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Code Enforcement

Code Enforcement Regular Meeting

Date
2023-03-16
Status
City minutes and machine transcript available
Source
CivicClerk event #1000
Built from the City's minutes records — no AI-written text Briefing final

The City's record

What the City's record shows

Built only from the City's minutes (1362_CE_Reg_Minutes_03_16_2023.pdf). Page numbers are the minutes' own. Discussion is in the minutes' text; it is not summarised here.

Attendance (the roll call)

  • Listed present when the roll was taken: Lloyd Roberts, George Brown, Michael Simpson, Chris Davis, Verna Hughes, Aurora Ramirez
  • (Checked against the ballots and the printed roll lines; no independent membership list of this board is available to confirm that the roll is complete.)
  • Listed absent: David Lightholder, Sharri Scott, Josue Otero
  • Also listed as present (staff and other roles): Dennis Bunt (Code Enforcement Manager), Augusto Gonzalez-Ruiz (Code Enforcement Officer), Vince Buonocore (Code Enforcement Officer), Michael Folger (Code Enforcement Officer), Debra Babb-Nutcher (Board Attorney), Darla Crowl (Recording Secretary)

Adopted actions (16)

  • to approve to the agenda of March 16, 2023 (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 1
  • to approve to the minutes of February 16, 2023 (moved by Hughes, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and a fine of seventy-five dollars ($75.00) and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 2
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and give the property owner until September 15, 2023 (180 days) and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Simpson, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 3
  • to amend Staffs recommendation and give the property owner until July 15, 2023 (120 days) a fine of one hundred dollars ($100.00) per day and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Davis, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to amend Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation and a fine of one hundred dollars ($100.00) be imposed per day until found in compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 4
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Brown, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staffs recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation (moved by Simpson, seconded by Brown); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Brown, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 5
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Brown, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 6
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Simpson); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to approve Staff's recommendation and find the Owner in Non-Compliance (moved by Davis, seconded by Hughes); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 7
  • to amend staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) (moved by Simpson, seconded by Davis); CARRIED — the City's minutes, p. 9

Money named in the minutes' motions (what each motion did with the amount, in its own words)

  • $75.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staff's recommendation and a fine of seventy-five dollars ($75.00) and find the Property Owner in violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1362_CE_Reg_Minutes_03_16_2023.pdf, p. 2); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $100.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staffs recommendation and give the property owner until July 15, 2023 (120 days) a fine of one hundred dollars ($100.00) per day and find the Property Owner in violation” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1362_CE_Reg_Minutes_03_16_2023.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $100.00 — Code Enforcement: decided in an adopted motion. “amend Staff's recommendation and find the Property Owner in violation and a fine of one hundred dollars ($100.00) be imposed per day until found in compliance” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1362_CE_Reg_Minutes_03_16_2023.pdf, p. 4); fiscal period not recorded)
  • $1,000.00 — Code Enforcement: recommended to another body (City Council decides; not a final approval). “amend staff's recommendation to City Council the lien reduction be in the amount of one thousand dollars ($1,000.00)” (motion result: CARRIED; the City's minutes (1362_CE_Reg_Minutes_03_16_2023.pdf, p. 9); fiscal period not recorded)

Agenda (the City's wording)

The City's agenda for this meeting is on file (CE_Reg_Agenda_03_16_2023), but its item list has not been read reliably by machine yet, so no outline is shown.

Transcript Partial transcript

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right. Good evening. Good evening.
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Meeting on today, April 20th, 2023.
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order and we'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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All right. We'll have our roll call.
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Lloyd
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Roberts.
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Here.
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George Brown.
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Present.
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Dave Lightholder.
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Absent, unexcused.
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Sherry Scott. Here. Michael Simpson.
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Absent, unexcused.
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Bernie Hughes. Here. Chris Davis.
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Aurora Ramirez. Here. Josue Otero.
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Present. And now we'll proceed with the swearing in of our officers.
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You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Yes, ma'am.
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All right. Before we approve the agenda, we have some modifications to the agenda. On our regular agenda, item number four has been tabled.
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Item number 10 is tabled.
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Okay. So. All right. So with that, I'll take a motion to approve the agenda.
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Motion to approve.
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Second.
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Second by Mr. Brown. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed. Motion passes. Approval of the meeting minutes from our last meeting, March 16th. Any ‸ amendments needed?
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All right.
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Motion to approve. Motion to approve. I'm sorry. Motion by Mr. Davis.
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All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed. Motion passes.
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Yeah. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to submit the PowerPoint and their document packet into the record.
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So done. Thank you very much, sir. With that, we'll move on to our item number one, CE 23-0032.
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The address is 1205 West U Drive for the record.
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The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of permit required. Appendix A Article 15 Section 2A for the work completed outside the purview of the permit as well as re-roof completed without a permit as stated in the building inspector's comments.
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the building inspector. I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case that as
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I have
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contact the property owner. I brought this case before the code enforcement board as I've been working this case for 90-98 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent
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and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case 23-0032 that the owner is in violation and recommends 30 days be given to come into compliance or a fine of $25 be imposed for each day the violation remains until
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compliance is achieved.
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Is there anyone here for the property? Yes, sir.
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Good evening. Good evening, sir. Joseph DeLeo here on behalf of the property owner,
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that means
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to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the truth to help you, God? I
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do.
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In the microphone, can you please state your name
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I'm sorry?
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Which address? Personal address?
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Yes.
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uh
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I proceed.
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Yes, sir.
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Okay. Thank you. So, uh good evening. um Joe de leo here on behalf of the uh owner. um The packet that I received showed that the uh city is showing the permit to, um
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July 12th of 2023. And if I may approach, I have some copies of this. I don't know thank
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was he aware of any of these permits in reference to, because you obviously received a stop work order for working without a permit, because if you had a permit for what they issued you a stop work order for an extension, we wouldn't be here today. And this would have been cleaned up before we even got here.
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I was just um explaining that there was multiple permits. There's one for an interior renovation. um Apparently there was roof work done, and there is no permit on the record for that. And then the complaint from the building department was that they were working outside the scope of the other permit. So um
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But for the roof, they do not, according to the code officer. And they were working outside the scope of one of the permits that was issued.
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Now, sir, ‸ question to you.
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What is the permit for? Renovations. So i if you define what you mean by working outside of the scope, the permit specifically states renovations and electrical.
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‸ Okay.
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Let's make sure the code officers get a copy of this permit.
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So it's my understanding uh that the contractor that my clients hired, jc Marshall, um with Rocket City Construction, there was an inspection that was done uh in January and uh just just prior to the six month permit expiring. And based on that, uh the permit was extended about another six months, which this view permit shows uh an extension until uh
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So
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under the violation cited, it just basically says you're working without a permit. um you know And this shows that that's not the case. They are uh working uh under a permit at this point in time. So, uh we would respectfully ask that, uh the board, um not, follow the recommendation of the the code enforcement officer. And if there's some other thing that's, that's out there that, uh the city's concerned with, um ‸ to please, you know, let us know. But as far as what the violation allegation is working without a permit, um this shows that they are working under a permit because it was indeed extended.
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Now, question. If I can, before we move on. Yes, sir. um I want to submit and I'll show them before I pass it to you. This is the inspection comments from the building inspector, which clearly states, under number two, that a new roof was installed with no permit on record. And then for the interior renovations that was taking place, they needed product approval for the windows and some other items done that they already completed. That was not mentioned in the scope of work when
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permit was submitted. So I'll show this to them and I'll submit it into evidence. Now.
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you said there was a permit now to your knowledge, exactly what was the permitting for, the
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permitting for
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because if I'm not mistaken from what I understand, there are multiple permits that were required for you to have, and you had to get multiple permits, roof electrical. So those
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are separate. Correct.
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And that's what I understood that
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I understood it
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be. I was not aware
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um with a miscellaneous renovation. What's
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that? Because
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So can you further explain that for me,
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please?
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The
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permit for interior renovation is. The interior, obviously, and it's whatever they put into their scope. So when his contractor submitted for the permit, he said, we're going to do an interior renovation. So
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we're going to do sheetrock We're going to do this and they list the scope of work. So what had happened was windows and other things were done. That's not on the scope of work, not included in the permit. So
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because that work was technically done without inspections and without being a part of the permit.
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a separate roofing permit um and has to be done by a roofing contractor. So that's what they need to go to the building department for. We need a permit for the roof and they need to revise and provide product approval for the rest of the interior stuff that was done.
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Yes, sir. And I just wanted that on record.
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No problem.
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um So in other words, do you understand what he's saying? ‸ So the things that were done were done outside of the scope of your permit. So you may have gotten an extension on the permit that you had, but the work that you did that I'm sorry, your contractor did was outside of the scope. So now between your contractor and the building department, they need to go back to modify what you originally got. So now it meets all the specifications of what you need okay because we, if not, we'll be running around in circles with this, um for a while. And that's not the goal here. Our goal is for you to help you get what you need so you can help yourself and the city, um be beautiful. Bottom line.
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So, so, trying to say we need to get a roofing permit, right? And product. Well,
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you need to do a revision to your interior renovation. So you have to come in and say, okay, besides what you have written as the scope of work, we're going to do. ‸ we are also adding windows. We're going to fix plumbing. We're going to do this. So whatever they're missing, you have to add. So
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new scope of work
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and did that plus this. So he has to add that both of these items can be done very quickly. A revision for the scope. You just have to go to the building department and they'll revise the permit and fix it. The roof permit is not a difficult permit. You apply for that. That's usually within three to four days. It's considered what they call an over-the-counter permit.
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Mr. Marshall's a GC. So he would not be the one to do the roof. He'd have to get a subcontractor a roofing contractor to do it. But the main issue here today for no permit is the roof. The other one, you have a permit. You're just working out of the scope of it and you have to
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the clarification because we thought the city was saying we don't have a
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We do. So that that clarifies it. So we can have Mr. Marshall uh do the revision of the scope of work and then
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and hopefully move forward. So
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with that being said, um that sounds like something that would be really simple. um he gets on it, probably take him a couple
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days. So
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‸ So I think this could be settled. um you guys take care of that. You see them and we're done with this part. okay So I'll take a motion.
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I knew, uh that we follow staff recommendations in case
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the roof, which is already completed. How do you know all the steps that have been taken to put that roof on properly if the roof is already installed?
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because they're going to inspect it. What they'll do is
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how they put it on there. That'll be submitted. And then the building inspector, they'll have to still call for a final inspection and he'll go out and make sure that what's present is what's listed on the permit. And they'll make their approval that way. They
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can check off all the boxes.
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Correct. It'll just be an after the fact permit.
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Davis. Second by Mr. Brown. All in favor, say aye aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion passes. All right. I look forward to this being taken care of and you guys have a good one. all right Thank you. Thank
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Just a
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little tidbit for you.
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So you might want to look at that before you go back to modify. Yeah.
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Well, that's interesting because I had a conversation with him earlier. Extra
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little tidbit.
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Yeah. um And he said that, uh just hi, Jim. Just wanted to show
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Still active on 1205 west view And he put, yes,
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Okay.
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That's still
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covered Yes.
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Yeah. all
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right All
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right. Thank you. All right. frank Thank you very much.
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The address and question is 3645 Longbow Road, case number 22-0884. For the record, my name is Michael Folger, Code Enforcement Officer. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case.
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during my visits and show my findings of
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I visited this site four times during my first inspection and found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the City Code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection on 4 20 2023 the property remains in violation.
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to contact the property owner. I brought this case before the Code Enforcement Board as we've been working this case for 157 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent notice of hearing on 3 11 2023 and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation.
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be imposed due to repeat offenses until compliance is achieved
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was this noticed as a repeat violation
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No, this is not a repeat violation. This is a regular violation. Oh,
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I thought they have
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a repeat violation that's ongoing, but it's not for the fire damage structure.
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Okay.
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So is this
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Yes, due to the severity and the gravity of the violation and the health and safety of the neighborhood, we've we're asking for 250 because this is actually an unsafe structure from fire damage. And so we're asking that it be corrected.
[00:20:12] Speaker 5
Is it occupied?
[00:20:14] Speaker 2
‸ It's not supposed to be occupied because the damage is severe. However, we receive complaints that they are living there at night and going there and running a generator. That's not what we cited per se, because we haven't seen that, but they should not be in there. It's an unsafe structure.
[00:20:30] Speaker 3
Are there any utilities that are on water there? Gas?
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Um, I'm pretty sure that they probably shut off the water meter, but I can't attest to that. That would be the code inspector.
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Is there anyone here for the property now?
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Hi.
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All right, ma'am. You need to be sworn
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in.
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Are you both going to speak?
[00:20:58] Speaker 13 (introduced as “Victoria Tucker” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Yes. My name is Victoria Tucker.
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You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Yes. I do.
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My name is Victoria Tucker. I'm the owner of the property. Due to, um, the crisis. You need to state your
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address also, please.
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that I incurred.
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So I have, um, I have my power of attorney here to speak for me. If that's the right.
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Yes, ma'am. Step up. State your name and your address, please.
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Hi. My name is Brooke Pierce. I live at [address].
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What can you tell us, ma'am?
[00:21:44] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Um, so I do understand the fire happened December 15th. I was there the very next day helping her.
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Uh,
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Uh, we made several trips to the scrapyard and the dump and whatnot. Got rid of all the stuff in the yard. I ‸ do have pictures, but they're in my phone still. I just need somewhere to forward them. Um, she's also drawn up a construction contract. We went down and spoke to, uh, will.
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Yes,
[00:22:25] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
yes, ‸ we spoke to him today and he told us exactly what we needed to do. Um, our intent is within the next 30 days to secure a, um, general contractor so that they can get an assessment of the extent of damage. Um, she will not be leaving at the property at all. Uh,
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we're going to be taking the advice of that general contractor throughout the entirety of the renovations.
[00:22:51] Speaker 3
Um. Um, ma'am, you are the power of attorney. Correct.
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just a few questions. The code enforcement officers have been working on this for 157 days. Um, they've been trying to get in touch with someone and the goal is for us to get an idea of what's going on. So if possible, we can see what there is, what's available to help assist you as a
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through your crisis. And number two, ‸ help you overhaul your home so you could get back into it and, um, live in your home. Um, but what's going on in reference to just being able to be in contact with them too. So they understand what's going on.
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Um, I'm more than happy to provide my most of the people that speak with her and contacting me anyways.
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Not sure why you haven't been able to get a hold of her through her cell phone personally.
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behalf as a power of attorney. And I work
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from home.
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Miss Tucker. So we have had conversations with them if they're going to work towards a permit. They need some extra time. And of course, staff is not opposed to that.
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‸ But if they say they got it cleaned up, we can always go out and do an inspection tomorrow and take a look at the accumulation portion. The biggest problem is getting the structure secured because with the weather and the way things go, it's just getting worse and worse. And it's, it's structurally on sound at this point in time. So they need to hurry up with the fixing it and securing it and sealing it up. Um, when was that out there? Uh, Mr. Folger was out today.
[00:24:50] Speaker 3
‸ So. And Mr. Folger to your testament, there's still trash and litter.
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There was some that has been removed, but there's a large portion on the back
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You can see it there. I can't see behind there, so I don't know what's back there.
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Um. Was
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trash cans out by the side of the road today? But this was what was there before. Uh, today this was taken in December. Um, and that's where that large plastic
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hanging up right now behind that. So I don't know what's behind there
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December 15th.
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no, she actually the home was duly owned by between her and her mother and her mother would not as the owner go in and sign any documents for insurance. She has since and I have documents of all this if it's if it's needed, uh, she has since relinquished full ownership to Victoria.
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power of attorney over.
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Um, where was the other property where the violation occurred? Same property, the same property.
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Yes, sir.
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‸ You mentioned it being a repeat, but it wasn't.
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Not for these same items. It was a, it has been a repeat in the past.
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She was cited for storing outdoors and accumulation ‸ and ran a fine came in, got a lien reduction. And then she repeated that same violation was brought to the board, found
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So that case has never been closed as a repeat and the fire just occurred as the repeat was going.
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we reduced it to?
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I don't have that in front of me.
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how long are
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you
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actually
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the GC in motion? What is your level of comfort on this particular one? Because this is clearly a danger for
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[00:27:17] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · Machine re-recognized
If she's actually entered into a contract with a GC, it's not impossible to get a permit and begin work in 60 days. I would probably
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the scope of work and there are some structural damage load bearing beams and stuff that are going to be looked at so I would not be opposed to 90 days but because we started in December we don't want the building to continue to rot and deteriorate and ‸ end up collapsing or hurting anybody.
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‸ correct I mean I agree but I can't speak for them I don't know how fast they're gonna ‸ go or how fast they're gonna ‸ move. So again, staff would be inclined to go with more time.
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they haven't even applied for a permit
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that we table this, to give her time to hopefully, before we even come back to this, get something as far as the, get with the general contractor to hopefully get a contract. So they come to you first before it would even come back here in reference
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so now next month we know there was some progress even though there hasn't been any progress ma'am I have to be
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were in on December 17th
[00:29:18] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
yes I do agree
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so we you have to get some kind of motion going because in theory we cannot allow this to continue in which there's been no progress and then now just as of today you just started moving stuff
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understand so ‸ with all due respect I think that based on her prior history that it wouldn't be appropriate to table it I think that officer Folgers demonstrated the case clearly and that we have all the information we need to make it
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[00:30:02] Speaker 3
well I understand that but this is how I'm looking at it I just want to be transparent
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this happens and say she runs starts running fines, she hasn't had money to get the house going as of yet and it's been 157 days.
[00:30:23] Speaker 5
when you've had violations in the past then you're a nuisance to the community and that's why we exist
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so
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and I see a lot of houses that have obviously had a storied past and this sounds like to be one of them just they can't stay in compliance and it's not fair to their neighbors
[00:30:53] Speaker 11 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Mr. Chair yes ma'am yes
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ma'am please
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motion. Either ‸ we make a motion and she does what she needs to do within the 90 days ‸ and it comes back to us in that time frame and we have to do things like condemn the house or things of that nature.
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prolonging this house being a danger to the neighborhood. I just, I don't agree.
[00:31:49] Speaker 3
Well, and now my rationale is if we table it, we're not looking to give any additional time because ‸ if nothing is done by the time we come back, okay, now we are still working on the same 30 days because now if we give her 90 days and she does nothing, we're still going on 90 days. So if we table it, now in 30 days, we'll know she has progress or she doesn't. So now we go with staff recommendation at that point. Now we're not in an additional 60 days. You understand what I'm saying? So that's what I'm trying to avoid,
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[00:32:33] Speaker 5
Well, she's had a
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lien
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reduction in the past. Yeah, she understands the process. Well,
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she will still have to come back to this same board for a
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reduction. So let's understand and remember that.
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[00:32:49] Speaker 5
I feel that 60 days is appropriate.
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[00:32:53] Speaker 15
I have a question. You're looking to hire a GC, correct?
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But
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the property was uninsured.
[00:33:02] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Correct. The GC suggestion is
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today and we've told him everything about the property and everything included. And that was his suggestion to us. To get a ‸ general contractor to assess the extent of damage first before any permits can be pulled.
[00:33:21] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Yes, the building official is going to require a general contractor to do all the work. Well, if not a general, at least a residential contractor. That would be who has to pull the permit in order to get the house ‸ up to speed. So he would recommend that.
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And he probably
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inside. Again, this probably should have been done 150 days ago.
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[00:33:51] Speaker 15
I was just wondering, since the property is uninsured, the monies that it's going to cost to do this.
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[00:34:01] Speaker 15
Yes. Yeah, me too.
[00:34:02] Speaker 5
Do you have assets available to do this renovation to pay your contractor?
[00:34:08] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Correct. She does get a monthly income from her social security. All of those funds are going to be put towards any of this stuff. I also will be helping as much as I possibly can. I've taken a leave of ‸ absence to help her deal with this from my own job. And that's going to be at least three to four months that I have a leave of absence where I can dedicate my full time to this.
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And we are working to get a loan. Her daughter is willing to co-sign on a loan from a bank. I understand that that's going to require some insurance as well. We haven't got that laid out in stone. But that is something we are working towards as well because we just now found out that she had a credit score high enough to co-sign on a loan for that.
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[00:34:50] Speaker 3
Mr. Brown, Ms. Mr. Otero, Ms. Ramirez, you have anything?
[00:34:55] Speaker 1
I have a question. Why is this
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considered unsafe structure? Is it going to collapse or is it just stuff that has to be done to it?
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The interior load bearing beams, let me go back to this picture, have been destroyed. So if you look, the entire roofing system has burnt through. So the fire obviously got up inside the attic and burnt through. So it's open to the elements. And then all of these exposed trusses and everything that you see in these photos, all the load bearing beams have been destroyed. So they're going to have to tear the roof off and basically do a new roofing system. And then you're going to have to put in place all the damaged load bearing beams to support the roof and go through. So, yes, structurally, it is on sound.
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Yes, absolutely.
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[00:36:02] Speaker 2
So, yes, ‸ there is structural components. This just isn't an interior renovation. This just ‸ isn't taking out some sheetrock and replacing it. There
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structural components that need to be done, which is why I'm assuming the building official recommended that they get a general contractor or residential contractor to assess whether the structure is worth rehabbing or does it need to come down and be rebuilt. And that's why I'm assuming he suggested that.
[00:36:30] Speaker 15
Thank you. I have another question. Is this home in her name alone now?
[00:36:37] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Now it is, yes.
[00:36:38] Speaker 15
You've already changed the title and everything.
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‸ Like I said, I had been working. I took the leave of work to be able to do
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this.
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insurance policy to be issued, it has to be in her name.
[00:36:52] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Yes, we just have to update the deed.
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[00:36:57] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Sometimes it was like right after the event happened. It's a quick claim. ‸ We just have to get it filed, which I will take full responsibility for myself and do it.
[00:37:06] Speaker 2
So just to answer your question, the property is still in her and her mother's name. The quick claim has not been filed and therefore it has not changed over yet. But that can be done.
[00:37:18] Speaker 15
Yeah, I know that.
[00:37:19] Speaker 2
Okay. Thank you.
[00:37:21] Speaker 5
Chair, you want to make a motion?
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You ready? Any other questions? Yes.
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have
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learned. Are there any programs that
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can
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help on that? It looks like they're going through ‸ financial hardship. Is there anything out there that they can qualify for?
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So that's not going to be available to anybody else for the rest of the year.
[00:37:49] Speaker 2
And about the only thing that she could do is check with Habitat for Humanity, but they're probably going to want a co-venture.
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waiting list and going.
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[00:38:06] Speaker 2
A, no insurance and the structure. I don't think the structure will last six months. I think you're going to start seeing collapsing or the roof falling in based on my inspection. And I believe the building official would agree with that. The longer it waits, the worse it's going to get for this structure.
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[00:38:27] Speaker 9
I think I have to agree with the 60 days. I don't think we should table. It sounds like
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both parties understand the process.
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[00:38:44] Speaker 3
came back. And if we're not going to table it, I'd rather go with staff recommendation. That's just me. Because again, I understand what, I understand what they're going through, but I would prefer either table it. Because next time was not going to be any more time or we go with staff recommendations. Bottom line, clear cut.
[00:39:12] Speaker 1
There's no way
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could be repaired in 30 days.
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Well, think about this. ‸ If they got the permit, what has not been done in 157 days, not
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back and do a lien reduction, which they are very familiar with on how to do.
[00:39:33] Speaker 3
Yes. Yes, ma'am. So that's why I'm, I'm inclined with either
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[00:39:42] Speaker 3
That's just my thought.
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[00:39:49] Speaker 11
I can make a motion. I don't mind going with staff recommendation at all.
[00:39:54] Speaker 2
Yes, ma'am.
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Okay. I'd like to
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[00:40:01] Speaker 11
And I'd like to make a motion for unsafe structure accumulation of trash and litter to go with staff recommendation with 30 days with a, or a fine of $250 per day thereafter.
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Davis. All in favor say aye.
[00:40:22] Speaker 5
Aye.
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[00:40:25] Speaker 3
Opposed.
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[00:40:31] Speaker 3
one against motion passes. I'm sorry. Everyone voted. Mr. Brown voted against. One, two, three, four, five.
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Thank you sir. Mr. Chair, you need to vote.
[00:40:58] Speaker 3
Yes, ‸ ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
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be completed in the 30 days?
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I think Mr. Bunt said, if you get a general contractor to start a permit, work begins, and you'll be all cured.
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Right.
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Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much.
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And stay
[00:41:24] Speaker 11
in complete communication with officer Folger.
[00:41:28] Speaker 14 (introduced as “Brooke Pierce” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Absolutely. And I would need to get, because I hadn't been involved up until just recently. And now that I have that time off work, I'll be able to, I just need contact information.
[00:41:41] Speaker 1
Can I ask a question even after the vote?
[00:41:44] Speaker 3
Yes, sir.
[00:41:45] Speaker 1
I might not understood this quite right.
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there.
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They have to work with those gentlemen over there, because they're, they were supposedly already in contact with the,
[00:42:04] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
if they had a permit and we're in the process of working, that the fine would not go on, that the violation would go on.
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If
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they
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do the permit.
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If they do the permit,
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the
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fine will not go on. And work has to start. It
[00:42:18] Speaker 11
has to start and be in motion.
[00:42:20] Speaker 5
Yes. Thank you.
[00:42:23] Speaker 11
Thank you so much.
[00:42:29] Speaker 3
‸ Item number 3, CE 22-0874.
[00:42:35] Speaker 12
The address is, uh, 2716, Shearborg Road. Case number 22-0874. For the record, I'm Mike Folger, code enforcement officer. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of permit required fences, appendix A, article 13, section 5C. I visited the site 4 times during my first inspection, found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code.
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2023, the property remains in violation.
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contact the property owner. I brought this case before the code board as we have been working at this case for 131 days, and the violations have not been fully resolved.
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certified, posted, and posted on the property in violation. Staff finds in case number 22-0874 that the owner is in violation and recommends 30 days be given to come into compliance, or a fine of $25 be imposed for each day the violation remains, or until compliance is achieved.
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the owner, either by phone or by mail or email. I've had no contact with them at all since I've cited this case.
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It's a nice fence, but they don't have a permit.
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I've got to
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say
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that. I'm just saying, ‸ we're here to help improve the community. ‸ This is an improvement.
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It's
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a beautiful
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fence.
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just needs a permit.
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It's a beautiful fence.
[00:44:31] Speaker 1
Mr.
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Chair. The front, yeah, it really did improve the front a lot. That's a lovely gate.
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No,
[00:44:39] Speaker 2
it's right exactly at the corner of the house, so it can be six feet. If he was any closer to the road, he'd have to go lower to four feet, but it's ‸ in compliance just the way it is. He just needs to get a permit, get an inspection, and be done. And it's over the counter.
[00:44:56] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Okay, I'd like to make a motion on this case, please.
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And, uh, ‸ that a fine of $25 a day will be imposed until the compliance is achieved.
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Got a motion on the floor by Mr. Brown, second by Ms. Scott. I think.
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It's
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whoever's first. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? ‸ Motion passed.
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passed.
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Aye. Of
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course number 4 has been tabled. So we're at number 5.
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos ‸ accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of ‸ protective treatment,
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That's due to a hole in the roof and no water to the home. ‸ Storing outdoors
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I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but
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violation.
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2022, and
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made attempts to contact the property owner. I brought this case before the code enforcement board as we've been working this case for 266 days, and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent notice of hearing on
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and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation.
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violation ‸ recommends
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or a
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fine of $75 ‸ day be imposed for each day. The violation remains until compliance is achieved.
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or 3 2 7.
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Mr. Chairman, I would also like to add that. Um,
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because the front jealousy windows are pulled open.
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So therefore it's an easy way for people to get inside the house.
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Um, I'm not sure of the power.
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and the son, I believe has been incarcerated.
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How long has it been vacant?
[00:48:28] Speaker 3
Do you know?
[00:48:30] Speaker 12
Uh, when did that happen? Michael? The, it's been vacant approximately 2 months. Yeah, about, about 60 days.
[00:48:41] Speaker 3
Excuse me.
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Oh, no, he just did not respond. He did not, um, respond to us, but during a wellness check, they discovered that the mother was deceased and that,
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um,
[00:48:56] Speaker 2
he was, he did not report it and was taking her social security checks. And so he's been arrested and incarcerated.
[00:49:04] Speaker 5
I was wondering why he was incarcerated.
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it is three to seven for the case number.
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need to make a correction for the record. Three to seven.
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I know just in general.
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just wanted to get you on record as to why the 75.
[00:49:53] Speaker 3
So there's an actual hole in the roof.
[00:49:57] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Yes. There's a hole in the roof and the tarp is actually being held by cinder blocks and the sheeting is rotted. So, uh, ‸ fear is that it's going to rot more and the cinder blocks are going to fall through into the house.
[00:50:09] Speaker 12
And, and the tarp is melted to the roof.
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Yeah.
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So it's,
[00:50:13] Speaker 2
it's a bad, it's quite a big hole. That's what basically creates a dangerous structure.
[00:50:19] Speaker 3 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
So Mr. Brown, there is natural light. Just want to point that out. Oh, I'll take a motion.
[00:50:33] Speaker 1
Mr. Chair. Yes, sir. I'll make a motion, please.
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It is
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Mr.
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[00:51:25] Speaker 1
30 days. Yes. I'm sorry.
[00:51:27] Speaker 15
Can I ask a question? You're asking for the owner. I'm
[00:51:32] Speaker 1
sorry.
[00:51:32] Speaker 15 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
You're asking for the owner to fix this. Is there an owner available? He's incarcerated.
[00:51:39] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Well, he's incarcerated. ‸ But we're asking for the order because we want it on record so that if something happens, um, there's no liability to us and that we, you know, move forward. It's been, he had a chance to fix it before he got incarcerated and he chose not to.
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Okay.
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So I don't know what his outcome of his trial will be or anything like that. So
[00:52:00] Speaker 5 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Judge may issue have a bond. ‸ Exactly. I have no
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idea.
[00:52:06] Speaker 15
Okay. You just never know. I'll second the motion. Mr.
[00:52:11] Speaker 3
Have a motion on the floor by Mr. Brown. Second by Ms. Hughes. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed. Motion passes unanimously.
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We sure.
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I'm sure. ‸ Okay. All right.
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I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of site plan approval required. Appendix a article 13 section 1 B for the alterations made to the property without a site plan approval. The current permit notes from the from November, 2022
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say that
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the remedy is to remove the material and return the property back to its original
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grade. This property is
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also within the federal consent decree area. The store. The second violation was the storage of recreational vehicles.
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first inspection.
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found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my last inspection this morning on
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the property remains in violation. I've been working
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with the property owner, but I've been unable to gain voluntary compliance with extensions provided. I brought
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‸ this case for
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‸ The violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the
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certified and posted on the property in violation. Due to ‸ longevity of this case and failure to exhibit any progress.
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And recommend
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for each
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day the
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violation remain until compliance is achieved. The violation for storage of recreational vehicles was cured before today's hearing, and that's the reason for the amendment to the fine. Property owner is here
[00:54:32] Speaker 2
and Mr. Chair. I'd like to mention we had a meeting this morning
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slash interim planning director. And we discussed with the property owner exactly why it's a violation materials that can be used for a parking lot, which is not millings and discussed everything so that he has an understanding. So we did meet with him and he knows what he has to do at this point and he's here to discuss that with the board.
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Okay.
[00:55:05] Speaker 3
So with all due respect, if that meeting was held while we're here.
[00:55:10] Speaker 2
Well, because
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he has to take up all those millings and restore the property in a consent decree. Once a property goes vacant or doesn't have a use, it's automatically residential.
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[00:55:28] Speaker 2
So the only thing that can really be done is housing. He's turned this into an additional parking lot. And so he's got a lot of work ahead of him to remove all the millings, fix it. We recommended two options to him. One was to restore it to its original form of a grass vacant lot and then work on what he wants to do with planning or get an engineer and submit a site plan and try to fix what's already on the property.
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[00:56:01] Speaker 2
I'm not sure which one he chose to do. Either one's going to take a while. If he's got to remove all of those millings on this large piece of property and restore it to its vacant lot form, there's some work involved in that.
[00:56:14] Speaker 5
Mr. Chair, lady here from the property.
[00:56:16] Speaker 3
‸ Yes, sir. I was just gonna ‸ ask him to come on up. Good evening, sir. How are you today? Good evening. Very well. Thanks.
[00:56:24] Speaker 4
Be sworn in, sir.
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Yes.
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[00:56:26] Speaker 4
You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
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so
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help you God.
[00:56:29] Speaker 18
Yes, I do.
[00:56:30] Speaker 4
Please state your name and address for the record.
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[00:56:42] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
Right, sir. What can you tell us here? Well, pretty much ‸ Mr. Bunn told you is the facts. ‸ I just to expand on it, the, the, the, the, it was
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[00:56:59] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
renovated it and I needed extra parking. So, yes, I, I went ahead and cleaned up the parking, the storage area parking lot. I call it and started parking vehicles there. So, uh, the meeting we had today was quite productive because I really didn't have any. Know what my options were, uh, very productive. I appreciate it and, uh, so I'm asking for, uh, my intention of my two options is to title merge the property, um, which I've done with another one of my multi unit properties here in the city. Uh, they're aware of that as well. Um, so
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in motion and work with a county to get the
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Um, I'm very willing to do that because I, I need the property.
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and I know it's going to be a lot of work, but that's my only option. So I'd request six months to get that to do all the legal work, uh, through the county.
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limited parking now. So.
[00:58:11] Speaker 5
Okay.
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believe Mr. Dave had a question. Yeah. How long did it take you to lay down all the gravel?
[00:58:19] Speaker 18
Uh. About three days.
[00:58:24] Speaker 5
Three days. Yeah. Mr. Bryant, you said it's going to take him a long time to get this gravel. It only took three days to put down. Got any response to that?
[00:58:34] Speaker 2
Well, he has to dig up the gravel. He's got to get a permit for the gate and the fence that's there. He's got to take down the barbed wire that's on the fence.
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Um,
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I mean, if he can do it in three days, I don't know. No,
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didn't say three days.
[00:58:50] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
It took three days to put it down.
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[00:58:54] Speaker 2 + overlapping voice
Um, and that's going to take a permit from public works. So that's why I was coming up with my timeframe of it's going to take him a little bit of time because he's going to have to meet all their specs and repave it and put the sidewalk down. Plus remove the millings and strip everything. ‸ So, um, that's one avenue if he wants to try to keep it the way it is and can join the lots. He could do that, but then he still has to submit the site plan.
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plan in order to put parking here?
[00:59:31] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice
Uh, to be perfectly honest, the, the contractor, I was.
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contractor was working nearby came by and offered to ask me for, you know,
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little.
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how, how the work, how the ‸ system worked and everything and kind of
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got
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blindsided by him. But, you know, it's my bad. So I had
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do it that next day. I had
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[00:59:58] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
actually do it that next day. So. So, because it was a great, it was all grown up with brush and some junk and so we cleaned it up and we put the
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and within about 3 days. So I was pretty happy with the job until I got my citation. So, and
[01:00:13] Speaker 2
if I can just take a second with the board, because the consent decree is a very tricky area and not everybody's fully aware of it. So we get a lot of. Um, people that come in and think that they can open up businesses on these properties because at one time there was 1.
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said, you need to restore this area back into a neighborhood and provide housing and that's from the federal government. So there was a lot of vacant property and we just had a
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last month where a gentleman. thought he could open up a landscape company within the consent decree, but it wasn't zoned for that. So a lot of people come in without the knowledge of the consent decree because it's not posted anywhere and they don't always know. So we do run into this from time to time where people try to develop these properties within the consent decree or they see a business that was grandfathered in from the consent decree and it leaves and they think they can just start it up again. And unfortunately you can't. It goes back to residential.
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that are joined this property or any of them residential.
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Yes, the right next to the fence to the left of this picture is a residential house and then on the right side it's actually
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So the green roof you see in the background is actually a city building.
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If
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I may say so I think it would be. Sorry, I think it would be a big advantage to this to the city and me. Because
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and now it's a thriving little community, which you guys can attest to and I really did a nice job on it, but it needs extra parking. So I think it would be a natural join of the properties if we can, if we can go that route. So, and it would better the neighborhood. I believe,
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and for
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this. He has worked with the city in the past. He has obtained blighted properties and converted them into housing on school street and other areas ‸ within the city. So. So he typically will do what he says. Um, and he has ‸ done good work for the city in providing housing in the past.
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So I figured I would put it on that.
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have a hundred
[01:02:31] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
and something properties within the city that we do mid, mid, uh, middle income housing and low income housing.
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‸ I'm like, I didn't. My son. ‸ Accurate.
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Yeah.
[01:02:51] Speaker 1
Mr. Bunn.
[01:02:52] Speaker 2
Yes, sir.
[01:02:53] Speaker 1 + overlapping voice
What? I gotta grow a little.
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[01:03:05] Speaker 2
They're your standard millings.
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a mixture of chewed up asphalt and old tires and, and the products that they used to make millings. And typically in the past, it was used because people thought it was a good substitute for asphalt, but then they've discovered that it contains a lot of contaminants and it's not really a great
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substance. And it can't stay there is because what it is.
[01:03:28] Speaker 2
Yes, it's not approved in the city. You need to do concrete asphalt, um, anything else, any kind of stone or other substance has to be approved.
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[01:03:40] Speaker 1
Okay.
[01:03:40] Speaker 2
And Mr. Smith stated today that he would not approve the millings in a residential area.
[01:03:45] Speaker 1
So they don't want that reused asphalt any place in the city.
[01:03:50] Speaker 2
Not at least not in residential areas. He will entertain it if it was like an industrial zone and they were doing like a long driveway or something. There's appropriate places for it. Um, as an engineer, he just does not believe that milling should be placed down in residential neighborhoods. So he did not approve the substance.
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it ‸ commercial. They ‸ get down that.
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Well,
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mean, he, they have to submit the approval to the planning department and then it's up to the
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works. Um, anything that goes in the right of way, he approves as well.
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[01:04:35] Speaker 2
He, he won't allow it for an apron anywhere. So if somebody wanted to make an apron, even in commercial, they would have to use concrete or asphalt. Now question about from
[01:04:46] Speaker 3
your expertise. So how long would it take him to get this taken care of?
[01:04:52] Speaker 2
Well, if he, if he chose to restore it to its original form based on what the aerial show, he should be able to complete that in 90 days. If he wants to try to conjoin it with the apartment complex, which is a tan building in the rear of the property and make it one property with, um, parking that's going to take. His real estate attorney applying for that, getting that done and conjoining and that could take. Three months in itself and then he's got to come back in and make the parking lot up to. So he's got to submit the site plan and then make the parking lot into a parking lot.
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him. Four to six months. But to restore it to its original form and make the code violation go away, he should be able to complete that ‸ 90 days.
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[01:05:46] Speaker 5
because it sounds like no matter what, that's not going to be allowed to stay.
[01:05:50] Speaker 18
I agree. That's what I took from our meeting today on site.
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But I got a clear understanding of what I was, what I was going to need to do. So I'm very willing to do what I need to do because I think, as I said, I think it's, it'll be an improvement to the neighborhood and the, and the, and my apartment building to have the extra parking there.
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I'll go ahead and make that motion go
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right ahead
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all
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and that we provide for a 90-day period to remove the millings and for ‸ 180-day period total for
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a fine of $50 per day ‸ be imposed until compliance is achieved. ‸ we've got
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a Second, ‸ what's the violation storage or
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wreck
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vehicles? Is that still no that's cured. That's taken care of. Yes, that's taken care of. okay if I
[01:07:36] Speaker 18 + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
might correct the record to the we did apply for a permit for the gate and for the parking lot the gate got approved and we got a final on and everything because Dennis stated the gate wasn't but but the permit we put in for the for the parking got disapproved so we were going we were you know I was going through the process
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item number eight CE 22-0516
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of documents and photos associated with this case
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for miscellaneous outdoor storage items and including rusted trash can trash car battery gas cans
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the storage of unserviceable or unregistered vehicles in the driveway in the backyard I visited the site nine times during my first inspection I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case but as of my last inspection this morning on April 20th 2023 the property remains in violation
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contact with the property owner I brought this case before the code enforcement board as I've been working this case for 248 days the violations have not been fully resolved I sent the notice of hearing on March 30th 2023 and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation Due to ‸ longevity of this case and failure ‸ exhibit any progress,
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staff
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finds in case
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that the
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owner is
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in violation and recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance or a fine that $50 be imposed for each day the violations remain until compliance is achieved.
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The
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property owner is here. ‸ property owner would like to step up.
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Are you both going to speak? just me just me just you okay you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God ‸ Please, both of you, state your name and address for the record.
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Joe Don Sparrow [address] Cocoa Florida Jaquan Harvey [address] Cocoa Florida
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Jaquan
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What can you tell us about this, ma'am?
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issue was with the car in the backyard so like is it because you can see it from the street or I guess I don't understand
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All vehicles in the city have to be tagged and registered and operable. So if they sit for a long period of time or they have flat tires or they're missing a tag, they get cited under this code section.
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so I just okay the car run so
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if
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it doesn't have a tag, then you have to tag it. If it doesn't run,
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and
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you just have to fix it and get it running.
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okay
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the issue but
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‸ And then there's just some items out there. Your burn barrel that's on the side of the property that remains out there is technically a rusted oil drum.
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‸ It's
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not supposed to be there. And all your other items that were up by the front porch that were just kind of stacked there, which some of them in the pictures you can see have been picked up. ‸ The property needs to stay picked up. You can't store outdoors for stuff like that. So all those items just around the front need to be picked up, any boxes, any pots or pans or car parts. could you go back to the picture like with our front yard please yeah give me I am my
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a little slow today
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Here we go. Okay. So
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that we may need to?
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Okay. So like this is a newer picture from today. So you picked up a lot of the items. But any coolers, any boxes, any drums, they all just need to be picked up. When you were originally cited, there was more items out under the porch, but you have cleaned those up. Okay. So that's what we're looking for.
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you're not supposed to have a burn barrel especially now because there's a burn ban but I wouldn't just leave it out in your yard I mean that needs to be brought out when you're going to burn and then put back when you're supposed to be there
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you are the tenants or the property owner both
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I didn't know if you were just tenants and the
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property owner
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just gave you the violation or whatever No,
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our house is in a trust. Are you
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trustees? Yes.
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‸ so with these two violations, look like you're already on the way as far as the store and outdoors.
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there's only a few items that are left out there Well, we removed
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the cooler this morning. We had just went to the beach. but um
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yeah
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addressed and get back with code enforcement officers so you can get it cleared off?
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you need a
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but
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we don't. What draws us to it is the fact that it's parked in your backyard and it never moves.
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worthy and you're not driving in a regular basis sorry so when we when we see that we may drive by ‸ a few times but the longer it sits there so we go ahead and cite it and I know there's no tag as you told me there was no tag
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sitting in the backyard and stuff, that's a good sign. If a car doesn't move or if we notice that there's flat tires or the grass is high around the tires, all those are going to draw us to issue the citation to make sure that it's
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okay I'll take a motion
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I'd like
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number autos that we go with staff recommendation. And go with 30 days
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per day.
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floor by Ms. Scott second by Mr. Brown and Ms. Hughes how about that
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Who was first? All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion
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unanimously. I thank you guys for being here to just, again, help them get clarity and help us get clarity and know what you need to do.
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I know Officer
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mentioned that he did not have contact with the property owner,
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would be an excellent idea for you to exchange contact information with him so that he can be in contact with You I think because he's
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sending it like to the trust so
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we're just down the street
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in that building So if you have any questions feel free to stop by or give
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We'll go out and look at it and let you know what is left what needs to be done and we'll work with you
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Okay, thank you.
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Thank you again
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On
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to item number nine CE 22-0584
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Address is 132 Aurora Street. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case The photos accurately depict the property during my visits And show my findings of exterior general condition section 6-1003A for the decayed fascia and trim and exterior structure
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for the condition of the roof system in need of repair and for the safety concern for tenants As this is a rental property I visited the site seven times during my first inspection I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code I've attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case but as my last inspection this morning April 20th 2023 the property remains in violation I've been working on this case since august 30th 2022 And have had some contact with the property owner and his lawyer I've provided extensions and I've tabled the hearing last month I brought this case for the code enforcement board as I have
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The violations have not been fully resolved I sent the notice of hearing on march 30th 2023 And it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation Due to the longevity of this case and failure ‸ exhibit any progress staff finds in case 22-584 That the owner is in violation and recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance Or a fine of $50 be imposed for each day the violations remain until compliance is achieved The property owner is present
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If
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the property owner would like to step up
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My name is Jeff Myland
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truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God?
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I do State
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your name and address for the record
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All right, sir. Uh, what can you tell us about these two violations?
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I'm sorry Um
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[01:18:21] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
has been used as a rental and the person who was in the house for the pro
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was legal back and forth going out Uh The house itself was fine up until such time as the hurricanes came through and we had this problem with with the roof I have had uh Inspectors out looking at the property
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The trash has been picked up various things have been done to the property
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[01:19:03] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
but My property director here is down here now working full time living down here to run this project The project is funded and we need to uh get uh, we're gonna ‸ do a roof we need to get that permit in place and We're here and we're doing the work
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Is
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your property manager a general contractor or a realtor or
[01:19:35] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
He has worked on various projects for me up in uh, brooklyn and uh, he is Uh, just here as a super in a supervisor capacity, but he is not a general contractor here in in florida. We have to hire that person
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Okay, and if they if they were to hire a general contractor and be in the process of of this would that cure? The case officer gonzalez
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Um,
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so I'm just Some
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sort of intent would would probably help cure the case if I saw a permit Um, which i've explained to the property owner in
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the
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past Um, some sort of intent to correct the issues but up till today we haven't heard much
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his entire roof and drainage violation and then um, the fascia and fixing the fascia and those beams on the front porch and painting and all that can be done Without a contractor just a regular person so basically he can get away with a roofing contractor
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to get a roofing contractor hired in 30 days
[01:20:41] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I would I can get the person hired certainly the work involved was probably take at least four months
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[01:20:53] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Renee here would also be taking a look at doing the internal furnace finishing work painting walls All of that and laying down tile is that require a permit?
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No painting and tile does not require a permit However, I would like to be focused on our code violations and not just the rehab of the house because there is no violation there So you can do that at your leisure It's getting the roof fixed ‸ and they're wooden railing an area around the porch that needs to be addressed
[01:21:26] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Understood
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I think he said that he could hire a roofer within 30 days
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Yeah, because if he pulls a
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permit within that 30 days if it takes the roofer Another 60 he's at least pulled a permit and it's in the works So we would actually close our roofs and drainage permit at that time
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He
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could be recited if he doesn't get a final or the permit expires But for what we're looking for and what was cited that would suffice
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[01:22:00] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a little hard of hearing the
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take away your roofs and drainage violation you're going to be fine How long it takes him to do the work will not be an option because you have the intent through the permit to finish the roof However, if you didn't and the permit expired that
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time For an expired permit.
[01:22:28] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
Okay, so I understand completely if I can get the roofing contractor on board within 30 days Everything is fine with respect to the
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[01:22:37] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and the roof If
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he gets the permit if he applies gets the permit then he has six months before he needs an inspection If he gets an inspection, he can have another six months. So once you get the permit that'll take care of itself So a roofer permit violation goes away
[01:22:52] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified)
and anything with respect to the interior of the house don't have to worry about
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no because we didn't cite you for that
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We only did the exterior structure
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take a year to fix the ‸ inside You can
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And replace any rotted wood Any soffits that are hanging down you need to put that on most of the time your roofers will do the fascia and the soffit So you just really need to kind of concentrate with the railing and the wood on the exterior That takes care of the exterior condition
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Yes Thank you very much for the education in doing renovations in florida
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Or a fine of $50 per day
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Second
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Second by Mr. Brown All in favor say aye Aye
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Those opposed motion passes unanimously.
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located because you came in.
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and I
[01:24:49] Speaker 20 (introduced as “Jeff Myland” — machine-transcribed, not verified) + overlapping voice · overlapping voices
have a few more questions that will come along, but we can do that later. Thank you very much.
[01:25:00] Speaker 3
‸ Item number 11. C E 23.0051.
[01:25:07] Speaker 17
Yeah, this is 108 St. Charles Street. I'm submitting a packet of documents and photos associated with this case. The photos accurately depict the property during my visits and show my findings of accumulation of trash and litter.
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[01:25:24] Speaker 17
on a vacant residential lot, which is within federal consent decree. District and intent
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Article 11 section 4-A. The property owner, Mr. Hooper, stated that the wood debris was being used and stored as firewood when I made contact with him. Um, I made the attempt to educate him, uh, that this was vacant residential or vacant residential land. And again, was in part of the federal consent decree. I visited ‸ site four times. During my first inspection, I found the property in violation of the above mentioned sections of the city code. I have attempted to gain voluntary compliance in this case, but as of my
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violation.
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wanted to appeal it to the code enforcement board. I brought this case before the code enforcement board as I've been working this case for 87 days and the violations have not been fully resolved. I sent the notice of hearing March 30th, 2023, and it was sent certified and posted on the property in violation.
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any progress
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finds in case 22-580, I'm sorry, 22, 23-51 that the owner is in violation and recommend 30 days be given to come into compliance.
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the violations remain until compliance is achieved.
[01:26:49] Speaker 2
Mr. Chairman, I'd just like to add real quick that these trees did not come from this property. These trees were brought in and laid on this property.
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So he's actually brought these trees in and dumped them on this residential property.
[01:27:10] Speaker 3
I was going to ask that.
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No. No, sir. Okay. Well, I move in case CE-230051 that we find staff recommendations, violations of accumulation of trash and litter, and district ‸ intent, provide 30 days for a cure for a $50 fine per day until compliance is achieved.
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All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed, motion passed unanimously. And we are clear of that section of our agenda. On to non-compliance. Yeah.
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[01:28:18] Speaker 6
The address is 1047 West Hillcrest Drive.
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submitting photos that I took during my reinspection of the property. They accurately depict the property during my visits. This case was brought to the Code Board on 1-19-2023 and was found in violation of ‸ external general conditions,
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[01:28:40] Speaker 6
Storing outdoors. Chapter 6, Section 6-900B11. Accumulation of trash and litter.
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And protective treatment. Chapter 6, Section 6-1003B.
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[01:29:02] Speaker 6
I sent the notice of hearing for non-compliance on 3-24-2023 and it was sent, certified and posted. At this time, the property remains in violation.
[01:29:13] Speaker 3
Question. I know last time the gentleman was here saying he was trying to get this taken care of. Has there been anything done and is someone living in the tent in the back and is there power, water to this structure?
[01:29:34] Speaker 2
There is available power and water. It does appear somebody's living in the tent. He did remove the ladders and cleaned up most of the trash on the ground. However,
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whoever is
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living in the tent doesn't always hit that garbage pail that you see in this picture. So on occasion, depending on when you go by,
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be bottles and different things laying out there. But he is making an attempt to clean it better, but he hasn't painted any of the plywood, the fascia, or done anything in that way. He did remove the white car that was in the first picture that was inoperable on the side. So he cleaned up some trash and he
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the car. That's what he's done since our last meeting.
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squatter living in the tent and he didn't feel, he didn't have it in his heart to kick her on the street.
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was going to try for assistance. Do you
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We
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have no idea because after we left this meeting, he's never contacted us.
[01:30:34] Speaker 5
It's unfortunate.
[01:30:36] Speaker 2
I'll take a motion.
[01:30:38] Speaker 3
Oh, Mr. Otero. Uh,
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Ramirez. Can I request a motion from one of you?
[01:30:47] Speaker 16
I'll do it.
[01:30:48] Speaker 3
How about this? One of you set the motion and the other second.
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Well, we can't assume that the other would second, but if they, if they
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so
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chose to second.
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We just want to give everyone an opportunity to participate in our meeting.
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Okay.
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storing outdoors, accumulation of trash and protective treatment. Recommendation is set for noncompliance.
[01:31:34] Speaker 3
I second that motion.
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in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed the motion passes unanimously.
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‸ Not doing the Vassar lane today. No. Is that going
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come back next month?
[01:31:57] Speaker 2
It depends. She failed her inspection. She had some garbage issue that appeared and some permit issues that happened since she applied. So she did not pass her inspection to move forward.
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that we adjourn.
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Well, wait before you do the manager has an announcement that I just want to put out there. Okay. Um, the city council has recently made several comments during lean reductions and some of the council people have reached out to staff. So I just wanted to mention to the board that we're working on.
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We will still be doing a cost sheet, but they have asked that commercial and industrial properties be taken into consideration that they are above residential and that they would like to see. Finds reflect the fact that they are commercial businesses and not just a residential citizen in the city. So we're trying to work something out where we can take that into consideration and. You know, maybe do a small percentage plus cost for commercial and small percentage and, you know, for industrial, but we, we have to look into that. So I just wanted to let you know that if you see something different on the
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reductions, we still got to go through other processes and speak, you know, with the attorneys and whatnot.
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he, well, he knows about it and he was present.
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He was present at both of them, but we got to iron all that out and see what's going to be appropriate. What they don't want to see is they don't want to see a commercial property walk away with a thousand dollar fine. Why a citizen is getting $2,200 fine and the property owner doesn't, the commercial property owner doesn't reside in the city and is running a business and whatnot. So they just, that's kind of the comments and we do have councilman dial here who can attest to that. We're just looking into it. I just wanted to let everybody know in case it comes that we may be changing that process.
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I think I remember us having a case here with a large commercial property, nine acres. I think it was on Dixon and because of the large footprint ‸ had in the city,
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think which is the max. Is that correct?
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250 a day?
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Yeah.
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250
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a day. Yeah.
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wouldn't have gone over 250 a day. ‸ And
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referring
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to the reduction. So like if somebody has an $80,000 lien and it's residential, it would be staff
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cost.
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If it was a commercial property,
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and then staff costs so that the commercial property ends up paying more than a residential. Like we did have one commercial property who walked away with 2,500. But then we have another property owner who walked away with almost the same amount who was just a resident citizen. Didn't have the same. So they're looking for fairness and a distinction between commercial, industrial and residential. But again, we have to go through a long, a lot of stuff before we do that. But I just wanted to make the board aware.
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So
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adopting that process. It's just no, I just wanted to make them aware
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that if we get it approved and we bring it and you hear an odd number because it's a commercial piece of property, it's going to be because
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which we will explain in our lien reduction summary.
[01:35:28] Speaker 8
Yeah. And of course, it will all comply with Florida statute.
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Absolutely. It'll be based on the gravity.
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I'll have some input with Anthony on that issue.
[01:35:44] Speaker 10
You did a lien reduction on a piece of property and we went against your suggestions because of the value of the property in the individuals, all the problems we've had in the past. And I voted no, we're not going to do that because I know the process of this particular piece of property and the individual involved in it.
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and we had
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you know,
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It's
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been here 20 years and you
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that really, if you look at some of these commercial properties in violation, you look at their better business bureau, they got the most complaints of anybody. So, we, we, we, we hear more stuff because they come up and say this stuff in our meetings and they won't say it here because you got a finding process when they come to us, they beg.
[01:36:43] Speaker 2
And then just for the record
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too,
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the gravity of
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violation, the length of time it took them to correct the violation and there is criteria. So it doesn't say you just automatically reduce it to
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costs. That's something that we do. This board has always had the power to go above staff costs. But when we look at this, we will, that'll be the factor. We won't, we'll have to look at the severity of the violation, how many violations, how long it took them to correct it. And that's why I said we would base it. We would definitely base it off of that. But there is no standard set in statute either that you can only reduce it to staff's
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[01:37:22] Speaker 2
You can, you can set the amount, you can do a dollar or nothing at all. It's completely up to you. So we would work within that frame. I would not charge anybody extra money that did not meet the gravity or the issues of the state statute.
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here so people come in and talk to us and the people that talk to us and tell us what's going on, that's where the, the, the, uh, leans vary so much because some people are really trying to get things done and other people are just trying to avoid everything else. So every case that comes in here, you can't just blanket and say, well, you're a commercial.
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looking at that, you focused on his story that he told you. He told a different story at council, which made him focus on the actual violation of clear cutting the property, putting up fences, storing his equipment. And they reversed your decision and went with staff's cost instead of the thousand dollars that the board did. So that happens quite a bit. And so that's what I believe Mr. Dial is saying. Sometimes when they approach council, they focus on a different story or they have a different tale and it's not the same. So there's always extenuating circumstances.
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You people know the real story. I do.
[01:39:05] Speaker 2
Yes.
[01:39:05] Speaker 1
You people know the real
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and you present it to us. And
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when I make a cost sheet, that's what I'm basing it on the severity and what it costs staff to do it. And that's why I do it. But I'm saying there's been changes by the board that council hasn't done, but it's because
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came to the council and wanted a reduction to zero and talked himself into a different hole than what he originally came here.
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and you have different people. So I'm just saying that council is saying we should look at commercial property a little bit differently than we do residential because the 50, 60 year old woman who has lived in the city for 15, 20 years and is on a fixed income doesn't have the same money as a car dealership on us one who lives somewhere else and is selling the property for $1.7 million.
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And again, we're not there yet. I just wanted to make the board aware because I got a lot of hoops to jump through before I enact this.
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What'd
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I wanted more.
[01:40:26] Speaker 2
And that was, you know,
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[01:40:30] Speaker 2
They felt it should have been more like 5,000 for each property.
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That's what they're here with.
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[01:40:40] Speaker 2
But then we had another residential lien reduction where they paid $2,000.
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[01:40:48] Speaker 2
And his violation was much more severe than her. He had transients, graffiti, you know, storing junk autos and some protective treatment on the other one.
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[01:40:59] Speaker 2
the statute and apply the severity and the gravity of the violation, how cooperative they were instead of just filling out the staff report and saying that's what it is. So that's what they're asking us to do. Okay.
[01:41:12] Speaker 5
Excellent report.
[01:41:13] Speaker 2
Thank you.
[01:41:14] Speaker 3
Uh, is there anyone in favor with us? Adjourning?
[01:41:21] Speaker 5
I'm moving.
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adjourn.
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[01:41:24] Speaker 3
Meeting adjourned.
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28 years.
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