're motion to
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approve the item, then a
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recommendation motion to approve, you know, Kristen, you're better at this than I ‸ perhaps, but just to. Yeah,
[00:51:44] Speaker 9 + overlapping voice
well, I guess it just depends if you're, if you're copying the
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recommendation, I would
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be
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okay. Then it would just be that you would move to approve. Um, the ordinance as, as staff is recommended.
[00:51:59] Speaker 5
Excellent. I do that.
[00:52:03] Speaker 1
Second. Okay.
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[00:52:06] Speaker 1
do that. We have a motion of it.
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Okay. Uh, that's legal, right? ‸ Okay. Your motion is second.
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Opposed. Okay.
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Okay.
[00:52:24] Speaker 1
Thank you.
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We
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move on now to the.
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[00:52:31] Speaker 6
Um, just to let you know that, um,
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was a question about who, who do we have on staff?
[00:52:37] Speaker 1
Right.
[00:52:37] Speaker 6
So the former arborist for the city is now a project manager and, um, and not actively, um, under his, his former license. However, um, public works tells me that there are two more people who are in the process of gaining,
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So
[00:52:53] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
that's, yeah, that was very good to hear. Um, so, uh, let you know when that becomes official.
[00:53:00] Speaker 5
Good.
[00:53:01] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That was it.
[00:53:02] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
I have a question on the subject. Has there been, I've noticed that it's been very quiet about any tree issues that, uh, there was a concern about having them removed or not. Has it been quiet or has there been any issues? Nothing
[00:53:16] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
has, has come to us. Nothing's been brought up? Yeah, it's been pretty quiet.
[00:53:19] Speaker 4
Yeah.
[00:53:22] Speaker 1
Okay. Important discussion. Tony, I think what's the biggest major issue facing the city right now?
[00:53:30] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's so open-ended. The biggest issue, uh, aside from COVID, I, I, I don't know. Um, I'm not sure even where to begin to answer that. Um,
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It
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was,
[00:53:47] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
wasn't it? Yes. We've got a lot of new jobs coming up with
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new
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projects.
[00:53:51] Speaker 6
We have good things happening. Yes.
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Yes, sir.
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bunch of money. But I still haven't seen a silver term.
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That
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takes a while.
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Why?
[00:54:09] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice
Well, the other good news is that now, and I was discussing this with the city manager, that, uh, we have, uh, excelled the time it takes to get a permit.
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And one was, uh, given as an example of a person needing to replace, uh, their windows with high, uh, impact windows. And that was done online like that. Uh, there was a two others and everybody is just excited about that because it is a good way to change the reputation we had. And I've said it before that you, if you want to build something,
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‸ Because it takes forever to get the permits. Yes.
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that we've started already through, uh, our new city manager. I think that's one thing. Online permitting. Yeah. I'm sorry.
[00:55:04] Speaker 5
‸ Online permitting process. This is helping as well.
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I
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can't hear
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you.
[00:55:08] Speaker 4 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Online permitting.
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[00:55:13] Speaker 3
Even thanks Stockton for
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that.
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Okay. I had
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this, we had those guys here a couple of
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there.
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I just
[00:55:24] Speaker 5
can't remember.
[00:55:25] Speaker 6
It was.
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Several
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months ago.
[00:55:26] Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I
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know. Michael.
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‸ I
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have a question.
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It was
[00:55:39] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
in the newspaper as a matter of fact yesterday. I didn't read. I just saw the headline. I haven't read it yet either. But I did see an email come across to say that yes in fact that that had been announced. But I don't know exactly when they're going to actually break down.
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I can't remember what they said. Yeah.
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[00:56:05] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That would probably, that would make sense.
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‸ But if you're
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doing
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package delivery, you want to be
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in operation
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before the Christmas rush.
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They
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approved
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it.
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[00:56:17] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
That's
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right.
[00:56:18] Speaker 1
‸ I mean, that's true.
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I
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can
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order something and bring it right over there. Yes, ma'am.
[00:56:23] Speaker 7
I just wanted to add a comment to what Al said. A lot of times in the site plan phase, it's not really the city that's holding it up. It's St.
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So there's other agencies too in that site plan process
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have to
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[00:56:52] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
We are actually just, ‸ that was approved, the one you're talking about for the Winn-Dixie site. Yeah, that went to council and was approved. But there's conditions on the approval and I'm needing ‸ a set of plans to be sent back, to be revised and sent back to us. And then the development agreement needs to be signed and that's going to be like the next step. So there's still, ‸ it's a process.
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which by the way is an example of
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a
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hotel. There was a lot of time and money invested and it's finally gotten through them. How are we? What's the next stage?
[00:57:38] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
The developer's in phase two. And so he's working on securing several things.
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will be. Financing a new market study.
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[00:57:57] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
then if the brand.
[00:57:59] Speaker 4
New? And it's only been a year old?
[00:58:02] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Really? It's part of the development agreement, yeah.
[00:58:04] Attribution uncertain
This
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is tough to respond
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to.
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changed based on whichever brand, hotel brand. Because they'll bring their own, you know, needs or preferences. And so that may. So that's, we're okay then I
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guess.
[00:58:24] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice
It's still, yeah, progressing. Yeah.
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[00:58:30] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
As far as ‸ the development
[00:58:31] Speaker 6 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
agreement has time frames in it where certain things have to be.
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Has he given any projection on that yet?
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He's still in the, in this process really. Yeah.
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to provide all those plans and
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So, um. Okay.
[00:58:56] Speaker 4
To help answer your question, once all this paperwork is done, which now we're a lot closer than normal, the,
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a year. So, if, it, it's really the paperwork and all the information and all that, that really drags us out. The actual construction is a lot faster.
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I'm sorry.
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Yes.
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She's right. You know, since I've been on this board, we have changed that, the zoning code, I don't know how many, how much there was. But look at how many apartment buildings and businesses and everything
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He's right. Like
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And we can.
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That's exactly right.
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We
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do
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that.
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It's their property. They're going to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, you
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we do move a little slow on occasion.
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of duty in London or Paris and
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came
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back after three years.
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I volunteer. Could
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you notice any difference?
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I
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mean, really, it's just. I can tell you
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a half years.
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a year and a half and we had four traffic lights in one line. Yeah.
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Yeah.
[01:00:45] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So, yeah, there's a lot going on there.
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Emerald Lakes
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was completed just in the last couple of years.
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Creek's extended within the last couple of years.
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All right. Our next board meeting is what?
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Yes, you're right. Okay. I
[01:01:18] Speaker 3
didn't notice that.
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I had a special
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request.
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[01:01:23] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Remember my message? I said I'd be here if you were serving
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Oh.
[01:01:29] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Sorry. ‸ Okay.
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